View Full Version : Who Wants to Volunteer for Salon / Image Promotion?
CameraQuest
10-21-2007, 14:20
Sure we love cameras, but some people actually look at pictures too ....
I am looking for one to four volunteers to promote the monthly salons, best 10 pics, My pics section etc. Your task would be to come up and agree upon new ideas, new projects, and to help remind the gear heads that cameras can take pics too !
The moderators and myself are open to ideas. The best way? I don't know. But I do know the mods and myself are way too busy to give image promo the attention the subject deserves.
Stephen
if you'll have me, I'll help
CameraQuest
10-21-2007, 16:18
if you'll have me, I'll help
OK, you are on.
Stephen
Great. Memphis will do a great job here.
Happy to help out - I spend most of my time in the galleries anyway - but am away a lot (all of November and January is current plan) so should only be thought of as backup if needed...
And I'll add my vote for Memphis - a very active uploader of great images - can't think of better qualifications than that :)
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 10:26
OK David,
Please get in contact with Memphis and brainstorm some ideas.
Thanks
Stephen
BillBingham2
10-22-2007, 10:29
If you’d like another noggin I would love to help.
B2 (;->
ClaremontPhoto
10-22-2007, 10:32
Can these good people look into the weekly 'Gallery Picks' thread too?
It's in the same spirit of promoting excellence in photography at RFF but does not always attract a lot of traffic.
I've submitted several ideas to promote the Salon some months ago, Stephen/Joe, remember?
I have also submitted several times suggestions for the critique forum. It is a good place to share ideas. I suggested to have an extrernal reviewer added to the list of the five people who submit images for critique. It was tried a few times.
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 10:58
I've submitted several ideas to promote the Salon some months ago, Stephen/Joe, remember?
so do you want to volunteer?
this thread is also a good place to discuss image promo ideas.
Stephen
ClaremontPhoto
10-22-2007, 11:06
this thread is also a good place to discuss image promo ideas.
Could you reinstate the random gallery images on the front page?
oftheherd
10-22-2007, 11:18
I like the idea. I would love to volunteer as a way to get me to pay more attention to the Gallery. I need to. My problem is time as with a lot of others here.
I think you have some great volunteers already. If you don't get more, I will be happy to do what I can as I like the idea. I just can't devote a lot of time right now, and for the next couple or three months.
Com'on guys and gals. Volunteer!!
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 11:38
Could you reinstate the random gallery images on the front page?
I could, but the problem is that it slows down the site way too much.
That is why they were removed from the front page. So that is a no go.
Stephen
jan normandale
10-22-2007, 12:17
I'm actively involved in two other film related endeavours, wife, family, friends, work and then a couple of charities.
Here's my contribution... check RayPA's old critique thread and his thread on photographers. Both got good responses and could be the basis for further investigation or discussion by the "new" project managers.
so do you want to volunteer?
this thread is also a good place to discuss image promo ideas.
Stephen
Count on me!
Internal promotion(here at RFF for us members) or external promotion?
Would it be possible to build something into the site that takes you through the gallery on your way to somewhere else?
For example, if one is looking at the "new posts" page and picks a post to go read, when you click on that post, you are first taken to a random image in the gallery?
And if putting a random image slows things down too much how about just a "random image" button/link?
Don't know enough of the mechanics of the site software to know if either of these ideas are "doable". Just a couple of quick thoughts.
Rob
Could you reinstate the random gallery images on the front page?
THat was a good thing. It's what drove me here at first. This site was directed at photography more then anything else.
100% with you!
I have always wondered Stephen: do you have an on-line gallery ?
Thanks,
Roland.
THat was a good thing. It's what drove me here at first. This site was directed at photography more then anything else.
100% with you!
Would it be possible to have two front pages- one that's faster (the current one), and one that could be bookmarked and contains the random gallery images? I'm not savvy with the web stuff, so this is probably not possible.
Cheers,
Mike
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 13:41
[QUOTE=MikeL]Would it be possible to have two front pages- one that's faster (the current one), and one that could be bookmarked and contains the random gallery images? I'm not savvy with the web stuff, so this is probably not possible.
Cheers,
Mike[/QUOTE
random front page images translate into a terribly slow site.
we have tried it, it does not work.
Stephen
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 13:41
I have always wondered Stephen: do you have an on-line gallery ?
Thanks,
Roland.
sort of, it's called CameraQuest
Stephen
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 13:50
Count on me!
Excellent! maybe this would be a good time to bring up the suggestions you referred to.
Stephen
laptoprob
10-22-2007, 14:00
My Rff start page is the latest additions to the Gallery. That way I can easily stay somewhat in touch.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/index.php
hey everybody -- I've got many ideas... most of which will bring nothing but good images and quality photographers to the table...
PM me for my phone number and we can flesh some stuff out --- my ideas are involved and might need some explaining and a sounding board --- I look forward to working with our peers =----
Stephen, could you consider setting up 2 new forums :
Lighting
and the following:
"Professional practice" with the folling sub forums:
Forms (we can stockpile some model release templates, wedding contracts, ascme guidelines, etc)
Marketing
Publishing opportunities
Success Stories (where people can get the pat on the back and bee recognised for published work, galleries, etc)
Galleries (to help us network with galleries that handle photography)
Job Opportunities
I think these would be useful additions
if anybody needs anything let me know
Blake
BillBingham2
10-22-2007, 16:02
Stephen what are your goals and requirements?
Do you want to drive traffic to RFF Salon/Galleries?
Load speed is important, how slow is too slow?
Should this include the sister site (DSLRx)?
Do you want to increase membership?
B2 (;->
terrafirmanada
10-22-2007, 16:07
Best thread I have read here in a while. Memphis will be a great kingpin in this place. Althought, Jon I also miss the random images, maybe we could have random selected images (with at least a couple comments, or some other distinction)... That way we cut down on the personal shots which are not as presentable. THIS IS THE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT i HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! I have loved favorites of the week, but am not always able to entertain. I think this is a great idea. -thomas
terrafirmanada
10-22-2007, 16:09
Cool idea including DSLR site Bill. I like good shots, and that might mix it up a bit. -tg
Thanks to all of those volunteering to work on the Salon projects. Glad to see the support of RFF.
BillBingham2
10-22-2007, 17:31
Can we have special forum set up that we can add comments/thoughts to. One that will not be added to the front page? This might use a tool we all know to post comments and ideas for feed back. Everyone who wants to can post a thread and then we can all comment back. Lets do this for a week or two and then you (being a moderator) can pull together a master list for final review. We trash it for another week and then present it to the Chief Bartender.
How does that sound?
B2 (;->
jan normandale
10-22-2007, 18:06
Just a comment from the "bleachers"... I came here originally because of the galleries. I didn't even join into the forums for at least 6 months because I wasn't interested in camera equipment.
Since I'm more an "image guy" than an 'equipment guy" I sympathize with the loss of the 'revolving/rotating/random gallery function' however I'm with Stephen on the issue of it causing a slowdown in site performance. I recall too many times when the whole site was interminably slow or even unable to handle the load of the users.
I can wait for a few seconds and do the "random" thing on my own. I'd rather see everyone have fast access at the cost of my having to search for images through the member list.
Initially I went through everyone's gallery start to finish. It might be good to do it again!
CameraQuest
10-22-2007, 18:36
it's great to see all of this interest. This call for community action came about when I realized the mods and myself did not have the the time to promote the existing monthly salon and 10 best pics.
the goal is to make RFF a better site. After that, traffic will take care of itself. I am aiming for more image promotion and emphasis within RFF -- but without taking anything away from the gear heads. Ideally I want us to add to the site's versatility and usefulness.
Exactly how to do it, when, and in what order, needs to take some thought instead of just making changes from the get go. Changes that prove successful at RFF can also be made at DSLR.
On Bill's suggestion, there is a new forum to discuss these changes, to be led by the volunteers on this task, but open to all members. Remember that we are limited to the existing shape and function of the forum. Don't waste time on suggesting massive programming changes to the software.
The new forum to discuss imagery ideas is RFF Imagery Promo
at http://rangefinderforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=134
Deciding what to try is just the first step. After that we need to see what works, and how to keep it working!
Stephen
PS: anyone notice the new Leica CL forum yet?
BillBingham2
10-22-2007, 18:49
The wonderful thing about the web is you can link your pages together any way you want, even put pages on other servers. You might have two different types of start pages, one for the folks who like salons and contest, another for the folks who like discussions. Each one has a single toggle button to move you to the other. In a perfect world you could choose if you want a new window or go there in the current that you can set up in the user profile.
On the Salons, Galleries side we need to have some contests and perhaps publize them on both sides. We can do the same topic in the DSLR forum too (e.g. What Is It?).
B2
BillBingham2
10-22-2007, 18:51
Stephen
PS: anyone notice the new Leica CL forum yet?
Stephen,
I'm trying to cut back on GEAR/GAS. Having a bad attack of NAS for a digital to go with my beautiful S3 2000!
I have to look though as the CL is one of those cameras I've always lusted for.
B2 (;->
Stephen,
If I can be of any help as a volunteer, let me know.
SteveM(PA)
10-22-2007, 22:24
[QUOTE=MikeL]Would it be possible to have two front pages- one that's faster (the current one), and one that could be bookmarked and contains the random gallery images? I'm not savvy with the web stuff, so this is probably not possible.
Cheers,
Mike[/QUOTE
random front page images translate into a terribly slow site.
we have tried it, it does not work.
Stephen
If the front page thing won't work, how about a "back page" of random photos linked through the gallery? Is it images in general (i.e. the new uploads in the gallery) that slow things down, or is it the "randomness"?
So many great pictures here, some 5 years old, from people who are long gone, buried, never ever to be seen unless through an archeological member gallery dig.
As others said, it is (it was) unique to here, it's what brought me here, etc.
kalokeri
10-23-2007, 01:03
Thatīs a great idea.
I admit that Iīm a little bit lazy. I do have a scanner for 5 or 6 months but scanning hasnīt become one of my favourite activities. So thatīs the main reason I havenīt contributed pictures so far. But I do look at the galleries nearly every day when I visit rff.
One thought and one question: what makes members with outstsanding pictures leave rff and post them on - for example - flickr ? Is there more traffic? Is it easier to post on flickr? For I have no idea how it works, itīs meant as a serious question.
Thomas
My 2 cents: Instead a random image at the start would it be possible to include a set of thumbnailed random images in the same way the "featured ads"? This way the paga layout would not change and only a third row of "featured pics from our galleries" will be added.
i would be glad to help but i dont fully understand what would be our job. maybe i could continue organizing stuff like fsu contest. maybe i could expand it to other groups (so we could have leica competition, zeiss competition, bessa etc...) like someone proposed in this thread http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=663623#post663623
i just need one gallery for each contest.
kalokeri
10-23-2007, 02:14
I would like to bring to your attention in this thread a post Marek just posted in the "new beginning"-thread:
"My suggestion is simple: make a "plugin" loader applet, akin that used by flickr, with which one can load up reasonably sized (at least 1200x800 pixel) jpegs smoothly and directly into a specific set in the gallery. I load up 25-30 shots a month on flickr on average, and with all the time it takes to scan and edit the photos I hate to think I would have to upload each photo manually. If you cannot do this, forget the individual galleries altogether, and make exclusively a monthly contest in a few categories, where one can submit only one shot, this way you will end up attracting best photographs and biggest interest without much IT investment."
If this is right - as I said I donīt know anything about it - it might be one of the reasons why rff is not that picture-related. Can you change this with reasonable efforts, Steven and Jorge?
Thomas
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