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ray*j*gun
01-17-2008, 08:51
Does anyone know how to determine the age of a Fed or Zorki based on the number of the camera?
Thanks
Ray
95-97% of Zorkis since 1955 have serial number with two first digits indicationg the year of production.
Exceptions:
- pre-55 production (Zorki-1 mostly, Zorki-3 even of 1954 production have two digits indication, I got such camera of 1954 production) with through order of serials
- Anniversary models
- Small production units
- Out of serial order production parties
almost all FEDs from 1934 till c. 1983-86 have through order of serials.
www.fedka.com has a table of first FED models serials. Otherwise, show your camera.
Fed's do not appear to follow a consistent pattern. Very difficult to pin down. I think with Zorkis the first 2 digits of the serial# are the year of manufacture, but I'm not certain of that.
Otherwise, show your camera.
I'm curious so here's mine.
Fed-2A Type 2C (least what I was told by the guy I got it from)
http://www.karlblessing.com/shares/fed/fed1.jpg
And another angle, next to a Fed-2C I had until a few months ago.
http://www.karlblessing.com/shares/fed/fed2.jpg
Bottom picture:
To the right is FED-2 made in 1955
To the left FED-2 made between 1958 and 1963, let`s say it is 1960 -)))
Bottom picture:
To the right is FED-2 made in 1955
To the left FED-2 made between 1958 and 1963, let`s say it is 1960 -)))
Least now I know the approximate years. I sold the Fed-2C on the left a while back, I kept the Fed-2A on the right since it "felt" nicer to me, though the guy who sold me both considers the 2C to be a much nicer one. I thought it mighta been 50s on the one on the right, but wasn't sure when.
I guess the Fed-2A I use as a backup to my Canon P is older than my P :P.
Out of curiousity, how do you figure the year on them, do you just generally know when they made the models?
Presice year you can only learn from counting serial number in comparison to total production of this variation.
In general yes.
Princelle`s book + G. Abramov`s site.
As you can see - I edited my message. Firstly I wrote: Left FED was made in 1961, then after сonsulting with Princelle`s book I changed year to 1960. You can take this answer, or change it to 1959 after playing with serials.
Presice year you can only learn from counting serial number in comparison to total production of this variation.
In general yes.
Princelle`s book + G. Abramov`s site.
As you can see - I edited my message. Firstly I wrote: Left FED was made in 1961, then after сonsulting with Princelle`s book I changed year to 1960. You can take this answer, or change it to 1959 after playing with serials.
Good to know.
Round the store we usually use the McKeown's Cameras book, but thats normally to identify or semi-value something that comes in. Then top that off with eBay when we figure out what variation the camera is.
I guess one thing is for certain though, the serial numbers do not seem to be nearly as consistant or documented as well as say Rolleiflex and Leicas. But matters not if the cheap commie crap, I mean fine soviet wormanship still works :D
ray*j*gun
01-17-2008, 11:41
Thanks all......Fedka.com had the numbers with the years of production for Feds. I have a 1940'ish Fed Id which as Karl just said is great "as long as it still works"....
Ray
Thanks all......Fedka.com had the numbers with the years of production for Feds. I have a 1940'ish Fed Id which as Karl just said is great "as long as it still works"....
Ray
I had the luxery of getting mine from a guy who owned over 40 of them, 2/3rd of which were bad that he used as parts to recondition and tweak the other good ones. I can't remember his name, but he basically fixed my 2A right up before sending it off to me, he also made a comment bout how some Feds were serviced by tank technicians that wound the tension up so hard that it sounds like a rat trap going off.
I was reluctant to get one in the past cuz most places I looked they were generally the same price as the shipping, and no real assurance if they worked or not. You'd almost have to buy 3 before getting a 4th good one (as that one guy also confirming). I felt it safer to buy from actual users as I did with both of the above and sold the 2C to another user whom I hope is enjoying it.
I would be interested in seeing a picture of your Fed-1d if you get time.
here is the answer for fed 2 serial numbers
(1955-1956) 008*** - 115*** (type A w/o flash sync, w/o selftimer)
(1956-1957) 136*** - 437*** (type B with sync, w/o selftimer)
(1958-1960) 480*** - 868*** (type C1 with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob)
(1958-1963) 1114*** - 2330*** (type C2 with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob, new speeds, name in cyrillic)
(1963-1969) 2381*** - 9911*** A026*** - A087*** (type C3 and D with sync, with selftimer, mushroom knob, new speeds)
more on this here
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51937
ray*j*gun
01-19-2008, 11:49
Thanks all!!
THe pic attached is from the Fedka web site.
Ray
Florian1234
01-19-2008, 12:30
(1956-1957) 136*** - 437*** (type B with sync, w/o selftimer)
So my camera (green/alu body) is from that time frame, having a 307*** serial.:)
timmyd18
02-13-2008, 18:11
Thank you all, this thread has been really helpful
My first FED-2 arrived from Russia today, and I'm pretty amazed by it. There's just something beautiful about a 50 year old Soviet camera being able to work with a 35mm cartridge that says "Return to Wal Mart"
My camera's serial number is 280091, which according to this site makes it a Fed 2B. This makes sense because there is no self timer.
That being said, looking at the pictures of FED 2B's on this site:
http://www.commiecameras.com/sov/35mmrangefindercameras/cameras/fed/index.htm
I notice several differences. First, my camera has no markings on the top except for the script FED. Even the little arrow for the film selector is missing, there is a little red dot inside the hub to select the speed Second, my case has two snaps, whereas this site says it should have one.
Does anyone else have a camera like this, or can tell me why it seems different?
http://gaviota2.com/fed/IMGP5818.JPG
http://www.gaviota2.com/fed/IMGP5816.JPG
http://www.gaviota2.com/fed/IMGP5817.JPG
timmyd18
02-13-2008, 18:16
also, no political statement intended with the Huckabee book on my desk- I was just a curious member of the party that opposes him trying to find out more
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