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sleepyhead
05-11-2010, 21:01
Pardon my ignorance of how software licensing/transfering works,
B ut now that photoshop CS5 is out, is it possible to buy a legal/legitamate used
Copy of CS3 or CS4 relatively cheaply?

I would be happy to accept a copy that couldn't be upgraded, but would
Want a legal copy.

If so, where to buy from?

Thanks in advance for your insights.

chrishayton
05-11-2010, 21:11
I think its a pretty rare occurrence. No idea on the legality of it and whether you would have to aquire a new serial number.

I wonder what the percentage of legal vs illegal copys of PS exist. I know no one except myself of course :rolleyes: who actually bought photoshop

Leigh Youdale
05-11-2010, 21:24
B ut now that photoshop CS5 is out, is it possible to buy a legal/legitamate used Copy of CS3 or CS4 relatively cheaply?
I would be happy to accept a copy that couldn't be upgraded, but would
Want a legal copy.
If so, where to buy from?
Thanks in advance for your insights.

There's no need to try this route. Buy a legit copy of the current Photoshop Elements. It's a slightly cut-down version of the big one - misses a few bells and whistles that only a Pro would miss - and costs but a fraction of the full CS suite. I run a Mac and have PSE v8. I'm sure there would be a current equivalent for Win/PC users if that's what you're using.
Without wishing to sound patronising, if you're as uninformed about software issues as you say you are, I'm sure that PSE will suit you very well - probably even better than the CS product.

sleepyhead
05-11-2010, 21:34
There's no need to try this route. Buy a legit copy of the current Photoshop Elements. It's a slightly cut-down version of the big one - misses a few bells and whistles that only a Pro would miss - and costs but a fraction of the full CS suite. I run a Mac and have PSE v8. I'm sure there would be a current equivalent for Win/PC users if that's what you're using.
Without wishing to sound patronising, if you're as uninformed about software issues as you say you are, I'm sure that PSE will suit you very well - probably even better than the CS product.

Thanks for your input. Actually, I'm a quite savvy PS user, I've just never had to buy a copy because I could use the computers at work which had the software (biological image processing).

Now I had my own Mac laptop, and want my own copy but don't need the latest.

I'll look into PSE, but if it can't do layers and masking, then I'll need PS.

Leigh Youdale
05-11-2010, 21:40
PSE does layers and masking but not to the same extent as CS, I believe.
I must confess I don't do much more in PSE than I can do in the darkroom - I'm not into collage and serious modification of images.

ZeissFan
05-11-2010, 21:51
Sometimes, you can find older versions at flea markets/yard sales/boot sales. And sometimes they will turn up at computer shows.

I think that software companies try to quickly remove previous versions when they release news versions of the same product.

Personally, I think the CS Suite is a shocking expense for those who plan to use just one part of the product.

amateriat
05-11-2010, 22:52
Yaron: I think you can do a certain amount of layering and masking in recent versions of PSE.

Up until relatively recently, I was mostly content with the original Adobe CS suite. As i tend to use PS as a transcription (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/essays/vanRiper/031009.htm) device about 95% of the time, I'm not wooed by the parade of digital parlor tricks Adobe trots forth with each new release: I'm currently using CS2, whose main claim to fame for me is the Spot Healing Brush, possibly the last important addition to PS for me. (The only addition to PS5 that's even mildly interesting to me is the ability to output in 16-bit...which, up until now, no one seemed to think was worth losing sleep over. (Hold it...I've been able to output in 16-bit for printing since either PS7 or CS, so what's the real difference here?)


- Barrett

kzphoto
05-11-2010, 23:02
Do you have a college nearby? Adobe offers *STEEP* student discounts. Register for a class or two, buy the discounted software and learn something.

sleepyhead
05-11-2010, 23:31
PSE does layers and masking but not to the same extent as CS, I believe.
I must confess I don't do much more in PSE than I can do in the darkroom - I'm not into collage and serious modification of images.

Neither do I, but I find that using curves adjustmment layers, with selective masking and/or opacity adjustments, to be the best way for me to dodge & burn an image in a non-destructive way that can be tweeked later on (I.e., after I've lived with the picture for a whhile.

If interested, see my flickr photostream, it' quite "straight" photography.

kuzano
05-11-2010, 23:38
The community college where I teach community ed computer courses sells Photoshop for half of retail ($299 vs $600) through the bookstore. Community Ed students qualify even though classes may be only 2 three hour sessions as a rule. The package is full featured and unrestricted. (Some say academic doesn't qualify for future upgrades, but????)

morback
05-12-2010, 00:01
You can buy an old version, but you need to make sure the previous owner "deactivated" his/her copy from their computers (max 2) before you can use your copy.

Not sure how it would work out with registration and such.

jamesj
05-12-2010, 00:19
You know I actually bought a copy of the cs2 suite for about 300 or 400 bucks on ebay like 2 years ago. I think you just have to be patient and really find a legitimate person.

I got the sellers email address and actually found out if he was in the field he said he was, then i made sure he filled out the transfer of license form section he needed to fill out then he sent that with the software. I filled out my section and sent it in to adobe, no problems at all. I was happy and i guess lucky. Just make sure you get that form filled out before you buy is my only advise.

sleepyhead
05-12-2010, 01:52
Thanks for the good advise and useful information everybody.

I'm considering PSE 8 for my home computer, since I still have access to the complete Photoshop CS3 on a work computer. The price of PSE 8 is really attractive.

sleepyhead
05-12-2010, 02:15
I just looked on Ebay for CS4, and there are plenty of sellers (shops, not private) selling what they say are legitamite, retail copies, sealed/unopened, never registered, etc.

Is there anything wrong (either legally or practically) with buying one of those? They are like half the price of CS5 from Adobe.

Are they upgradable?

jamesj
05-12-2010, 08:58
No i don't think its a problem as long as the license is legit, Make sure they fill out the transfer form as i said before.

I still haven't upgraded my cs2 im to cheap and lazy but if it is not a academic version you are fine.

look here.
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/152/tn_15281.html

Daneinbalto
05-12-2010, 09:51
I used to have access to CS2 and Bridge. Then six months ago I no longer had that access, so I was looking into buying a used version on Amazon or eBay. I was fine with CS2 although that was already quite an old product by then. It sold for about $250.

I did correspond with a seller about transferring the license, etc, but then decided to by a new copy of Adobe Lightroom instead. The price was about the same and it was more photo-oriented, which is what I needed. Might this be a better choice than PSE for your needs?

j j
05-12-2010, 15:11
In Europe education prices are lower than upgrades and education versions are upgradable (previously they were not).

Gregoryniss
05-12-2010, 15:13
I might have a copy of PSE7 for windows that came with my scanner laying around my house somewhere... i'll be back home from college by monday and I could check it out. I'd be happy to give it to you as long as you pay shipping. PM me if interested

dmr
05-13-2010, 06:02
I wonder what the percentage of legal vs illegal copys of PS exist.

LOL, not to show my real age here, but back when I was in grad school, a running joke was that there did not exist, anywhere, a legal copy of Wordstar, a popular word processing program at the time.

Nowadays, I wonder if the same applies to Photoshop? :)

I know no one except myself of course who actually bought photoshop

Well, you do now. :) I have a legal in-box copy, upgraded a few times, legally, but I have not upgraded to CS-whatever. No particular reason except I don't feel the need to upgrade again.

filmfan
05-13-2010, 06:18
You can download (for free) every version, except for the most recent one.

dmr
05-13-2010, 06:21
You can download (for free) every version, except for the most recent one.

Legally?

Where?

What about a serial number, which appears to carry forward in upgrades?

filmfan
05-13-2010, 07:49
Legally?

Where?

What about a serial number, which appears to carry forward in upgrades?

Not legally (but justly).

Many sources (I use torrentz.com in conjunction with Vuze).

Serial number is usually attached with the install file as a word document (a README file).

I downloaded version one (CS) 5 or 6 years ago. I downloaded CS2 3 years or so ago, and now I have CS3 and could probably get CS4 if I thought it was necessary.

rxmd
05-13-2010, 07:57
Not legally (but justly).

Good luck explaining that to the judge who will slap you with punitive damages, justly or not, but certainly legally.

filmfan
05-13-2010, 08:04
Good luck explaining that to the judge who will slap you with punitive damages, justly or not, but certainly legally.

Thomas Knoll (creator and CEO maybe?) told me in person how to get it for free...

Rob-F
05-13-2010, 09:10
I bought a used copy of Photoshop Elements 6 for my iMac/Snow Leopard for $50.00. Actually I'm not sure if it was used or new old stock. It works fine. In shopping around, in such places as Amazon or eBay, I noted that old copies of CS 4 or CS3 were still very expensive; perhaps just as expensive as new. Fortunately, in my case, I use Aperture for almost everything and only needed PSE for one or two specific functions.

rxmd
05-13-2010, 09:30
Thomas Knoll (creator and CEO maybe?) told me in person how to get it for free...

I don't think anyone would care whether you got it from the CEO or from a Google search. If the Daimler Benz CEO tells me how to run a red light and I do it, it's still my problem.

Also good luck getting the CEO to admit that they told you.

djonesii
05-13-2010, 09:45
I use PS elements and lightroom. Got light room on the educational discount. And have found the main difference in Elements to be that you cannot run actions. As near as I know, the layers/masking is the same.

Dave

JohnTF
05-13-2010, 10:00
I have heard the "inside" price, if you work for Adobe, was $40, so get a job with Adobe? I believe it was licensed for three computers, but one died, and I put it on a "new" third computer.

;-)

Professors' price at CSU Bookstore was $200 last year, at that price, I would not worry about the upgrade.

I'm still trying to learn CS, which is straining my old computer, though I am shopping around, not very hard, for a new computer, and will wander to the bookstore to see what they have.

University has a site license for several other programs, unfortunately, not PS.



Regards, John

sleepyhead
05-13-2010, 12:26
I might have a copy of PSE7 for windows that came with my scanner laying around my house somewhere... i'll be back home from college by monday and I could check it out. I'd be happy to give it to you as long as you pay shipping. PM me if interested

Thanks, I'll bear it in mind.

I feel unsure right now as to what i really want/need.

wgerrard
05-13-2010, 12:49
Yaron, if you do buy PSE, be sure to register it. Adobe sometimes sends out half-price offers on full-blown Photoshop to registered PSE owners.

filmfan
05-13-2010, 12:51
I bet craigslist will have a copy. I have seen them from pop up from time to time.