View Full Version : Tri-X and Rodinal --> ISO?
Florian1234
07-14-2008, 03:21
Hello all,
in the datasheet of the Agfa developers there's that table with the needed dev-times for the various available b&w films.
What puzzles me is that there's ISO 500 for Tri-X instead of 400.
How to solve this "problem" - or is it not an issue?
Any hints are welcome.
petronius
07-14-2008, 03:43
Digitaltruth has many more combinations: http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.html
Tri-X/Rodinal seems to be every ASAs darling ;-)
The actual ISO rating would be somewhere around 250. At 400 it already feels too contrasty.
like2fiddle
07-14-2008, 04:38
Tri-x at 250 in Rodinal is one of my favorites.
One of the reasons I like Tri-x so much is that it can be shot at and acceptably developed at a wide range of speeds quite easily and consistantly. Rodinal @ 250, almost any other developer @ 400/800, Diafine @ 1250/1600.
charjohncarter
07-14-2008, 07:42
I'm another using 200-250 EI for Trix with Rodinal 1+50. I read in a very old (1975?) Pop Photo article where the author discouraged the use of TriX stand developed in Rodinal 1+100. I tried it anyway. It didn't work for me, but stand development TriX with HC-110 (1:123) did. That article was on Rodinal in general and very good. I printed it off the WWW, it was originally posted by a RFF member. If you want it I have it still, I think.
Florian1234
07-14-2008, 14:10
So I then shoot Tri-X at 250 and develope it in Rodinal? Sounds very nice.
What about the grain with this setting?
As for grain, you'll find the negatives are somewhat grainier than with many developers, but sharper due to Rodinal's famous high-accutance nature.
I have found that using lower ISO's has more of an effect on the shadow detail than grain structure compared to rating the film at 400. I 've never tested or shot this combination above 400.
And 200 is my preferred speed rating.
-j.
charjohncarter
07-14-2008, 16:10
There is an increase in grain, but it isn't as bad as many think it is. Sorry, this is 6x6 but you can see that it isn't horrible. I couldn't find a 35mm example:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2175/2328679531_a06441d368.jpg?v=0
charjohncarter
07-14-2008, 16:14
AHH, found one, this is TriX at 250 in Rodinal 1+50, 35mm:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2462308478_c049e85c4c.jpg?v=0
sockeyed
07-14-2008, 16:35
A few years back, there was a lot of discussion here on RFF about using Rodinal for really high-speed Tri-X. It pushes amazingly well in Rodinal 1:50. Keeping the grain down is all in the (minimal) agitation.
1600 20-22 mins
3200 30-33 mins
6400 41 mins
12,800 51 mins
Times are all for 68F, agitate first 5 secs, and then wait 5 minutes to do it again. Agitate every 5 minutes for 5 secs.
At 1600:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/33/38435454_30ddc1e591_b.jpg
Florian1234
07-15-2008, 08:03
Thank you all for the helpful tips. So I'll try it at rated 250 in Rodinal next time I get hands on a roll of Tri-X (currently I'm using APX100).
titrisol
07-21-2008, 22:43
I have shot TriX at box speed in Rodinal, not bad in 1+25
It has a nice 60s grain and decent tonality.
However, if grain is not what you want, then shoot as 200
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