HP B8850 Grayscale Printing Issues / Beta 2 / Mac OS 10.5.8

[jsrockit]

I'm not doing something right but I cannot figure it out. I'm trying to print in grayscale with Harman Gloss FB AI paper. I'm choosing the ICC for this paper in lightroom in the print - color management section. Then under the print dialog box, I choose Paper Type / Quality and there should be a "color" pop-up menu in which I can choose grayscale. However, this no longer appears once I choose this ICC. The Color matching section in the "print" dialog box is set to "colorsync" by default and I cannot change this. If I choose to let my printer manage the profile under color management in lightroom, it allows me to choose greyscale. However, that's not going to work since I want to match my paper with an ICC. What am I doing wrong? I've done this in the past and cannot figure out what changed.

The reason I need to choose grayscale is because I'm printing black and white and I want my printer only to use black and grey inks. If it uses the color inks, I get a purple tint. I've called HP and they couldn't help.

Any help would be appreciated.

[plummerl]

So, take this all with a grain of salt. I have a B9180, with Windows 7-64bit, but I believe that the procedure is the same. In general, if you are selecting the ICC in Photoshop/Lightroom, you are declaring that the App will manage the color (or grayscale). In the printer dialog, after telling it that the App is managing, you just want to indicate a paper that will determine the height of the heads (paper thickness) and absorptive qualities. With Harman Gloss (or Matte), I choose this ICC in the App, then choose an HP paper (HP Photo Matte) in the dialog. The PDF's that I have for the Gloss and Matte both address this in the PDF files that comes with the ICC for both Windows and Macs.

[jsrockit]

Thanks. So, how do I choose grayscale in lightroom then?

[plummerl]

On my system, taking the approach that I describe, I can select grayscale on the Color tab of the Print Properties dialog.

[jsrockit]

I've sorted it out on my end. It isn't exactly how you described, but your post did point me in the right direction. Thanks.

[robert blu]

Interesting. I'm using HP9180B and both, Lightroom and/or CS3. If I choice the "managed by application" print method, I have to choice the ICC profile (that I get from website of producer). Than in the dialog box of the printer I choice a preset or leave it as standard. Than choicing the paper type if I correct understand what plummerl says it does not influence the colour management but only the height of the heads (paper thickness) and absorptive qualities. Under Color Option I cannot choice B&W inks and this IMO makes sense because otherwise it would be no "color management" without color inks. In other words if I want to print with only Black inks I have to choice the "managed by printer option" instead of the "managed by application". Different story if I desire to print colors. Is my "idea and process" correct ? Sorry for basic question but there is a long way to quality...I'm always trying to improve...thanks for any answer
robert

[jsrockit]

In other words if I want to print with only Black inks I have to choice the "managed by printer option" instead of the "managed by application".

Yep, this is exactly what I did and it worked perfectly.