New cheaper LTM, M, and FD adapters for G1 [Archive]

ferider

01-22-2009, 17:15

BillBingham2

01-22-2009, 17:22

I hope they do a Nikon S adapter too by the time Olympus comes out with their 4/3M camera.

B2 (;->

johnastovall

01-22-2009, 18:00

I'm waiting for the G2 with overlayed optical VF/digital RF on top ...

One can dream ....

PS: If however, a PEN F adapter becomes available, I might submit to the G1. :) Reasons:
- I wouldn't feel guilty about "wasting frame"
- imagine a good bokeh, effective 84/1.2 lens, tiny, too :) :)

It looks like Rayqual may be doing a PEN adapter and a Pentax 110. Check this out. (http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showpost.php?p=55465&postcount=13)

The G Zuiko Auto W 20/3.5 is a Pen lens and the middle camera sports a Pentax 110.

wlewisiii

01-22-2009, 18:03

digitalintrigue

01-22-2009, 19:14

I hope they do a Nikon S adapter too by the time Olympus comes out with their 4/3M camera.

I'd find it unlikely anyone will do a direct adapter with a helical, but one can always use two adapters like this. :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/masa-/3127744520/sizes/o/in/pool-980511@N21/

bmattock

01-22-2009, 19:32

<glances at 35/2 chrome-nose> If I could afford it, that would be the one digital I could honestly see buying. It's nice to finally have a real solution for FD users.

I'll watch that in case I win the lotto :bang:

William

You and me both. In my case, some lovely old FL glass would come out to play, too. Erm, 55mm f/1.2...yeah...

digitalintrigue

01-22-2009, 19:35

Erm, 55mm f/1.2...yeah...

I'll be trying that out in a day or two. ;)

tbarker13

01-22-2009, 19:47

This is tempting. I really want an adaptor for my m lenses.

RayPA

01-22-2009, 20:16

not so...

the g1 is a toy that produces plastic images...

...designed for soccer moms and people scared of bulky intimidating dSLRs...

...repeat until your ears bleed!

Has anyone bought one of these yet?

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digitalintrigue

01-22-2009, 20:20

As far as buying an adapter, this guy did:

http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?p=71084#post71084

wlewisiii

01-22-2009, 20:22

Erm, 55mm f/1.2...yeah...

Oh, yummy. I had one & sold it in a fit of stupidity. But what is worse is what this adapter just did to the price of 24/2.8 SSC lenses :bang: 2x crop can be painful at times...

William

digitalintrigue

01-22-2009, 20:24

There are several 55/1.2s and 58/1.2s up for auction now.

How good is the 24/2.8 SSC?

wlewisiii

01-22-2009, 20:43

Let's just say that any Canon lens with the old breech lock (BL) and SSC on the lens is worth buying. At the very least, I can honestly say I've never had a bad one. Many of the newer lenses are as good & occasionally better but the older lenses have been cheaper because of the lack of a real digital use for them. Now, though, all the old SSC lenses prices will jump because there will be enough people that know that 1) Canon makes good glass and 2) prices have been depressed since EOS came out.

Now, I picked the 24/2.8 SSC at random because it's a "normal" lens on the digital camera in question due to the 2x crop factor. It's a very good lens in itself, but that wasn't why I commented about it. Really the ones to look for are the 17/4 SSC or the 20/2.8 SSC as these will still provide something resembling a wideangle view on the the tiny little sensor Olympus uses.

In the long run, I'll probably get one of these cameras & a FD/FL adaptor, but I'll probably burn a heck of a lot of film in my FTbN & T90 in the meantime... :bang:

William

digitalintrigue

01-22-2009, 20:52

Do the 20 or 24 have floating elements for close focus correction?

wlewisiii

01-22-2009, 21:01

Do the 20 or 24 have floating elements for close focus correction?

Yes to both according to Bob Shell's Canon Compendium which is the most authoritative resource I have.

William

djonesii

01-23-2009, 05:08

Has anyone heard about when the CQ adapter will be available?

The ebay one's look like mid Feb ....

Dave

Avotius

01-23-2009, 05:23

Great, finally the adapters are coming available in China. I am going to buy one of these adapters, thanks for pointing this out to me. It is Lunar New years here right now so everyone is on vacation for at least a week or so, none the less I will try to get my mitts on this adapter. This month has been a really good month money wise for me so I will be picking up a G1 soon.

RayPA

01-23-2009, 05:26

Has anyone heard about when the CQ adapter will be available?

The ebay one's look like mid Feb ....

Dave

?? mid-Feb. ?? It looks like those are available now. You'll just have to wait until after the Chinese holiday before it's shipped (Feb. 2).

I'm still waiting to hear from CQ. I'm on the mailing list. However, this offer is very tempting. Good price and availability. Quality is the only question.

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mabelsound

01-23-2009, 05:29

I think micro 4/3 adapters will be down to 40 or 50 bucks by year's end, from a great variety of manufacturers.

djonesii

01-23-2009, 07:38

?? mid-Feb. ?? It looks like those are available now. You'll just have to wait until after the Chinese holiday before it's shipped (Feb. 2).

I'm still waiting to hear from CQ. I'm on the mailing list. However, this offer is very tempting. Good price and availability. Quality is the only question.

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Yes, mid Feb. Ships via post from Singapore at the BEST Feb 2nd, then at BEST, 6 days to get here, earliest arrival 8 Feb. More likely, ships around the 4th or 5th, then takes 10 days to get here, so around the 15th would be the reasonable date, or Mid Feb :cool:

Dave

raid

01-23-2009, 12:08

You and me both. In my case, some lovely old FL glass would come out to play, too. Erm, 55mm f/1.2...yeah...

I also have quite a few FD lenses that could be used here. What is the magnification factor on the G1?

wlewisiii

01-23-2009, 12:19

It's a 2x crop, Raid. That's why my comments earlier about the 24/2.8 as it would give a normal FOV on this sensor. Have to go buy a 14/2.8 L to get a wide...

William

RayPA

01-23-2009, 12:41

Yes, mid Feb. Ships via post from Singapore at the BEST Feb 2nd, then at BEST, 6 days to get here, earliest arrival 8 Feb. More likely, ships around the 4th or 5th, then takes 10 days to get here, so around the 15th would be the reasonable date, or Mid Feb :cool:

Dave

I was referring to your question about availability. :) They're available now on ebay. When you get them is another matter. :) I haven't heard anything on the CQ adapters other than the end of Jan.

:-)

raid

01-23-2009, 15:32

It's a 2x crop, Raid. That's why my comments earlier about the 24/2.8 as it would give a normal FOV on this sensor. Have to go buy a 14/2.8 L to get a wide...

William

William,
How would my fisheye 7.5mm look like on the camera? Would is a 15mm "fisheye" lens ? The 17mm is rectilinear, so a 34mm 4.0 would be a standard 35mm lens.

wlewisiii

01-23-2009, 15:37

Well, there was a 15mm fisheye made by Canon so I'd presume it would look like that - now that 15mm as a 30mm fisheye could get downright funky :)

William

Avotius

01-23-2009, 17:35

Well, there was a 15mm fisheye made by Canon so I'd presume it would look like that - now that 15mm as a 30mm fisheye could get downright funky :)

William

My girlfriend has the canon 15 f2.8 fisheye lens that she uses on her 5D, its really really good, I think if you stuck it on a G1 though you would loose a lot of the fun of the lens because of the extreem corners would be cropped off, so what you would have would be a 30mm equiv. 2.8 lens with some barrel distortion. Hm....that 15mm lens really is great though, sharpest wide angle I have ever used though on the G1 I think I would rather just use the kit lens...

Diane B

01-23-2009, 17:53

Avotius

01-23-2009, 18:01

My understanding is that the Canon EF mount lenses won't be able to be used with the G1--adaptors won't be available. Besides---most all of them will be big and heavy. My smallest--the 50 f/1.4 and 28 f/1.8 are as big as the 14-45 zoom and feel heavier (I haven't checked the weights). I have the Sigma 15 FE--I wouldn't like a FE (never did) on a crop body really. There are so many other lenses availlable for use--alternative, legacy, native--and the future lenses are supposed to be a 7-14 f/4, 20 f/1.7 (the one I'm waiting for), and a 14-140 or 150. I'm happy to keep all my Canon mounts for my 5D LOL.

Diane

Not to mention that there would be no aperture control on such a combo. Also Canon EF wides for the most part are not known for being all that great. The kit lens on the G1 is not to be underestimated, and here is to hoping the 7-14 lens they are coming out with will be a real cracker and someone gives us a 24-70 f2 type that olympus gets on their 4/3 cams!

I cant wait till I get paid on the 15th, going to get me that G1...

back alley

01-23-2009, 18:04

i fear the price of the 7-14 but really am looking forward to the 20/1.7

joe

johnastovall

01-23-2009, 18:11

My girlfriend has the canon 15 f2.8 fisheye lens that she uses on her 5D, its really really good, I think if you stuck it on a G1 though you would loose a lot of the fun of the lens because of the extreem corners would be cropped off, so what you would have would be a 30mm equiv. 2.8 lens with some barrel distortion. Hm....that 15mm lens really is great though, sharpest wide angle I have ever used though on the G1 I think I would rather just use the kit lens...

Can not use EF lenses. No way to control the aperture. But FD's are fine.

Avotius

01-23-2009, 18:15

i fear the price of the 7-14 but really am looking forward to the 20/1.7

joe

I too fear the price of the 7-14, sticking a lens priced at say....1000 dollars on a 500 dollar "consumer" body seems a little sily. Hopefully we will get a really good quality lens for under what....500 dollars? I might pay 5-600 for such a lens but it would have to be pretty nice quality. Seems if you follow Panasonic's thinking with the G1 as a bridge camera from point and shoots but not to the size, expense or absolute dslr'ness and so such a market would not be interested in paying 1000 dollars for a single lens. Hopefully the 20 1.7 will be priced like the 25 2.8 over on the olympus side, cheap and nice.

I have too much time on my hands here looks like to be able to speculate so much on this, slow day in the office today, the day before the big lunar new year holiday....everyone is just spacing out :)

digitalintrigue

01-23-2009, 18:32

But FD's are fine.

Don't forget the older FLs, which are cheap and offer that vintage look.

raid

01-24-2009, 10:52

The 19mm 3.5 FL becomes a 38mm lens with style. It would be slow at 3.8. On the other end, a 58mm 1.2FL becomes a 116mm 1.2 super tele.

RayPA

01-24-2009, 11:35

The 19mm 3.5 FL becomes a 38mm lens with style. It would be slow at 3.8. On the other end, a 58mm 1.2FL becomes a 116mm 1.2 super tele.

keep in mind it's not a magnification it's a crop or a mask of the center of the lens. A 58mm does not become a 116 mm telephoto lens. It has the field of view of a 116 mm. It's still a 58 mm lens. The 19 mm is still a 19 mm lens with all the characteristics of the center of the lens.

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RayPA

01-24-2009, 11:51

I too fear the price of the 7-14, sticking a lens priced at say....1000 dollars on a 500 dollar "consumer" body seems a little sily.

What does the 45-200 list for? I agree. Pricing a lens too high doesn't seem to fit the pocketbook of the intended audience.

I've no interest in the 45-200, maybe the 7-14, but the 20/1.7 is attractive.

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back alley

01-24-2009, 13:41

What does the 45-200 list for? I agree. Pricing a lens too high doesn't seem to fit the pocketbook of the intended audience.

I've no interest in the 45-200, maybe the 7-14, but the 20/1.7 is attractive.

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my 45-200 was 329 u.s.
it's a pretty good lens, smallish and sharp.

the current olympus 7-14 goes for over a grand u.s.

hoping the 20/1.7 is under 500.

joe

digitalintrigue

01-24-2009, 13:43

I'm hoping the 20/1.7 will be not much more than the Olympus 25/2.8 ($217 at B&H) :)

back alley

01-24-2009, 14:35

I'm hoping the 20/1.7 will be not much more than the Olympus 25/2.8 ($217 at B&H) :)

i could live with that!!

RayPA

01-24-2009, 14:46

i could live with that!!

I think the $300 range is doable and within reason, especially if they use the same construction as the kit lens, where there doesn't appear to be an ounce of metal in it. :p

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johnastovall

01-24-2009, 16:09

The most interesting wide I've seen used on a G1 is the Angenieux 25/0.95 (http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5045).

RayPA

01-24-2009, 16:42

The most interesting wide I've seen used on a G1 is the Angenieux 25/0.95 (http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5045).

Very nice. I like the middle shot (of the woman).

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digitalintrigue

01-24-2009, 19:17

The most interesting wide I've seen used on a G1 is the Angenieux 25/0.95 (http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5045).

I want one of those. :) But it's really a normal...

wlewisiii

01-24-2009, 19:53

It doesn't cover the whole G1 sensor area??? Ah, a C mount lens. Interesting in a way, but I'd rather grab some old FD/FL glass that will cover more than enough of the area needed even with crop. I'd much rather a 24/2.8 and deal with the slower speed than the reverse but what do I know?

William

digitalintrigue

01-24-2009, 19:54

:)

3 stops slower, and oh, maybe 5% of the price

My 55/1.2 FL arrived today, but the adapter isn't here yet. The bokeh preview of the G1 (holding it up to the lens mount) indicates it's most likely an identical twin of the 50/1.2 LTM :)

nemjo

01-24-2009, 23:07

Hi you with Pen F glasses and G1,

I asked jinfinance on that and the answer is:

:-) good question, Jozsef... Yes, I'm going to make the PF to G1 adapter... but it's taking a while, probably 40~50 days...

I am waiting now...

nemjo

digitalintrigue

01-25-2009, 06:55

That is good news. :) What's 40-50 days anyway in the grand scheme of things? ;)

Avotius

01-26-2009, 05:08

FYI I have got in contact with the seller of that cheaper adapter. Their office is closed until the 1st and wont be able to ship stuff out till the second, which is no surprise as its a mandatory holiday. Anyway I hope to have this adapter within two weeks and by then I will probably have my G1 as well.

digitalintrigue

01-26-2009, 06:43

If however, a PEN F adapter becomes available, I might submit to the G1. :) Reasons:
- I wouldn't feel guilty about "wasting frame"
- imagine a good bokeh, effective 84/1.2 lens, tiny, too :) :)

Roland, you might be interested in this thread:

http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5209

pbhome

01-28-2009, 13:42

Has anyone bought one of these yet?

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I order one a couple of days ago via ebay. They are still closed for the New Year. Hopefully it will be shipped after 2/2.

I will post a follow-up when it is in.

Avotius

02-01-2009, 06:11

I just ordered one of these Chinese made adapters myself. I expect to have it in 4-5 days. I will also do a follow up on my experience but I think it will be fine because I realized I have another one of this companies adapters, a m42-EF with focus confirm and it works just fine on the 5D with my Yashica 50 f1.4 DS lens. It is a good adapter made with very good feeling materials and my gf uses it a lot for fashion shoots.

Now I just have to buy the cam! haha...should have one of those within the week too though.