some kiev 4am pics

[back alley]

no great art but the camera works!
i found i missed a few shots not being familiar with the controls. my finger kept getting in the way of the window so the rf patch was gone.
my framing was waaay off with a couple of shots, missing either bottom or side bits that i thought i had included.
i also tried some kodak portra b&w c41. after only one roll i don't like it much so far. contrast seems lower than xp2. of course it was dumb to try a new film with an unknown lens (jupiter 8m)

joe

[wlewisiii]

Nice to see it works well. I hope you're enjoying the Kievside... :)

So do you feel the need for a Jupiter 12 yet? If so, PM me - I've got one for cheap.

William

[back alley]

william, you are evil!

how cheap?

which one is the 12 again?

joe

[wlewisiii]

35mm/2.8 ... it's a nice lens optically, it could use a relube job but is fully usable. I got it for like $15+shipping so I'm not needing much out of it. Or, I'm always looking for yellow filters (49 or 43mm) ... :)

William

[back alley]

i happen to have a red filter in 43mm but no yellow.
actually i have 2.
a nice hoya with black rim and a gorgeous kenko with a chrome rim, i think it older but very nice.

tempted?

my only 49mm is a vivitar uv/haze.
i could throw it in with one of the reds...

joe

[wlewisiii]

Sounds good. It's been a while since I've done the heavy contrast of a Red - maybe with my SC Skopar 35/2.5, that red and a landscape in late winter... Mmmm. I like that thought.

PM me your address again, I'm not sure i still have it.

William

[back alley]

done!

which red, black or chrome rim?
and the uv also, i assume?

joe

[taffer]

#At this time, Joe's Canon Ps start to look at him with a raised eyebrow...#

[wlewisiii]

Nah, they know a passing fling won't remove them from joe's heart... LOL.

William

[back alley]

i knew oscar would comment on this!
ok, so i have already changed from what i previously said about getting another lens.
but oscar, i didn't need 2 red 43mm filters or that 49mm uv filter either.
and william had this poor 35/2.8 just collecting dust...

i just picked up one of the ps and dry fired a shot.
the feeling was electric, like when you first kiss a lovely freckled red haired woman.

ok, maybe not EXACTLY like that...but the p has nothing to worry about.

joe

[taffer]

Joe, GET William's J12, the Brian in me is now saying this to you, SERIOUSLY

:)

"like when you first kiss a lovely freckled red haired woman"

LOL ! One must be careful with what's said here, some moderators have very good memory :D

[back alley]

oscar, it's a done deal!
we worked out a trade.

and as far as memory goes, i remember every red head i have ever met.
(and there have been a few)
joe

[Pherdinand]

Joe, what's going on? You've got the Kiev, now more lenses...then, you've put your eye on that black yashica GT too... and the canonet...

[back alley]

the small rf is for a friend at work.

i promised her i could find something nice and one to grow with for around 50 bucks.

joe

[Pherdinand]

you should go with the canonet then. It's not that the yashica is aperture priority only - the problem is, there's no indication whatsoever of the shutter speed he selectwill , except the "too slow" and "too fast" lamps.

[back alley]

good points.

i have not heard back re. the canonet yet.

joe

[Doug]

Joe, yep, you'll NEED that Jupiter-12! Nice 2.8/35mm with very protruding rear element, vulnerable to damage so be careful! Here's a shot pretty much backlit showing the lens's resistance to flare. Ilford XP1 at 400 with 1-stop push I think, Kiev 4a. Not edited except to rotate 2-deg right and resize.

The house had just been trucked to that location some 10 miles from its original place in town right across the street from me. Then I got interested in that zigzaggy fence line... ;)

[taffer]

"and as far as memory goes, i remember every red head i have ever me"

they are hard to forget, aren't they ? ;)

I've had a love-hate story with my... J12, sometimes I've found it to be incredibly susceptible to flare when used in side lighting conditions, mine is a black Olegized one, from 1989 I think. Some other times I've simply loved the results, well I guess it's the 'old vs. new' lens story :)

Both have their good and bad points.

Nice shot Doug !

[back alley]

thanks for the support guys, on the j-12, yeah just what i need!! lol

after my outing yesterday, i'm thinking of treating it like a 50 so i don't keep cutting the edges too short.
and nice shot doug.

joe

[Pherdinand]

yes, i like that shot too.

[Brian Sweeney]

Uh Oh. I see trouble brewing in the BackAlley household. The Kiev is sailing into a volley of Canon Fire. The Canonator and Twin-P's will be on the move, and they carry the big guns.

http://www.russojapanesewar.com/

[back alley]

so far no shots have been fired.
i do sometimes wonder just WHY i have this need to collect more cameras than i could possibly shoot in one session.

the canon p is my ideal camera right now, i like everything about it.
the 7 is a great back up as i can use the lovey 85 and the 135 w/o external finders.

this should be enough to keep a shooter happy, yrt the 'collector'/shooter in me seems to want more all of the time.
this needs to stop as it does nothing to make me happy and causes me worry at times.

maybe rover was right about selling off the extras to keep the decisions simple.

what i need is a warm day & good walk ( p in hand) to clear the cobwebs.

joe

[doubs43]

Here's a full-frame picture I took with my Kiev-4A and 53mm J-8. The film is Agfa APX-100 Pro developed in Rodinal 1:25.

It's not an easy picture to work with because of the extreme contrast between the shadows and the sunlight areas. I think the J-8 did quite well with a tough scene.

Walker

[Doug]

Looks very good, Walker; good tonal qualities with the bias toward shadow detail.

[sockeyed]

Hee hee, I sold Joe a Kiev. Now he's picking up a J-12. Next, it'll be a J-9. I'd say a Zorki was next, but I've already sold him on of those too, ostensibly 'for a friend'.

You're going to need an accessory finder for that J-12, though (if you don't already have one). The russian ones aren't bad.

[back alley]

now now ben, don't get too lightheaded here. lol!

i'm gonna try and fake it without an external finder. i don't like them much.
i'll just look thru the finder and think big.

joe

[Doug]

Yep, Sockeyed, I think you're right! Joe, after you think big for a while I bet you'll look for one of these to buy... (With a CV 35mm finder already, I just had to get the "matching" finder for the J-12!)

[Roman]

Unfortunately, those Russian 35mm finders usually go for almost as much money as the lens itself...

Roman

[Pherdinand]

Joe - you've got up sooo early just to take pics with your Kiev?:D

[back alley]

?????

joe

[Pherdinand]

"some kiev 4am pics "
sorry, dumb joke...:rolleyes:

[back alley]

ah!
yes a groaner for sure.
but i missed it completely, thanks for clearing that up for me.

feeling really dumb, joe walks away muttering, drinking his first coffee of the day...

joe