Leica IIIC K - share info and questions

[karlori]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEICA-LEITZ-III-C-IIIC-GRAY-PAINT-WARTIME-WITH-SUMMITAR-AND-RARE-HOOD-/300703320325?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4603508905

Real thing ?

[RF_newbie]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEICA-LEITZ-III-C-IIIC-GRAY-PAINT-WARTIME-WITH-SUMMITAR-AND-RARE-HOOD-/300703320325?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item4603508905

Real thing ?
Looks like a real Grey Paint "Civilian" leica IIIc to me ;)
I do think that same camera was on auction a few months back...could be wrong though.

[DrLeoB]

Yep, fits right in for both body serial number and lens serial number with my excel spreadsheet of grey and K cameras. All of the primary characteristics are right. Does not look like the right shutter release collar, tho. Many of the early gray cameras had the extended D shaped lock ring, too.

[karlori]

Bleh, i've put my car insurance money toward it and was instantly outbid no matter if a real K or not I'm out. :D

[alphonse2501]

An Ebay seller put two IIICs on bidding:

390116K [http://www.ebay.com/itm/221133551588] and
388483 (non-K grey paint) [http://www.ebay.com/itm/221134148157]


It should be great if there have painting service for post war Leica...

[buzzardkid]

An Ebay seller put two IIICs on bidding:

390116K [http://www.ebay.com/itm/221133551588] and
388483 (non-K grey paint) [http://www.ebay.com/itm/221134148157]


It should be great if there have painting service for post war Leica...


Both listings magically disappeared. Not even ended, but possibly revoked.

[MaZo]

Both listings magically disappeared. Not even ended, but possibly revoked.


Both are on if anyone's interested:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIc-K-/221133551588?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item337c9637e4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIc-/221134148157?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item337c9f523d

Real deal?

[john neal]

I like the first one - it's been IIIf converted - very Lehni Reifenstahl (sp?) :)

[LeicaTom]

I like the first one - it's been IIIf converted - very Lehni Reifenstahl (sp?) :)

Yep, reminds me of her camera that's right :) IIICK to IIIFBD is very kool!

The second camera looks like a well worn 1942 grey camera, non K, not a ball-bearing camera.........

Tom

[buzzardkid]

Hi Tom!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIc-/221134148157?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:NL:1123

That was a nice price for a wartime Leica IIIc. But, that camera wasn't original anymore, right? At least it had a sync plug installed. The seller questioned the paint job and it has a III bottom plate, not the 'dog leg' plate.

Tom, wartime IIIc variations and provenance are your field of expertise. What is your verdict? I'm particularly interested in the 'off' paint job for which the seller suggested '...possibly because Leitz Wetzler was not overly concerned with an exact mix or match in paint jobs'

[LeicaTom]

Hi Tom!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-IIIc-/221134148157?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:NL:1123

That was a nice price for a wartime Leica IIIc. But, that camera wasn't original anymore, right? At least it had a sync plug installed. The seller questioned the paint job and it has a III bottom plate, not the 'dog leg' plate.

Tom, wartime IIIc variations and provenance are your field of expertise. What is your verdict? I'm particularly interested in the 'off' paint job for which the seller suggested

That camera was *repainted* and that line they added about Leitz not doing a quality paintjob, is BUL*S*IT........Even in the middle of the worst fighting and at the end (when the US Army cameras were made before the Factory was captured by the American's) the build/paint quality was very high.

The painted IIIC's BTW NEVER had "dogleg" bottoms and a III bottom/base would NEVER fit on a IIIC chassis, it's too short.......

The "dogleg" bottom was used 1940/41 and then again very shortly in 1942 (maybe less than 500 cameras) in a special series of cameras that were sent to the EAST ZONE.

Tom

[buzzardkid]

Funny, while I am aware that the III size bottom plate will not fit the IIIc, IIIf and IIIg models due to the added 3mm body length, I was under the impression that all IIIc K bodies had the 'dog leg' bottom catch, never occurred to me that most painted IIIc K's have the round bottom catch, 'earlier' III style

Learn something new every day, thanks Tom!

[Mr_Flibble]

Friend of mine recently acquired a IIIc with serial number 395803. He'd like to know if this was one of those delivered to the US Army of the Occupation or just a very late-war production IIIc.

Could it be an unmarked "K" like mine?

[LeicaTom]

Friend of mine recently acquired a IIIc with serial number 395803. He'd like to know if this was one of those delivered to the US Army of the Occupation or just a very late-war production IIIc.

Could it be an unmarked "K" like mine?

#395xxx era cameras are 1946 "stepper" models, no race bearings or K specs, normal IIIC camera shutter.

Most were sold at the Army PX Jan to June 1946, some Military Police units received them as well.

Tom