g1 & zm 35/2.8

[back alley]

i managed to borrow a novoflex adapter to mount m lenses on my panasonic g1 body.

i could not decide if i should use the 21 or 50 and wound up taking the 35, how's that for compromise?

not sure if was me or the combo but there were lots of oof shots and these posted were the best of the bunch, no great art but an idea of what a 70mm 2.8 lens looks like on the g1.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3186214350_8ae2ed564d_b.jpg


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3393/3185370127_537581ea84_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3387/3186209982_bef6c02919_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3324/3186207860_da80fb4a90_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3386/3186204210_cd6028be26_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3498/3185359393_30183d006c_b.jpg

i also started a flickr group for g1/zm lens users

http://www.flickr.com/groups/957499@N20/

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I do think that the MFT cameras such as this G1 will have an additional niche market - us RF'ers...

These photos are great... The ability to use quality lenses is exiting.

I can't wait to get my hands on either this G1 or Oly's version - c'mon Olympus... show us what you can come up with.

[Tuolumne]

The OOF thing could be a big bug-a-bear. Do you think it was because you were new to the camera or is it that hard to focus adapted lenses?

/T

[back alley]

The OOF thing could be a big bug-a-bear. Do you think it was because you were new to the camera or is it that hard to focus adapted lenses?

/T

i think i was shaky and there is no ois in the body, and being new to the g1 with a manual focus lens added to it, i'm sure.

joe

[Tuolumne]

I used my G1 with kit lens at a book launch photo shoot last Thursday. I tried using manual focus a bit just for kicks and to practice until my adapter arrives. I found that for back-lit subjetcs, the subject became very dark, even with the amped-up and magnified view of the EVF. In those circumstances manual focusing was very very tough. Where the subject remains well lit, though, manual focusing is very easy. Did you find anything like that?

/T

[back alley]

my biggest problem was the finder image going from dark to very bright and back again, depending on what part of the scene i was trying to focus on.
the image with the mirror was like that as it changed dramatically because the mirror would reflect some of the overhead light. i don't think an optical rf finder would have behaved like that.

[Tuolumne]

Perhaps there needs to be a firmware update where the EVF behaves differently in manual focus mode. I don't know how to define what that difference is yet, though.

/T

[scho]

Those are nice shots Joe. Did you use the viewfinder or LCD panel? Also, did you try magnified focus assist?

Regards,
Carl

[back alley]

carl, i'm using the viewfinder and the magnified view. the problem for me with the magnified view is that i can't hold the camera steady enough to not have a shaky view when focussing.
when i was playing with the g1 and the 21/4.5 the finder was not nearly as shaky.
i may have to stick with the 45-200 so have the advantage of the ois.

joe

[Avotius]

Something I forgot to test maybe you can. On the G1 is there a setting so the finder does not automatically change the brightness, for example when I used a Sony f717 in manual it changed the brightness of the finder acording to the speed and aperture I used so when I pushed the shutter button it took the picture as I saw it in the finder. When I used the LX3 one of the things I did not like was when in manual mode it showed a bright scene when you changed the settings in manual regarless of what had it set to then showed you what it was going to take after you pushed the shutter down.

I dont recall seeing anything like this on the G1 when I was using it, anyone?

[Tuolumne]

Something I forgot to test maybe you can. On the G1 is there a setting so the finder does not automatically change the brightness, for example when I used a Sony f717 in manual it changed the brightness of the finder acording to the speed and aperture I used so when I pushed the shutter button it took the picture as I saw it in the finder. When I used the LX3 one of the things I did not like was when in manual mode it showed a bright scene when you changed the settings in manual regarless of what had it set to then showed you what it was going to take after you pushed the shutter down.

I dont recall seeing anything like this on the G1 when I was using it, anyone?

I would like to know the answer to this, too. It can be a nice feature, giving you a bionic eye, but at the same time it destroys one of the main benefits of EVF shooting: WYSIWYG exposures.

/T

[scho]

carl, i'm using the viewfinder and the magnified view. the problem for me with the magnified view is that i can't hold the camera steady enough to not have a shaky view when focussing.
when i was playing with the g1 and the 21/4.5 the finder was not nearly as shaky.
i may have to stick with the 45-200 so have the advantage of the ois.

joe

Joe, I have the same problem trying to manual focus longer lenses through the EVF with magnified focus assist. I can do better with these lenses using the LCD and shooting at waist level. I just flip out the LCD, rotate it so it is facing up, and then pull the camera down tight on the strap close to the body for support.

http://www.pbase.com/scho/image/108028059/original.jpg

Regards,
Carl

[back alley]

i'll give it a try carl, though i don't use a neck strap so it might not be as effective for me.

joe

[FrankS]

I like the Bang-On shot.
No image stabilization in the body? That would have been nice when using RF lenses via adaptor.

[dazedgonebye]

Joe, I have the same problem trying to manual focus longer lenses through the EVF with magnified focus assist. I can do better with these lenses using the LCD and shooting at waist level. I just flip out the LCD, rotate it so it is facing up, and then pull the camera down tight on the strap close to the body for support.

http://www.pbase.com/scho/image/108028059/original.jpg

Regards,
Carl

Digital TLR...sort of...functionally anyway.

[scho]

i'll give it a try carl, though i don't use a neck strap so it might not be as effective for me.

joe

You can also do it without the neckstrap, just pull the camera back into your gut for support (just don't belch when you take the shot:)) I used to shoot with a Rolleiflex TLR a lot so waist level shooting is natural for me.

Regards,
Carl

[digitalintrigue]

Using the G1 feels a bit like using a TLR, especially when flipping up the magnifier. Except left/right aren't reversed. :)

[Bingley]

Joe -- I like the results you posted, particularly the last two shots. Completely ignorant question: does this camera shoot RAW files or just jpeg? Thanks for starting the flickr group: I'm not an early adopter by any means, but this appears to be one to watch. The possibility of using this camera at waistlevel like a TLR intrigues me.

[gdi]

These shots are great !

I have nice M lens lying around somewhere I want to try, any updates on the CQ adapters?

[back alley]

steve, it does shoot raw as well as jpeg.

afaik, the cq adapters will be available at the end of january.

joe

[RayPA]

carl, i'm using the viewfinder and the magnified view. the problem for me with the magnified view is that i can't hold the camera steady enough to not have a shaky view when focussing.
when i was playing with the g1 and the 21/4.5 the finder was not nearly as shaky.
i may have to stick with the 45-200 so have the advantage of the ois.

joe

The results are very encouraging. Great samples. Is the magnified view for manual focusing an option (can it be turned off)?

[photogdave]

I like the Bang-On shot.
No image stabilization in the body? That would have been nice when using RF lenses via adaptor.
I'm betting the Olympus camera will have in-body stabilization like most of their DSLRs. I hope so anyway.

[back alley]

The results are very encouraging. Great samples. Is the magnified view for manual focusing an option (can it be turned off)?

it's an option, at least with the zm lenses, can't recall with kit lens. part of my problem is that i am so used to the split image in a rf finder that the microprism focussing is something i have to get used to.

joe

[Steve Litt]

Great shots.I really like the 3rd shot the tonality is superb its a great picture.I keep looking at this camera a possible back up for my RD-1.Maybe when I have paid for xmas and the price drops a bit.

Regards
Steve

[RayPA]

Joe, (or anyone with adapters) how do you bring up the magnified view when focusing? I assume it's a couple of button presses.


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[sebastel]

arrow left button
confirm with menu/ok button
there you go.

[scho]

arrow left button
confirm with menu/ok button
there you go.

Yes, I was hoping for a one button solution with the latest fw upgrade, but no joy.

[RayPA]

arrow left button
confirm with menu/ok button
there you go.

Thanks, Batman :p (sebastel)


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[sebastel]

what i did not mention in the first quick reply - the two button solution allows to adjust the size and the location of the screen area to be used for focusing.
and, no relation to mr. wayne. my user icon is a detail from a drawing by alfred kubin, a quite interesting austrian drawer/painter/illustrator who nowadays unfortunately is almost forgotten.