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schow
04-14-2007, 09:18
Hi Folks,
I wasn't sure where to put this thread since I shot these pics with a bessa R3A and a Jupiter 9. Anyhow, I thought some folks might be interested in seeing what the J-9 can do close up and wide open.


I do love my hibiscus flowers, but I sure wish I could film them better.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/244/458864454_4f2b8a7bb3.jpg


A strawberry I left for the birds to pick at.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/254/458877973_754b2ba4a0.jpg





Personally, I think I may have to stick with an aperture between 2.8 and 4 in terms of the OOF or bokeh. The bokeh here at f2 just looks to blobby and amorphous to me.


Sherm

laptoprob
04-14-2007, 09:21
Do you have a comparison of the different apertures, Sherm?
I am happy to have a good copy of this marvellous lens.

schow
04-14-2007, 10:52
Hi Rob,
I do have a couple of other pics. Nothing scientific, mind you.

This is almost identical to the third shot. The aperture is somewhere in between 2.8-4.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/458933890_78740e0222.jpg


This is 2.8
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/423741583_445c38c5c6.jpg

laptoprob
04-14-2007, 14:18
I am planning to do a comparison test between at least the Jupiter 9 and the Tele Elmarit fat one, maybe the two 135's as well. The black uncoated Elmar and the coated chrome Hektor. I definitely want wide open shots. Maybe tomorrow...

NickTrop
04-14-2007, 16:59
I don't have the ltm Jupiter 9 but I do have it in M42. Man, I love that lens. My SLR is practically a fixed lens camera. The Jupiter 9 is almost always on it these days. Wonderful lens.

Nokton48
04-14-2007, 17:14
Great photos. So the sweet spot is about f3.5.

Man, can't wait to get going with my J-9.

Yesterday I shipped it to Fedka, it's ungoing an interior cleaning and collimation.

Should be back in a week.

NickTrop
04-14-2007, 17:28
Yes forgot to mention, niiice pics.

Keith
04-14-2007, 17:31
I was messing around with my J3 last weekend and was curious to see how it was at min focus and max aperture?

They are a surprising lens and I can't believe I used to be so wary of buying one .. and it's not like they cost an arm and a leg!

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/KievIIHorses_19.jpg

schow
04-14-2007, 19:13
Thanks guys. Yeah, the J-9 is great. I almost want to make it my standard to go lens even though it's an 85mm!

Keith, I'm eying a J-3 myself. Your pics don't help!
Are those little horses for carousels? Reminds me of motion with them all lined up like that.

Keith
04-14-2007, 19:29
Thanks guys. Yeah, the J-9 is great. I almost want to make it my standard to go lens even though it's an 85mm!

Keith, I'm eying a J-3 myself. Your pics don't help!
Are those little horses for carousels? Reminds me of motion with them all lined up like that.

Yes ... they're off a kid's merry go round. A friend of mine was repainting them for a customer and I couldn't resist lining them up for a pic before they went back to their normal lives!

After seeing your shots I lust for the J9 for my Kiev II! :p

mjflory
04-15-2007, 21:02
Sherm, those are lovely pictures... Looks like you live in a colorful place! I don't mind the out-of-focus areas in the wide-open shots at all. I find it easier to focus my attention on the hibiscus in the wide-open shot, in fact, and the J9 certainly seems to yield a sharp image at that aperture.

I've wanted to try my Jupiter 9 in Kiev/Contax mount. It looks like it should be everything I've hoped for.

schow
04-18-2007, 08:27
Hi Michael,
I think I actually messed up one of the pictures while rearranging things on my flickr. This is the comparison I meant for people to see.

Wide Open:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/464156669_fc1f93eceb.jpg

Between 2.8-4:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/458933890_78740e0222.jpg

mjflory
04-18-2007, 20:53
I'm trying to decide which I like better. I think the answer is... both! Each one has its virtues, its own character.

I've been trying to learn a little about lens design and to learn to see the difference it makes in images. When I looked at your pictures it seemed to me that I could see something "Sonnar-like" in the out-of-focus areas: they don't seem perfectly smooth and featureless, but instead seem to have a "painterly" character, as if the background were painted in little strokes. (My description may be the thing that's really out of focus, but I'm not sure how else to put it.) In any case, I was pleased to discover that a Jupiter-9 is indeed considered a Sonnar-type lens, which is one with a relatively small number of elements among which is a cemented triplet. So perhaps I'm making progress in my lens study...

Thanks so much for posting the pictures!

Nokton48
04-19-2007, 02:51
Fedka's repair guy received my J9 yesterday.

Got another email last night- Lens is done and shipping out. That was fast.

Got a silver Canon 85mm "Torpedo" Viewfinder to use with the J9.