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RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 10:14
I've always wanted a black paint M4 that I could use and brass up! I have three lenses for my M6 and would love to not have to change lenses so often!

On the other hand, I have always wanted a hasselblad and got one almost a year ago. It is the current 503CW with the 80mm CFE current lens as well. I also love that camera.

Adding another leica won't get me anything differnet photo wise. It's just another 35mm... but. well, we all know about leica lust and this is the one I've lusted after for a very long time!

But I do love my Hasselblad.. though I have only shot maybe 15 rolls in it.. I've gotten some nice shots that I do enjoy!

I can't afford to buy anything right now.. I can't afford to buy anything right now outright. I either have to sell the hasselblad, or I don't buy it.

I tend to like to be a minimalist when it comes to taking equipment. I don't mean 2nd bodies, but I mean I tend to have issues when I take two different systems with me. As in I can't ever decide which to take, so I take both and do a crappy job with both, as opposed to taking one and concentrating on that and doing a much better job!

HALP!!!!!

I forgot to mention that we just bought an M4 at the store I work at a few minutes ago and so this is what has brought on the dilema

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 12:49
Don't everyone speak at once! :p

I think I am going to put the hassey on ebay with a reserve of $2,000.. if it sells, the leica is mine, if not then I keep the hassey :p

Todd.Hanz
10-27-2008, 13:00
keep the 'blad, you've got the M6.

Todd

rogue_designer
10-27-2008, 13:02
sell the M6?

That's what I would do anyway.

steverett
10-27-2008, 13:17
I'm with Todd. What will you gain with an M4? Not changing lenses as often?

sienarot
10-27-2008, 13:45
I'd never sell my Hassy to fund a Leica (especially if I already owned an M6 (which I do)). But that's just me.

mas
10-27-2008, 13:52
Keep the Hassy. You can always put a digital back on it someday.

cjm
10-27-2008, 13:52
Sounds like your tempted simply because an M4 is available at the store you work at. Were you thinking about it before that when you could have purchased an M4 from another source? IMO, keep the blad. If anything, sell the M6 and if you need one, get a light meter.

mfogiel
10-27-2008, 13:52
Sell the 5D, sell the M6, buy Hasselblad SWC/M, buy the 150/4 Sonnar, and you are set, or sell everything and buy an M7 with the Tri Elmar and you are set again.

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 13:54
well I have always wanted one, but I could never afford to buy one from a store at the going rate of $3,000 or so. I can pick this one up for near the $2,000 range which is why I am more tempted.

Krosya
10-27-2008, 13:56
Keep Hassy, no question! Or sell it and get older hassy model and keep the difference in price.

jbf
10-27-2008, 14:00
I say do what you want. Personally I would keep the hasselblad without a doubt. Its a camera that I would love to own, but for now my Yashica-Mat does the job.

rolo
10-27-2008, 14:02
Chris,
take a look at the work of Marc Tucker and Michael Kenna. If this doesn't stir your your ambitions, then maybe selling the 'Blad is the right thing to do.

Take care though, you might want another lens for it. :bang:

Rolo

totifoto
10-27-2008, 14:06
DUDE! DONT SELL THE HASSELBLAD!!!!!!

You already have a Leica M6 and I know you will miss the Hassy later on.

I LOVE my Hasselblad and it is the last camera I will ever sell and I dont even have a Leica......yet ;) But I would never sell my Hasselblad for a leica, IŽd rather save up for one.

Todd.Hanz
10-27-2008, 14:11
also, some M4 BP were not brass but chrome...they don't brass well and look dirty, better check first.

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 14:17
This one is paint. I can see the brass coming through. this isn't a mint example :p

Man you guys are making it tough for me.. This is why I asked!!!!

Silva Lining
10-27-2008, 14:19
Don't sell the 'blad. You'll regret it!

The M4 is a great camera, but you already have an M6 which IMHO is a great camera too.

I waited so long to get a Hasselblad, I'd only sell it now if my kids were hungry...and they'd have to be very hungry ;)

rover
10-27-2008, 14:24
I will give you a good buy on my Hassey 150mm. You know, to make you feel better and all. ;)

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 14:25
now keep in mind that I have a great, minty Holga for my medium format needs..... :p


Big help rover.. big help

szekiat
10-27-2008, 14:26
no offense but the 503cw represents what i think is probably the best v-system camera ever built. Why u'd want to trade it for anything less than an original MP eludes me... keep the blad. It represents a completely different arena of photography that u'll never achieve with a leica.

rover
10-27-2008, 14:28
now keep in mind that I have a great, minty Holga for my medium format needs..... :p


Big help rover.. big help

You would have bitten if I offered the 50, but I am keeping that one.

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 14:31
na.. I only use the hasselblad for one thing. Portraits.. so actually the 150 is more interesting to me! Actually if I keep the hassey, the real lens I'd love to own someday is the makro so I could do close head shots.

You guys are probably right.. every bit of common sense I have.. which isn't saying a lot.. says I should just keep the hassey since it does in fact give me a look that I can't duplicate with the leica, where as the M4 will be identical to the M6. Not to mention, some of you may swear at me for this but lets be honest, when it comes to sharpness, there really isn't a contest between the two, the hassey wins hands down.

MikeL
10-27-2008, 14:38
You could always sell the M6 and Summicron ASPH and buy the M4 and either a 35mm Biogon or 35mm CV. Especially if you don't use the meter. If you decide not to, I, er, a friend, yeah a friend of mine, might be interested in the black M4. :)

BillBingham2
10-27-2008, 14:50
Keep the 'Blad, keep the M6, both are classics. While the M4 is a wonderful camera, so is the M6.

B2 (;->

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 15:09
I think you guys have convinced me! It's just always so tempting when you actually get something in hand you know. It's easy to not bother if you had to go ebay one or look for it, but when it is right there in your hand it becomes oh so desirable!!

Thanks everyone for the input! Nice to see you are all looking out for my money.. other than rover that is.. :p

cjm
10-27-2008, 15:39
Just curious, what store is that M4 at? I'm not looking to buy one but I might take a look at it if I'm nearby.

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 15:40
Fullerton Cameras. We are just north of downtown Fullerton.

35mmdelux
10-27-2008, 16:15
a well used M4 in exchange for a new Hassey w/ 80 CFE? KEEP THE HASSEY -- you already have a Leica. Sell two Leica lenses, keep your favorite.

FrankS
10-27-2008, 16:37
Actually I'm not sure you would even get $2000 for your Hassy. Keep it. Now is a good time to buy Hassy lenses.

RdEoSg
10-27-2008, 16:50
I thought the same as you Frank. I was quoted about $23-2500 for it from a few dealers as far as what they would sell it for simply because if you watch KEH, ebay et al, there are basicly none of mine available. I guess no one is getting rid of them, but I was sorta suspicious myself of actually finding a buyer for it. I myself paid about $1500 which I think is closer to the mark these days. Sure B&H shows it at about $5000 but when do you think the last time was they actually sold one of those! :p I think maybe $1700-1800 is probably the more realistic price range on ebay which would be to low for me to move over to the M4 anyways!

I think the smarted thing for me is just to look for the 50 nokton for the leica and another A12 back for the Hassey and I am pretty set. Can shoot multiple film speeds or color vs bw. With the 50 I have a great low light nice bokeh lens.... and a lot cheaper!

thomasw_
10-27-2008, 19:50
If I were you, I would sell the M6 and pay the difference for the BP M4. Eat wieners and beans for 4 months to make up the difference. This way you keep the MF gear you love and get the 35mm body you love....it can work if you are willing to discipline yourself in some other way.

Go make the deal tomorrow, that's what I would do if I were you!

J/K, do as you please ;)

nome_alice
10-27-2008, 20:13
yeah, sell the 503, get a 500c/m and with the difference get the M4, and a nice lunch.

maddoc
10-27-2008, 21:19
Keep your film cameras (both, the M6 and Hassy) and sell the 5D as soon as possible ... :cool:

shadowfox
10-28-2008, 09:36
Good advice from everyone, here's one more thing you can do, look up a lot of photos from Hasselblads in flickr or pbase, etc. That always knock some sense into my GAS-powered urge to buy something I already have covered and don't really need :p

Btw, you know that your Hassy is much more capable than just taking portraits. Get a 55mm Distagon and do landscape shots, never seen it priced so low as nowadays, take advantage of it.

RdEoSg
10-28-2008, 09:39
There are lots of stuff I'd love to buy for the hassey, but it's the whole gas thing... Right now all I have is the camera with waist level finder and A12 back and the 80mm CFE. I'd like to have a 45 finder and another back, but if I start getting lenses I am in biiiiig trouble!!! We shall see...

My boss put the M4 on ebay so that's that! I told him I was going to just hold on to mine. He's probably happier that way too! The leica is more valuable than the hassey, he was just doing me a favor!

RdEoSg
06-15-2009, 08:25
8 Months Later:

I just want to thank everyone again for the help! I am veeeeery happy that I kept the Hassey! I definitely would have regretted selling it looking back on it now. Yesterday I even picked up an 8 extension tube so I can get a bit closer. Nothing too crazy yet, but I can see a bigger one showing up in the future :P

Thanks again everyone! You saved me from a big regret!

Pickett Wilson
06-15-2009, 09:29
Now, Chris, if you'd just take these four 70mm backs I have taking up space, you would be completely fulfilled. ;)

aperture64
06-15-2009, 09:46
I would keep the Hassy. Different format and the 6x6 is classic. M4 black is just another camera added to your Leica kit.

Benjamin
06-15-2009, 09:52
I personally really dislike Hasselblad's so I'd vote for the M4, which feels better and doesn't look as smug.

Chris101
06-15-2009, 09:59
Ok, so now you've come to the end, and cannot buy the M4, as it's gone gone gone. Sell your 'blad anyway, and spend the money on film, expensive wine and gas. You will feel lighter and more at one with your photography.

shadowfox
06-15-2009, 14:04
How about some pictures from the Hassey then?
At least you owe us that much ;)

Chris101
06-15-2009, 15:06
I personally really dislike Hasselblad's so I'd vote for the M4, which feels better and doesn't look as smug.That's funny! Which looks more smug, a Hassy or a Leica? I'd say Leica if you show the red dot, and Hassy if you use the waist level finder and smoke a pipe at the same time.

I'm with Will, show us some hassy picts Chris!

SimonSawSunlight
06-15-2009, 15:26
sell either, get an M4 :D

shadowfox
06-16-2009, 08:31
That's funny! Which looks more smug, a Hassy or a Leica? I'd say Leica if you show the red dot, and Hassy if you use the waist level finder and smoke a pipe at the same time.

I'm with Will, show us some hassy picts Chris!

How can you be smug with a Hassey? You always bow your head down when using it.

:D

notturtle
06-16-2009, 09:53
if you are using the Hassie, hang onto it; however, if you stop using it, the second 35mm body will help you, but only if you are shooting under time pressure.

johannielscom
06-16-2009, 10:50
I never shot a Hassy, blimey, I have never even held one before!

BUT: as my mother taught me: when in doubt, don't do it. That was part of a how-to-cross-a-street-course, but it applies in almost all decisionmaking.

So, by asking the question, you have answered it already, IMHO.

RdEoSg
06-16-2009, 12:10
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2025/2224380845_a11c9ce1e6.jpg

Since you asked, Here's Grandpa!

now THAT is bokeh

RdEoSg
06-16-2009, 12:13
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3384327134_791c018982.jpg

And one more.

I have rolls and rolls of Leica and Hassey that need to be scanned... I need a full month off just for that!

Chris101
06-16-2009, 21:21
Ah... the square. Lovely. In my mind Leica and Hasselblad go together, they each do well what the other doesn't. I love the swirlies in the background of the picture of your grandfather Chris. That's better than bokey!

shadowfox
06-17-2009, 07:32
Nice pics, Chris, although I am quite surprised seeing the swirly bokeh :)
None of my pictures from the Hassey has that.

Chris101
06-17-2009, 10:44
Nice pics, Chris, although I am quite surprised seeing the swirly bokeh :)
None of my pictures from the Hassey has that.Gramps was probably doing a cartwheel, and Chris was panning!

RdEoSg
06-18-2009, 20:03
It's a funky old fruit tree behind him, maybe the randomness of the branches and all did it?

And thanks!!

mojobebop
06-19-2009, 09:47
sell the M6?

That's what I would do anyway.

you will one day regret selling the hassleblad.
that is just the nature of the beast.
i regret everything i've sold.
(martin d28 for one)

but sometimes you have to do it to progress.
it's always lack of funds.

ChrisN
06-19-2009, 15:20
Nice pics Chris - I think you did very well in deciding to keep the 'blad. I'm collecting a pair of extension tubes myself, tonight!

35mmdelux
06-19-2009, 17:19
Hi Chris,

Nice shots. I find myself in the same boat, a Makina 67 fell into my hands and later a mint Mamiya 6 (thanks Ray). Now the 501CM/100CF/60mmCB sit on the shelf gathering dust.

Al Kaplan
06-19-2009, 18:21
Nah. Keep the Hassy. It already gives you the choice of the old style backs set to "1" through a window or the new style set just by turning the crank after aligning the arrow, black lenses, chrome lenses, T* or single coated lenses, a jillion focusing screens and styles of prisms, add on wind cranks, and so on. Then there's the high flash synch speed, all the noise so people will know that you're around, and best of all, the blackout until you wind on to the next frame. NO Leica has all that going for it!

35mmdelux
06-19-2009, 18:29
Al -- Your sense of humor is most amusing.

P.