now, i want a second body. [Archive]

back alley

01-26-2009, 17:52

been thinking about it some, getting a second g1 body...one for the af kit lens and later on the af 20/1.7 lens (also the 45-200) and one for using the zm lenses with manual focus.

having the 20 (40 on the g1) and a 70/2.8 or 100/1.5 sonnar just might make a killer combo for my kind of shooting.

i wish the g1 bodies were available on their own.

joe

Al Patterson

01-26-2009, 18:08

Have enough hardware yet Joe?

I'm glad you seem to like the G1 though. It's on my list of items to watch for possible purchase.

back alley

01-26-2009, 18:26

we loves the hardware al!!

back alley

01-26-2009, 18:40

black, blue or red?

kshapero

01-26-2009, 18:41

I went the other way. Just got a Nikon FM3a. But good luck, Joe, with the gear.

monochromejrnl

01-26-2009, 18:44

black, blue or red?

why not one of each?

back alley

01-26-2009, 18:58

i only want 2...

Al Patterson

01-26-2009, 18:59

black, blue or red?

I just can't get my mind to accept red as a camera colour.

Speaking of hardware, I just found out that the in Computer class I'm taking we will be building a PC. Just what I need another XP box. I really need to cull both my PC and Camera collections down to things I actually use, instead of things I used to use.

bmattock

01-26-2009, 19:09

I just can't get my mind to accept red as a camera colour.

Speaking of hardware, I just found out that the in Computer class I'm taking we will be building a PC. Just what I need another XP box. I really need to cull both my PC and Camera collections down to things I actually use, instead of things I used to use.

Install Linux on it. Then you can actually use it for something.

back alley

01-26-2009, 19:11

the blue seems too subdued... like the red, maybe the black.

Al Patterson

01-26-2009, 19:38

Install Linux on it. Then you can actually use it for something.

I'm thinking of taking the older, slower PC and puting Ubuntu on it. It could be worse, it could come with Vista...

bmattock

01-26-2009, 19:42

I'm thinking of taking the older, slower PC and puting Ubuntu on it. It could be worse, it could come with Vista...

Ubuntu is great. I'm running 8.10 server and 8.04 desktop. Top notch stuff. Should take much better advantage of your old hardware than XP would. Vista....shiver...

ChrisN

01-26-2009, 21:14

i only want 2...

But three is the only perfect number. It worked with the P. :)

Bingley

01-26-2009, 21:49

Red is the new black, I'm told.

wlewisiii

01-26-2009, 21:57

I just can't get my mind to accept red as a camera colour.

Speaking of hardware, I just found out that the in Computer class I'm taking we will be building a PC. Just what I need another XP box. I really need to cull both my PC and Camera collections down to things I actually use, instead of things I used to use.

OS X X86. A decent use of that kind of hardware.

William

rover

01-27-2009, 01:55

black, blue or red?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Since this question is already asked........

Are you going to wait until after PMA the first week of March? If any new M43 cameras are introduced maybe....
1) You will find a different body more appealing.
2) With the introduction of different options the price of the G1 may come down a little more.

back alley

01-27-2009, 05:23

shadowfox

01-27-2009, 09:18

Red, joe, you know you want it ;)

I think the red version is just cool-looking. And I am for one can't understand why the delay for Olympus, the (guinea-pig) G1 has proven to be quite popular.

Don't tell me that they are not ready, if they can crank up new models for their P&S, they have resources to spare to produce the m4/3rd cameras.

xayraa33

01-27-2009, 09:32

I would wait for the Oly micro 4/3rd.
it can't be that long for it to come to market.

Michael Da Re

01-27-2009, 09:32

Install Linux on it. Then you can actually use it for something.
I agree 100%!:D

SolaresLarrave

01-27-2009, 10:35

Red, joe, it goes with your bold nature. :)

RayPA

01-27-2009, 10:45

i really have no reason to rush. my shooting is limited at this frozen time of year so i may wait.

but i am not one of those that are expecting olympus to come out with a near rangefinder. if they have i.s. in the body then it would be better for me and the 50 sonnar as i shake a bit more these days.

I agree. Wait. Getting the G1 was cool--early adopter-ish. Now you can have some fun, but i think you should wait to see what other offerings show up on the m4/3 front from both Olympus and Pani (?) before committing to a 2nd G1 body. $.02

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digitalintrigue

01-27-2009, 13:21

I'm curious as to what other G1 owners think regarding the upcoming Oly micro 4/3. What additional features would it take for existing G1 owners to switch to the Oly, or to buy an Oly as a 2nd body?

ferider

01-27-2009, 13:37

Does cameraleather make a blue G1 cover yet ? :) Would keep you busy until PMA, Joe ...

Rick Waldroup

01-27-2009, 13:44

Has anyone heard about the new Oly m4/3 cameras- the M100 and the M1?

RayPA

01-27-2009, 13:48

I'm curious as to what other G1 owners think regarding the upcoming Oly micro 4/3. What additional features would it take for existing G1 owners to switch to the Oly, or to buy an Oly as a 2nd body?

If the IQ was equal or better than the G1 and the camera was smaller that would be a big plus. I was really intrigued by the Oly concept camera. I like the Pen-like size and look. I like the EVF on the G1. I'm not sure something like that would be available on the Oly, but an LCD the quality of the G1 or the LX3(!!) that could swing and tilt would be a nice substitute.

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Tuolumne

01-27-2009, 14:05

Originally Posted by digitalintrigue http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/themes/graphite/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=980919#post980919)
"I'm curious as to what other G1 owners think regarding the upcoming Oly micro 4/3. What additional features would it take for existing G1 owners to switch to the Oly, or to buy an Oly as a 2nd body?"

All metal body with Leica CLE form factor and EVF as good as or better than the G1. Oh no...wait...that's the Leica m4/3rds body I was describing. :D

/T

scho

01-27-2009, 14:24

I'm curious as to what other G1 owners think regarding the upcoming Oly micro 4/3. What additional features would it take for existing G1 owners to switch to the Oly, or to buy an Oly as a 2nd body?

Well if it looks anything like the mock up then I'm not at all interested. Looks like a cheap P&S. If they provide a weather sealed pro body with EVF and swing out LCD, like the G1, then I'd be interested.

Al Patterson

01-27-2009, 14:53

Has anyone heard about the new Oly m4/3 cameras- the M100 and the M1?

No, but I'd like to. I haven't heard anything beyond the initial concept announcement.

Do you have a link?

Rick Waldroup

01-27-2009, 14:59

Al, I came across this topic on a 4/3 forum this morning. Here is the link that they were talking about. It includes a discussion about the lenses to be issued with the cameras. Now, all of this is of course, rumor, but still it sounds promising. Unfortunately, there are no photos.
http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2009/01/rumors-olympus-m1-and-m100-will-be-two-new-micro-four-thirds-cameras.html

Rick Waldroup

01-27-2009, 15:18

Al, here is a link to the discussion about this latest rumor concerning the Olympus M1 and M100

http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/showthread.php?t=43785

kbg32

01-27-2009, 15:28

Joe, wait till you see what Olympus has to offer. Just another month or so. The G1 is a wonderful little camera though!

back alley

01-27-2009, 15:37

Joe, wait till you see what Olympus has to offer. Just another month or so. The G1 is a wonderful little camera though!

you're doing some nice things with it keith.

i can wait. full shooting season hasn't started here yet.

RayPA

01-27-2009, 15:57

Al, here is a link to the discussion about this latest rumor concerning the Olympus M1 and M100

http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/showthread.php?t=43785

Thanks, Rick. I'd not seen this view of the concept camera. Sadly, no tilt/swing LCD, BUT it is a prototype:

http://a.img-dpreview.com/news/0809/Olympus/mft5-001.jpg

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Phantomas

01-27-2009, 16:00

I wish they didn't call it "G1". No every time I see it mentioned I think "Contax". Doh.

Al Patterson

01-27-2009, 17:20

Al, here is a link to the discussion about this latest rumor concerning the Olympus M1 and M100

http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/showthread.php?t=43785

Thanks! I don't follow 4/3 news as I have a Pentax mount digital, but the idea of a camera I could use with both FD and M lenses would be really cool. I may still end up with the G1, but as I won't be buying until later this year anyway, I might as well wait and see what Olympus comes up with.

Just imagine using the 40mm Summicron-C as a portrait lens.

back alley

01-27-2009, 17:33

al,
i have been thinking of the 40 sonnar...

back alley

02-01-2009, 10:19

i cave'd...just ordered a second black g1 kit.

i had a brief outing yesterday with the g1 and 25/2.8 zm lens and it was a hoot.
my plan is to have the cq adapter permanently attached to one body and use the second body for the m43 lenses.

kbg32

02-01-2009, 10:32

Gotta love ya Joe!

back alley

02-01-2009, 10:46

what can i say...i'm a weak man!

wanna buy a sony dslr?
;)

sepiareverb

02-01-2009, 11:35

I'd trade this body in in a heartbeat if I could. Aches, pains, my mis-spent youth catching up with me.

back alley

02-01-2009, 11:38

I'd trade this body in in a heartbeat if I could. Aches, pains, my mis-spent youth catching up with me.

you and me both!!

who would have believed that a body could hurt so damn much...

ampguy

02-01-2009, 12:10

scho

02-01-2009, 12:26

I like the looks of this one, and don't need the tilt/swing of the G1, but little is known of the features or specs yet:

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/default.asp?newsID=3716

and I hope it's available in black, or non-orange.

Sorry, but I don't like this concept at all. Looks like just another P&S built from an Altoids tin with a lens stuck on the front. Not very innovative at all. I would like to see Oly offer a robust weatherproof body with the features of the G1, including EVF and swing/tilt LCD. The latter is a godsend for tripod work. Internal OIS would also be nice, but not if it results in a bloated body like the E3. Right now I'm pretty happy with the G1 as is and Oly, Leica, or anyone else planning a new MFT body will have to work hard to better the G1 as far as I'm concerned.

back alley

02-01-2009, 14:13

i agree with carl and i am a long time oly fan.

the g1 might be a marketing fluke or an act of genius but whatever the original intent of this little camera was supposed to be, i think it's pretty wonderful.

Tuolumne

02-01-2009, 14:20

Leica needs to jump in and offer the real deal in m4/3rds format. I'd pay up to $3K for one that was made right.

/T

back alley

02-01-2009, 14:37

Leica needs to jump in and offer the real deal in m4/3rds format. I'd pay up to $3K for one that was made right.

/T

what are you talking about, real deal?

the g1 is 'right' enough my friend.

good images, comfortable body, near silent shutter, noiseless af.

leica has made one fumble after another.
leica is still living on past glories, most folks here are using well used old bodies and lenses and a small minority buy new.
and the new stuff needs ir filters to work properly and the lenses fall apart as much as any other maker but they cost 8 times as much.

if that is the 'real deal', you can keep it.

joe

back alley

02-05-2009, 16:12

it's here!!

2 bodies, a cameraquest m to m4/3 adapter and tomorrow off from work!!

let's see, which zeiss lens will i use tomorrow? i may try the 50 sonnar and look further down the street than i normally do.

joe

Socke

02-05-2009, 16:16

I hate the G1! Why does it have to look like a SLR? I'll wait for whatever comes next. The pictures from the G1 look promising, but the camera itself doesn't.

digitalintrigue

02-05-2009, 16:23

It's just a throw-away digital, like every other digital. It will be worthless in 2 or 3 years. That said, it's absolutely perfect for me.

Why worry about looks. :) If you want pretty, buy an old rangefinder like a Canon P or a Leica or something.

kshapero

02-05-2009, 16:25

where is the G2?

back alley

02-05-2009, 16:32

I hate the G1! Why does it have to look like a SLR? I'll wait for whatever comes next. The pictures from the G1 look promising, but the camera itself doesn't.

some kind of bias here, can't be very healthy;)

back alley

02-05-2009, 16:33

where is the G2?

i told you, it just arrived today.
if i get another that one will be the g3....

digitalintrigue

02-05-2009, 16:34

Joe, what film are you going to use? B&W or color? :D

I don't recall you posting any shots with the 50...yeah, look a little further out. ;)

back alley

02-05-2009, 16:47

i start with colour and end up with b&w.

i took the 50 along last weekend but never used it.
last weekend was a total bust photo wise.

if i got another adapter i could use 21 and 50, that would be a good combo...

Socke

02-05-2009, 17:09

astroman

02-06-2009, 16:30

Joe,
This G1 really interests me after reading all your post as an alternative when i dont want to carry around my heavy dslr body.I looked at one yesterday and was curious as to how you find the manual focusing with the LCD finder.The camera seem solid but the finder Im not sold on.Im not planing on using my m mount lens just the kit lens.
Thanks

back alley

02-06-2009, 17:28

are you thinking of manually focusing the kit lens?
i use af for the 2 panasonic lenses i have.

using the zm lenses i find the manual focusing fine, especially the longer lenses. in lower light the noise increases but it's still pretty easy to focus.

if you do get a g1 i recommend getting an adapter and trying your m lenses, it's great fun.

digitalintrigue

02-06-2009, 17:37

Exactly! I might get another Robot Royal instead :)

There you go! And there is even an adapter for the G1 to use Robot lenses. :)

JoeV

02-06-2009, 18:20

... and was curious as to how you find the manual focusing with the LCD finder.The camera seem solid but the finder Im not sold on.Im not planing on using my m mount lens just the kit lens.
Thanks

I find manually focusing the kit lens to be absolutely a dream. The 10x zoom window automatically pops up in the VF when you turn the manual focus ring on the kit lens.

I prefer to use the EVF (like a "real" camera) and have the playback preview set to 1 second, which is brief enough so as not to be distracting but long enough to tell if you got the shot or not.

For me, I find the live-view EVF is the thing that changes the equation regarding the whole RF vs SLR focusing debate. It's an entirely new way to use a camera, especially when you have shutter speed preview turned on.

~Joe