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Or, for search purposes, Nikon 85mm 2.0. Sonnar for good measure.
This lens arrived a week ago thanks to Roland (ferider). Tonight I have photographs from the lens to share.
Everyone is welcome to post samples from this lens here.
My reaction, you ask? A keeper for sure.
First two: f = 2.8, Fuji NGH II
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95965-2/FH000024-4-4.jpg
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95968-2/FH000029-5-5.jpg
Next two: f = 11, Fuji NGH II
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95971-2/FH000035-6-6.jpg
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95974-2/FH000036-7-7.jpg
Thanks for looking.
Roland, thank you!
Glad you like it :) The first two photos are great. Anything at f2 ?
I think I have something at 2.0. I meant to shoot the welder at 2.0, but forgot. I know the portraits aren't very artsy, but BOY! are they SHARP!
For Roland: Gizmo #1 @ 2.0, Gizmo #2 @ 2.8
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95982-1/FH000016-2-2.jpg
http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/95985-1/FH000017-3-3.jpg
Zen-shooter
08-21-2007, 18:08
I like this lens too. A recent addition to my Nikkor LTM's...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1214/969867940_86df054e01_o.jpg
Wayne - wow, those portraits look great! I presume the formula is more or less the same as the Zeiss Sonnar from what you imply? The closest I've got is a Jupiter 9 85/2 which is also an amazingly sharp lens.
Thanks, Wayno. Check out the "Sonnar by any other name thread." The Nikkor-P is kinda, sorta, maybe, not quite the same as the Zeiss Sonnar.
ROLAND: Look at the two Gizmo pictures. I thought I focused the same for both, the two links of chain where they change direction. Is that a bit of focus shift I'm seeing? I'm going back with a tripod. That Gizmo is always hanging in the same place, and the light is always the same.
Last one. I won't bore you anymore. Yes, it's sharp wide open. Yes, it's sharp around the edges.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=48722&d=1187750607
ROLAND: Look at the two Gizmo pictures. I thought I focused the same for both, the two links of chain where they change direction. Is that a bit of focus shift I'm seeing? I'm going back with a tripod. That Gizmo is always hanging in the same place, and the light is always the same.
It shouldn't Wayne. This lens has very thin DOF, 2-3cm at 1.1m distance
and f2 (like a Noctilux wide open!) and is calibrated to be sharp at f2.
To illustrate, DOF is similar to the distance between eyes and glasses for a portrait.
To be sure try with tripod, middle of RF patch, and a tape measure (I
know it's boring). Or use a pen and mark a line on the Gitzmo ...
Even with my well calibrated M3s I get 1 out of 3 shots wrong ....
I do like the Gizmo photos though. Typical Sonnar OOF.
Sequoia, right ? Nice. Don't you feel it fits the 50/1.4 ? :)
Best,
Roland.
Sequoia? Hah! This is the swamp, remember? Bald cypress.
For my next adventure, I will take both Nikkors out for a pub crawl. Chaperoned by the wee UC-Hexanon.
By the way, the 8.5 cm Nikkor-P attached to a Leica M5 is a real Manly Man's rig.
Sequoia? Hah! This is the swamp, remember? Bald cypress.
For my next adventure, I will take both Nikkors out for a pub crawl. Chaperoned by the wee UC-Hexanon.
By the way, the 8.5 cm Nikkor-P attached to a Leica M5 is a real Manly Man's rig.
Yep. Don't forget the hood :)
BillBingham2
08-21-2007, 20:51
If I remember the story, the 85/2 was the lens that the photographer from Life discovered when he was in Japan. He thought it was the sharpest med-tele there was and I think he was right.
Thanks for sharing, great shots.
B2 (;->
Wayne, is that the heavy chrome lens, or the nice light black one?
You're making me miss NHGII, too.
It's the all chrome version. Don't even hint that there is a lighter black version. When I bought the Speed Graphic last month, the seller's wife found a bag of film in the freezer. There were two rolls of the NGH II in the sack. They have both been exposed. The second roll needs to be developed. That's all I have.
There seems to be a focus problem with Gizmo 2.
.... That's all I have.
Please don't think that I meant to come and take your film away. NPZ and Pro 800 are OK, but they seem a little contrastier to me than the older stuff.
The later version of the 8.5cm lens was available in black, and I think it's aluminum. I'm sure someone around here actually knows for sure.
Refraining from comments ... Wayne is my friend.
There seems to be a focus problem with Gizmo 2.
I think the focus problem is behind the viewfinder. As discussed, I will go back with a tripod to be sure.
Please don't think that I meant to come and take your film away. NPZ and Pro 800 are OK, but they seem a little contrastier to me than the older stuff.
The later version of the 8.5cm lens was available in black, and I think it's aluminum. I'm sure someone around here actually knows for sure.
I just meant that I came to this film late. I have 20 rolls of the Superia X-tra 800 in the freezer. Good or bad, it will have to do. Honestly, I'm not sure that I like 800 speed color film. On the other hand, what are you going to do indoors at night? :eek: :D
Refraining from comments ... Wayne is my friend.
Don't ask. Don't tell. :D :cool:
I have the same BTL focus problem, Wayne. What I meant was that aperture is not the only difference between the two Gizmos (Gizmoes?).
You are correct. The framing is different. I obviously moved.
Gabriel M.A.
08-24-2007, 15:19
Stop it, all of you. I can't afford any GAS.
Stop it, all of you. I can't afford any GAS.
At least it's not the really expensive kind of GAS. You could spend a lot more for a nice f/2 90.
In case of a black Nikkor 85/2, a Summicron is cheaper...
But I also just have a chrome one. Great portrait lens.
hmm, between this and a canadian summicron, which would be the sharper/better lens? I am about to get a summicron and i can't decide which to keep. Eventually, one will have to go.......
Decide when you can compare both lenses side by side. Preferably with both on a tripod shooting exactly the same scene at exactly the same time. The Nikkor is smaller, both in outside diameter and I seem to recall in overall length as well. Less expensive too. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
The chrome Nikkor is sharper at 2.8 and much smaller, but almost equally heavy.
The Summicron focuses closer, and wide-open, has better bokeh. But
lacks the Sonnar "3D effect".
Roland.
Here are some photos taken on a tripod with cable release:
Nikon 85mm/2 @ 2.0:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754662
Summicron 90mm/2 @ 2.0:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4745892
Canon 85mm/1.9 @ 2.0:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754697
Nikon 85/2 @ 2.8:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754682
Summicron 90/2 @ 2.8:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754804
Canon 85mm/1.9 @ 2.8:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754699
Steinheil 85mm/2.8 @ 2.8:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4754688
The chrome Nikkor is sharper at 2.8 and much smaller, but almost equally heavy.
The Summicron focuses closer, and wide-open, has better bokeh. But
lacks the Sonnar "3D effect".
Roland.
Roland,
I find the Summicron equally sharp as the Nikkor. :D
Vincenzo Maielli
09-07-2007, 13:22
All your shots are very nice. Also i own the Nikkor 85 mm f/ 2 in LTM mount, that i have bought together the LTM Nikkor 135 mm f/ 3,5 two years ago, from Luigi Crescenzi in Rome. Both are excellent performers.
Ciao.
Thank you Vincenzo. I also have the Nikkor 135mm/3.5 and I know how sharp this lens is.
Cheap thrill but my 85mm is up for sale! Decided to keep the 90mm instead!
photorat
01-05-2008, 15:33
How do you mount this lens on a Leica M?
By the way, the 8.5 cm Nikkor-P attached to a Leica M5 is a real Manly Man's rig.
Use the Leica M Adapter with the LTM lens. It is very simple. Such an adapter sells for $30-$45.
photorat
01-05-2008, 16:10
Is there a M39 version of this lens? All I can find on eBay is Nikon rangefinder bayonet mount which is apparently not compatible.
Am looking for a 90mm for my M2 and this lens really looks the goods. Would be great if I can find a reasonably priced example.
Use the Leica M Adapter with the LTM lens. It is very simple. Such an adapter sells for $30-$45.
Brian Sweeney
01-05-2008, 16:27
This lens was available in Leica Thread Mount, Nikon S-Mount, and Contax mount. I have all three. The LTM version is a bit longer and heavier. I use it mainly with a Canon 7, but it will work fine with an adapter.
The LTM version of this lens is widely available.
[Brian beat me by 1/1000 second].
BillBingham2
01-05-2008, 18:03
They go in cycles on EvilBay. Keep you eyes open and check other sources (e.g. KEH, Pacific Rim Camera). Black ones are hard to find, but chrome come up every month or so. Broaden your search criteria to include 8.5cm, nikon, rare, nikkor. Some times folks miss list them and it seems the best bargains happen that way. Also, check sold prices so that if you see a buy it now and know if you want to pull the trigger or not.
I've had several lenses in that length (including a 'Cron) and the Nikkor is worth the wait!
B2 (;->
A cheaper alternative that rocks is the Canon 85mm/1.9.
My example of the Canon is really a great lens.
I have posted this pic before. 85/2 Nikkor in Contax mount, scale focused (yeah, I missed the potrait by just a bit). I love this lens.
I got great results with my Nikon 85/2 and the M8, however I wouldn't rank f2 shots as sharp, f2.8 however are very sharp. I like it a lot f2 and f2.8. Infinity shots are also not as sharp as closeups.
wide open:
http://elfefe.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p581061927-3.jpg
http://elfefe.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p7366115-3.jpg
shot at 2.8? against very strong light
http://elfefe.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p970722630-3.jpg
5.6 or so
http://elfefe.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p942696027-3.jpg
http://elfefe.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p611297200-3.jpg
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