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i ran a few shots through my Zorki 5 and Industar 50 a few days ago. I had no idea if it was OK, so i just shot a few pics in the garden. I used APX400S dev'd in ID11. The scan unmodified. Do you think that the "glow" in the possibly overdone highlights is due to unclean elements?
I quite like it, although it ain't that sharp here, a sort of vintage look?
Dave.............
The lens should produce normal photos unless it gets flare problems, it should pass the flash light tests. Mine are similar in performance to the coated Elmar from same period, it will also flare... I allus use a hood...
Noel
freeranger
06-14-2007, 13:11
Here is a shot from my collapsible Industar 50, almost into direct sunlight. I was pretty amazed that it came out the way it did.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/449665480_bc161a61b0_b.jpg
Nice shot freeranger, well positioned in the frame. Thanks for posting here.
i ran a few shots through my Zorki 5 and Industar 50 a few days ago. I had no idea if it was OK, so i just shot a few pics in the garden. I used APX400S dev'd in ID11. The scan unmodified. Do you think that the "glow" in the possibly overdone highlights is due to unclean elements?
I quite like it, although it ain't that sharp here, a sort of vintage look?
Dave.............
I got the same glow with my Industar 50 (m42 mount), but it's full of scratches and allmost all the coating on the back element is scratched off. But i really love the look the lens produce, gives my pictures kind of a pre WW2 style. It would have been fun to try a mint exemplary of the lens, wonder if it is the scratching that makes the look I like or the lens.
John Robertson
06-18-2007, 18:16
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/TheBin2.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/StrangeShapes.jpg
Mine is fairly flare resistant, sharp and one of my favourite lenses.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/Fredbare.jpg
It produces lovely images with a "certain" look!!
I have a rigid I-50/3.5. I wonder how it is different from the collapsible I-50.
Raid
Nice shot freeranger, well positioned in the frame. Thanks for posting here.
Slight correction ; that photograph by freeranger is absolutely superb and one of the very best that I've seen anywhere for a very long time - did I mention superb ? ?
John Robertson
06-19-2007, 04:21
I have a rigid I-50/3.5. I wonder how it is different from the collapsible I-50.
Raid
Optically identical!!! So should produce the same results. There can be diferences depending on which factory in Russia produced it. Mine was made at LZOS Lutkarenko factory has the "c" inside a circle and triangle trademark. They were made also in Kazan, Arsenal(Kiev) and KMZ factories. Probably others as well.
John: I have taken only a few shots with the I-50, and I am amazed at the sharpness of this lens. I just completed a roll with the lens a few days ago, so I will have more examples to show here.
raid
John Robertson
06-19-2007, 15:35
John: I have taken only a few shots with the I-50, and I am amazed at the sharpness of this lens. I just completed a roll with the lens a few days ago, so I will have more examples to show here.
raid
Look forward to that Raid, its one of my favourite 50mm lenses, the others are my f2 Taylor Hobson, and on my Arette,the Xenar. I would be hard pressed to say which is the best!!
Its also pretty good with color!!
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/RedBouys.jpg
John.
The Taylor Hobson is an unusual lens that is hard to find.
John Robertson
06-19-2007, 19:59
The Taylor Hobson is an unusual lens that is hard to find.
Yes I was lucky, I bought it new in 1980, they were being sold off as excess stock by Cooke optics who own Taylor Hobson. Cost me £30, a good purchase. I didn't use it for years, it lay in a drawer in its original packaging till I bought the Bessa, when I "rediscovered " it. Its a beautiful piece of workmanship but boy is it heavy!!!
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/Outfitforawalk.jpg
All the best Raid,
John.
P.S. It collapses safely on the Bessa R2, and makes the camera slim but heavy!!
rick oleson
06-19-2007, 20:12
I have an I-22 and a couple of I-50s, and I have always noticed and liked the "glow". It's not unsharp, and not flarey like an uncoated lens, but still quite atmospheric and an excellent lens for pictures of people and for nostalgic subjects (one of my favorites is a shot of a shiny stainless steel Streamliner steam locomotive that I saw someone post online some years back ... seemed to be coming out of a dream.....)
Blank288
06-20-2007, 12:27
Here a shot with a '52 I-22 (Zorki-1), last summer in a French park on a dark, rainy afternoon. I really like the rendering of these tessar-type lenses. I too have a rigid I-50 which came with my Zorki-6. It's a fine lens too.
John Robertson
06-20-2007, 17:42
I have been a keen photographer for over 50yrs now, (yes I am that old,) I started before I was even a teenager!!
What I find so ironic about thread like this on RFF and other forums, is the very belated appreciation of these and other FSU lenses.
I well remember the sneering comments I got from older members of the Dundee Photographic Society when I arrived in 1962 with my Fed 2, the aged buffers with their Contaxes, Leicas and Rollies could barely conceal their mirth when they saw me useing the camera with the collapsible Industar and also my Orion-15.
I had the last laugh though that year, I won the trophy for photographer of the year!!!:D
I just hated feeling smug:rolleyes:
Later in the 70's and 80's I worked part -time in a friends camera shop, and sadly in the late 80's we couldn't give tham away!!! I hate to think how many were trashed, I saved a small collection of J8's J12's and non collapsible Industars, which recently I have dispersed to friends, I wish I had saved more!!
John,
John.
This was a nice gesture from you, John, and I am sure that the recipients of your FSU lenses thank you for your gift. In the 80's I was a graduate student who had not yet learned of RF cameras. I was learning photography with my Canon AE-1. I could not afford the AE-1 Program.
Raid
rick oleson
06-20-2007, 18:15
Hi John:
One reason for the belated appreciation is belated discovery. Here in the USA, Russian equipment was virtually nonexistent until the past 5 years or so when it has come in through eBay. I know it was much different in Europe, but this stuff is still pretty new to us.
John Robertson
06-20-2007, 18:20
Very true Rick, I do remember seeing Zeniths on sale in Saskatoon Canada in 1972, obviously they didn't illegally migrate south:eek:
John Robertson
06-20-2007, 18:22
This was a nice gesture from you, John, and I am sure that the recipients of your FSU lenses thank you for your gift. In the 80's I was a graduate student who had not yet learned of RF cameras. I was learning photography with my Canon AE-1. I could not afford the AE-1 Program.
Raid
Ah, I see!! a mere kid compared to me, ;)
I have a rigid Industar 50 which I bought in Europe about 40 years ago. It exhibits flare just like Fidget's even though it is coated and unscratched and I use a hood. On the other hand my collapsible one aquired last year on Ebay appears sharper and shows no sign of flare. I am at a loss to explain it.
Kurt M.
John Robertson
06-20-2007, 19:13
have a look through the front of the lenses, quite often FSU lenses don't have the edges of the lens elements "blackened" When you look through the front of the Industar on my Fed 50, the lens elements have white edges, unlike the collapsible 50, and consequently it has a tendency to flare.
whether this is an oversight, or a cost cutting exercise, I don't know!!
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/Fed50.jpg
I had a Lubitel with a lens like this, I dismantled the lens, a simple job on this camera, blackened the edges of the elements with a black marker pen, and re-assembled. It made a dramatic difference.
I don't know if would tackle this on a more complicated lens though!!
Ah, I see!! a mere kid compared to me, ;)
John: So I am a very young 52 year old kiddo! :D
Raid
have a look through the front of the lenses, quite often FSU lenses don't have the edges of the lens elements "blackened" When you look through the front of the Industar on my Fed 50, the lens elements have white edges, unlike the collapsible 50, and consequently it has a tendency to flare.
whether this is an oversight, or a cost cutting exercise, I don't know!!
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/JohnRobertson/Fed50.jpg
I had a Lubitel with a lens like this, I dismantled the lens, a simple job on this camera, blackened the edges of the elements with a black marker pen, and re-assembled. It made a dramatic difference.
I don't know if would tackle this on a more complicated lens though!!
John,
There was a similar comment on the Nikon Forum where it was mentioned that Nikkor lenses have blackened interiors while some FSU lenses don't. This is interesting to know, and useful when a lens can be easily opened for a blackening job as you have described.
Raid
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