Shooting P3200 wide open in the daylight

[Lancer]

So my buddy yesterday gave me a roll of Kodak Tmax 3200 along with a roll of neopan 1600. I have never shot this type of film and was wondering if it was only low light film or if it could be shot at say 1.8 in the daytime. Would this blow out the film? Do I need to run an ND filter to make it work. Any advice would be great, thanks, Lance

[thegman]

Depends on the light, and shutter speed really. If you've got a camera which can do 1/2000 or 1/4000 of a second shutter speeds, then I think you could get away with it. I understand TMAX 3200 is actually more like a 1000 ISO film in normal developer, so it's not even 2 stops faster than ISO 400.

Depends how bright it is really, I'd say you'd likely be fine.

[Lancer]

My camera will only go to 1000th of a sec.

[thegman]

Still probably going to be OK, unless you're in very bright light I think.

[Brian Legge]

Out of curiosity, what is your goal? Why do you want to do this?

[Brian Legge]

Ah, I've seen people ask that question seriously a few too many times on other forums in the past.

[Lancer]

My reasons are just to do it, gain some insight, experience, have some fun.

[Turtle]

Simple: if you set your camera to 1000, 1600 or 3200 (or whatever speed you wish to rate the film at and to begin with I would recommend 1000 for daylight use) and exceed the top speed of your camera to get a correct exposure, then you need a ND filter. Set the ISO dial on your camera and walk outside and try setting some example exposures and you will have your answer.

[Soeren]

Originally Posted by Turtle

Simple: if you set your camera to 1000, 1600 or 3200 (or whatever speed you wish to rate the film at and to begin with I would recommend 1000 for daylight use) and exceed the top speed of your camera to get a correct exposure, then you need a ND filter. Set the ISO dial on your camera and walk outside and try setting some example exposures and you will have your answer.

How about using an Orange, Red, Pol or as comented in link above an IR filter
Best regards

[Rayt]

I have some Delta 3200 due to expire and I don't shoot enough darkness shots to use them up. I shot a few rolls at 800 and processed them in HC110 B as 800 and they turned out great. A bit grainier than pushing TMY to 800 but still very nice. You can look at them on my Flickr.

[Lancer]

Thanks, Ray I will check out those picks.

[Tim Gray]

I shoot P3200 in the daylight all the time. Mostly rated at 800 for these conditions, but sometimes 1600. My top shutter speed is 1/1000, so if it's in the full sun, it's usually rated at 800 and using f/16. In the shade you have a bit more flexibility. Mind you, even rating it at 1600, it should be find at f/16 and 1/1000s. That's only around 1 stop of overexposure, and film is usually fine with that kind of overexposure.

Wide open on the other hand would probably give you some problems. Rating it at 800, 1/1000s and f/2 would be about 6 stops overexposed. It'd be obviously less in the shade; you can probably get away with 2-3 stops overexposure with out TOO much degradation, but 5-7 is really pushing it. I've not shot TMZ like that, but I have shot Tri-X like that. You get an image, its super dense and super grainy, but it can be interesting. I think this was about 5 stops over in full sunlight.


lake effect snow + lake by ezwal, on Flickr

[Tim Gray]

Oh, I forgot, if you throw on a red 25 filter or an ND, obviously, you can get a lot closer to what you want. Here's an example of properly exposed TMZ rated at 800 in the sunlight (not wide open).


mud by ezwal, on Flickr

[Lancer]

Great info and great pic to. The grain is nice, where was this shot. Reminds me of the salt flats. Could be beach to I guess.

I do have filters so that would work well to for some shots.

[Tim Gray]

It was dried mud in an abandoned lot.

[Soeren]

How about this?
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/3...-infrared.html

Edit: just noticed this thread is about Tmax and not Delta 3200
Edit2: But spectral sensitivity looks pretty close so it should be possible
Best regards

[Colin Corneau]

Buy a neutral density filter. Otherwise, let's face it, you'll have a dense black negative you can't see through let alone get a print off of.

[Turtle]

unless photographing in the UK, in which case you might still need a tripod, wide open.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Turtle

unless photographing in the UK, in which case you might still need a tripod, wide open.

It's f5.6 at 1/4000 at the moment ... but I object to the stereotype