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lZr
07-10-2007, 11:41
I have set a photo session tomorrow in Barber saloon. I want a series of shots with old man, shaving with old razor and old fashion dresses. I have them all ready for the action. Equipment: Bessar R and Color Skopar 35 mm, DSLR and SLR same lenses. No flash, no tripods. 400 asa film and digital is ok.
How should I shot my heroes? Give me some ideas about distance, angle of view
and crazy ideas
Thanks.
Yes, I'll post samples

Michael I.
07-10-2007, 11:46
take the horizont along.

rover
07-10-2007, 11:50
Low angle of view in reference to your subject in the chair. Just like you are part of the conversation sitting along with the others.

Hair on the floor at the base of the barber chair.

Shots of the discussion in the mirrors.

Tight shot, hair/hands/comb/scissors, barber in the bokeh.....

Men's magazines (male orientated not really anything dirty) sitting on the table or empty chair waiting to be read.

lZr
07-10-2007, 11:57
Thanks Michael and rover. Beauty ideas about the waiting men and magazines.
Now I think also, to incorporate some lights back from the razor

clintock
07-10-2007, 12:12
Is smoking still something done in Israel? Getting my hair cut at the barber when I was a child always involved endless smoking, overfilled ashtrays. It may kill you, but smoking sure looks cool. Nothing cooler than the one-eyed squint to keep the smoke out when no hands are free and the cigaratte is half burned away.. all the while talking and clipping..

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:16
Thanks clintock. Yes, smoke can lurk free arround. My old man is smoking. Me too, but I am out of the frame. Good idea

eli griggs
07-10-2007, 12:18
Get some shots of the barber from the chair, as if you are the customer, get shots of the customer with the camera held as if from the barbers viewpoint. The barbers arm and razor reaching into the foreground will help .

Eli

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:21
Eli, nice idea. Like video cast

back alley
07-10-2007, 12:23
who is wearing the old fashioned dresses?

if it's a woman then shoot her shaving the old man.

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:28
The baber is wearing them. Thanks
Remark - The barber was pushed by me to shave. He didn't do that for long time. 'Who is shaving today?' he asked me.

clintock
07-10-2007, 12:28
Oh you gotta get the classic with the chair fully reclined, the steaming hot towel on the client's face, while the razor gets honed on the strop by the barber. The tension of the client is there a little, no matter how many times he's had a shave. Trusting a guy not to kill you, who so easily could..

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:36
Clintock, you have top ideas. Ya, the barber will use his strop. The tension is really top quality here. Only the gun will be invisible in this scene. Bad, really bad.

Sparrow
07-10-2007, 12:37
Speaking as an expert, look out for the dumb photographer in the mirrors

:)

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:39
Share the expertize, man. I'll be in anyhow

kmack
07-10-2007, 12:42
I would also take a longer lens for some tight shots without being right in someones face.

lZr
07-10-2007, 12:47
Good. Sorry I don't have the 75 mm Skopar, but my (D)SLR can do that easy.
Most of the digital will go 17 mm to be close to the 35 mm Skopar, but I have many zooms to use

Sparrow
07-10-2007, 13:14
Outside looking in through a window or an open door, reflections of the “action” in mirrors or picture frames, rows of style photos contrasted with the actual customers, details of the equipment on counters and any shiny surfaces you can use to expand the room spring to mind, 35mm is a bit tight indoors something under 20 would be better if you could get use of one.

lZr
07-10-2007, 22:34
Thank Sparrow at All. Cool ideas

nico
07-10-2007, 23:12
Details, like the tools (scissors, razors, towels, etc) hands (of the barber while shaving the customer's throat ...)...

Carzee
07-10-2007, 23:16
Well, this shoot seems to be sentimental and nostalgic. Any old-fashioned mirror frames? Any old kibbutz recruitment posters or newspaper gatefolds on the wall? A faded flag somewhere?

And a macro of the skin/soap/stubble...

Matthew55000
07-10-2007, 23:33
If it's a significant shave maybe a 'before and after' of the man being shaved.

Don't be afraid of catching yourself in the mirror and including yourself in some shots.
If done well that sort of photo can be quite interesting.

lZr
07-11-2007, 00:13
Stunning ideas++ Carzee and Matthew. Thanks nico

lZr
07-11-2007, 10:28
Time to show samples.
I was a little bit disapointed, because the short time frame, no good foam seen and no hair on the floor
My HP5+ is drying and tomorrow will post b/w samples. Hope they are better. For now, I think to redo my job soon as possible.
Let me proceed

lZr
07-11-2007, 10:30
3 more comming

Doug
07-11-2007, 10:52
I particularly like the first two... Looks like a fun excercise.

alexz
07-11-2007, 11:07
Nice try Lazar. Unfortunately have little expertize in that specific field (aside of shooting my little girls being haircut), but if you're after an old, nostalgic atmosphare - I would certainly consider B&W, not color. IMHO, color just distracts from the mood...
Probably also having the barber wearing some kind of old-fashioned robe/coat, make any contemporary thingy like TV out of the frame will also contribute. Also, IMHO the bored guy in the background doesn't really contribute to the mood and probably even draws the attation away from the subject...

lZr
07-11-2007, 11:32
Thanks Alex. First try. Next time. At this moment I scan my b/w HP5+.

Sparrow
07-11-2007, 12:42
IZr

Hope you don’t mind, I did a crop and a bit of PS

http://bp2.blogger.com/_U-t2tGr6I1A/RpU8pTWSZwI/AAAAAAAAAK8/xXA-ncoLvCE/s400/last-razor-650.jpg

Michael I.
07-11-2007, 12:49
much better.I would highten contrast.

Sparrow
07-11-2007, 13:01
much better.I would highten contrast.

better?

http://bp1.blogger.com/_U-t2tGr6I1A/RpVEsDWSZxI/AAAAAAAAALE/IBXie5HzFWQ/s400/last-razor-650.jpg

Doug
07-11-2007, 13:29
Third one with a crop and losing the guy in the background, excellent! :)

lZr
07-11-2007, 19:38
Ok. Nice, and very clasic frame. Also good to me

lZr
07-12-2007, 10:14
Now the b&w version and Sparrow frame without crop
HP5+ in HC-110 dil B for 5:30 min at 20C

lZr
07-12-2007, 10:15
Last two samples