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back alley
05-12-2005, 07:24
JUNE 28, 2005 TUESDAY MORNING
11:00 A.M.
GRAND CENTRAL STATION - UNDER THE CLOCK
BE THERE IF YOU CAN!
ok, back to non caps, whew!
yeah, if you can make it, there will be a meet and greet in new york city on june 28th.
no set plans, but i'm hoping for lunch together and maybe a walkabout.
take some pics (of each other) and hit a camera store or 2, 'just looking thank you!' :)
so far, connecticut is on board.
toronto really isn't THAT far away and of course, the locals are more than welcomed to join. (we need guides, eh;))
if you can make it, maybe sign on here so we have an idea as to the size of the group.
if you have a pic of yourself, post it here too so i can recognize you all.
i'll be the round bald guy with the camera in his hand and the silly grin on his face!!
joe
Cool! I'll be there. I guess my avatar is as good a pic of me as I have right now. Look for the guy with the John Deere hat and a backpack.
Just looking? I need a camera bag and I find those impossible to mail order so if I haven't found one by then, I'll be buying(if I can find one I like).
Rob
I'll be there - in spirit. I'm working.
Terence T
05-12-2005, 07:40
i'll be the round bald guy with the camera in his hand and the silly grin on his face!!
joe
You just described half the summer tourists in NYC :D
I might be in NY for a biz trip then, will pop by if my dates coincide.
I'll try to see if I can get out of work that day.
Cheers.
back alley
05-12-2005, 08:01
frank & keith, call in sick...;)
joe
SolaresLarrave
05-12-2005, 08:04
How about meeting in DC in December?
Oops... no good camera stores in the area...
I'll be there... like Frank! :p
back alley
05-12-2005, 08:11
francisco,
i fly with a stop-over in chicago. are you close to the airport? we could have a coffee...
joe
Hey, there is a picture of the clock on the bottom of the first page here if you are not familiar with GCS.
http://www.nyctourist.com/grandcentral1.htm
I am really looking forward to greeting Joe on his return back east.
Once we get a list of those attending we should share some cell phone numbers, just in case. And if anyone perhaps can't make it at 11 with a phone number you can track us down in our travels.
I think we need a recommendation for a nice place to get a comfortable friendly lunch.
We will keep bumping this as the date gets closer.
frank & keith, call in sick...;)
joe
That is a viable option! I'm getting married in September (!) and we are moving, hopefully, into our new place in June. I'll be needing alot of my time off for this, but I will certainly try. It would be great to meet some members of this forum.
back alley
05-12-2005, 08:41
sounds good to me.
if there is a good kosher deli handy that would be my first choice for food.
i miss real pastrami and a dr. brown's cream soda...oh yeah!
joe
back alley
05-12-2005, 08:42
That is a viable option! I'm getting married in September (!) and we are moving, hopefully, into our new place in June. I'll be needing all of my time off for this, but I will certainly try. It would be great to meet some members of this forum.
even for lunch would be cool.
joe
SolaresLarrave
05-12-2005, 08:48
joe... let me know. I'll be returning from Costa Rica on Saturday, June 25, but I sure can swing to the airport. It's about one hour away from here.
And, of course, you'll see the nice little soft release being put to good use on a handsome M3!! :)
Again... how about DC later?
Just kidding!
back alley
05-12-2005, 08:57
i would love to shake your hand francisco.
an hour is a lot of time to travel considering it would be for a coffee only.
i have some flight info to clear up as the tickets and the updated info emailed to me is different.
i either have an hour and a bit or 2.5 hours layover. i understand an hour will barely be enough time to get from one end to the other for flight changes but 2.5 hours should be ok i would think.
joe
bmattock
05-12-2005, 09:16
Hmmm. Amtrak says:
Departing: Wilson, NC (WLN) To New York - Penn Station, NY (NYP)
80 Carolinian Wilson, NC (WLN) 12:22 pm 27-JUN-05 New York, NY Penn Station (NYP) 8:58 pm 27-JUN-05 8h 36m
Returning: New York - Penn Station, NY (NYP) To Wilson, NC (WLN)
79 Carolinian New York, NY Penn Station (NYP) 7:15 am 29-JUN-05 Wilson, NC (WLN) 3:28 pm 29-JUN-05 8h 13m
$156.60 AAA price.
Now, I just need a place to stay...and permission from Ann-Marie...
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
back alley
05-12-2005, 09:45
do it!
do it!
joe
cathy_w_J
05-12-2005, 11:42
it sounds fun. i am in need of some culture. ct is very boring sometimes. does one have to have a camera to tag along? in other words, can i bring my kid and/or hubby with me? hubby hates the city so that might not happen, but who knows.
Cathy, you are more than welcome to join us, no matter what or who you tote along. I can't say that hanging out with us will qualify as culture though, no matter where we are.
SolaresLarrave
05-12-2005, 12:11
Photographic culture does exist, Ralph... and we're IT.
Or at least fairly good representatives of it.
sounds good to me.
if there is a good kosher deli handy that would be my first choice for food.
i miss real pastrami and a dr. brown's cream soda...oh yeah!
joe
I think you mean a Dr. Browns celery soda, known as celery tonic to my generation. The cream is good too.
The place to go is Katz's on Delancey St. Most kosher delis dissappeared with the cholesterol scare. Add a portion of stuffed derma (kishka) to the pastrami sandwich and you might have to return to Canada in a box. You would deffinitely be in heaven, however. :angel:
Expect to see you on June 28.
Kurt M.
P.S. you can recognize me by my avatar. It was taken in 1961, but I look in the mirror every day and have noticed no changes.
sounds good to me.
if there is a good kosher deli handy that would be my first choice for food.
i miss real pastrami and a dr. brown's cream soda...oh yeah!
joe
I think you mean a Dr. Browns celery soda, known as celery tonic to my generation. The cream is good too.
The place to go is Katz's on Delancey St. Most kosher delis dissappeared with the cholesterol scare. Add a portion of stuffed derma (kishka) to the pastrami sandwich and you might have to return to Canada in a box. You would definitely be in heaven, however. :angel:
Expect to see you on June 28.
Kurt M.
P.S. you can recognize me by my avatar. It was taken in 1961, but I look in the mirror every day and have noticed no changes.
Would love to attend, but this week-end I'll be rubbing elbows with the cognocenti (sp?) of Argus collecting.
back alley
05-12-2005, 13:52
cathy, you realize if you bring your kid, he/she (?) will automatically become one of our models, ;)
and i meant cream soda, celery soda sounds awful!
kosher deli disappearance?! say it ain't so...my friends have kept it a secret mayb thinking i would never return home for a visit again.
joe
bmattock
05-12-2005, 14:53
J.Ed, I think we're talking June here. Just FYI!
Joe - I just spoke with She Who Must Be Adored - you know she's from NYC herself. If we can arrange the finances, we'll arrive together and split up; me with you guys and she with her family. If there's going to be some kind of dinner later, she'd be up for that.
Anyway, we'll try to put it together.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
SolaresLarrave
05-12-2005, 15:04
Bill... I really like that turn of phrase from "SWMB Obeyed" to SWMB Adored." Why didn't I think of it first? Hmmmm... :(
back alley
05-12-2005, 15:17
that's great news bill!
another hand i've wanted to shake.
joe
cathy, you realize if you bring your kid, he/she (?) will automatically become one of our models, ;)
and i meant cream soda, celery soda sounds awful!
kosher deli disappearance?! say it ain't so...my friends have kept it a secret mayb thinking i would never return home for a visit again.
joe
Sadly, its true. After my last post a friend of my wife who is a maven (expert) recommended the 10th St. Deli on 10th and 2nd Ave. also a bit out of the way, but according to her very good; believe me most of them are gone, even Pastrami King across from the county offices and courts in Queens which had excellent pastrami (they made it themselves) and an ideal location. I always tried to pull jury duty there because of them, but they have been gone for about ten years.
Celery soda may sound awful but it is actually very good and goes great with pastrami because it is not as sweet as other sodas. It doesn't taste like a stalk of celery, believe me.
Kurt M.
P.S. How are you feeling?
Would love to attend, but this week-end I'll be rubbing elbows with the cognocenti (sp?) of Argus collecting.
Sorry, this is what happens when you have too many windows open and you reply to the wrong thing in the wrong place.
shaaktiman
05-12-2005, 22:00
I may try and make it. I don't work too far from there.
Just curious... besides deli is there anything else that you guys are interested in seeing (or shooting.) If the weather is nice, I recommend a walk over the brooklyn bridge.
adam
Adam, I think the agenda is open. In my mind, I think this is less of a see the sights trip and more of a getting to see you thing, and have fun taking some pictures.
cathy_w_J
05-13-2005, 02:51
cathy, you realize if you bring your kid, he/she (?) will automatically become one of our models,
that's fine. he is my biggest subject these days and really is a big ham when he gets warmed up. his name is ian and he is 2 and has a wide range of moods so there is some thing for everyone to shoot from the playful imp to the ugly temper tantrum. (that's why i want to bring his dad...it will help with the ugly.)
is a museum on the agenda?
Huck Finn
05-13-2005, 04:29
I'll settle for a good Coney Island knish at that deli. Too bad you can't get them deep fried any more. That also went out with greater awareness of cholesterol problems. See you there!
Cheers,
Huck
SolaresLarrave
05-13-2005, 05:31
Coney Island... the birthplace of hotdogs!
There was a PBS special on American foods about a year ago, and two of the best places for hotdogs were on Coney Island.
There's a reputed hotdog stand in Chicago too...
And think of the B&W images you can capture there!
My cardiologist can't learn about this get together, all you guys promise not to tell.
back alley
05-13-2005, 08:00
rover is right on as far as an agenda. i grew up in n.y. so the sights are not high on my list.
priority #1 is meeting you guys & gals and then #2 is eating food that i grew up with.
as a matter of fact, if it wasn't for you folks i would stay out of manhatten all together and just relax on the island and visit with by friends.
i'm ok with doing stuff also but i'm also ok with an open agenda.
joe
back alley
05-23-2005, 17:31
a bit of a bump...
list so far...in order of appearance
joe
rover
rob
kbg - kent? keith?
bill m
cathy & son
kurt
adam
huck
anymore thinking of coming?
joe
Lets hope there are more. Count me in for 6/28. Joe, do you remember Junior's in downtown Brooklyn? Excellent pastrami, plenty of variety for those who would like something else, NYC atmosphere, easy to get to and not far from the Brooklyn Bridge. As I own it since buying it from a very nice guy for a good price last year, all RFF members have my permission to walk across it. Come one come all. Lets hope the weather is good.
Kurt M.
back alley
05-23-2005, 19:35
kurt owns a deli?
if i was so inclined i'd offer to marry to you (or at least date) but maybe just pals for now!
i'm embarassed to say that, even though i was born in luthren hospital in brooklyn, i never spent much time there. and now, well after moving 30 years ago, i will be as much a tourist in my home town as others not born there.
i never did and still don't have much of a sense of direction, i get turned around so easy it's funny.
none the less, perhaps a cab ride to brooklyn might be in order.
joe
No, unfortunately, I don't own a deli. I was referring to my purchase of the Brooklyn Bridge but apparently I dangled a participle.
The subway will get us to downtown Brooklyn faster and cheaper if that is where we choose to go.
BTW, Lutheran Hospital is still there and fuctioning. Many of the smaller hospitals are long since gone, but Lutheran is mainstay serving the Sunset Park neighborhood and surrounding area.
Kurt M.
back alley
05-23-2005, 20:12
i guess i should be happy to know a guy who owns a bridge ;) but the deli was way more fun to think about!!
i wondered if the hospital was still there.
the most time i spent in brooklyn was in university. i was dating a girl whose dad had lots of money. thay had a very nice shack in sheepshead bay.
at the time i had no car and public transportation in & out of there was poor so i wound up spending quite a few nights in the 'guest room'
ah, the old days, when i had hair and a love life...ha!
joe
kurt owns a deli?
joe
You have been away for too too long.
back alley
05-24-2005, 04:58
You have been away for too too long.
kinda sad, really...
joe
Though, the deli sounds great!!!
The Lee Friedlander exhibit at the MoMA may be a good idea.
http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2005/friedlander.html
I can do the newly renovated MoMA.
back alley
05-26-2005, 16:41
ooh, sounds good.
as long as we hit a deli first!:)
and i guess i'm doin' a bit of summar shopping as well.
joe
Shopping list...
1) Canon 100/2 for Joe
2) Summar 50/2 for Ralph
back alley
05-26-2005, 16:50
Shopping list...
1) Canon 100/2 for Joe
2) Summar 50/2 for Ralph
new idea!
i pay for yours and you pay for mine!
yeaaah...
joe
Soooo... where in New York were you guys planning to go shopping for these lenses?
back alley
05-26-2005, 16:54
not sure.
do you know of any good photo studios ?
;)joe
back alley
05-26-2005, 16:55
Ummmmm, no
well ya never gave that one much thought...;)
joe
I know a great place for lunch right in the middle of the camera district - Eisenberg's Sandwich Shop. It's on 5th Avenue between 22nd and 23rd Streets on the west side of the avenue. The prices are extremely reasonable - $6 for a pastrami sandwich piled a mile high, pickles, Cel Ray soda.......... The sandwich shop is within walking distance to Adorama, Photo Habitat, Calumet, etc..
back alley
05-26-2005, 18:32
a kosher deli and several camera shops in the same hood?
sounds like heaven.
maybe a could find a small apartment near by, get a job in the camera shop and find a nice redhaired woman...
joe
Eisenberg's which is near my internist is not a deli, but an old fashioned lunchionette famous (so they claim) for their tuna fish salad sandwich. I tried it and was dissapointed. They don't have pastrami on a steam table, but heat it in a microwave (I believe). If we want to visit MOMA, the Carnegie Deli is not too far away. They are expensive, crowded with tourists, but are said to have the best pastrami in the city. I have not tried it, however.
As for camera stores there are surprisingly few compared to 20 years ago. B&H are not too far away, Photo Village and Tamarkin's are fairly close together and Adorama is several blocks to the west.
One can buy an all day transit card for about six or seven dollars and ride busses and subways all day so long as the trips are 18 minutes or more apart. Manhattan has pretty good bus service.
Please keep making suggestions.
Kurt M.
shaaktiman
05-28-2005, 00:13
sorry Joe. Unless you're hasidic I don't think you'll be offered a job in any of the shops in nyc. such is life.
I vote that we all just line up behind Kurt and follow him around all day. We may get a few strange looks, even in New York, but I am sure we will anyway. :)
I picked up two train schedules yesterday. The Metro North web site is pretty good, but not like having the paper in your hand.
From time to time I visit B&H. The number of Chasidic and ultra-orthodox employees decreases with each visit. The ones taking payment at the payment counter are still Chasidic but rhe camera salesmen increasingly reflect the ethnic diversity of New York.
The one thing I note is there are no women employees. for one thing ultra orthodox Jews which includes Chasidim are not permitted to be in close proximity to women lest they be tempted in some way, especially if they are married. As they have the same hormones as the rest of us males (I am Jewish but not religious) this is understandable. there is a large Chasidic community in parts of Rockland County, NY who commute to the city via special busses in which the women sit on one side and the men on the opposite side with a curtain along the middle. Unfortunately, pastrami which is Rumanian in origin is not a feature of their diet. At any rate if Backalley (Joe) wants a job with B&H I'm sure he can get one. Not only do they pay employees when they are closed for national holidays, but also when they are closed for the Jewish holidays as far as I know.
Kurt M.
back alley
05-28-2005, 16:30
thank you kurt! i like having options.
i didn't know pastrami was rumanian, the things you learn in this place.
i'm betting that retail does not pay too well but i assume there is some form of commision.
none the less, i doubt that i have the will or determination to move home after such a long absence.
it would be hard i think to switch cultures/life styles.
joe
I'm gonna try and be in town for this. Should be a blast.
Joe, I fully expect to hear the old neighborhood in your voice when I meet you. I figure it will take just a few days to get you back to speaking NYC. And really, how different can NYC and Edmonton be?
Yeah right, Joe working at B&H... that's suicide by GAS. ;)
I vote that we all just line up behind Kurt and follow him around all day. We may get a few strange looks, even in New York, but I am sure we will anyway. :)
I picked up two train schedules yesterday. The Metro North web site is pretty good, but not like having the paper in your hand.
Unless we look like a group of abominable snowmen I can assure you we will not get strange looks wherever we go in the city.
Kurt M. :angel:
Snowman, Edmonton Joe...
I think we have problems. :D
back alley
05-28-2005, 17:32
Snowman, Edmonton Joe...
I think we have problems. :D
lmao!
you've seen my profile eh?
joe
OK, I am SO ready for this trip! I have the week off from work, picking up train ticket this week, arranging lodging with my brother in NJ, deciding what to pack--
>FED 5(the Zorkis are off to repairland), J-12,and my Agat 18.
>Money
>Some film(for the ride down)
>Oh,yeah, I guess I'll bring clothes also. :rolleyes:
Packing done.
Shopping list:
I need an actual camera bag and I can't do that mail order so that's first.
Some filters(ND and yellowgreen. Maybe an IR if not too pricey)
FILM
Some other small things.
And if I can find one: Poppy Seed Streudel.
I am not worried about itinerary what ever the group opts for sounds like fun to me.
I will be counting down the days...As will the knuckleheads I work with. I haven't been much fun at work lately-the moronic things they do over and over that I usually laugh off are bugging the $##@ out of me-I need this trip!
Rob
Poppy seed streudel. I need to do some research. This used to be an easy item to find, but things have been changing.
Kurt M.
Poppy seed streudel. I need to do some research. This used to be an easy item to find, but things have been changing.
Kurt M.
Way back when, I lived in Rochester and worked in a Kosher deli there. The Dr. Brown's soda I can still get but the struedel I haven't seen since. I don't remember the brand we sold but it was made in NYC.
In Binghamton(where my parents live now) there is a good german bakery but they don't make it any more. The baker that used to make it for them passed away and no one there knows his secret recipie.
Rob
I'm sure there is somewhere in NYC you can get it but I am also sure it is well off the beaten path. The profile of ethnic bakeries has changed drastically in NYC in the last 30 years.
Kurt M.
Eisenberg's which is near my internist is not a deli, but an old fashioned lunchionette famous (so they claim) for their tuna fish salad sandwich. I tried it and was dissapointed. They don't have pastrami on a steam table, but heat it in a microwave (I believe). If we want to visit MOMA, the Carnegie Deli is not too far away. They are expensive, crowded with tourists, but are said to have the best pastrami in the city. I have not tried it, however.
As for camera stores there are surprisingly few compared to 20 years ago. B&H are not too far away, Photo Village and Tamarkin's are fairly close together and Adorama is several blocks to the west.
One can buy an all day transit card for about six or seven dollars and ride busses and subways all day so long as the trips are 18 minutes or more apart. Manhattan has pretty good bus service.
Please keep making suggestions.
Kurt M.
Their pastrami is heated in a steam tray. It is not micro waved. Taste - to each their own.
Cheers,
Keith
Way back when, I lived in Rochester and worked in a Kosher deli there. The Dr. Brown's soda I can still get but the struedel I haven't seen since. I don't remember the brand we sold but it was made in NYC.
In Binghamton(where my parents live now) there is a good german bakery but they don't make it any more. The baker that used to make it for them passed away and no one there knows his secret recipie.
Rob
There are a few Hungarian bakeries on the upper east side off of 1st and 2nd avenues - 70' - 80's, that have struedal. This area was once heavily populated by Germans and Hugarians.
Keith
I think you mean a Dr. Browns celery soda, known as celery tonic to my generation. The cream is good too.
The place to go is Katz's on Delancey St. Most kosher delis dissappeared with the cholesterol scare. Add a portion of stuffed derma (kishka) to the pastrami sandwich and you might have to return to Canada in a box. You would deffinitely be in heaven, however. :angel:
Expect to see you on June 28.
Kurt M.
P.S. you can recognize me by my avatar. It was taken in 1961, but I look in the mirror every day and have noticed no changes.
Katz's Deli is on 205 East Houston Street, on the corner of Ludlow, one block east of Orchard Street. Most of the deli-men are Hispanic.
Cheers,
Keith
Sadly, its true. After my last post a friend of my wife who is a maven (expert) recommended the 10th St. Deli on 10th and 2nd Ave. also a bit out of the way, but according to her very good; believe me most of them are gone, even Pastrami King across from the county offices and courts in Queens which had excellent pastrami (they made it themselves) and an ideal location. I always tried to pull jury duty there because of them, but they have been gone for about ten years.
Celery soda may sound awful but it is actually very good and goes great with pastrami because it is not as sweet as other sodas. It doesn't taste like a stalk of celery, believe me.
Kurt M.
P.S. How are you feeling?
Sorry Kurt, the deli is the famous Second Avenue Deli on the south east corner of 10th Street and 2nd Avenue, across from St. Marks Church.
Cheers,
Keith
I'll settle for a good Coney Island knish at that deli. Too bad you can't get them deep fried any more. That also went out with greater awareness of cholesterol problems. See you there!
Cheers,
Huck
Huck,
Almost all of the knishes sold on the street by the hot dog vendors are fried. They are heated as they are sold. The best knishes are not far from Katz's - Yonah Shimmel's, also on Houston Street - 137 East Houston. Highly recommended. They have been in the same location for 95 years.
http://www.newyorkcityfood.com/knishes.html
Cheers,
Keith
Poppy seed streudel. I need to do some research. This used to be an easy item to find, but things have been changing.
Kurt M.
Kurt,
Some of the best poppy seed struedel can be found at Moishe's Bakery, on Second Avenue near 7th Street. There are a few smaller Ukranian/Polish bakeries in the area that sell it as well.
Keith
Sorry Kurt, I don't mean to contradict you, but I have lived on the Lower East Side for close to 30 years. My hometown neighborhood.
Cheers,
Keith
Oy vey! I am familiar with Yona Shimmels. Thanks for the corrections. Perhaps we should consider a trip to the lower east side as so much of what we are seeking is located so close together there. Now if there was a good camera shop nearby that would be a blessing (sigh).
Kurt M.
back alley
05-31-2005, 14:59
well, maybe some camera shop shopping, then a cab ride to the lower east side for lunch and then off to the friedlander exhibit and then a snack...;)
and does anyone know where harry met sally? my dad took me to that deli and for the life of me i can't remember where it is or the name.
joe
With kbg's guidence and a little help from me and anyone else familiar with the city; sounds good to me. Lets hope the weather holds up.
Kurt M.
Man, it doesn't help that I haven't had lunch today but reading all these great tips for Delis has my mouth watering..... really wish I could meet up with you guys in search of New York's finest pastrami....and I'd bee keen to try that celery soda, sounds interesting.
Very jealous and slightly hungry in Sydney :D .... AKALAI
parks5920
06-07-2005, 22:06
The west coast is offically jealous... ;)
This is only a couple weeks away. :)
back alley
06-08-2005, 04:51
i'm starting to think about which camera bag to bring and what will go into it.
any suggestions?
joe
I am torn too. I think I want to take 1 camera, right now I may go with M3, 21, 50 and 90mm lenses.
Then I am torn to add a 35mmm lens.....
What about color and b&w, fast and slow film?
Oy vey! I am familiar with Yona Shimmels. Thanks for the corrections. Perhaps we should consider a trip to the lower east side as so much of what we are seeking is located so close together there. Now if there was a good camera shop nearby that would be a blessing (sigh).
Kurt M.
Kurt,
There used to be a couple of interesting camera shops, one on Houston near Yonah Shimmels, and one on 9th Street just off of 2nd Avenue. Unfortunately with the rising rents, they are now gone. The latter shop was run by an old Russian man and his son. They always had pristine vintage equipment, as the father was a camera repairman. Tons of old Leicas, Russian gear, and movie cameras. I walked by one day, and like most mom and pop shops , they just disappeared.
Keith
back alley
06-08-2005, 05:39
I am torn too. I think I want to take 1 camera, right now I may go with M3, 21, 50 and 90mm lenses.
Then I am torn to add a 35mmm lens.....
What about color and b&w, fast and slow film?
i'm thinking the p and the iv sb with 35/50/85 or the 100/3.5 if it shows by the time i leave.
right now i'm thinking the 35/2.8 with the 50/1.9...something a bit different.
joe
Well, now I have to pick which 50????????????
Maybe two, an old Summicron and the Canon 50/1.5. Hopefully I will shoot a couple rolls and will then be able to compare.
back alley
06-08-2005, 07:26
take the 1.5, just in case you do a portrait of me.
i need all the 'look' i can get!
joe
I just made an error: I looked at the photvillage web site and they have a similar deal on Bessa R and 35mm lens as Cameraquest has.... :rolleyes:
I have easy options in what gear to bring w/me. The Zorkis are off to repairland so I can bring both working FSU cameras I own: FED5 and Kiev 4a. My collapsable Industar won't fit on the FED and the J-8 for the Kiev is pretty good so- FED and J-12+Kiev and J-8. Or just the FED and the 35 and 50. My J-9 has turned out to be a POS so it's staying home. I do have some nonRF options though...but no. I really do need to find a bag for my RF stuff. To do that I will just have to bring the FED.
Anybody know if Fedka has a real store or is he web-only?
While you guys are comparing real cameras, I'll be off in the corner with eyes closed, fingers in ears and humming. I'm not trying to be rude but just avoiding temptation. :D
joe, any idea how many of us there's going to be?
Rob
back alley
06-08-2005, 08:28
not sure off hand how many are coming.
i think it's posted somewhere on this thread and my list is at home.
never be embarrased by what you shoot. i've seen lots of crap taken by the 'best' cameras in the world and lots of great shots taken by 'crap' cameras.
i love my canons but in the real world they don't cost as much as others and there will always be some who will judge by that standard.
we're lucky, none of those people will be there with us!!
joe
i think fedka operates out of his apartment, but i'm not sure why i think that or where i got that info from.
I'm not embarrassed by the gear I've got. I just don't need another excuse for more "new" stuff. I would be happier if I hadn't torqued the Zorki, though.
I just got back some film from the FED and the J-12. Nothing I'm gonna share with anyone but the gear is doing what it's supposed to do. Now all I need to do is eliminate the operator error and I'm set! :D
I've got a friend who makes a ridiculous amount of money and he's always got to have the latest gadgets. Whenever I see him he usually ends up telling me about the latest whatever. He's gone digital(Rebel, I think) and yet he could get just about the same results with a disposable camera.
My osession is a bit different. I admit to enjoying the "cool" factor but I much more enjoy the battery free, sunny sixteen road.
I will be looking for a lens in the 85-90mm range, though.
Rob
back alley
06-08-2005, 09:12
sorry if i misinterpreted...
No big deal.
I do like the FSU gear and, if I'm honest w/myself, the later Canon RF gear is amazing.
I enjoy the results and the gear. The FSU slope is plenty steep and slippery for me; I could see me taking the same ride with the P's, VI-L's, and 7's qiute easily. All this is a hobby for me and at least the FSU equipment won't hurt my wallet too much.
When I start seriously wondering "Gee, is a wrinkled curtain a deal breaker?" or something like that I know it's time to step away from the computer and go outside and shoot.
The other thing I like about the FSU stuff: packages from far away. Silly, I know, but I've always liked sending away for things. As a young kid I spent summers with my grandparents who would save me cereal box tops so I could send off for whatever toy was on offer. I would then spend the summer bugging the heck out of the postman "Have you got my___, yet?" :D
Man, what an annoying kid I am/was!
Rob
Today I visited my urologist. As his office is not to far from the Second Avenue Deli. I had
planned to eat lunch there afterward. Then I received an omen. The buzzer sounded and a person was admitted who turned out not to be a patient but a delivery guy with a shopping bag from the Second Avenue Deli for my doctor. In the eight years I have been seeing him this is the first time this has happened. This nailed it down. In spite of the heat and humidity as soon as my examination (and humiliation) was completed I headed off to have lunch. I have never eaten there before. Here is my evaluation:
I ordered a pastrami on rye ($12.25) and a Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray ($1.95) The waiter an old timer brought a carafe of ice water with half a lemon in it and a small but very adequate plate of cole slaw in a vinagrette rather than a mayonnaise or salad dressing and very soon afterward a very hefty pastrami sandwich. Most places today serve these sandwiches on small slices of bread so while they are piled high there is actually less than there would be were the bread slices of normal size. Not here! A massive sandwich on normal size bread slices. The meat was soft and moist, but, IMHO lacking in the rich flavor that pastrami should have. I think that the meat was pre sliced and kept on a steam tray as it was brought very quickly and this would account for the washed out flavor. Otherwise the service was excellent and polite and the restaurant was packed with customers and very clean. When I worked in downtown Brooklyn up to 1997 I would occassionally have lunch in Junior's a downtown Brooklyn landmark and the pastrami was better although not as tender. Junior's also serves it on a special club roll (at an extra charge) which is to die for.
The Second Avenue Deli also has stuffed derma also known as kishka ($8.95). This is a delicious dish which is not at all like Polish kieszka and which is also known as heart attack on a plate. Fortunately, the deli is only six short blocks from Beth Israel Hospital a major New York teaching hospital and also one of the teaching hospitals of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine which can perform an angioplasty on very short notice and probably does for those who combine the kishka with one of the deli's sandwiches. At the next table a patron was having a corned beef sandwich which was also huge. Not far from the deli is the Strand Bookstore which is currently undergoing an expansion and which has all matter of photography books which you will not find in Iowa.
Unfortunately, I am leaving for my upstate summer home tomorrow so I cannot increase my cholesterol count by checking out the small number of other places which have genuine pastrami.
Hope to see you on 6/28.
Kurt M.
back alley
06-08-2005, 19:12
$12.25 for a sandwhich?
it has been a while i guess...
joe
Well, most sandwiches are not that expensive, but if you want kosher deli or even kosher style deli you pay through the nose. There was at least a quarter pound of meat, however.
One of the factors accounting for the demise of these delis was the high prices. I noticed that two knockwursts with beans and trimmings was $15.95. In Queensbury, NY near my summer home where I shop I can buy Hilshire Farm knockwurst (not kosher, has pork as well as beef) for $2.49 a pound. Here in NYC the same package goes for $3.99.
Kurt M.
Thanks Kurt...I am salivating again!!! :D
Would you beleive its lunchtime again here in Sydney and I still haven't had lunch...again! I am stinging to try a genuine Deli pastrami sandwich and a "Cel-Ray". If I ever make it over to New York sometime in tehnear future do you think you could be my culinary tour guide...please?
As an aside I was watching late night reruns of "100 Center Street" and in it was some mention of a Deli...I missed the name as I was doing some school work but was wondering if the one referred to was a genuine deli....cool show by the way.
AKALAI
....mmmm I seem to remember a Nero Wolfe episode as well where he eats at some famous Deli, one of teh only time I think he eats out....haha, I think if I ever make it over I'm going to have to do plenty of research and take myself on a tour of New Yorks finest, and remaining, Delis, Diners and Luncheonettes....well its a good excuse for a mini photo-project anyway and I am sticking with it.
AKALAI
My chest hurts just thinking of this.
....mmmm I seem to remember a Nero Wolfe episode as well where he eats at some famous Deli, one of teh only time I think he eats out....haha, I think if I ever make it over I'm going to have to do plenty of research and take myself on a tour of New Yorks finest, and remaining, Delis, Diners and Luncheonettes....well its a good excuse for a mini photo-project anyway and I am sticking with it.
AKALAI
Better hurry, lunchionettes are turning into coffee shops (Newyorkese for a fancy lunchionette with "upscale" food), kosher and kosher style delis are fewer and fewer and diners, well you wouldn't believe it you will have to see foryourself.
Backalley will have culture shock when he returns after 30 years. I never watched Centre Street (it is spelled the British way as it dates back to colonial times), but I am not familiar with a deli in that area which is now pretty much an extension of Chinatown; doesn't mean there isn't one though. At the second Avenue Deli which is a kosher deli, one of the headwaiters (maitre d'?) was Chinese. New york never ceases to surprise.
Kurt M.
Uncle Bill
06-09-2005, 19:03
I wish I could but I am working that day. I am overdue for a visit to NYC and yes its only a 40 minute flight. How about a Toronto Gathering this Summer? Anyone?
Bill
back alley
06-09-2005, 20:39
getting back to my quandary about what to pack for this 2 week holiday (camera wise), i just had a thought.
a deeply disturbing thought...should i take the digital?
joe
If its an RF, why not? On the other hand if its anything else you will be among friends who I"m sure won't tell, so why not as well. The only thing is how much equipment can one schlep around on a hot day? The schlep factor must be considered. I think I will bring only a Bessa L.
Kurt M.
back alley
06-10-2005, 11:56
i'm thinking for a 2 week holiday with friends and also a day trip into manhatten.
forget the digital, i don't really need instant shots and i will scan my film when i get home.
i already feel the pull to bring everything i own with me...just in case.
and then i think, a p with a 35 and i'll be happy.
or maybe a 50 and the 100 would work well too.
my original plan...pw/35 - ivsb w/ 50 and the 85 ( or 100 if available) still feels good too.
joe
I would bring everything then select on a day-by-day basis. That's what I did when I went to Europe recently. Mostly left 2/3 of the stuff in the apartment we had but I ended up using all 5 lenses that I took over the time I was there. :)
back alley
06-10-2005, 12:45
peter, you are a bad influence!
you should come and meet us in new york.
they must have a super speed train to make an easy commute.
joe
You are right, I should. Right now I have some very heavy duty work which extends over weekends, so I'm not going anywhere for several weeks at least. :( (That unfortunately includes Banff in Canada which I had the opportunity to visit but work is getting in the way.)
Anyway, the Amtrak Acela high-speed train Boston-Washington is broken! :(
Anyway, the Amtrak Acela high-speed train Boston-Washington is broken! :(
Break problems I believe. It will be a much faster trip than you expect. :)
back alley
06-10-2005, 13:14
bummer!
banff is beautiful any time of the year.
i used to head out to the mountains all the time but i have not been there in years now.
i used to camp but now i wake up too sore to sleep on the ground and i'm too cheap tp pay for a room.
joe
Next week some time I will start a head count and request for cell phone numbers. I figure if we have a couple phone numbers we will be able to find each other if someone is running late.
back alley
06-10-2005, 13:19
good thinking ralph.
ya gotta love an organized kinda guy.
joe
shaaktiman
06-26-2005, 14:40
Hey guys,
I'm sorry to have to do this, but I need to bail on Tuesday. I have some big deadlines and needed to schedule a meeting for tuesday morning. (but hey, I tried.)
I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's shots when you get them scanned in. It's interesting to see what non-ny'ers will decide to shoot in my home city. Sort of a old city/fresh eyes thing. Also, if anyone's interested, there's some neat exhibits over at the International Center for Photography and the whitney.
Good luck and have fun!
adam
oh, by the way. If you happen to see any of the posters up around town advertising some new shows on CourtTV or IFC, they're both campaigns I did some work on... and are actively contributing to why I can't make it Tuesday, unfortunately. :)
back alley
06-26-2005, 14:44
bummer!
will raise a canon in your absence.
joe
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