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TVphotog
02-28-2009, 14:25
Okay, in reference to several threads, I have pulled my Kiev rebuild out of mothballs. I still need a few parts, but she is mostly painted. I need to figure out how to disassemble the baseplate. Unfortunately, it appears that my baseplate is older than the example on the KSS as the bottom locks don't unscrew. It appears that their mounting points are melted somehow together. I have deleted the engraved Kiev logos and plan to replace them with either a decal or some dry-rub lettering. If it is a decal, I need help deciding on the font to use. I played with a few and I can't decide. Take a look and let me know what the general consensus on the board is. I am having a hard time deciding between numbers 2,5 and 9. Number 8 looks kind of cool too. So what sayeth the board? Oh yeah, I forgot, most likely they will be printed in this red, maybe a little darker.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/cgarman/KIEVSCRIPTS.jpg
photo4ls
02-28-2009, 14:38
#3 seems fitting.
Richbuckle
02-28-2009, 15:45
2 looks prettiest to me. On second thoughts; 3 is more brutal - maybe that feeling fits the old Arsenal more.
TVphotog
02-28-2009, 15:59
Number 3 is called Kremlin Advisor. Rather fitting...
hks3sgte
02-28-2009, 19:10
Leave it blank...
dragunov
02-28-2009, 19:33
my vote goes for #9...
...or 'leica' in red lettering.
6 for me. (hope you're confused now ;) )
I like several of them ok but think they would all look better were the "K" the same size as the other letters.
That said, I like #6.
Rob
and what do you think about this logo?
http://www.sovietcams.com/sovietcams/m/m_images/wfiles/iZGWOTCRT.jpg
it is made for ukrainian market...
1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 and 9 contain errors. Most notably, "Б" and "В" are different letters, as are "И" and "П", and "З" and "Е".
It's like printing Lelca, Leioa or Teica on your Leica if you're Japanese.
(Edit: And 6 has a very weird E, too.)
Philipp
My personal preference would be something like this:
67961
You can basically use any uppercase stencil font, write "KNEB", flip the N horizontally into an И and it will be fine.
I would suggest the original 1947 script - I have a reduced drawing I can send .
OOPs ! Too small an image size ;
I cannot comment this. Made my day! ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This is kinda C&C: Red Alert writings)))))))
Anyway, I would recommend this engraving, like very old Kievs:
http://www3.telus.net/public/rpnchbck/Pic_5_Kiev_III_49.JPG
I have the standard KNeB engraving drawn if you would lke to scan it .
Looks good on a Kiev 4 .
dee
TVphotog
03-01-2009, 18:31
Yeah, I tried to comment earlier and it erased my post. Anyway, most of the misspellings are related to the fact that I used fonts rather than reset my keyboard for Cryllic. I looked for something close to what you show in your pic Dee, I couldn't find anything I was happy with. Quasit, I already have one kiev with that engraving. A very nice 1949-50 model, with a ZK lens. I want something different, but with a definite commie flair. I think I may keep searching. Either that, or I need to play some more in photoshop. Maybe if I take a pic of the faceplate and then put the writing on myself I can get a better idea of what I want. thanks so far everybody. I am still up in the air.
Numbers 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9 are with wrong cyryllic spelling.
As the initial project of Contax Copying was called `Volga` or `Волга` (russian river), then just put this engraving.
Like on this picture (above Contax) :
http://www3.telus.net/public/rpnchbck/Pic_1.jpg
TVphotog
03-02-2009, 09:36
As I said, the spelling is a result of the font, because all of them were spelled the exact same way. The differences in the fonts accounted for the incorrect spelling. I used the english spelling here that we have all accepted K-N-E-B. I don't know why some of the fonts pictured it properly and others did not. All I know is that I spelled it improperly/correctly;)
TVphotog
03-02-2009, 19:09
Okay, a couple of new pics. Working with photoshop and setting the language of the computer I came up with these, which should contain the proper spelling...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/cgarman/kievface2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/cgarman/kievface4.jpg
I should have one or two more shortly.
TVphotog
03-02-2009, 19:36
Okay, two more real quick. this one is still KNEB
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/cgarman/1.jpg
This one is taking QUAsit's advice. If was code named the Volga, then here it is.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/cgarman/2.jpg
Personally, I like the original Kiev engraving more than any of your mockups. However, I really like the Volga suggestion. That's what I would do.
BillBingham2
03-02-2009, 20:06
What about the cyryllic initials for the KGB?
B2 (;->
When first KIEVs were produced there were no KGB (КГБ) - there was MGB (МГБ) - Ministry of Governmental Security...
When first KIEVs were produced there were no KGB (КГБ) - there was MGB (МГБ) - Ministry of Governmental Security...
In addition, taking a Kiev and painting KGB or whatever on it would be like taking an Argus and painting CIA on it. At best, it's tacky. ;)
My choice :)
Btw. is it expensive ? If you don't minfd, what is the price ?
I always wanted to make my Kiev look like a Contax II.
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7962/28126761.jpg
Phantomas
03-03-2009, 02:12
By the way, most of those spell "Kieb" not "Kiev", hope you're aware of that. That letter is Cyrillic "B".
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