New to R-TLR, Film advance question

[R|M|D Photography]

I just got a Rolleiflex Automat Model 3 and the guy at the camera shop appearantly loaded the film wrong and showed me how to advance it wrong as well.

I have read some similar models instructions and have noticed a few things and just want some clearification.

1. When he loaded it I saw he put the film over the bottom roller and not under it.

2. He said to advance it you just crank the knob till it stopps.

Well, when I was shooting a bit later I was cranking the knob and it was not stopping. Also the frame counter was not changing.

Was the frame counter issue because of the film not loaded under the roller?

Am I correct that to advance the film I do one complete clockwise turn (and it should stop) and then one complete counter clockwise turn?

I get that from here
http://yandr.50megs.com/rollei/automat/page8-9.jpg

[Kristopher]

Hi!

Welcom to Rolleiflex TLR, you won't regret it!

1- Youhave to pass the film under the roller. Then wind the crank and it will stop.

2-When shooting, wind the crank clockwise, it will do half a complete turn then counter clockwise. You will hear a click.

3-When the frame is ready, the crank is locked, you can't move it no more.

Remember that if you want to use the 1/500 speed, youhave to select it before winding the crank, it's a separate shutter mecanism. Its to same with the slow speeds and bulb up to 1/15. But, if you have choosed a slow speed before winding and that you want a normal speed, you can change it up, its the reverse maneuver that is impossible to do!

Good luck!

Kris, proud Rolleiflex user!

[R|M|D Photography]

Thanks! With the half a clockwise turn, will it stop or do I just know to go half a turn then back?

[Vics]

I don't know if I'm just reiterating what's already been said, but:
pass the film backing between the two feeler rollers at the bottom, insert the leader into the top spool, turn the crank about 3/4 of a turn and close the back. Now wind the film on until it stops. Before it stops you will feel one small click of resistance as the film itself passes between the feeler rollers, engaging the counter. Don't stop winding when you feel that click, just keep going until the crank stops. Then wind the other way until it stops. Now you're ready for the first frame. (Keep in mind the previous post that you must select the 1/500 speed BEFORE winding the film.) After shooting the first picture, wind on til the crank stops, then back til it stops, Now you're ready for number two. At the end of the roll, the crank will just keep going when you wind it. Go around a few times, then open the back, take out the top spool with the film, lick & stick the seal on it, and move the lower spool to the top and re-load.
Caution: Never force anything. Hint: Outdoors, keep a medium yellow filter on the lens all the time. I don't do that with my 35mm cameras, but I really like it on the Rollei, because the picture area is so big that I always get a lot of sky, and the yellow filter seems to really improve the sky color and the definition of clouds. Of course I'm just talking about black & white. I shoot Tri-X and I find it's nice to take the stop off the film speed-- shoot it at 200 with the K2.
You're gonna LOVE this camera! Enjoy!
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