new 35/1.4 on a r4a?

[back alley]

if i read another m8 thread i may just go a bit more stir crazy than i already am;).

so let's talk about the lens so many are waiting on and that most of us can afford...

will a 35/1.4 be harder to use on the r4a than the other bessas? is it too fast for the ebl of the r4?

my assumption is that it might be tougher to focus at up close distances, wide open. so if i rarely move in THAT close but stick to my 4 to 6 foot away photo taking position i should be ok. and having that 1.4 will be nice for those early winter morning through the local farmer's market strolls. for those times when i won't need 1.4 i can use it at a more civilized (;)) 4 or 5.6 outdoors.
if the lens is any good i think it might be perfect to carry with me all the time, on the r4a.

joe

[back alley]

ok then...let's talk about the m8 or m9...

[sweathog]

Woo M8!
Sorry, just had to say that.
From the little information I've gleaned it looks cracking lens (and small too).

will a 35/1.4 be harder to use on the r4a than the other bessas? is it too fast for the ebl of the r4?

my assumption is that it might be tougher to focus at up close distances, wide open. so if i rarely move in THAT close but stick to my 4 to 6 foot away photo taking position i should be ok. and having that 1.4 will be nice for those early winter morning through the local farmer's market strolls. for those times when i won't need 1.4 i can use it at a more civilized (;)) 4 or 5.6 outdoors.



From what you say you seem to have pretty much decided that yes, it will be tricky focusing close, but that won't be an issue. You've already sold yourself that lens haven't you?
Just one question: MC or SC?

[back alley]

already paid for it too!

mc or sc...even stephen doesn't know that yet ;)

joe

[ferider]

It will probably be too fast wide open, at .7m on the R4*.

But at infinity, everything will be in focus ! :)

[Keith]

Look on the bright side Joe ... the M8 threads seem to be a little less savage than they have been in past times! :p

I think you must be getting commission on the new Voigtlander ... but there's no way I'm getting one ... I've just snatched a 1.2 Nokton from the classifieds and I like the fact that it's big. This is a big country and we like our lenses this way! :)

[back alley]

It will probably be too fast wide open, at .7m on the R4*.

But at infinity, everything will be in focus ! :)


so, if i interpret this correctly...you think i should be getting an r2a also then?

joe

[back alley]

Look on the bright side Joe ... the M8 threads seem to be a little less savage than they have been in past times! :p

I think you must be getting commission on the new Voigtlander ... but there's no way I'm getting one ... I've just snatched a 1.2 Nokton from the classifieds and I like the fact that it's big. This is a big country and we like our lenses this way! :)


no commission keith, just thinking about a nice small & fast 35...a near perfect lens for me.

congrats on the 1.2...a nice mate to your 50/1.2 canon eh?

joe

[back alley]

so, an r4a with 25 and an r2a with the new 35, what a lovely, small and light kit for strolling down the boulevard...

[back alley]

You know, your ZI will do just fine with the Nokton ;)


wrong colour...!

the rule is, minolta on minolta, zeiss on zeiss and cv on cv, makes my neurosis much easier to deal with ;)

[back alley]

besides, those grey bodies look cool...man!

joe

[back alley]

but i will try the fast 35 on the r4a first, maybe i'll be an exception to the rule.

[erikhaugsby]

Can you focus a 35 'lux on the R4a?

[back alley]

you guys are way too hung up on leicas!
i'd rather use the zi...:)

[-kk-]

Since the new Nokton is clearly a Summilux derivative..

how similar/ different is the nokton 35 to the 40 then? ive always thought lenses with same designation ie nokton share the same formula. is this not the case? the price difference between the 2 is also interesting (i think).

[Way]

I would put the 35 nokton on the ZI instead of the R4a because of the ZI's longer ebl. I'd rather be able to focus accurately. But if you plan to shoot at f4 or so then I guess the R4a is OK, but wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a fast lens?

[back alley]

i would mostly use the the lens at 1.4 for early morning shooting outdoors and some indoor shots as well. in winter here, the mornings are dark and then often dull, the extra speed would help. right now i have to up the film speed or try to hold the camera steady at 1/30 for the market shots i like to do. 1.4 will help with that.

[bobkonos]

I'm thinking it will be sweet on my formerly-back alley R4m (which I love). But then I'll have to un-subscribe to the Slow Lens Movement.

[back alley]

I'm thinking it will be sweet on my formerly-back alley R4m (which I love). But then I'll have to un-subscribe to the Slow Lens Movement.


wait!
my 35/2.5 might be 4sale in a while...

glad you're liking the r4m.
joe

[Tom A]

I have used my pre-asph Summilux 35 on the R4M without any problem - well, one small problem, I have to take the 21/4,5 off it and that is bad!
The 40mm and 35mm Nokton formulas look very much the same - except for that small flat element ahead of the second lens cluster! Wonder what it does?
I have been promised a 35/1,4 SC for this month and just to have something to compare with I have been shooting with my 35/1,4 pre-asph 'lux as a second body/camera combo (M2/Kodak XX).

[wintoid]

Hmm, I just realised there will be 2 35mm Noktons. People will say "I just got a 35 Nokton", and we'll all have to ask "what type?". I think we need to have a nickname competition for the new lens.

[-kk-]

kk,

See attachment. Best,

Roland.

thanks for that Roland. they do look very similar, and the 40 even more so to the lux. Im curious to see how well the 35 will do since its priced much higher than the 40.

(purely academic, not thinking of getting either one)

[-kk-]

errr.. given its resemblence to the the summilux... we could call it noktolux (trademark pending)? :P

Hmm, I just realised there will be 2 35mm Noktons. People will say "I just got a 35 Nokton", and we'll all have to ask "what type?". I think we need to have a nickname competition for the new lens.

[kully]

Nah, Nokton for the biggun and Nokteen for the littleun.

[Andrew Sowerby]

the rule is, minolta on minolta, zeiss on zeiss and cv on cv, makes my neurosis much easier to deal with ;)

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who feels this way ...

I've never used an R4a. Are the 35mm framelines about the size of the 50mm framelines on an R2a?


Also: I really like "Nokteen".

[jamiewakeham]

The physicist in me suggests Noktino?

I just got my 35mm Nokton; what a lens! I feel no need for the 35/1.4.

Jamie

[kuningasmikko]

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who feels this way ...

I've never used an R4a. Are the 35mm framelines about the size of the 50mm framelines on an R2a?


Also: I really like "Nokteen".
You can compare viewfinder framelines on cosina's japan site, http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigt/v-camera/rangefinder/index.html

Just choose the camera model and you'll find the viewfinder pics.

Regads,

Mikko

[sebastel]

i like both "nokteen" and "noktino".

from a different thread: (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=742604&postcount=35)

I have seen a comparison of both lenses (35 Summilux pre and the new CV 35/1.4 SC) in a Japanese camera magazine yesterday. In the article, two example shots were shown, both were taken at f/1.4 with an M8 in BW, the subject was a young lady in front of trees at daylight (high contrast). Whereas the Summilux showed some softness and a smooth bokeh, the CV was much sharper but also showed higher contrast. The bokeh of the CV was simply ugly, swirly and harsh.

In a different magazine the CV 35/1.4 MC was compared to the Summilux 35 pre. In this comparison, two photos - taken at night against strong point light sources - both at f/1.4 were shown. (Don't remember the camera) Here the Summilux showed some flare but the CV (MC) handled the strong highlights very well.


i'd like to see those comparisons ... (curious me).

[back alley]

I have used my pre-asph Summilux 35 on the R4M without any problem - well, one small problem, I have to take the 21/4,5 off it and that is bad!
The 40mm and 35mm Nokton formulas look very much the same - except for that small flat element ahead of the second lens cluster! Wonder what it does?
I have been promised a 35/1,4 SC for this month and just to have something to compare with I have been shooting with my 35/1,4 pre-asph 'lux as a second body/camera combo (M2/Kodak XX).

ah, the voice of experience!
thanks tom, i look forward to trying the new 35 on my r4a.

joe

[back alley]

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who feels this way ...

I've never used an R4a. Are the 35mm framelines about the size of the 50mm framelines on an R2a?


Also: I really like "Nokteen".


we are not alone!

:)