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back alley
12-24-2008, 21:26
merry christmas to me!!
what a great little camera, and i mean little. the pic comparisons don't come close to showing the real difference in size.
the g1 seems smaller than the fz20 i recently sold.
manual focus is great. you can put the area of focus almost anywhere in the scene and it automatically zooms there for really easy focussing.
i cannot wait till cq starts to deliver the m to micro adapters. my zm 25 is gonna make a hell of a normal lens.
joe
Sean has just posted his review of the Milich M adapters on his pay site. One for LTM mount, another for M mount.
It really is a great little camera! I came close to buying one for myself as a Christmas present too but going to wait another month or two for the price to come down and adapters to become more available. Congrats on your new camera!
Tuolumne
12-25-2008, 06:44
I bought one right away. I am convinced this is the digital future of the "rangefinder" camera. All these hybrids, like the M8 and R-D1, are just a bridge to getting there. Think of how the original Barnack revolutionized photography in its day. And it had to do it at a hefty price in image quality over the much larger cameras of the day. That's the trade-off price for innovation. But over time, technological improvements to the emulsion rendered that quality difference less visible. That's what we will see as technological improvements to the digital "emulsion", sensors and electronics, improve.
Welcome Barnack 2.0 -- the Panasonic Lumix G1!
/T
casualuser
12-25-2008, 07:01
Colin,
Have you posted any pics lately? What kinds of things are you working on? I know everyone would to see your latest.
Regards
John
digitalintrigue
12-25-2008, 07:08
Hey look, a micro 4/3 forum. :)
Fred Burton
12-25-2008, 07:12
TTL EVIL's should not be allowed here. The purity of the RFF forum is threatened once again. ;)
back alley
12-26-2008, 10:00
a few quick snaps from the g1/kit lens ...
shot at iso 800, handheld
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/3136170946_314b03c575_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3135341687_635be57be3_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3096/3136164512_c26d901b47_b.jpg
Zenjitsuman
12-26-2008, 10:43
Back Alley I can't wait for you to tell us how you like the images with your 25mm zm Biogon on the G1. I have one too.
What if anything are you going to use for your replacement wide angle on the micro 4/3 format? That would take a 12mm lens.
back alley
12-26-2008, 10:46
my widest lens right now is the 21/45.
not sure about really wide, though there is a wide zoom in the works from panasonic.
photogdave
12-26-2008, 10:49
Joe's pictures show very well what I've seen and heard. The kit lens is already very good (as all 4/3 lenses have already been). I'll bet many people buying these cameras to use as platforms for their M lenses will probably be just as happy with the Panny/Oly lenses!
back alley
12-26-2008, 10:52
not many kit lenses have asph elements in them.
i was impressed that these were at 800 iso as i rarely shoot over 200.
capitalK
12-26-2008, 11:12
A 24mm Summilux would make an awesome normal lens as well, and a bargain at $6000 :D
sevres_babylone
12-26-2008, 12:07
Joe, how does it compare in size to an Olympus OM body? I'm not familiar with the fz20 that you mention.
back alley
12-26-2008, 12:11
going from memory, i think the g1 is smaller and it has the built in grip which i like.
joe
back alley
12-26-2008, 12:21
regarding size, the photo comparisons don't do the size difference justice.
when i took the g1 out of the box and held it, and put the small 14-45 lens on it, only then did i realize just how petite the combo really was.
this is gonna be a great street outfit when combined with the 21/25 zm lenses. and a very nice portrait kit with the 50 sonnar.
joe
JeffGreene
12-26-2008, 14:56
regarding size, the photo comparisons don't do the size difference justice.
when i took the g1 out of the box and held it, and put the small 14-45 lens on it, only then did i realize just how petite the combo really was.
this is gonna be a great street outfit when combined with the 21/25 zm lenses. and a very nice portrait kit with the 50 sonnar.
joe
Joe:
Wow! It's hard to believe it's a kit lens. I understand manual focus on this camera is easy and results crystal clear. Images on the Getdpi forum confirm this. I'm going to try to wait for the new Oly MFT, but if you keep posting like this I may weaken! Yeesh! :bang:
back alley
12-26-2008, 15:01
i may get the oly as well if it is 'better' or more 'rf like' than the panasonic, but who knows what or when that might happen.
right now, i'm worried my sony may never get used again...
a few quick snaps from the g1/kit lens ...
shot at iso 800, handheld
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/3136170946_314b03c575_b.jpg
Humm, typical "plastic" skin tones. Sensor by Canon? :D
Wow, nice stuff. I am just catching up here on what has been going on.
I read the Pop review that said noise at high ISOs on the G1 were not that good. So much for Pop's reviews, those are not that bad at all.
A very interesting little camera.
OK, I have to ask.......
Did you get a red one or blue?:D:D:D:angel:
(we should have a devil smiley option)
back alley
12-27-2008, 11:26
i got a black one!
i would have wanted a red one if the lenses were red too.
the black lenses look funny on the red or blue bodies...imho, that is.
rover, this is the camera to get. the lens is sharp, manual focus is so nice for these tired old eyes, it's small and i will soon be able to mate my zm lenses to it.
i hope the oly will be be even better but i am not waiting to find out.
JeffGreene
12-27-2008, 12:22
i hope the oly will be be even better but i am not waiting to find out.
Joe:
Please post some of the ZM shots when you get a chance. I'm going to wait for Oly myself. Two kids in college helps to support my balanced perspective. ;)
I hope that the new Oly has a viewfinder as well as no slr hump. I stopped by a nearby chain retail shop selling the G1 for $799. I did get to handle one. They are definitely small and petite. Very rf-like. Being able to use my M glass is very appealing. If the new Oly provides the same manual focusing capability as the G-1 it'll be no-brainer. The low light image on the Getdpi forum are very convincing.
Respectfully,
Jeff
dazedgonebye
12-27-2008, 13:31
Wow, nice stuff. I am just catching up here on what has been going on.
I read the Pop review that said noise at high ISOs on the G1 were not that good. So much for Pop's reviews, those are not that bad at all.
A very interesting little camera.
I think they tend to compare against the very best available sensors...no way a G1 can compare to a FF sensor or even the best crop sensors from Nikon or Canon.
That doesn't mean it can't be considered very good and plenty adequate.
I haven't seen much at 1600 iso in low light. Any chance of posting something like that?
I think they tend to compare against the very best available sensors...no way a G1 can compare to a FF sensor or even the best crop sensors from Nikon or Canon.
That doesn't mean it can't be considered very good and plenty adequate.
I haven't seen much at 1600 iso in low light. Any chance of posting something like that?
I am not that attuned to all PP methods, but the links you provided did show the noise of the G1, but also one poster stated that the camera/processor, whichever, also underexposed at high ISOs. Any underexposure is going to cause increased noise. You can improve that by being smart and setting exposure compensation and to use a NR filter. I would also think a firmware upgrade can address that too, so a software fix.
The G1 results did fall off dramatically compared to other 4/3 cameras, so that is why I think whatever is causing the test result can be addressed, the sensor is capable. Pop's tests are good, but you have to read into them to understand the findings some times.
rover, this is the camera to get. the lens is sharp, manual focus is so nice for these tired old eyes, it's small and i will soon be able to mate my zm lenses to it.
There is a Minolta MD/MC adaptor!!!! I have lots of those lenses.
back alley
12-27-2008, 16:09
i am now thinking about all those oly lenses i got rid of, and the fd lenses and the nikon lenses...
jeff, it will be more than a month before i have the adapter to use with the m lenses but i will be posting shots as soon as i am able.
joe
My head is hurting but I keep thinking. I read Stephen's 4/3 adaptor page at Cameraquest. Regarding the Minolta adaptor some lenses need to be modified, but with M43 the adaptor would be (I hope they make an M43 MD adaptor) would be thicker, so no modification probably. Then, you get a 200/2.8 for less than $200...and you have a 400/2.8, wow. How inexpensive is that compared to any other system?
back alley
12-27-2008, 16:42
a few more from this afternoon...these were at 200 iso
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3142935384_882295755f_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/3142933754_d0f93eec0b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/3142932408_77f5c4eeb0_b.jpg
Do you shoot in RAW? Any issues with your RAW converter recognizing the Pani RAW format?
Zenjitsuman
12-27-2008, 16:56
How do you like the HD lcd vf, do you think indoors its as good as the normal rangefinder vf? Do you think it can replace slr optical vf now used universally, if not what must be improved to get to the point where we can get rid of mirrors and prisms.
back alley
12-27-2008, 17:09
i am shooting jpegs now as my ps elements 6 won't open the g1 raw files.
i could use the included software but have not loaded it yet.
z'man, the finder view does take some getting used to but it's hasn't been all that difficult. the finder increases the 'gain' when in a dark place, that is, it's gets brighter (but noisier) and focussing is very easy. as far as mirrors and prisms, they arealready gone with the camera and i have not missed them yet.
joe
a few more from this afternoon...these were at 200 iso
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3142935384_882295755f_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/3142933754_d0f93eec0b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3075/3142932408_77f5c4eeb0_b.jpg
These look great - I need to sell some stuff tomorrow...
Jamie Pillers
12-27-2008, 18:35
So how does that sensor compare to a full-frame piece of film? :D
back alley
12-27-2008, 19:15
i have no idea jamie.
i'm the first to admit that i like gear but i am not really into the details of it all.
if it can make an image i like and it's fun to play with that's good enough for me.
i also don't get hung up on size:)
remember when 35 mm still photography was invented it was called the miniature format and thought to be like a toy and today IT is the standard that many use as a reference.
joe
Congrats Joe. I have been using a G1 with kit lens for a few weeks. Here is my Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/khamilton/sets/72157611590488773/
and one example inline:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/3135871387_4624b6e968_o.jpg
John Milich is now shipping his micro 4/3 to LTM adapter (reviewed over at Sean Reid's site). This is getting interesting...
Cheers, and best wishes for the new year,
Kirk
back alley
12-29-2008, 13:37
more pics ...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/3148907002_0a3dc1e539_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/3148079345_f73c28a378_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/3148895674_b0f13aebaa_b.jpg
a couple more on my flickr ...
joe
Nice to be in the club. :) Here's one where a couple of Pannies combine for a shot.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3201155510_20921801aa.jpg?v=0
This (G1) is a very interesting camera. The kit lens is nice. The EVF is pretty amazing. Nice ergos. Looking forward to the 20/1.7 and the adapter.
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Austerby
01-15-2009, 23:27
Whilst popping out for a sandwich at lunch yesterday I went into the local camera shop and had a hold of the G1. Must admit to being underwhelmed - I certainly think the M adaptor is key and does make it interesting, but the camera itself was just another modern digital camera to me. The viewfinder was good and the size handy but it didn't immediately say "buy me" when I picked it up. When the time comes that I want to replace my (perfectly adequate) D70 then I'll certainly be looking at what is available in this mount.
Nice to be in the club. :) Here's one where a couple of Pannies combine for a shot.
This (G1) is a very interesting camera. The kit lens is nice. The EVF is pretty amazing. Nice ergos. Looking forward to the 20/1.7 and the adapter.
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You jumped!!! Congratulations. My birthday is around PMA time so for now I have not.
Whilst popping out for a sandwich at lunch yesterday I went into the local camera shop and had a hold of the G1. Must admit to being underwhelmed - I certainly think the M adaptor is key and does make it interesting, but the camera itself was just another modern digital camera to me.
That's exactly how I felt Austerby. I had my hands on one and very nearly took the plunge; however, something stopped me: namely, the styling of the damn thing, which sounds ridiculous, but don't we make a lot of purchases are how we feel about design? I'm waiting to see what happens with the Olympus 4/3 or I might look at the Sigma DP2 when it arrives (Not interchangeable).
I'm probably like a lot of people here that wants rangefinder styling with the ability to take LTM or LM lenses. It does seem that no one wants to engage fully with that concept other than Leica themselves.
In a nutshell - I NEED a cheaper smaller interchangeable lens camera to chuck in my bag - one that if it goes down I won't cry at the cost of replacement. Yes the G1 would meet that need but the designers have failed to turn that need into the 'I WANT IT NOW' feeling that one gets from time to time.
:eek:
Ronald_H
01-16-2009, 01:02
Whilst popping out for a sandwich at lunch yesterday I went into the local camera shop and had a hold of the G1. Must admit to being underwhelmed - I certainly think the M adaptor is key and does make it interesting, but the camera itself was just another modern digital camera to me. The viewfinder was good and the size handy but it didn't immediately say "buy me" when I picked it up. When the time comes that I want to replace my (perfectly adequate) D70 then I'll certainly be looking at what is available in this mount.
Really? I did the same a few weeks ago. I admit I don't think much of the faux SLR styling but it has its advantages. It's very inconspicious. It looks like an older compact, or a recent SLR look-a-like. Add a blue or red color and no one will take it seriously. But it IS basically a very decent digital camera, on par with good entry level SLRs. Which means it is very good. A good photographer will be able to do amazing things with it.
Amazing is also the word for the manual focus implementation. I hear people complain about it, but frankly I suspect that they are not yet mentally prepared to admit it is actually better than any other camera, ever. Surely nothing can be better than an M Leica, especially not this toy-like soccermom digital camera with a Panasonic nameplate on it? I very much admire the thought that has gone into it, on so many levels. Maybe you would have done it differently, but they did think long and hard. It feels very sorted.
All those adapaters are also a big plus, but the crop factor is limiting for some kinds of photography. But people who like to use fast, longer lenses will be deliriously happy with it.
To me it screams 'buy me' louder than anything since, well ever. Yet I resist. The promise of HD video added to this package keep me from buying. If they implement it as well as the rest of the camera it will be so fantastic. HD video shot with Leica primes? FANTASTIC!
Btw, I owned a D70 and it will be adequate for the rest of your life, only people will laugh at your paltry 6Mp...
Austerby
01-16-2009, 02:12
Btw, I owned a D70 and it will be adequate for the rest of your life, only people will laugh at your paltry 6Mp...
:D
I know. Having an out-dated digital camera is much more radical these days than using a film camera.
BTW I don't doubt that the G1 is a fine camera, it's just that it doesn't meet any of my current needs. I very much look forward to the shots that others produce with it and I do recognise it as being the most interesting and significant development in digital cameras in recent times.
I don't doubt at some point I will have a micro 4/3 digital with M-adaptor but not yet and not this model.
Really? I did the same a few weeks ago. I admit I don't think much of the faux SLR styling but it has its advantages. It's very inconspicious. It looks like an older compact, or a recent SLR look-a-like. Add a blue or red color and no one will take it seriously. But it IS basically a very decent digital camera, on par with good entry level SLRs. Which means it is very good. A good photographer will be able to do amazing things with it.
Amazing is also the word for the manual focus implementation. I hear people complain about it, but frankly I suspect that they are not yet mentally prepared to admit it is actually better than any other camera, ever. Surely nothing can be better than an M Leica, especially not this toy-like soccermom digital camera with a Panasonic nameplate on it? I very much admire the thought that has gone into it, on so many levels. Maybe you would have done it differently, but they did think long and hard. It feels very sorted.
All those adapaters are also a big plus, but the crop factor is limiting for some kinds of photography. But people who like to use fast, longer lenses will be deliriously happy with it.
To me it screams 'buy me' louder than anything since, well ever. Yet I resist. The promise of HD video added to this package keep me from buying. If they implement it as well as the rest of the camera it will be so fantastic. HD video shot with Leica primes? FANTASTIC!
Btw, I owned a D70 and it will be adequate for the rest of your life, only people will laugh at your paltry 6Mp...
Sounds like the greatest thing you never bought ! :rolleyes:
I am reserving final judgement on manual focusing in very low light until I get an adapter. But I can assure you the perception that focusing an M8 at F5.6 in the dark is a lot easier than the G1 is not a result of my lack of mental preparation. :)
HD video shot with Leica primes? FANTASTIC!
Oh my God - my Noctilux - what would that look like.
I too am concerned with the manual focus; more specifically, how easy/quick is it to operate with a leica lens. I suppose I could be tempted, but it's issues like this I have to sort out in my head. My camera shop has the G1 but no adapters. I would probably just have to take the plunge and if I was dissapointed then so be it.
The Olympus prototype looks good, but again it looks like there will be no EVF. If that is the case I won't buy that either; okay you can probably obtain external VF but how accurate will it be.
But not to worry - I'll have to make do with the M8 and Noctilux for now.
:p:p:p:dance:
Ronald_H
01-16-2009, 03:54
But not to worry - I'll have to make do with the M8 and Noctilux for now.
:p:p:p:dance:
I feel your pain... :p But you do realize that a single scratch on the barrel of that Nocti will cost you more in resale value than a G1 + lenses, do you?
The G1 is dead impressive... to me. YMMV of course. The M8 is creeping into 'affordable' territory for me (everything is relative), but for that amount of money I'd rather buy a Nikon D300 + G1 or a Nikon D700.
All of this of course doesn't substract one bit of the sheer joy I feel when burning Tri-X in my M2...
Dralowid
01-16-2009, 04:19
I've had a look at the camera with kit lens. I'm half way there. To help me with my indecision I have resolved to get an M or maybe an R adaptor first, try the thing out in my friendly store and then decide. If it all goes wrong the adaptor goes to 'That Auction Site'. Nearly there....
Michael
You jumped!!! Congratulations. My birthday is around PMA time so for now I have not.
Thanks!
@Austerby: I think that's what makes the camera so interesting. It is underwhelming at first (my first thoughts too). It has a stripped down feeling to it without a lot of "heft," certainly not on par with an M body or pro gear at all. Of course, the proof is in putting the thing to use, which I haven't really done—beyond walking around the house taking snaps and page-turning through the manual. However, Panasonic seems to have done it right. The features that matter, the lens, the evf, the ergos, are very nice. There is something special/different about this camera.
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back alley
01-16-2009, 06:57
i find the camera addictive. it's all i have been using since i got it.
I feel your pain... :p But you do realize that a single scratch on the barrel of that Nocti will cost you more in resale value than a G1 + lenses, do you?
LOL. Yes, but you only live once and I try to be careful with it - I take it that on th G1 it would be a 100mm f1 - I bet that takes some focusing.:rolleyes::rolleyes:;)
Tuolumne
01-16-2009, 07:07
i find the camera addictive. it's all i have been using since i got it.
I was too embarrassed to admit it, but so long as you went first...me, too. Actually I have been shooting my M4-P but every time I see the results I think, "That would have been better with the G1."
/T
digitalintrigue
01-16-2009, 07:09
:) The G1 is indeed fun. You know it's getting addictive when you have been using a 50mm lens on it, and then go to another camera with a 50mm, and say 'wow, that's a pretty wide angle!'
Joe - Congrats!!! I am seriously thinking of getting one for 3 reasons:
Complement my current gear
point and shoot with the kit lens
Be able to use my M-mount lenses on it - the prospect of using my CV 35/1.2 on it as a low light portrait lens is making me salivate
However, it that third bullet item that is giving me pause. Anecdotally, I have heard that in low light, manual focusing gets a little tricky, especially when swinging from relative darkness (e.g., a typical street scene at dusk) to a light source (e.g., a street lamp). I have also heard that you pretty much have to open up your lens to its max aperture for easy focus, and that trying to focus when stopped down, such as f5.6 or less, gets a little dicey. Again, these are all Internet anecdotes (so they must be true :D)
So, until are more G1 owners and the m4/3 to M adapters are more widely used, especially with fast lenses in low light, I may try to control my GAS.
Tuolumne
01-16-2009, 07:15
:) The G1 is indeed fun. You know it's getting addictive when you have been using a 50mm lens on it, and then go to another camera with a 50mm, and say 'wow, that's a pretty wide angle!'
That's funny! :D
/T
digitalintrigue
01-16-2009, 07:24
However, it that third bullet item that is giving me pause. Anecdotally, I have heard that in low light, manual focusing gets a little tricky, especially when swinging from relative darkness (e.g., a typical street scene at dusk) to a light source (e.g., a street lamp). I have also heard that you pretty much have to open up your lens to its max aperture for easy focus, and that trying to focus when stopped down, such as f5.6 or less, gets a little dicey. Again, these are all Internet anecdotes (so they must be true :D)
The EVF will adjust pretty quickly from a dark scene, to a bright scene. It's not instantaneous though.
Not necessary to open up to max aperture to focus, except in VERY dim light, dim enough that handholding isn't even possible (without flash.)
Focusing stopped down is easy if the ambient light is sufficient. If not, open up the aperture. :)
George S.
01-16-2009, 09:52
I've been interested but there's a few concerns holding me back.
1. I want to see the Olympus first
2. Joe, it may be me, but your shots look a bit underexposed. And I like vibrant color, (not cartoonishly vibrant) which I don't see.
3. Not sure how I'll like not going w i d e. I have the ZM 25 also.
4. Joe, your lenses posted in your signature are all 50mm and wider. Let's see how you feel about the crop factor in 3 months.
5. My Olympus E-410 is also quite small with the 25mm pancake lens on it, and I have a real VF and a largish LCD screen. And the 410 gives me a lot of creative control already. And the kit lens is 14mm (28 in the real world, not too bad)
It would be a huge plus for me to be able to use Leica lenses on one, but the crop factor is a sticking point for me. (You could have guessed that already, huh?)
I can already use some very fine Olympus OM lenses on the -410.
Arrrgh! I thought I was getting this GAS under control....
back alley
01-16-2009, 11:24
I've been interested but there's a few concerns holding me back.
1. I want to see the Olympus first
2. Joe, it may be me, but your shots look a bit underexposed. And I like vibrant color, (not cartoonishly vibrant) which I don't see.
3. Not sure how I'll like not going w i d e. I have the ZM 25 also.
4. Joe, your lenses posted in your signature are all 50mm and wider. Let's see how you feel about the crop factor in 3 months.
5. My Olympus E-410 is also quite small with the 25mm pancake lens on it, and I have a real VF and a largish LCD screen. And the 410 gives me a lot of creative control already. And the kit lens is 14mm (28 in the real world, not too bad)
It would be a huge plus for me to be able to use Leica lenses on one, but the crop factor is a sticking point for me. (You could have guessed that already, huh?)
I can already use some very fine Olympus OM lenses on the -410.
Arrrgh! I thought I was getting this GAS under control....
i also want to see what oly comes out with and i hope they do something soon.
i like that darker look as oppossed to more greys in a scene. i don't think the g1 shots are very much different than my film shots.
i am worried about wide and hope that panasonic comes out with something to fill that need.
i am very much looking forward to the 20/1.7 that is in the works. it could be my next street lens.
as for wides, i do have the 21 zm lens and 2 film cameras and i have a 12-24 sigma for the sony a300 so i can still meet that need head on for now.
as i've said before, the ability to use my zm lenses on the g1 is a treat and a bonus.
the g1 kit lens is 14-45 (28-90) and is sharp, small and focusses silently so i am quite happy with it as street lens. and the small 45-200 (90-400) is very easy to use and reasonably sharp.
for now i am a happy camper.
as for wides, i do have the 21 zm lens and 2 film cameras and i have a 12-24 sigma for the sony a300 so i can still meet that need head on for now.
as i've said before, the ability to use my zm lenses on the g1 is a treat and a bonus.
the g1 kit lens is 14-45 (28-90) and is sharp, small and focusses silently so i am quite happy with it as street lens. and the small 45-200 (90-400) is very easy to use and reasonably sharp.
for now i am a happy camper.
Don't you think the 7-14 f/4 will handle the wide end if its good? I have the 12-24 (and several other WA zooms) for my 5D so I'm covered for now also. I'm looking forward more to the 20 f/1.7--hope its soon, but I, too, am a happy camper.
Diane
back alley
01-16-2009, 15:39
i prefer something a bit wider than 28. the 25 was fine till i got the 21.
joe
digitalintrigue
01-16-2009, 15:53
I'm hoping the 7-14 is a stunner. It's going to be so small...my kit would be 7-14, 20/1.7, and a variety of adapted primes. The kit lens is excellent but too slow for me.
back alley
01-16-2009, 16:36
i assume the 7-14 will be expensive...
i don't mind the speed of the kit lens but i am looking forward to the 20/1.7.
back alley
01-18-2009, 15:37
2 with the kit 14-45
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3319/3207441381_1406ae4892_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3208286410_093791d28c_b.jpg
and one with the zm 21
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3208281074_ab3f9d35c2_b.jpg
2 with the kit 14-45
joe, are you converting the b&w in post or are you using the in camera b&w?
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I've not tested or shot as extensively as Joe, but here's one that I thought would make a good test shot:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3208579896_78b4102e86_o.jpg
100% crop of original at the place of focus. \/ Oops, purple fringing.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3207732505_288cf94421_o.jpg
Looking forward to the DPreview in-depth review of the camera.
EDIT:
high JPEG
ISO 400
f 3.5
1/50 s
14mm
standard film mode
back alley
01-18-2009, 18:09
joe, are you converting the b&w in post or are you using the in camera b&w?
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i'm converting in elements 6.
Is that with the kit lens? How is the distortion at full wide (14/28) vs primes, or 14/28 of other digicams (if you have any that go that wide?)?
Very tempting!!
I've not tested or shot as extensively as Joe, but here's one that I thought would make a good test shot:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/3208579896_78b4102e86_o.jpg
100% crop of original at the place of focus. \/ Oops, purple fringing.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/3207732505_288cf94421_o.jpg
Looking forward to the DPreview in-depth review of the camera.
EDIT:
high JPEG
ISO 400
f 3.5
1/50 s
14mm
standard film mode
Tuolumne
01-18-2009, 20:29
Is the Panasonic 45-200mm m4/3rds lens available now? I haven't seen it anywhere.
/T
digitalintrigue
01-18-2009, 20:38
It's been out for a few weeks but tough to get. I can refer a good source who has them in stock.
back alley
01-18-2009, 20:42
Is the Panasonic 45-200mm m4/3rds lens available now? I haven't seen it anywhere.
/T
check my flickr for a few shots from the 45-200.
joe
Tuolumne
01-18-2009, 21:04
check my flickr for a few shots from the 45-200.
joe
Where did you get it?
/T
Is that with the kit lens? How is the distortion at full wide (14/28) vs primes, or 14/28 of other digicams (if you have any that go that wide?)?
Very tempting!!
Yes. It is the kit lens. This is at the full wide. Don't know about the comparison, yet.
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I generally buy online but discovered that Wolf's (Ritz) main store in Charlotte, NC had them on the shelf when I went there to handle the G1 initially (I bought it from Prodigital/Ebay). I did go back to Wolf to buy it since I didn't find it at any better price online--and they had been really nice about me trying the camera in the store. They also have it online and I was told that here in Charlotte, the stores that do not stock it can order it. It seems that only the larger 'main' stores actually stock it. Others in other forums say they found it and the G1 in various camera stores in different parts of the country. I just googled for it and then tried all the online stores that had brick and mortar stores to see if they had it available.
Diane
back alley
01-19-2009, 05:02
Where did you get it?
/T
prodigital 2000, on ebay.
Cool, I hope you can bring it to the next get together in a week or so? I'll bring an SD card so I can look at images later. I'm really only interested in JPGs right now, not that RAW nonsense stuff :D
Yes. It is the kit lens. This is at the full wide. Don't know about the comparison, yet.
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