minolta cle and 50/2 collapsible summicron

[rjjackson]

i can't seem to find a straight answer: will the 50/2 collapsing summicron safely collapse inside a CLE?

[Beemermark]

Do you have a CLE now? Do you see a metering arm inside the body that a collapsed lens would hit? No, you don't see an arm? Then why the heck do you think a collapsible lens would harm the metering arm?

Why do people keep asking this over and over? Are you a climate change scientist?

[Paul T.]

And welcome to the forum, RJ!

(I too think your collapsible will be fine on the CLE)

[rjjackson]

beemermark: let's see -- i think i can answer your questions: no; no; no; no; no; no. does it follow then that the answer to my question, also, is "no"? ;) you forgot to ask if i actually like the weather. for that, i can say "yes".

ok but in fact i didn't see any references to the collapsing summicron actually collapsed either on this site or elsewhere. please point me to the reference, if you don't mind.

paul: thanks! lovely place.

[Palaeoboy]

Beemermark Where does the OP mention anything about hitting a meter arm?

[Joe Brugger]

Long long ago, when I had both a CLE and a collapsible Summicron, I put the shutter on B and carefully collapsed the lens while watching through the opening.

IIRC, and I could well be wrong, the clearance was so tight that I had no confidence in doing it in actual practice. I know I never used that lens on that camera and eventually sold the collapsible. The metering cells are at the bottom of the shutter space and I had no interest in screwing those up.

Beemermark is unable to distinguish between CL and CLE. It's like the difference between an R75 and a K75, sort of.

[HuubL]

Dear Mr. Jackson,
Welcome to RFF. Don't be fooled by an initial impression that this might not be a very pleasant place to visit and enjoy the enthusiasm, knowledge and help of fellow photographers and collectors of fine cameras!
Please visit again!

[George S.]

Mark,
Try the Decaf tomorrow morning!

[robklurfield]

don't do it.

use some dymo-type label tape to prevent the lens from fully retracting, unless of course you'd like that CLE to become a meterless RF.

[George S.]

Do they even make Dymo label tape anymore?

[Fenwick]

Do you have a CLE now? Do you see a metering arm inside the body that a collapsed lens would hit? No, you don't see an arm? Then why the heck do you think a collapsible lens would harm the metering arm?

Why do people keep asking this over and over? Are you a climate change scientist?

Is this guy here just to tick people off
And what a great impression he makes on new members

[rjjackson]

so the tally:

2 yes (by fiat)
1 maybe (with mod)
1 no (too close)

well, i'm a risk taker and ordered a CLE so i will soon see what happens. i don't really see how the barrel can damage the light meter bits since they seem to be embedded below the chamber where the lens barrel collapses. am i missing something from photographs?

[Joe Brugger]

so the tally:

am i missing something from photographs?

Nope. You got the $5 tour and then some. Let us know how it works for you.
For me, a collapsible was too fiddly and not the way to go.

[MP/CLE]

...but the CLE and rokkor 40 are so small anyway...

[rjjackson]

brief update: it fits, just. joe described it correctly. the clearance is extremely tight and if the lens barrel is loose when collapsed, it might bump against the baffle that protects the light meter. i can't see how it would touch the meter optics, though, unless something fell off the lens barrel.

the cle is a nice little camera. MP/CLE -- you're right, the 40mm is small indeed and i figure if the cle works for me i'll pick up a 40mm down the road.

thanks all,

rj

[Joe Brugger]

The CLE with the 28, 40 and 90 makes a nice versatile kit for anything but closeup work. Adding finders etc just drifts away from the designers' intent. I'm sure you'll like working with it.