View Full Version : How to shoot birthday cake in darkness?
Daneinbalto
11-17-2009, 08:25
I have attached a shot done with a dSLR and -1-2/3 EV compensation. If I don't compensate, the candles blow out not only their own pixels but also the nearby ones, making the cake look like a volcano. Is this amount of compensation also what you would have used? How much do you correct color balance? (if you compensate fully it will look unnatural). Any other tips for shooting this situation?
Any chance of taking a similar shot handheld on 400 ISO film? (Portra NC with a RF and 50 mm f/2). If so, should I compensate by as much (-1-2/3 EV)?.
The attached dSLR photo was taken at f/2.8, 1/80, ISO 3200. RAW to JPG in Canon DPP with no color correction.
Al Kaplan
11-17-2009, 08:29
The brightness range is too great. Try using a reflecter to put some light into the shadows. A white card might do it, or cover the card with straightened out crumpled aluminum foil if you need more fill light.
Roger Hicks
11-17-2009, 08:32
As Al says, use some fill -- even a small flash with a handkerchief over it. It's the only hope.
Cheers,
R.
Daneinbalto
11-17-2009, 08:33
The reflector is a neat idea! And the muffled flash
Al Kaplan
11-17-2009, 08:45
The flash will work nicely with B&W but you'll have to filter it to match the color of candle light with color film. Most electronic flash is in the 5500 to 6000 degree Kelivin range. Candle light is even warmer than tungsten, probably about 2500 or lower. You'll need to cover the flash with an 85 A, B or C filter. They should all be "close enough". Vivitar supplied them for several of their flashes.
Roger Hicks
11-17-2009, 09:02
Candle-light is about 1750K but I'm not sure you need to match to it. A very weak fill light may well make the candles look warmer by contrast. The only hope is to try it!
Cheers,
R.
Tuolumne
11-17-2009, 09:04
Seems like alot of trouble for what sounds like a snapshot. I would expose for the face and let the highlights go their own way. Works in many of my birthday cake snaps.
http://digital-photography-school.com/14-tips-for-great-candlelight-photography
with 400 speed film, i use 1/15 sec at f2
sepiareverb
11-17-2009, 09:35
I find a shotgun works pretty well in the dark.
http://digital-photography-school.com/14-tips-for-great-candlelight-photography
with 400 speed film, i use 1/15 sec at f2
my list says +10 stops, that would be 1/30 at f2 ... so that's in the range
sojournerphoto
11-17-2009, 10:01
I would shoot in manual mode, bounce the flash of something big and white like the ceiling or a wall and (ideally) filter the flash with a half cto gel. Then you could leave the cake neutral to very slightly warm and let the candle flames be warm in shade, which is what we expect.
If you do it with digital you could dial it in in a few shots - first without flash set the manual exposure to get the flames right and then add enough flash to fill the blackness. Harder with film, unless you use a mnual flash setting.
Mike
edied to add - Strobist (http://www.strobist.blogspot.com/) is a good resource for falsh use.
Daneinbalto
11-17-2009, 11:04
I now managed to upload my best attempt in the original post
Tuolumne
11-17-2009, 11:29
I now managed to upload my best attempt in the original post
Very nice. So, what's the problem?
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I now managed to upload my best attempt in the original post
bit of work on that and it'll be fine
Very nice. So, what's the problem?
/T
I agree. I think it looks very good as is. If you told me that is what you intended I wouldn't argue :)
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