View Full Version : Replacement 35mm...any ideas?
OurManInTangier
07-01-2007, 16:32
I've had my CV 35mm Colour Skopar nicked and need a replacement.
The trouble is I'm now wondering if its worth getting something different or simply buying a straight replacement. A fellow RFF'er was telling me how good the 35mm Canon was...I think it was an f/2 but I haven't researched yet.
I'm looking to spend as small an amout as possible as I would like to get an R2A body as well but I can always divert the grocery funds or sell my corneas...actually maybe not that
I have the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and would love to know more about the Canon 35mm or anything similar.
How about a CV 40 f1.4 Nokton? Use the 35mm framelines on the M6 and you've got extra speed to boot.
The Canon 35mm/2.8 is very nice and small and affordable too. The 35/2.0 or the 35/1.8 are more expensive with the 35/2 being the most expensive one. The CV 35mm/1.7 is a good choice for the money. If I could afford it, I would get a 35mm/1.4 or 35mm/1.5.
OurManInTangier
07-01-2007, 23:41
I noticed a Canon 35mm 2.8 in the classifieds which I've enquired about but I think its gone already. There don't seem to be many of these lenses about - not sure if thats a good sign or of no difference.
Thanks for posting some of your pictures Wes, I like the shot of the mannequins and the model's face, I'm not too bothered about the extra speed of the f/2 but obviously if ones available....
All the Canon lenses are old and relatively scarce. I counted two votes for the 35/1.7. If you don't need the speed, a replacement Colo(u)r Skopar: small and familiar.
If it's bang-for-buck you're after, I think the 40mm lenses are worth a look. I've had the Nokton 40 and now have the Summicron 40 which I love. You're looking at £200-ish from a dealer in the UK for a Summicron-C/Rokkor. Personally, knowing what I know now, I'd go for the 40mm Rokkor rather than Summicron, just because the filter issue is much simpler.
If you want to try an Ultron while you think about it, I have one saved for a rainy day.
And I met a guy yesterday who has a Canon 35/1.5 that he picked up reasonably somewhere. He doesn't get on with the long focus throw so might pass the bargain on; I can ask if you like?
Tom
I've got the Ultron good lens, affordable and easy to get hold of one. I don't think there are any 'bad' choices if you stick to the mainstream of what most people use here btw.
markinlondon
07-02-2007, 00:35
For sheer quality per pound I'd have to nominate the Ultron as well.
OurManInTangier
07-02-2007, 02:05
I've heard the 1.5 is average at best but then what do I know, I've never used it or even seen one!
Tom - I could be very tempted by your offer of borrowing your Ultron for a bit, I know Mark was talking them up at the weekend and they're always being talked about positively.
Maybe I'm fixating on Canon because of my love affair with the 50mm 1.8?!?
I had an Ultron which I used as a approximate 50mm when I had my R-D1s. Very fine lens I thought, only sold it because I don't use the 35mm focal length.
Ian
The ultron is a very good lens, but I found the handling a bit difficult when in a hurry. The colour skopar is a great lens, especially when you consider the price. If you don't need the speed I'd just replace what was lost - at least you'll be getting new with a warranty.
Simon
Someone will sell you the 35mmf/2.8 Canon, case and perhaps hood... I've got a type II f/2 and it is indeed pretty good. I'll PM the vendor anyway.
Noel
P.S. Still suffering that i did not see anything ...
Simon
Someone will sell you the 35mmf/2.8 Canon, case and perhaps hood... I've got a type II f/2 and it is indeed pretty good. I'll PM the vendor anyway.
Noel
P.S. Still suffering that i did not see anything ...
Noel your messages box is full cant reply to you you need to delete some.
OurManInTangier
07-02-2007, 03:46
Simon
Someone will sell you the 35mmf/2.8 Canon, case and perhaps hood... I've got a type II f/2 and it is indeed pretty good. I'll PM the vendor anyway.
Noel
P.S. Still suffering that i did not see anything ...
Noel
If you do indeed know of someone thats looking to sell I'd be very interested. Thanks for asking via PM I appreciate it greatly.
Also, don't feel bad that you didn't see anything - I was sitting right next to it and didn't even notice anyone come near me, I blame the beer....imagine what I could have lost if we'd been trying out various whiskies;)
Simon
Vendor is forum member, we were mismatched I wanted a 28mm he wants to sell a 35mm and other kit... I have him your 'Our man in tang' If he does not react I'll try again...
Noel
Simon
I'm going to pack a bicycle lock and chain...
Noel
OurManInTangier
07-02-2007, 04:01
Simon
Vendor is forum member, we were mismatched I wanted a 28mm he wants to sell a 35mm and other kit... I have him your 'Our man in tang' If he does not react I'll try again...
Noel
He PM'd a few minutes ago and I've replied. Thanks very much for the shove in his direction.
Simon
If you buy I'll want to try a shot on my body, next outing. After I lock the gbag to the table...
Noel
OurManInTangier
07-02-2007, 04:04
Simon
I'm going to pack a bicycle lock and chain...
Noel
If I ever come across the person that took my gear I may have to borrow the bicycle lock and chain and cobble together a makeshift set of stocks
Simon its not very nice when you have things stolen i had a hole kit stolen from the boot of the car a few years back but they did not get my late fathers camera that was around my neck. (It could always be worse) this is my outlook it helps.How would you feel today if it had been your M6
Simon
I'm always worried that someone may mistake my monopod for a cudgel.
Noel
back alley
07-02-2007, 07:28
one of my few gear regrets was selling the canon 35/2.8 chrome model i had. it's an excellent lens.
someone already suggested the rokkor 40/2 and i would second that based on excellent performance, small size and they can be found for a very good price. i think i paid $225 u.s. for mine.
I love 40s, but paired with a general purpose 50 like the 50/1.8,
the FOV would be too close for me.
I can recommend Ultron, and the two fast Canon lenses (f2 and f1.8).
The Canon lenses are very compact. The f1.8 is usually cheaper
than the f2 and not very different optically.
Raid's recent test showed that the Canon 35/1.5 is an outstanding
performer.
I am surprised that nobody mentioned the J-12.
Also, as Wes, I like the 50/28 combo. The 28 Color Skopar or Ultron
are great lenses.
Many choices ....
Roland.
One more thought to consider, if you're still wavering: Avotius has posted some wonderful pix from China in recent months. He uses a 35 cv pancake, which has the same optics as your lost lamented color skopar. A great recommendation for either version of this lens, IMO.
ClaremontPhoto
07-02-2007, 22:52
Won't you miss the wideness of the 25 from Voigtlander? I'd replace your stolen with like for like - or even the 21mm with an R4 camera.
OurManInTangier
07-02-2007, 23:55
Jon my stolen Voigtlander was a 35mm. I only have, sorry - had, two lenses a 50mm and my 35mm so I will be replacing like for like.
At some point in the far off hazy future I'd like to get a 21, maybe a 28 and at the other end a 70 or 90mm...again should I have the money maybe both.
Once I get back to having two lenses I may actually find, as I was beginning to feel before one was stolen, that I need two camera bodies. I'm sure many will see this as unnecessary but the way that I move and work I think only then would I make the most of the two lenses. Before I usually found that I stuck with whatever lens I had on the camera for the whole time I was shooting, that way I could concentrate on looking for images and moving in without having to try and perform a quick lens change once I'd seen something unfolding and decided I really needed the other lens - usually missing the moment as a result.
Noel, back in 1978 I was threatened with physical violence: but the tripod I was carrying, and which I pulled out of my bag, dissuaded the bad man. I still have the tripod, though I haven't ever used it as a weapon.
While on 35 mm lenses. I got a Jupiter 12 (from Oleg K.) last week, and the half dozen test shots I have taken are more than reassuring. The diaphragm adjustment is a little difficult without my glasses, as is reading the focussed distance so as to adjust the parallax setting on the finder.
Simon
I carry (as you saw) 2x Kiev, but normally both have 35mm (J12), this is useful when you get to end of 36 frames, or when the kiev breaks, I broke one on Saturday! So I dont swap cameras frequently or have two around my neck (as I have seem with Capa).
What make was your bag as it did not look like a photo bag?
Paysam
The J12 suffers from the Zeiss heritage, I find the diaphram moves too easily off what you set it to, I normally use a filter and a hood so it is more exposed to disturbance.
I never adjust the finder, the click stop at infinity is not secure enough for my liking.
All of my J12 are ok, one needs a rebuild becuase it distorts, I think it is missing a shim, it is still sharp.
Noel
Good luck in finding a new 35mm. I know what you mean about that Canon 50/1,8. I woe and lament selling mine! :)
Noel, the bag was a small army surplus satchel I believe.
Simon, once some money clears this week let me know your address (via pm) - I'll go about the surplus shop in swindon and sort you a new satchel/bag. It's not a new lens, but it's a step closer to reclaiming all you lost.
markinlondon
07-03-2007, 03:43
Simon, I find that if I carry one body and multiple lenses I just get bogged down with choices. The two bodies I was using on Saturday had different film in them but of the same speed to avoid getting too confused. I also had a 90mm with me that only saw the light when we were comparing kit in the pubs.
Ash
Thanks - so I need a good army surplus store I water proof and add closed cell foam.
Noel
P.S. I'll lend you a lens hood the next outing we share
OurManInTangier
07-03-2007, 05:32
Ash - Thanks for the generous offer but I've got a number of similar bags that I bought at the same time - I think they were £7 from an ebay store...that's why I wasn't too fussed about the bag itself being taken ( just the contents!)
Ash/Noel - The bag that I had was quite good as it had three compartments - a main one that could hold, just, two rangefinders with lenses, a tall slim one that I kept my CV 35mm in and a back compartment where film, lightmeter and notepad etc were kept. I even had room to put some foam padding from a proper camera bag in. I've actually been wondering that if it weren't for the Leica hanging around my neck at the time if the thief would have bothered looking at it twice?!
I'll have a look on ebay and see if I can find the name of the seller - its a fixed price not an auction and they arrive very quickly.
Mark - Its too tempting to take out loads of kit at any one time isn't it, as you say it just gives you too many options and means you lug unnecessary gear around. I've got a Billingham 335 (??, I can never remember the numbers ) for my daily pro gear and I lug so much round as with the different types of work I might undertake in the same day it is necessary...but I hate it and it will no doubt come back to haunt me later in life!
ClaremontPhoto
07-03-2007, 06:43
Oh! I need new glasses, I read 25mm. Sorry for that
Noel, my J-12 (screw, not Contax) has a recessed front element and does not appear to need a hood. I was speaking of an accessory turret finder (Liechtenstein, not FSU) which has no click stops.
I keep my R/F stuff in a bag with no padding and no compartments. Each thing has its place, but even when there is moving about I can identify each by touch. There is a certain reluctance to change lenses while working, and sometimes laziness wins.
Paysam
Using B&W I sometimes use yellow filters, and then use a step ring and a Oly rigid rubber 28mm lens hood. Without a filter the lens is hooded sufficiently, except if the sun is too close to the frame edge when they will flare.
Noel
Simon, no joy finding a surplus in Bath (I went on a quick trip today) - I didn't even snap any photo's!!!
I'll try and have a look tomorrow in the one in Swindon.
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