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spacebar
02-24-2009, 21:06
Hey all
I am currently using a Nokton 40/1.4 on my G1 with the Novoflex adapter and I really love this combination.
However I am also very interested to use other 'old' lenses on the G1. As I have the DMW-MA1 Panasonic M4/3 to 4/3 adapter, I am thinking of picking up a 4/3 to OM adapter. However that means I'd be using two adapters to mount an old OM lens.
Has anyone tried this? Will this prevent me from getting infinity given the additional distance as a result of two adapters vs one?
Appreciate any input! :-)
I have not tried it but in principle it should work - as you have described them one adapter increases register distance from m4/3 to 4/3 and the other from 4/3 to OM. Why would this not work ? - except that minor variations in tolerances might create some issues at the margin. And the only way to tell is to try.
sebastel
02-24-2009, 23:59
works.
no real issues.
djonesii
02-25-2009, 04:14
I am stacking a hawk peng cine adapter and a cine to Nikon f, and it works just fine. It does however defeat the idea of a 100mm F1.8 pancake!
Dave
Is anyone using Nikon lenses on a double mount system or have found a mount which the G1 will take Nikkor lenses?
Leo
djonesii
02-25-2009, 10:09
Leo;
Look one post above ;-}, I have a G1--> cine ( c mount ), then a c --> Nikon.
It works just fine. There are at least 3 sources for the G1 --> cine on e-bay.
The issue is that the C Mount to F mount is about as big as a 50mm 1.8 pancake, so for that lens, it doubles the volume!
When I get home, I'll add a photo of the rig, and a sample.
Dave
Opps, sorry I didn't read above very carefully. Love to see a photo of your setup.
Leo
digitalintrigue
02-25-2009, 16:49
There are lots of multiple adapter combinations:
http://doiop.com/g1adapters
Using the appropriate adapter to 4/3 and the Panasonic 4/3 adapter, I have used Nikon F, M42 screw mount, and Minolta MD lenses.
For Canon FD lenses, I've actually used three adapters: Novoflex M adapter for G1, a generic Leica thread mount adapter, and the Canon Lens Converter B.
I'm told Rayqual will have their direct Nikon F adapter shortly.
spacebar
03-05-2009, 01:45
Thanks for the answers, all! Works well... looking forward to using more lenses on the G1..
I agree, on the answers, lot of information that helps. Lots of lenses to consider if one has the G1.
Leo
wjlapier
03-07-2009, 21:21
I am stacking a hawk peng cine adapter and a cine to Nikon f, and it works just fine. It does however defeat the idea of a 100mm F1.8 pancake!
Dave
I was wondering about that combo. Could you post a picture with a Nikon lens and everything on a G1 so I could see how it looks?
Shin Oyama
03-14-2009, 16:26
Let me get this straight. Can I use Nikkor S lenses on the G1 via my Nikon S to Leica adapter? Would be able to use my Nikon S 35/1.8 on it?!
digitalintrigue
03-14-2009, 17:56
The answer to your first question is absolutely! The answer to the second, not sure. I use a 35/2.5 Nikkor on my G1 but the 35/1.8 has a rear element that extends further. Put the lens on the adapters and see how far it extends past the bayonet, and see if there is enough room in the camera body to fit the lens without touching the baffle...
I have use the following combo:
1) PK-4/3 + DMW-MA1
2) M42-4/3 + DMW-MA1
The result was great. I think I posted some pictures a couple of days ago.
-PB
It doesn't matter if it takes one or two (or even three) adaptors to go between a particular lens and the G1. The total length will be the same. Plus or minus a few thousandths of manufacturing tolerance of course.
I just tried a Nikon-4/3 adaptor on a Panasonic DMC-L1k. I couldn't get the shutter to fire. I see the lens working through the viewfinder. I can focus without a problem. I put the camera in manual mode but the shutter doesn't fire.
Any suggestions?
I just tried a Nikon-4/3 adaptor on a Panasonic DMC-L1k. I couldn't get the shutter to fire. I see the lens working through the viewfinder. I can focus without a problem. I put the camera in manual mode but the shutter doesn't fire.
Any suggestions?
At this very moment in fact just by chance I have this very combo of lenses and camera in use and I have just taken a dozen shots with it - and have takne many in the past. I am rpesnetly trying out my lovely old early AF 55mm f2.8 AF Micro Nikkor (in manual mode of course.) The secret is in a menu settings!!! You must tell the camera that it should allow shutter release without a lens fitted. (I think this is the menu item that needs adjustment from memory - I have had miy camera for a year or more and of course I set it up way back then so I am a bit rusty on details.) As the Nikon lens you are using does not "talk" to the Pany camera body (even if it is an AF lens that has its own Nikon chip) the Panasonic camera thinks there is no lens in place and prevents the shutter firing and will continue to do so till you change this menu setting. You will find it as the last item in your custom menu list. cheers
There is one other concern to watch out for when using adapters, especially in stacks that place the weight of the lens some distance from the camera flange. This increases the bending moment on the inboard adapter, the one next to the camera flange. Some adapters are made in two parts and joined by very small set screws in the rim, and these can loosen if too much lens weight is applied. Look the adapters over carefully and tighten any loose screws. I have even applied a bonding agent to the mating surfaces before assembly, then tightened the screws. You don't want to drop a favorite old lens while experimenting.
Jim N.
At this very moment in fact just by chance I have this very combo of lenses and camera in use and I have just taken a dozen shots with it - and have takne many in the past. I am rpesnetly trying out my lovely old early AF 55mm f2.8 AF Micro Nikkor (in manual mode of course.) The secret is in a menu settings!!! You must tell the camera that it should allow shutter release without a lens fitted. (I think this is the menu item that needs adjustment from memory - I have had miy camera for a year or more and of course I set it up way back then so I am a bit rusty on details.) As the Nikon lens you are using does not "talk" to the Pany camera body (even if it is an AF lens that has its own Nikon chip) the Panasonic camera thinks there is no lens in place and prevents the shutter firing and will continue to do so till you change this menu setting. You will find it as the last item in your custom menu list. cheers
Thank you peterm1 - I found the menu setting and it worked perfectly!!
I continue to be amazed by the quality I am getting from the Panasonic L1. Have you tried the Leica 14-150mm lens? They are hard to find and expensive. But I am seriously looking into getting one since the Leica 14-50mm lens does so well.
I started a monumental task about a month ago. The VC M-to Lumix adapter and every lens I could figure out how to mount on it! So far I have done 43 lenses - have another 30 to go!
I have the Leicaflex SLR lenses to M-adapter as well as the Nikon F to M and by just "stacking: them it works fine. Of course they are "pre-set" aperture and some are easier to focus than others.
The Orion style adapter works fine too!
My 180f3.4 Apo-Telyt becomes a rather formidable 360f3.4!
It also works on the Visoflex III and Viso II bellows. With the live view function it makes it easy to shoot macro as you can see focus coming in place. Of course, the 65f3.5 V-Elmar becomes a 130 mm macro - but it does work.
If you go to our Flickr and "tag" Lumix G1 there are about 200 shots on it now with various combinations.
Have to retrieve my 400 and 560 Telyts for some truly long shots this week.
No, I am not going digital, but there are times when it is convinient. At the moment my darkroom is "down" for a ceiling repair so the G1 fills the void when I need a picture fix!
Stacking works like a charm. This is taken with the G1, m4/3 to 4/3 adapter plus 4/3 to Contax/Yashica adapter (Fotodiox):
http://kirkh.smugmug.com/photos/557574363_o6mTc-O.jpg
Lens is a Contax/Yashica Disogon 28/2.8. I'm gonna love this lens for B/W.
Cheers,
Kirk
Robin Harrison
06-08-2009, 02:06
Yes. But be careful where you hold the lens when stacking. The more adapters you have, the more release buttons there are to hit.
I was at Lords for the cricket last week. I took in my G1 with a Tamron 350 f/5.6 mirror lens to catch some of the action. That requried:
a Tamron Adaptall-2 to Contax/Yashica adapter,
a Contax/Yashica to Leica M adapter,
a Leica M to Micro 4/3rds adapter.
The lens is short but heavy, so I was holding the setup by the lens rather than the G1 body. And then my hand fell on a button release.
Then the camera fell off the lens.
Then the camera fell INTO the pint of beer belonging to the gentleman in front of me.
My G1 now has beer stains ON the sensor. That aint cool.
Yes. But be careful where you hold the lens when stacking. The more adapters you have, the more release buttons there are to hit.
I was at Lords for the cricket last week. I took in my G1 with a Tamron 350 f/5.6 mirror lens to catch some of the action. That requried:
a Tamron Adaptall-2 to Contax/Yashica adapter,
a Contax/Yashica to Leica M adapter,
a Leica M to Micro 4/3rds adapter.
The lens is short but heavy, so I was holding the setup by the lens rather than the G1 body. And then my hand fell on a button release.
Then the camera fell off the lens.
Then the camera fell INTO the pint of beer belonging to the gentleman in front of me.
My G1 now has beer stains ON the sensor. That aint cool.
Ouch! And now all your photos smell of beer - don't you just hate that?
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