Have You Ever Clicked "Gallery" ? [Archive]

ruben

11-19-2007, 22:24

I am furious with myself. Which is not so bad from time to time, provided due proportions are mantained. But on this one I feel like an IDIOT. My only hope is that out there - there may be other folks thinking of me worse so that in fact I may be making myself a positive discount.

We are being discussing how to promo imagery, some of us having bitter and unnecessary clashes with the authorities about the Random Gallery, we submitted ideas about front page buttons, and blah blah blah.

On the other hand Jon Claremont has been active and consistent in submitting a weekly post called "Weekly Picks", which among so many screws and auctions, I started to follow last month.

Yesterday upon looking at that thread, renewed, I felt a desire to take part in the thread, a healthy move requiring me first to review the whoole weekly uploading.

Therefore I asked via PM Jon - How do you select all the pics every one submitted for the last week, and he refered me to some right hand lower selection among "1day", "7 days", "14 days"....

I didn't understood Jon explanation. But he was right, He just assumed that for once in my life I clicked "Gallery" on the upper bar of the front page. Which I didn't until yesterday.

It happens. Sorry.

In case you haven't too, let me promo this wonderfull link, which since Yesterday is among "my favourites", contanining a lot of additional info about the imagery circulation at RFF.

Finally I congratulate both Jon and all other folks which have maintained the "Gallery Picks Week Ending....."
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=682113#post682113

As usual, and rather unsual, daily life is determined very much by initiatives from below. Thanks Jon for your insistence, your initiative, and I think your efforts will find more and more eco with more time.

I firmly believe it. The "Galley" link and the Weekly Pick thread are a great combination which cannot but win.

I, am recruited.

Cheers,
Ruben

nzeeman

11-19-2007, 23:52

and how did you watched galeries if you didnt click on gallery. i ask because i dont know any other way to the galleries.

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 01:17

From what I understand now Ruben didn't know that we have a Gallery here.

We he sent me a message asking how to filter photos from just the last 7 days I told him where to find the link in the Gallery under the thumbnails.

Evidently Ruben found out how to get to the Gallery from the main page, because an hour later he had contributed to the Gallery Picks thread.

So all is well, and the best news is we have another member looking in the Gallery regularly and sounding very positive about contributing to Gallery Picks.

ruben

11-20-2007, 01:54

My lawyer urges me to state that I did viewed other members pics, just not using the "Gallery" lynk.

Cheers,
Ruben

lZr

11-20-2007, 01:57

Oh yes, Jon. You are very serious about, but I want more memebers to upload images in the Gallery and only 1 per day - not 5 or 6 image in sequence , so we have the time to review ths stuff on first page. Also, we talked about selecting an image per week and expose it on main page for some time, but Mr Gandy skiped the thread, I think

ruben

11-20-2007, 02:09

My lawyer urges me to state that I did viewed other members pics, just not using the "Gallery" lynk.

Cheers,
Ruben

Yet my prosecutor answers that for a photographer not giving attention to detail.... hummm

Cheers,
Ruben

PS\
Now that I am updated I will write a small and better proposal for improvement at the 'Kettle" thread

sfb_dot_com

11-20-2007, 03:32

I think the mitigating circumstances might be that it's actually quite difficult to find. I would class myself as a fairly frequent visitor to the Galleries, and even after your post, it still took me a couple of minutes to find the 1day, 7day etc picks.

Overall I find the Galleries not the best place to look at pictures as there are too many distracting elements on the page. However, every now and then I still get that 'tingle' when I see an image I really like, which inevitably spurs me on to do some more of my own stuff.

Regards

Andy

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 03:38

Oh yes, Jon. You are very serious about, but I want more memebers to upload images in the Gallery and only 1 per day - not 5 or 6 image in sequence

I agree, be able to upload one photo only, and then be stopped from uploading another for six (?) hours.

Were you a member here when some people paid a fee to upload 25 photos a day. Some of them took full advantage of it! Thankfully that scheme was stopped.

jolefler

11-20-2007, 04:41

to head to the gallery a couple of times daily. The slide show feature lets me see 'em all fairly rapidly, then return for the details.

I have to second the thought of limiting successive photo uploads. Really, some of the shooters would benefit from some editing, and a different style/subject in consecutive photos makes the good shots stand out better.

The gallery feature is absolutely inspirational. It leads me to better photo vision. I'd love to see the pic of the week make the home page for a week or so, I think it would both recognise the shooter's prowess and help get a feel for what those qualified to judge photos look for.

oscroft

11-20-2007, 05:05

I frequently check the Gallery link. And I also don't much like the idea of restricting the images people can post - it sounds counter-productive to the aim of getting the forum more image-centric. I'd say just let people post as much as is reasonable in terms of site storage and bandwidth usage.

What I don't do often enough is comment on people's photos - I know I like it when I get comments on my own submissions. So that's my resolution - whenever I see something I particularly like about a photo, I'll comment and say so.

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 05:11

Making the site more image oriented would also include more people making comments on photos in the Gallery. There's often a great photo there without one single well-considered comment.

Edit: The post above wasn't there when I started.

bsdunek

11-20-2007, 05:31

Five images per day is not bad, but I agree with others that less is counter productive.
I look at the gallery every day, and often find several images that inspire me. I'm trying to do less with the mechanics/equipment and more with the artistic side of photography. I also encourage more imagery, but not at the expense of the equipment side. Just IMHO :cool:

lZr

11-20-2007, 05:33

Uploading 5 or 6 images in sequence makes no sense, if you look carefuly, because the photog uploads same idea with minor changes. Also, if I want my best, I must be more criticaly oriented. Uploading 1 image/day gives me opportunity to review the last images uploaded on the first page

Yes, Jon, but my 3 stars membership ended before a month

eric

11-20-2007, 05:39

We have a gallery?! I thought this was just an equipment hording forum :)

shadowfox

11-20-2007, 07:32

We have a gallery?! I thought this was just an equipment hording forum :)

Not quite, we're a gear hoarding AND philosophy of photography forum

... apparently. :)

sfb_dot_com

11-20-2007, 07:41

I do think the idea of more comment and discussion on photos is a good one. We do however need to avoid the whole sycophancy thing which pervades Flickr. One photo discussion board, I forget which, has a system of rewards for contributors who comment on images which does seem to work.

OurManInTangier

11-20-2007, 07:47

I'm slightly surprised anyone missed the Galleries - its the first place I go, then to the forums for a bit whilst constantly checking back throughout the day.

With regard to daily uploading. I agree with Sitemistic in principle that it is not a good idea to impose limits on people and discourage those that may wish to use the gallery as a learning tool - something I think most of us do no matter how good we are or think we are. However, I would hope that people realise that posting eight images of the same coffee mug from a slightly different angle won't benefit anybody as people will just not look at them all, especially those who 'dial-up.'

When I first came to RFF in late Oct last year I uploaded a number of images each day, I believe five was the max, not all of them were viewed as there was just so much traffic. With no comments made you may find you learn nothing, with one or two images uploaded you may find - as I did, that people stop, observe and leave comments. I love to get positive comments on my images and am equally happy when someone leaves me a well thought out negative comment...or constructive criticism as it all helps...and you can always ignore the lot and plough your own furrow regardless if you wish!

I say simply, get thee to the Gallery my boy! Enjoy!!

jolefler

11-20-2007, 08:05

A time/number upload limit isn't unreasonable. I'm not savvy enough to know the mechanics of a forum like this, but it CAN'T be an altruistic effort not costing anyone any time/effort per bandwidth unit!

I'm retired, but still with not enough time or technical means and prowess for uploading gallery images. My thanks to those that do, however! You're helping me!

Jo

RayPA

11-20-2007, 08:33

From what I understand now Ruben didn't know that we have a Gallery here....

But Ruben has uploaded photos to the Gallery. :confused:

in the absence of a random gallery. i think members should get in the habit of adding links to their galleries in their signature, even better, links to specific albums or specific photos (here or elsewhere). The more you post (participate) the more likely your gallery gets a click. ;)

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back alley

11-20-2007, 08:48

nico

11-20-2007, 09:01

The gallery is a public space and some restriction for the number of photos that can be posted daily seems quite reasonable to me and make the place appealing and comfortable for everybody. I do prefer to see 100 photos each one from a different member than 100 from the same ... but that's just my personal taste. I do post 1 photo, at least, each day and I find it an helpful exercise when it comes to choosing and selecting photos but, then again, it's just my taste!
About the Weekly picks I don't think it's - as it is now - any sort of competition but it's a different way to approach the gallery (read photos posted that week), and it's by the point of view of other members (sometimes I realized that I was going to miss or undervalue some great shot).
Just my 2 cents,
ciao

nzeeman

11-20-2007, 09:14

But Ruben has uploaded photos to the Gallery. :confused:
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that is what confused me also - i know i watched rubens photos before in his gallery.

also i noticed that in last few months photos have less views than they had when i became member. maybe the reason for that was the zeiss ikon competition that was going on that year so everybody was more into galleries.

ruben

11-20-2007, 09:36

I ever knew there is a RFF Gallery, and accessed it.

But the link "Gallery" at the front page I happened to ignore, I don't know why or how. I think I was too used to access others pics through the Random Gallery at the front page, and afterwards when it dissapeared I was in a kind of limbo, accessing particular photographer through the "My Gallery" at the end of the posts.

The important think for me is that this front page is very well designed and I am extremely happy to have found it.

Cheers,
Ruben

Bingley

11-20-2007, 10:38

This is a great thread, and I commend Ruben for starting it. Perhaps his inner prosecutor will recommend a light sentence! ;)

Although I've been visiting the Gallery off of the main page, not to mention uploading to it fairly often, I had not paid attention the filters until Jon mentioned them in response to Ruben's post.

I am in the process of reorganizing my gallery photos into albums, and also re-thinking how I've been uploading photos. While I think the daily limits on uploads are reasonable, I am coming over to the thinking of Nico and others that one should limit oneself to one upload at a time, or per day. I've learned the hard way that, when I upload 3-4 photos at a time, only the last upload of the group is displayed on the page w/ "recent photos." Like a lot of other posters, I really appreciate comments (and not just positive) on individual photos, so by uploading more than one at a time I may have actually discouraged folks from viewing, let along commenting, on my shots (of course, they may have seen them and ran screaming from the room).

So I think there's some good advice being offered in the posts above, as well as encouragement to make better use of the Gallery resource we already have at this site. And, again, hats off to Jon and the others who make the Weekly Pics such a worthwhile thread!

OurManInTangier

11-20-2007, 10:41

for all concerned with the lack of photos, when was the last time you clicked on my flickr link, or anyone elses for that matter?
when was the last time you left a comment on someone's photos?

some claim that a forum is nothing without it's members and that the members do most of the contributing and make a forum what it is.
what have you contributed lately? i mean besides complaints?
joe

Joe I'm not sure that anyone in this thread has really made a complaint have they? From what I can gather, and certainly the intended vibe of my post in this thread, is that this is a thread thats commending and giving praise to the gallery, its users and the people that make it available to us. There is a general discussion within this about whether the users, rather than mods or head honcho, should think about restricting their daily uploads but I think most agree its not the be all and end all, simply an idea for the gallery users to think about.

I have a Flickr link in my sig and have no idea how many people click on it to have a look, probably not many. I tend to click on peoples RFF links simply because I'm using this site at the time. If they don't have an RFF link I will probably follow whatever link they do have, incl personal websites. In all honesty though I tend to do this when I've seen an image in the gallery that I like and I wish to see more of their photographs. Sometimes they'll refer to an image of theirs in a thread and suggest I take a look and I will.

I don't wish to troll, flame or any other internet phrase that I don't quite understand - I just wondered why you felt this was relatively negative when I thought it was a very positive thread.

If I've missed a negative post or misunderstood your post ( very possible after a long day at work!) I apologise.

Cheers

back alley

11-20-2007, 11:00

Joe I'm not sure that anyone in this thread has really made a complaint have they? From what I can gather, and certainly the intended vibe of my post in this thread, is that this is a thread thats commending and giving praise to the gallery, its users and the people that make it available to us. There is a general discussion within this about whether the users, rather than mods or head honcho, should think about restricting their daily uploads but I think most agree its not the be all and end all, simply an idea for the gallery users to think about.

I have a Flickr link in my sig and have no idea how many people click on it to have a look, probably not many. I tend to click on peoples RFF links simply because I'm using this site at the time. If they don't have an RFF link I will probably follow whatever link they do have, incl personal websites. In all honesty though I tend to do this when I've seen an image in the gallery that I like and I wish to see more of their photographs. Sometimes they'll refer to an image of theirs in a thread and suggest I take a look and I will.

I don't wish to troll, flame or any other internet phrase that I don't quite understand - I just wondered why you felt this was relatively negative when I thought it was a very positive thread.

If I've missed a negative post or misunderstood your post ( very possible after a long day at work!) I apologise.

Cheers

perhaps i need to re-read the entire thread again.
i saw a couple of what looked like smart ass remarks, those under the wire kind of low key comments that really piss me off and that might have been the trigger.

i also thought that people make so many complaints about this site and make so many suggestions about how to 'improve' things here and i wonder how much attention to detail they pay before making recommendations.

i admit to being short tempered around here lately.
that whole exodus thing was a turn off, being bad mouthed by people who then return here after exodus closes down and either pretend nothing nasty was said or happened & continue to complain after proving they know nothing about moderating a forum.

i have been doing this for many years now and some of the people here are getting harder and harder to take.

i appreciate the tone of your post, it's refreshing to deal with an honest and direct person as opposed to those who offer only cheap shots.
joe

Dektol Dan

11-20-2007, 11:01

I only load images in the gallery for the sake of lens/film comparisons all made at the same shoot, so others might see the 'look' of particular lens or film. I save my 'art' for my own web page.

If I am testing 3 lens I try to limit the space to five images per lens, the maximum upload. A couple of days ago I started my upload of new landscape shots done with a 28 Biogon @$700, a 3.5 Summaron @$200, and a 24 Zuiko @$80, but so far they aren't listed in any daily sequence in the gallery. I think I'm wasting my time. I plan to revamp my web page and move the whole performance over there.

Limiting me to 1 picture a day shoots the whole idea down. RFF is becoming more a club of old ladies and hobbyists than something useful to dedicated photographers.

Clearly my interests don't match those of others here. It's time to move on.

nico

11-20-2007, 11:38

RFF is becoming more a club of old ladies and hobbyists than something useful to dedicated photographers.

What the sense of this statement? what the contribution to the discussion?
may you explain better please?
cheers,
M.me Nico

ruben

11-20-2007, 11:41

...............
i also thought that people make so many complaints about this site and make so many suggestions about how to 'improve' things here and i wonder how much attention to detail they pay before making recommendations...........

joe

Not only I happened to ignore the "Gallery" link, but also some posts in which Stephen said the Random Gallery will not come back.

Clicking on the Gallery link and viewing the first page provoked in me a great pleasure, which I state here for the fourth time (twice before on this thread, once on the Kettle thread, and now). It is very well organized and designed. So I guess this is a great score for the management.

On the other hand the people around the weekly picks, are maintaining the dish hot, and are an example of good initiave by the workers.

Management and workers hammering each one towards the same target - this is the wining formula. Stephen has been very wise in sounding public opinion regarding imagery and how to improve it, and even more wise in skipping some erroneous posts.

RFF has turned very wide, varyied, crowded for good with many new features. People get confused, and will continue. We all will learn from our mistakes and push this great website forwards.

Cheers,
Ruben

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 11:47

but so far they aren't listed in any daily sequence in the gallery. I think I'm wasting my time.

Have you looked into creating Albums within your personal Gallery space?

I have many Albums including 'After Dark', 'Dire Straits', and 'With People'. We all organize our photos differently: so you may have '28mm lenses', '35mm lenses' and so on.

Try clicking on 'RFF Gallery' in my signature below and see how it works, then perhaps you can make the Gallery work for you in the way that you want it to.

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 11:57

perhaps i need to re-read the entire thread again.

Yes, I just did exactly that and found how much people enjoy the Gallery, but a few hadn't known how to get the best out of it.

back alley

11-20-2007, 12:10

ruben, i do appreciate your positive contributions to rff, honestly.

it's hard, in one post or even a thread, to single out the complainers from the positive contributors.

even harder for me sometimes is controlling myself when i feel like screaming around here.
i have become way too sensitive to the negativity and maybe too callous to the good stuff.

time to clear my palate...

joe

ferider

11-20-2007, 12:28

On the frontpage of RFF we currently have the following threads:

On streets of Tel Aviv...
New Summarit Lenses
Why Rangefinder
M8 should only be shot in raw mode?
Epson Japan support?
M8 on cover of "Outside" Magazine's gift guide
Summicron 90/2 vs 90/2 APO ASPH.
what 35 mm
how should the focusing feel???
Gotta Love G2 Glass for Resolution
Bessa R 2 S lens mounting problem
Troubleshooting, con't; Scans
"Just snappin' some pics?": What street photography is for me

Have You Ever Clicked "Gallery" ?
Opening the kettle (long post) (open discussion)

This is very typical: except for the last two threads, only two
photography-related threads with very minimal participation.

Just a thought: maybe it's time to embrace what RFF is and make it
fun instead of keep beating a dead horse .... Or start and participate
in photography threads instead of re-hashing how we could change things ?

Roland.

robert blu

11-20-2007, 13:26

when I not travelling i join the forum everyday and each time I visit the gallery. Try always to leave a comment on the photo I find interesting. In the last weeks I had not so much time and found the weekly pics very usefull to see, at least a few interesting pictures.
rob

back alley

11-20-2007, 13:37

RayPA

11-20-2007, 14:54

Just a thought: maybe it's time to embrace what RFF is and make it
fun instead of keep beating a dead horse .... Or start and participate
in photography threads instead of re-hashing how we could change things ?

well, there is always that...

joe

dang, joe. your really being a party-pooper here. :) I didn't see this as a rehash thread at all. If anything it seems more like another Gallery advertisement thread, generated in the spirit of getting folks more involved in the Gallery. It's obviously a tongue-in-cheek ploy (of course we've all seen the 'Gallery' link on the front page;) --some members just don't click it!:bang: ).

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back alley

11-20-2007, 14:56

that's ferider's quote, i was quoting him.

joe

ferider

11-20-2007, 14:58

Yes, Ray, Poop's from me. :)

RayPA

11-20-2007, 15:01

Yes, Ray, Poop's from me. :)

joe and roland, I apologize for putting poop and tongue-in-cheek in the same post. :p

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jolefler

11-20-2007, 15:29

but since hot shot artists & PJ's are spouting off, I'll skip the BS & head to the gallery. The talent is in the pics there, not in their own mind and caustic tongues.

Joe, I dunno how you do it! :bang:

Jo

ferider

11-20-2007, 17:18

What happened to Blake, BTW. Hasn't posted in a week ....

Roland.

Bingley

11-20-2007, 17:35

Ya know, this thread started w/ a confession by Ruben involving the use of the Gallery, to which Jon responded w/ some info that some of us found really useful for our visits to the Gallery in the future. But it seems to have morphed into another RFF gripe session. That's too bad (IMVHO). Must be the weather....:confused:

Is it Miller Time, gents? :)

ClaremontPhoto

11-20-2007, 21:40

OurManInTangier

11-21-2007, 00:18

Most mornings (using the 1 Day filter) there are three pages of uploads.

Today there are seven pages.

Thank you for starting this thread Ruben. In itself it seems to have excited interest in the Gallery.
Well done Jon, lets steer this veering ship back to the safe shores of The Gallery where we started!

I think the gallery is very well set-up to accomplish most things. I, like Jon, have a number of albums plus a more random section of images in my member gallery ( no jokes please.) I find the flexibility excellent and extremely useful when I do get the chance to take a look at somebody else's gallery. The use of albums, for instance, allows me to place images on a similar topic or that fit well together in the one place. This not only allows someone browsing my gallery to decide whether they wish to view that particular album or not but also stops the main page becoming off putting with 80 pages of images. With albums you can allow viewers to dip in and out.

Dektol - I'm surprised you don't tend to use Flickr for the kind of testing you talk about, I say this simply as Flickr seems to have a group for everything and would seem to me a good place to interact with others you wish to view the information you provide. The 'Recent Images' gallery may not be the best place for them to be displayed generally as there is a lot of traffic. If as Jon suggests you try an album and then place a link to them in your sig you may find you get alot of interest. I've just bought a Carl Zeiss Planar 50 ZM f2 and would have loved to see some lens comparison tests of it here before I purchased ( obviously you may not have done such a test or be interested in such but the idea is still a worthy one.) I hope you find a way to make RFF work for you.

Ruben - I think you've done a very positive thing in starting this thread, it seems about time that we start looking at what we have got and making the most of it, that's not to say needlessly slapping ourselves on the back - simply using what we have to its maximum potential.

Damn it! I dropped a stitch!!Knit one, pearl one, knit one, pearl one

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 03:37

Damn it! I dropped a stitch!!Knit one, pearl one, knit one, pearl one

Try looking at 'Real Men Knit':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYa_rJyG18

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 03:59

Another few ways to get the best out of the Gallery:

There is a choice at 'Want to be notified by email when users post replies?' set to No every time you upload. Change it to Yes and you'll receive emails with nice comments.

Similarly if you comment on somebody else's photo it's possible to receive emails of other people's comments after yours. Look under any photo and see the 'Receive Email updates' link.

(Could that default No behavior in the upload page be changed to default Yes behavior? It might promote imagery if some people don't know it's there and aren't using it.)

OurManInTangier

11-21-2007, 05:36

2) Hardly ever anybody cared to look at my gallery. So no big loss.

I think this is a problem with our gallery, though it may be more of a problem with those of us that use it. All too often my visit to the gallery stops at that, I pop in and out of the site, take a quick view of recently posted images (while trying to cover the period of time since I last looked) and hopefully find a few images that I'd like to comment on and then I'm off again.

I should, and I know I should, view peoples galleries far more often as I would get to see far more of their view of the world...and probably get some great ideas as a result.

I imagine that the majority of us do just that, we may also be guilty of using the gallery for others to view our work far more than as an opportunity to few a body of work by others.

I'll make myself a little promise that I'll try to keep; simply to view one persons full gallery everyday that I visit RFF...and starting with those members work that I'm not familiar with.

Its a shame that you've deleted your images Gabriel, I'll have to check your sig for a personal website or Flickr type thing so I can see some more of your excellent colour work that caught my eye recently.

OurManInTangier

11-21-2007, 05:39

Try looking at 'Real Men Knit':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jYa_rJyG18

I may have to grow a good sized beard too:D

RayPA

11-21-2007, 05:44

...I deleted all my photos from the gallery.
....

I did that once. It took the better part of an afternoon to do it, which points to your #1. Oops now I'm pooping too.

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nico

11-21-2007, 07:56

Sorry guys but I don't find Gabriel's post ... did he delete it?
thanks

Bingley

11-21-2007, 08:00

Sorry guys but I don't find Gabriel's post ... did he delete it?

I was wondering the same thing. I see that he deleted all the photos from his Gallery.

shadowfox

11-21-2007, 08:05

Just a thought: maybe it's time to embrace what RFF is and make it
fun instead of keep beating a dead horse .... Or start and participate
in photography threads instead of re-hashing how we could change things ?

well, there is always that...

joe

Joe, if it's any consolation, I have been trying to do that. Please join me and others to celebrate film photography with... pictures :)

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50008

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 08:58

Sorry guys but I don't find Gabriel's post ... did he delete it?
thanks

It was certainly here a few hours back, about three or four posts above yours.

ferider

11-21-2007, 09:14

I did that once. It took the better part of an afternoon to do it, which points to your #1. Oops now I'm pooping too.

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Ray, the trick to make this faster is to put them in an album, you can
delete entire albums with one click. After I found out I started posting
pics again.

I hope we are not loosing Gabriel, one of my favorite photographers at RFF.

Roland.

back alley

11-21-2007, 09:20

Joe, if it's any consolation, I have been trying to do that. Please join me and others to celebrate film photography with... pictures :)

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50008

again, it's not my quote, i was quoting ferider.
not that it shoudn't be considered...
joe

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 09:24

How did we get from there to here?

We started talking about the positive side of the Gallery, and now we're giving advice on how to mass-delete photos from the Gallery!

ferider

11-21-2007, 09:31

How did we get from there to here?

We started talking about the positive side of the Gallery, and now we're giving advice on how to mass-delete photos from the Gallery!

OK, enjoy yourself. My last post in this thread.

Gabriel M.A.

11-21-2007, 09:32

I was wondering the same thing. I see that he deleted all the photos from his Gallery.
I haven't deleted any posts of mine. Only the photos. So, if you see any other weird behaviour on posts being deleted, it's not me.

Moderators: feel free to move my comment elsewhere and edit my comment saying so, rather than just nuking it. Fans "flames" further due to others' confusion.

RayPA

11-21-2007, 12:17

I haven't deleted any posts of mine. Only the photos. So, if you see any other weird behaviour on posts being deleted, it's not me.

Moderators: feel free to move my comment elsewhere and edit my comment saying so, rather than just nuking it. Fans "flames" further due to others' confusion.

OK...if someone deleted your post because of the content, THAT's really lame.

How did we get from there to here?

We started talking about the positive side of the Gallery, and now we're giving advice on how to mass-delete photos from the Gallery!

LOL! Good point. However, Roland's suggestion is just a simple workaround for using the Gallery. It's no secret, Jon, that the Gallery here isn't the easiest to use (numerous threads attest to that). Roland's tip is a good one, because I don't use this gallery as storage for my images, so I've no intention on keeping my images posted here indefinitely (I've got two paid-accounts elsewhere for that). In fact, I refrain from posting, and have been trying to keep my total image count to no more than 3 pages so that I won't have to endure an hour of deleting each image one_by_one_by_one_by_one.

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John Robertson

11-21-2007, 12:21

A poll might be interesting to see what percentage of members use the gallery regularly!

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 12:45

It's no secret, Jon, that the Gallery here isn't the easiest to use (numerous threads attest to that).

I agree 100%.

It's not just the Gallery... The whole site needs a good seeing to by somebody who knows what's what.

Why, for example, are there two links to Forums in the same navigation?

Why do we have to select 'Yes' to get email updates of comments on our photos. It should be the default setting.

Why can't we see any photos at all on the main page, except some old cameras for sale? I don't want to buy an old camera. I do want to see a photo by Swann, or OurManInTangier, or cathytoth.ca and so on, or best of all some person I've never seen before. It doesn't need to be a random photo, it could be a photo of the day.

Don't get me wrong. I like the site a lot. But it takes a lot of working out.

Remember just a few days ago, Ruben, a longstanding member couldn't work out how to get to the Gallery... That says it all. Yesterday we had more than twice as many Gallery uploads as we'd usually see on a weekday. Is that because others were 'lurking' and learned how to get to the Gallery and how to use it too?

With the level of membership we have here now (much higher than when I joined two years ago) and the level of advertising of high end products we should have seen an evolution of the site too.

I'll enthuse over the photos, and now and then dip into the technology, but I get frustrated with the user interface and site design all the time.

Rant over.

Dektol Dan

11-21-2007, 13:12

Well, I guess I'm blocked from the gallery.
So shut my mouth!!!! I must have been a very bad boy again!

ClaremontPhoto

11-21-2007, 13:44

Dektol Dan:

There's a lot at RFF that needs fixing, and I'm upfront telling Stephen (and 'George' before him) about that.

But there's a lot here that's very very good indeed.

What would you like to see in RFF to promote imagery, within our existing technology?

Gabriel M.A.

11-21-2007, 17:03

What would you like to see in RFF to promote imagery, within our existing technology?
The fostering of a sense of community. A "Talk to the hand" attitude does not help with that.

Gabriel M.A.

11-21-2007, 17:10

OK...if someone deleted your post because of the content, THAT's really lame.
::shrug::

At least you can put it back together by seeing two people quoting me:

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=683154&postcount=53

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=683160&postcount=55

So at least those didn't get deleted.

An undocumented PHP function bug? :eek:

Edit: fixed links.

ruben

11-22-2007, 03:30

Hi Gabriel,

I am among those who never saw your gallery, but once I did have the opportunity to see a great image from you at one of the threads I entered. It seems to me that RFF is trying to recover now from some kind of "imagery cold" it got with the switching of ownership.

This recovery is gaining momentum.

Although we hadn't the opportunity to acquint each other at the threads more closely, I notice that since you joined RFF at 2005 you have posted some 5500 posts. This alone speaks about you.

Both moderators and members seem to suffer from time to time from a kind of tiredness frustration, or frustrating tyredness, which comes naturally due to our high emotional involvement. At such situations we may tend to see only the negative trees and skeep the forest.

So, perhaps you could have a short rest if needed, and have a fresh restart concerning the image upload, to join forces with all other members doing their best to promote imagery. After all it is upon us, the members, first of all. No one has ever told me don't post this image, or don't discuss it, etc.

The past is over, for good or for bad, but it is over. Give yourself and us a new opportunity for all of us, you included, to benefit from. It will be a real pitty to loose the images from a photographer of your skill, or for this case any member giving up out of frustration.

It is my deep feeling that RFF is a great website, very dynamic and continuously changing. Like you I am here since 2005 and have seen a lot of good people leaving and a lot of good people entering. Have a coffee, smile to yourself. Not every one is able to do what you do.

Cheers,
Ruben

PS
Now to a different issue, yet related to why I never clicked Gallery, nor saw Gabriel's gallery ever.
Beyond my explanations, there are deeper reasons.
By the 90's decade I have been professionally involved with phtography. By the beggining of the 2000 I happed to loose my way, due to several personal circumstances. By 2005 when I joined RFF I did know out there there is a great and wide world awaiting for me. But it required me a radical change of gear and mind status. I needed a lot of answers, and first of all the right questions.
Now, and I have posted it a month or two ago, I started to became image centered, instead of gear centered. And this explains the late start of my gallery, which includes only my new attitude, which I hope will sharpen and sharpen.
Upon becoming image centered, I am very hungry to see other's photos, to enrich myself. We all are a kind of world network of spyes, reporting locations, people and ways of seeing.
This doesn't mean I have lost any interest in gear, and for sure not in the general issues of photography. Just my center of attention has shifted.

Cameras are to be used. Perhaps many other folks here will go the same transformation towards the final image. In any case I first of all respect the right of all our folks to speak about whatever they like to, and it doesn't hynder me at all.

nzeeman

11-22-2007, 03:55

i dont think that many changes are needed. i like ths forum for what it is. when you need help you can ask others and get nice answers, when you feel like watching photos you can go to galleries, when you talk about new gear you can do that. i think that there is something or everyone here, and i dont think that rff shoould be only about galleries - it should be about every aspect of photography - and i think it pretty much is that.

casualuser

12-09-2007, 15:00

I am still a relative neophyte so you can take my comments lightly. I do not have a scanner so I have not posted anything nor do I know how. I like to review selected forums and visit the Gallery. There are many great images posted there. The ones I find most helpful to someone still trying to get it right are the ones where the photographer provides some ancillary information, such as time of day, general light conditions, locational information, aperature, shutter speed, film speed, etc. A good picture with no information is still a good picture. Composition doesn"t take a lot of words as the picture speaks to that, but exposure comments are always helpful, IMHO.;)