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raid
09-09-2007, 13:30
I recently spent 4 days in Lisbon (Portugal). Here is the first part of the results from that trip.


Image 1: Boyfriends

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32250026.jpg

Image 2:

Old Walls

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31360006.jpg

Image 3:

Dinner Outdoors

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31360010.jpg


Image 4:

Colorful Building

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31250019.jpg


Image 5:

Coffe/Wine Stop

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31370021.jpg

Additional Images: http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=762928

More images (Part 2):http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=763273

More images: (Part 3):http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=763589

MartinP
09-09-2007, 13:54
Attractive pictures and some tricky metering ! Depressing to say that there is more graffiti there, than even in the not-so-nice bits of Brussels.

FrankS
09-09-2007, 13:57
I left a comment for a particularly nice street scene in your photonet folder gallery.

raid
09-09-2007, 14:38
Attractive pictures and some tricky metering ! Depressing to say that there is more graffiti there, than even in the not-so-nice bits of Brussels.

Martin,

I set the camera most of the time on 1/15 and the lens wide open.
Here,it was often the Canon 35mm/1.8. Film used was often ASA400 Portra VC and sometimes a leftover from the sunny afternoons, a Portra 160 NC or VC.

Graffiti was impossible to ignore; it was there ....

Thanks.

raid
09-09-2007, 14:39
I left a comment for a particularly nice street scene in your photonet folder gallery.

Thank you, Frank. I will take a look there.

MartinP
09-09-2007, 15:03
Hi Raid, I would certainly not suggest that the graffiti should be ignored ! Clearly it is the visual backdrop for the areas you were visiting :-/ It might be a problem if your visit was commissioned by the Portugese tourist board though !

Somehow I had the impression that poor old Brussels (which I visit regularly) was "messy", but when I think of my hometown in the UK and now of Lisbon perhaps it is not so bad. When I do visit the UK from time to time it feels strange and a bit disappointingly deteriorated, compared to what I remember from when I lived there, maybe due to the naturally selective memory effect. More recently, even Cairo seemed quite comfortable to be in, very strange.

EDIT: To other readers, Raids link to the other pics is worth a click...

raid
09-09-2007, 19:48
Thanks, Martin.
I am sure that Lisbon has its cleaner and richer areas, but I was more interested in seeing the narrow roads with people enjoying music and drinks.

Nando
09-09-2007, 20:32
Love the photographs. For a second, I thought I saw a cousin of mine in the first photograph. Lisbon streets are full of life and I love the lighting found on Portuguese cities at night. The photographs reminds me the summers spent in Portugal while in my late teens and early 20's. Rarely did I go to bed before dawn. Os meus verde anos.

raid
09-10-2007, 08:10
I left a comment for a particularly nice street scene in your photonet folder gallery.


Frank refers to this photo:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/lisbon.jpg

It was a very relaxed atmosphere at dinner time. I wish my wife had been with me on the trip to enjoy with me Lisbon.

People just sat outside little restaurants in the narrow roads and they had dinner outdoors. You could hear Fado music from a distance, which adedd to this special atmosphere.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/lisbon2.jpg

raid
09-10-2007, 08:11
Love the photographs. For a second, I thought I saw a cousin of mine in the first photograph. Lisbon streets are full of life and I love the lighting found on Portuguese cities at night. The photographs reminds me the summers spent in Portugal while in my late teens and early 20's. Rarely did I go to bed before dawn. Os meus verde anos.

Nando,
Once I took photos in Amsterdam, and a RFF member identified himself in one of them!

Nando
09-10-2007, 12:23
In this case, I wouldn't want to see my cousin in that photo, not that there is anything wrong with that. :)

kbg32
09-10-2007, 12:40
Frank refers to this photo:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/lisbon.jpg

It was a very relaxed atmosphere at dinner time. I wish my wife had been with me on the trip to enjoy with me Lisbon.

People just sat outside little restaurants in the narrow roads and they had dinner outdoors. You could hear Fado music from a distance, which adedd to this special atmosphere.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/lisbon2.jpg

Hi Raid,

My wife and I were in Lisbon last year at this time. We ate in the outdoor restaraunt in the last picture of this particular post.

Lovely images btw. Wish I was still there.

Cheers,

Keith

raid
09-10-2007, 12:55
Keith: This is great! I will show my wife this image. It really is a wonderful place to visit.

mich8261
09-10-2007, 13:03
Raid,

Beautiful pics. I especially enjoy the two street/restaurant scenes. I'll have a look at the pnet collection when I get home (work doesn't like pnet!) Funny about the grafitti, I just wouldn't have expected it. I wonder who/what Miks is?

raid
09-10-2007, 14:28
Raid,

Beautiful pics. I especially enjoy the two street/restaurant scenes. I'll have a look at the pnet collection when I get home (work doesn't like pnet!) Funny about the grafitti, I just wouldn't have expected it. I wonder who/what Miks is?

Thanks, Michel. Your question about "Miks" made me think for a while, until I scrolled up and saw the image. I don't know who/what Miks is. :D

nico
09-10-2007, 14:44
Hi Raid,
glad to see you had good time in Lisbon with the other RFf fellows. You also got some very nice photos, my favourites are the first and last among the ones you posted here. The third one made me think as Keith ...
Ciao :)

raid
09-10-2007, 14:52
Hello Nico,
Thanks. The RFF members is Lisbon made the visit a better one for me by their guidance. The friendship was immediate, and this is what makes photography so great. It brings people together.

I wonder whether removing the color from the photo you have uploaded [above] would give a better photo or not. The orange tone is very strong in it.

raid
09-10-2007, 17:39
I have added images as Part (2): http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=763273


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32240004.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350028.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32280015.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32240011.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32240019.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/32240020.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31320024.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350022.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350030.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350018.jpg



http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350020.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31320027.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350024.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31280002.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350007.jpg

kbg32
09-10-2007, 17:44
Well done Raid!

raid
09-10-2007, 17:52
Thank you, Keith. Here, I used the Elmar 50mm/3.5 (old one) and the CV 25mm/4 with also the use of the Fuji Natura with its 24mm/1.9 lens.

Nando
09-10-2007, 19:33
Great photographs. Will there be a part 3?

raid
09-10-2007, 19:58
Great photographs. Will there be a part 3?

Thanks, Nando.
Yes, there will be a Part 3 coming up the coming days.

Joao
09-11-2007, 02:27
Hello Raid
Thank you for posting these nice Lisbon pictures – I see that you took a deep dive into the heart of Lisbon night – great work!.
I don’t want to start a thread on this but just a comment on grafitti – which I, in most cases, don’t like: they are forbidden, but my son, who is finishing his degree in graphic design, went to a state-sponsored school where they had a “grafitti crew” – they learned the techniques of spray-paint and were encouraged to paint old walls (with permission or if requested by the owners). It is difficult to control this practice. Worst cases are the inscriptions /paintings on stone monuments, they cause permanent damage and are hard to remove.
I look forward to your future posts
Best regards
Joao

raid
09-11-2007, 05:36
Hello Raid
Thank you for posting these nice Lisbon pictures – I see that you took a deep dive into the heart of Lisbon night – great work!.
I don’t want to start a thread on this but just a comment on grafitti – which I, in most cases, don’t like: they are forbidden, but my son, who is finishing his degree in graphic design, went to a state-sponsored school where they had a “grafitti crew” – they learned the techniques of spray-paint and were encouraged to paint old walls (with permission or if requested by the owners). It is difficult to control this practice. Worst cases are the inscriptions /paintings on stone monuments, they cause permanent damage and are hard to remove.
I look forward to your future posts
Best regards
Joao

Hello Joao,
This is very interesting that grafitti is being picked up by graphic design schools. It is like a popular art, I guess. The damage is greater than any benefit from it, though.

raid
09-11-2007, 05:40
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31350030.jpg

Here we have from left to right:

Nuno, Miguel, and Joao.

I used a CL with CV 25mm/4 during this part of our walk in Lisbon.

nrb
09-11-2007, 11:36
Congratulations, dear Raid.
Your images are really nice and I like the night scenes particularly.
My scanner isn't back from the repairshop yet, so I haven't even seen my own photos.
I'll keep waiting for your Lisbon 3 series too.
Regards,
Nuno

raid
09-11-2007, 12:12
Hello Nuno!
It was great meeting you and the other RFF members in Portugal. Your hospitality made the brief trip a wonderful experience that I want to repeat in the near future with my family.

Regards,

raid
09-11-2007, 17:26
This is my last portion of my 4-day tirip to Lisbon:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=763589

Joao, Nuno, and Miguel (from left to right)

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31360023.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31360029.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31360035.jpg

More images:


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31380024.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31380020.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31380010.jpg


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31370032.jpg



http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31370025.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31290015.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/31250011.jpg





Your feedback is very welcome. I am satisfied with what I managed in four days and in between meetings.

Nando
09-11-2007, 19:58
I really like these two:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407607

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407611

Joao
09-12-2007, 03:32
Hello Raid
again a great set. I am especially pleased with the light of the indoors pictures (the "Brasileira " cafe and the "Trindade" beerhouse). Very nice work!
Best regards
Joao

SergioGuerra
09-12-2007, 05:53
Hope you liked Portugal, very good photos you got :)

Next time try to visit Porto. It's quite different from Lisbon... ;)


(more like this)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/470431785_217875c490_o.jpg

raid
09-12-2007, 06:51
I really like these two:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407607

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6407611

Hi Nando,
The yellow streetcars are now tourist attractions, and the narrow roads and stairs going up steep hils are a part of the old Lisbon. I got lots of exercise by walking the streets up and down.

raid
09-12-2007, 06:53
Hello Raid
again a great set. I am especially pleased with the light of the indoors pictures (the "Brasileira " cafe and the "Trindade" beerhouse). Very nice work!
Best regards
Joao

Hi Joao,
These are place that you picked for me to see in our walking tours. With the flash turned off, the Fuji Natura did an excellent job in exposing the indoor photos.

Greetings,

raid
09-12-2007, 06:54
Hi Sergio,

Your photo is a really good one. Thanks.
I will look up information about Porto.

Nando
09-12-2007, 15:11
My home town of Coimbra is an hour south of Porto and is one city that shouldn't be missed. :) It's the old capital but still the capital... of love, as the song goes. Coimbra as a city is to me what a 35 Summicron ASPH is to Magus.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1354/1313404935_fadd53c65c.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fgsemedo/1313404935/)

raid
09-12-2007, 16:23
My home town of Coimbra is an hour south of Porto and .... is to me what a 35 Summicron ASPH is to Magus.


Nando,
If I had more time available, I would have rented a car to drive around in Portugal. Why is Coimbra the Capital of Love? :D

sirius
09-12-2007, 16:50
Did you know that Lisbon is famous in Europe with photographers for the specail light that you can find there? I saw two model shoots when I was there in the street and they were speaking foreign languages. I think it is because of the sea salt in the air and the way that the sun reflects off the pale coloured cobbel stones. There is a rosy colour and pastel blue that appear. It suits the cream colours of the stone so well. Thanks for the great photos. I love that city and would like to go back one day. cheers

gb hill
09-12-2007, 17:19
Raid your Lisbon trip was fabulous. Looks like a place i'd love to visit. This is certainly the cream of what RFF is all about. Thanks for sharing your joy with us.:)

raid
09-12-2007, 17:24
Did you know that Lisbon is famous in Europe with photographers for the specail light that you can find there? I saw two model shoots when I was there in the street and they were speaking foreign languages. I think it is because of the sea salt in the air and the way that the sun reflects off the pale coloured cobbel stones. There is a rosy colour and pastel blue that appear. It suits the cream colours of the stone so well. Thanks for the great photos. I love that city and would like to go back one day. cheers

Thanks, Ian.
No, I did not know this fact. Miami is known in the USA for modeling because of the sunny days and the art deco buildings and the beaches.

It is a splendid place to visit [again].

raid
09-12-2007, 17:25
Raid your Lisbon trip was fabulous. Looks like a place i'd love to visit. This is certainly the cream of what RFF is all about. Thanks for sharing your joy with us.:)

gb: Thanks. The RFF members in Lisbon are very nice and friendly people. I saw quite a lot during the four days I spent there.

Nando
09-12-2007, 19:14
Why is Coimbra the Capital of Love? :D

Well various reasons. I was specifically quoting a song called "Coimbra" made famous by the Queen of Fado, Amália Rodrigues. The song was originally about the city, student life (it has one of the oldest universities in Europe and up until the 20th century, it was the only university in Portugal) and, of course, love. It pretty much captures the spirit of the city.

Coimbra do Choupal,body
Ainda és capital
De amor em Portugal,
Ainda és capital.

Coimbra, onde uma vez
Com lágrimas se fez
A história dessa Inês tão linda

Coimbra das canções
Tão meigas que nos pões
Os nossos corações à luz.

Coimbra dos doctores,
Pra nós os seus cantores
A fonte de amor és tu.

Coimbra e uma lição de sonho e tradição.
O lente e uma canção e a lua a faculdade.
O livro é uma mulher só passa quem souber
E aprende-se a dizer saudade.

I found this very literal English translation on the net.

Coimbra of the Choupal,
Thou art still capital
Of love in Portugal,
Thou art still capital.

Coimbra, where once upon a time
With tears took place
The story of that Inês so lovely.

Coimbra of the songs
So tender that thou turnest
Our hearts to the light.

Coimbra of the professors,
For us, thy singers,
The fountain of love art thou.

Coimbra is a lesson of dreams and tradition.
The lens is a song and the moon is the faculty.
The book is a lady. Whoever just passes knows
And learns to say ‘saudade’.

(Source webpage) (http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/06july/article033.html)

The 'Choupal' is a countryside near Coimbra on the banks of the Mondego river - there is just a bit of it left. The Inês reference is to the epic love story of Pedro and Inês. Pedro I was the heir to the throne. A marriage was arranged between him and a princess from Castile (now part of Spain). When she arrived, Pedro fell in love with a beautiful maiden that accompanied her - Inês. He married the princess anyway but later she died during childbirth. Pedro then wanted to marry Inês but his father forbade him. He lived and had children with Inês anyway. Then the King had Inês assassinated. The tormented Pedro went to war with his father, King Afonso IV, but lost. Later however, the King died and Pedro took the throne. Upon taking the throne, he had Inês' body dug up from the grave and seated her next to him proclaiming her the Queen of Portugal. He then made everyone in his father's court kiss her decomposed hand. The assassins were killed and supposedly Pedro ate their hearts. The place where Inês was assassinated is known as the Quinta das Lágrimas (Estate of Tears). Legend has it that a water spring developed at the spot of her assassination. It is known as the Fonte das Lágrimas (Spring of Tears), the water coming from the tears of Inês. This tragic love story left a mark on the city. Falling in love seems easier in Coimbra than in other places and love is above all else as learned from Pedro.

Here's a photograph I took from the Quinta das Lágrimas:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fgsemedo/1352274663/

Song is in reference to Coimbra's version of Fado music. The Fado of Coimbra is more formal and classical, the lyrics much deeper and powerful, and traditionaly performed by male university students and alumni. They dress in the traditional black capes. Fado of Coimbra is street music performed at night. Many times it is performed as a serenade to a woman. Love songs are mixed in with profound poetry from the likes of Zeca Afonso and Miguel Torga. So powerful is the content that during Salazar's fascist regime, many poets and performers risked imprisonment. The late Carlos Paredes, who was and still is the greatest Fado guitarist, was imprisoned for a very long time. Fado of Coimbra is just pure passion and emotion but at the same time extremely intellectual and influential.

Here's a photograph of students performing Fado of Coimbra:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fgsemedo/1162845321/

The last verse of the song really captures the experience. If one lives in this city, even for a short time, they will be forever changed. The last sentence says that one will learn to say 'saudade'. Saudade doesn't have an English translation - it is a feeling of longing, nostalgia, remembering better days... at the same time, a bit of disdain for the present situation, and a bit of fear for the future and knowing that one cannot go back and relive the past. It is both a happy and sad emotion. When I'm in Coimbra, I'm completely consumed by the city and I always find it hard to leave. When I'm in Canada, I can't stop thinking of it and I long to go back. When your surrounded by musicians, artists, poets, intellectuals, love-stricken and youthful students, tremendous history, and most of all, excellence everywhere and in everything, you can't help but be affected somehow.

So yes - Coimbra is the capital of love in Portugal. Love between a romantic couple and also love for your neighbour, love of art. love for learning, love of excellence, love for living... There are probably just as many songs about yearning for Coimbra as there are about wanting a woman.

The song "Coimbra" became an international hit but sadly when it was adapted for other languages, everything that had to do with Coimbra (the reference to Pedro and Ines, the university, love, sernades and saudade) was taken out. It became a meaningless pop-song. The English version of the song is called "April in Portugal" and was performed by Louis Armstong, Bing Crosby and many others.

BTW, if you really want to impress your significant other, book a romantic evening at the Palace of Bucaco - 20 minutes North of the Coimbra. It is in the middle of the most enchanting fairy-tale forest imaginable. (It was the King's hunting lodge)

A photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fgsemedo/1314298212/

The official website:
http://www.almeidahotels.com/nm_quemsomos.php?id=12&menu1=3

Sorry about the book but I get carried away when it comes to the city that I love.

raid
09-12-2007, 19:40
Fernando,
Thank you very much for your informative write-up with photos.
I can see why you are so proud of your hometown.

Regards,

Raid

Bingley
09-12-2007, 21:08
Oh man, what a thread! Raid, your photos are terrific. The evidence of that is not only in the images themselves, but in the reaction they inspire from other members. Got to find a way to get to Portugal!

raid
09-13-2007, 06:11
Oh man, what a thread! Raid, your photos are terrific. The evidence of that is not only in the images themselves, but in the reaction they inspire from other members. Got to find a way to get to Portugal!

Thank you, Steve.
I never thought before of visiting Portugal, but I did consider Spain and Morocco as a good goal for a trip so that I could see the architecture inspired by the Islamic rulers in these countries.

In some of my posted photos above, you can see the beautiful tile work displayed on the walls of buildings and interiors. The RFF group showed me restaurants that have a rich history. One of those restaurants has amazing tile work on the walls. There is also a shot of the oldest store in Lisbon. It sells candles.

Greetings,

migtex
09-20-2007, 14:11
Hi
Being out of the country, only now I managed to get my rolls done. I do apologize for being "late".
Raid your photos look Fantastic! :)
Thank you very much for make these places much better than they real are!
With so great photos I just put the link to mine so the thread does not lose the level of quality it has. :o

http://www.flickr.com/photos/migone/sets/72157602089838186/

Was excellent to have Raid and all the Portuguese members togheter!
We need to do it more times!

PS- ok just one, Raid at his best! http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1357/1413850371_7a7f73b849.jpg

raid
09-20-2007, 15:30
Hello Miguel!
I really like your photo of the streetcar with four passengers showing. It is a great image.The photos of me look ... like me.
Yes, it was a nice time in Lisbon.

Thanks.

nvs
10-05-2007, 12:28
Hello Raid, grat set of photos out there ... planning a second trip ?? :D
finally got my V500, so here are some photos from the meeting http://www.flickr.com/photos/nvs/sets/72157602273813584/

still learning to handle this scanner ... hope there are fine :)

raid
10-05-2007, 17:04
Hello Raid, grat set of photos out there ... planning a second trip ?? :D
finally got my V500, so here are some photos from the meeting http://www.flickr.com/photos/nvs/sets/72157602273813584/

still learning to handle this scanner ... hope there are fine :)

Hello Nuno,

With three guys called Nuno, it is difficult to forget the names! :D
I love your photos. Each is nice. You have a good eye for composition and geometry.

Did you use Miguel's Nikkor 85mm/2 for the close-ups?

Thanks for the images. One day, I will be back in Portugal. I am waiting for the EURO to drop! :bang:

nvs
10-05-2007, 17:40
Hello Nuno,

With three guys called Nuno, it is difficult to forget the names! :D
I love your photos. Each is nice. You have a good eye for composition and geometry.

Did you use Miguel's Nikkor 85mm/2 for the close-ups?

Thanks for the images. One day, I will be back in Portugal. I am waiting for the EURO to drop! :bang:


Thanks a lot, and yes i used Miguel´s Nikkor on those photos, they really do the job ... , if your wating for the Euro to drop ... maybe i should get a trip over there ... :cool: who knows ...

raid
10-05-2007, 18:09
The EURO may keep on increasing relative to the US Dollar.
I may still travel to Europe though. Life is too short ...

nrb
11-09-2007, 09:29
Hi you all,
As promised I'm attaching a link to some of the pictures I shot on this occasion. My scanner is finally back from the Nikon agent, still limping on each 6th frame it scans even after €242,00 was spent, but I'm glad it is back home.
I'll be updating this file at a speed of 5 frames each 24 hours from now on.
All these images were shot in Vista color film and developed in hc-110 b&w chemistry.
Best regards,
nuno
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=7200

raid
11-09-2007, 14:38
Hello Nuno,
Finally, we can see some of your results. The photos brought back memories of my trip to Lisbon. Well done.
Which type of scanner do you have?