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ray_g
07-03-2005, 10:07
I have settled on APX100 as my slow speed film, and Tri-X for medium and fast film. Based on postings on RFF, with info mainly from Gene and Merciful's techniques, I tried my first test roll of TriX at EI 1600, developed in Rodinal 50+1.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, guys!

This was taken with a 50/2 LTM Nikkor at F/2, 1/60 i think, on a Canon P.

Gabriel M.A.
07-03-2005, 10:45
I've never tried Tri-X on Rodinal...wow, it never even ocurred to me! What is the dev time for 1+50? btw, nice melody! You sing too?

taffer
07-03-2005, 11:49
Looks good to me Ray ! :)

Tri-X is also the fastest film in my bag when used at 1250 with Diafine, but I agree that Merciful, Gene, and now yours shots with it in Rodinal look real good.

TPPhotog
07-03-2005, 11:53
Tri-X in Rodinal ... music to my ears :) Welcome to film abuse and it's all legal :D

ray_g
07-03-2005, 13:32
Thanks.

Gabriel, I just followed the recommendations of others on the forum. For 1600 iso, the development was 22min at 68deg, agitated for the first 30 sec, then 5 inversions every 5 minutes.

No, I don't sing. I just listen to my wife play, usually while I am developing for 22 minutes or longer :)

T_om
07-03-2005, 16:43
Thanks.

Gabriel, I just followed the recommendations of others on the forum. For 1600 iso, the development was 22min at 68deg, agitated for the first 30 sec, then 5 sec every 5 minutes.

No, I don't sing. I just listen to my wife play, usually while I am developing for 22 minutes or longer :)


Ray,

Didn't you get some Diafine not long ago? 6 minutes total. 7 if you count pour times. 9 if you count fixing too.

I can't imagine standing around for almost half an hour messing with developing film any more.

Tom

ray_g
07-03-2005, 16:48
Tom,

No, I haven't had the chance to get or try some. The shorter dev time certainly sounds appealing. I'm brand new at this, though, so I don't mind.

I also very infrequently push. And with what I have read about Tri-x and Rodinal on this forum, it seems I can push the TriX to much more than what Diafine will allow.

I'm sure that eventually, I will also get myself some Diafine :)

GeneW
07-03-2005, 17:59
Hey, that's lookin' really good, Ray! I've been experimenting recently with pushing Tri-X with HC-110 diluted 1:100. I've had some luck with that -- I'll start a thread on it in the next day or so.

Gene

shaaktiman
07-03-2005, 17:59
Really? What is the max tri-X/diafine push? I exclusively use diafine for my tri-x and save rodinal for apx-100, but if I can get decent tri-x results with a 3 or 4 stop push using rodinal it might be worth the hassle of not using diafine.

ray_g
07-03-2005, 19:10
Really? What is the max tri-X/diafine push? I exclusively use diafine for my tri-x and save rodinal for apx-100, but if I can get decent tri-x results with a 3 or 4 stop push using rodinal it might be worth the hassle of not using diafine.

As I said, I haven't used Diafine myself, but i believe it increases the speed of Tri-X to 1250 (or 1600). For Tri-X and Rodinal, you may want to read this thread:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4441&page=1&pp=20

ray_g
07-03-2005, 20:02
Not that I need pushes that large. I will try diafine someday, but right now I already have the rodinal for the the apx100.

varjag
07-04-2005, 06:20
T And with what I have read about Tri-x and Rodinal on this forum, it seems I can push the TriX to much more than what Diafine will allow.

While Rodinal is a fine developer and looks lovely on Tri-X, it is unlikely the best choice for pushing. I don't have access to Diafine here, but the scans from Tri-X @ 1250 or 1600 processed in Diafine IMHO exhibit very few pushing artifacts (grain, contrast, loss of detail), if any. Or try speed-enhancing developers; Tri-X in Microphen feels like 600 ISO and pushes well.

Skinny McGee
07-04-2005, 06:55
Here is a recent Tri-x push to 12850 Rodinal 1:50 @68 Degrees 51mins 5 sec agitation every 30sec.

Skinny McGee
07-04-2005, 06:58
Well I was trying to get one the photos on there I 'll try again

GeneW
07-04-2005, 07:21
While Rodinal is a fine developer and looks lovely on Tri-X, it is unlikely the best choice for pushing. I don't have access to Diafine here, but the scans from Tri-X @ 1250 or 1600 processed in Diafine IMHO exhibit very few pushing artifacts (grain, contrast, loss of detail), if any. Or try speed-enhancing developers; Tri-X in Microphen feels like 600 ISO and pushes well.
Under normal circumstances that's true, but this is a modified stand development technique that changes the normal equation. It's experimental, and probably not to everyone's taste (is anything?) but the results are interesting and not what one would expect.

Gene

varjag
07-04-2005, 08:58
I admit the example looks fairly good for 12K ASA. Perhaps should try that someday.