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usccharles
03-15-2007, 21:24
Am I stupid? SOmeone help.
So I've been pondering this ever since i started using my M8. I do love my film bodies, but i seriously see no reason to use them any more with my M8 around. i have a Konica Hexar RF and M6TTL.
Should i keep them for a rainy day or should i sell them and buy a nice lens? they're just sitting at home catching dust all day.
:confused:
back alley
03-15-2007, 21:25
maybe keep one as a backup, sell one and still buy a nice lens.
usccharles
03-15-2007, 21:26
its not to say that i'm done with film though. i still have my R6.2 and my Rollei 35. it just in terms of range finder cameras, i see no reason not to opt for my M8 instead of the other bodies when it comes time to take pictues.
I sold my m6 to afford the m8 as well as a contax system. When something is sitting around doing nothing it is time to sell Good Luck David
photogdave
03-15-2007, 21:35
If you think you will ever need a range finder camera that is less noisy than the M8 (in terms of shutter and image quality at ISO3200) then keep one of the film cameras.
usccharles
03-15-2007, 21:35
maybe keep one as a backup, sell one and still buy a nice lens.
good idea. which one would you let go, the Hexar or M6? its weird but i'm leaning towards keeping the hexar and selling the M6...
mackigator
03-15-2007, 21:47
If you want to sell the Hexar, I've got some cash and a CV 25/4 Snapshot Skopar that are looking for a new home!
RF-Addict
03-15-2007, 22:14
I have realized over all these years that I like coming back to my older cameras every now and then. I will use them for a couple of months and really enjoy them and then they go back into the drawer until I get the urge again. I have never sold a camera or a lens that I felt strongly about - even if I thought I might never use it again and it turns out that I do use them. I love digital, but I also love film and I could not envision to dump my film gear. I have a Canon AE-1 - it was my very first SLR and I bought it brand new with the little money I had back then. Just recently I resurrected it and its two lenses to shoot IR film - it still worked great and it felt great working with this old, but timeless camera again. Maybe I am just too attached to my cameras and lenses:angel:
And yes, every sain and normal person tells me that I have too many cameras, but what the heck do they know:D :D :D
Leicabug
03-15-2007, 22:18
The more I use my M8, the more I feel that I can live without film cameras.
I used to sell each of my old cameras to help pay for each new one. For sentimental reasons I guess, a couple of years ago I started to buy back each model I once possessed. The digital age made them cheap and I got some awesomely nice, exc condition classics. I still use my DSLR and L-series glass and admit that for pure image quality the new gear can't be beat. But I rediscovered film and the thrill of opening a package of prints returned from the lab or the wet B&W film coming out of the developing tank. I'm now heavily addicted and suffer serious RF GAS and have a collection of around 20 old film cameras. So careful, sell your stuff now, but never, ever look back!!
Sailor Ted
03-16-2007, 02:20
If you think you will ever need a range finder camera that is less noisy than the M8 (in terms of shutter and image quality at ISO3200) then keep one of the film cameras.
Thanks for the tip- which 3200 film would your recommend? I need to do some low (LOW) light color photography and wanted to shoot film due to film's stellar performance in this regard.
mfunnell
03-16-2007, 02:56
Thanks for the tip- which 3200 film would your recommend? I need to do some low (LOW) light color photography and wanted to shoot film due to film's stellar performance in this regard.I've only shot one roll but I was quite impressed with Fuji Superia 1600 (shot as such):
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/405406613_69d1294717_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfunnell/405406613/)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/422924852_7057d2b4b4_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mfunnell/422924852/)
It let me stop down to get some DOF for the 1st, and allowed me to get the 2nd (it was really quite dark by then).
...Mike
P.S. sorry if I'm too far off-topic for the thread, but just thought I'd respond to the question.
usccharles
03-16-2007, 03:01
Thanks for the tip- which 3200 film would your recommend? I need to do some low (LOW) light color photography and wanted to shoot film due to film's stellar performance in this regard.
come on mr ted, don't be mean. i don't think he meant it that way. i don't trust any color film past ISO400. but with b/w photography there is always iford/kodak 3200 films. image quality wise, grainy, but you do get the extra shutter speed advantage than the M8's 2500.
interestingly, i haven't used my Noctilux at night since i got my M8 (only during the day with my ND filter) so i don't know how the 2500 iso will do to my shutter speed when i'm out in the dark. i did take alot of night time street pictures with my film body with the Nocti and 3200 film.
p.s. but now that i think about it, 3200 iso and 2500 iso isn't much of a difference is it? probably won't make any difference with my shutter speed, maybe half a stop. maybe i should just sell both of my film cameras...
Doctor Zero
03-16-2007, 03:09
This may not be a useful comment at all. I should also add that I don't have or use any digital cameras, least of all an M8. I also don't own any M film bodies. But here goes.
There are two reasons I will stay with film for the time being. The first is that I love the simplicity of all my cameras. I set the aperture. I set the shutter speed. I focus. I take the picture. That's all. No need to worry about jpg or raw compression, colour profiles, image sizes, white balance on top of the normal photographic settings. (yes, you can set these things and stop worrying, but I would feel unsure whether or not the settings were ideal for just this particular picture and I would end up fiddling with them)
Until recently, therefore, I used to say that if someone made a digital camera, ideally small like a rangefinder, with only the basic settings, I would buy that camera and go digital. I guess (not speaking from experience) the RD-1 and M8 come close. However, and this is my second issue, I next realised that I really don't want to spend hours on a computer to get the most out of my images. (and yes, I guess you can automate it to some extent - but I would feel guilty not using all of the bells and whistles that I could use)
Re-reading my own message, it sounds more like I have some serious hangups about wanting to fiddle with settings than that my objections are anything photographic :D . Nah - :rolleyes: as long as the missus is happy living with my foibles, who cares, right?
Good luck with your decision!
Doctor Zero
Am I stupid? SOmeone help.
So I've been pondering this ever since i started using my M8. I do love my film bodies, but i seriously see no reason to use them any more with my M8 around. i have a Konica Hexar RF and M6TTL.
Should i keep them for a rainy day or should i sell them and buy a nice lens? they're just sitting at home catching dust all day.
:confused:
I don't think you are stupid - I've done exactly that (M6, MP and Bronica RF645). The main reason for me was time - I find the digital workflow easier and less time consuming than developing and scanning. Also most of the photographs (images) I've taken over the last few years that I like the most were either taken on the R-D1 or the Olympus E1. I'd made the decision to move away from film regardless of the M8. Don't get me wrong, I do like film and if I had more time I would probably rethink my decision. However, I also found having so many choices counter productive and as well as thinning out the film stuff I've also sold a few lenses recently. The jury is out on whether or not I will keep the R-D1 now I have an M8 that seems OK - again this is for simplicity, not because I need to sell it - mind you I do really like the way the R-D1 handles, so may just keep it as a back up to the M8. I still have my Canon F1 for those times when I feel like shooting film, which I do now and again.
Not sure if this rambling post helps, just my two pennies worth.
I echo Doctor Zero's points almost literally.
Why don't you see how the next 6 months or so shakes out. Keep what you use and part with what you don't. Either decision need not be permanent. If a couple years down the road you find yourself drawn to film, then go get an M6. You already have the lenses.
mfunnell
03-16-2007, 05:06
Not sure if this rambling post helps, just my two pennies worth.I had a much longer, much more rambling message that all can thank me for not posting. The one thing I will point out (and you may be very different from me in this regard) is that every major camera I've owned has had something going for it that I really loved and that I wouldn't be without - even when something "better" came along. For example, many years ago I spent a long time, and went well out of my way, to replace an OM-4 I had stolen from me in a break-in. This despite the fact that I knew I wouldn't use it all that much. I just loved that camera, I worked well with it, and I didn't want to be without one. Even though I'd only really use it a couple of times a year, I'm very glad I have it.
Despite being very new to RF cameras, I've fallen in love with my Hexar RF and kow I simply wouldn't be without one. Partly that's the camera and partly that's film as well (which I've gone back to for some things, despite its many inconveniences). Should my GAS get even more out-of-control than it already is :eek: , and should I acquire an M8 (the attractions of which I can all too easily see), I would not give up that camera, nor would I give up putting the occasional roll of Delta 400 through it.
Your mileage may really vary, but I'd think carefully about it before I rid myself of an old friend of a camera, whichever one(s) of those really hold your affections.
...Mike
usccharles,
Sounds like you like a bit more automation since you are thinking of keeping that Hexar. I myself like to go the other route. To complement my M8, I have the MP. While not fully mechanical, it can still shoot w/o batteries. Something about this simplicity appeals to me. I also carry a Sekonic Twinmate light meter just in case. Also, you may need something with a very quiet shutter sound someday. I'd keep the M6 if I were you.
Richard Marks
03-16-2007, 05:16
Hi
I actually sold my hasselblad system to fund my M8 whilst keeping my MP. I have since sold my MP to buy more leica glass
The price of hassy stuff is so weak in the Uk that I have just purchased a 503 body for 2/3 of the price of the one i sold 3 months ago! I suspect i will slowly resuscitate that system via e-bay. I still love black and white dark room work (its therapeutic). So really i have shifted the bulk of ,my capital to digital but hold a medium format film interest. (Oh and still have my 5x4 for landscapes).
Selling ones film geardoes not meen goodnye for ever. I expect you can re buy cheeper later!
Richard
SteveM(PA)
03-16-2007, 06:36
usccharles, I really love full-frame Noctilux pics, I can't imagine not seeing those beautiful dark edges.
good idea. which one would you let go, the Hexar or M6? its weird but i'm leaning towards keeping the hexar and selling the M6...My M7 back up is an M6TTL. When I needed it a few months ago it failed and I wasn't impressed. Keep the Hexar and sell the M6TTL.
Sailor Ted
03-16-2007, 07:22
come on mr ted, don't be mean. i don't think he meant it that way. i don't trust any color film past ISO400. but with b/w photography there is always iford/kodak 3200 films. image quality wise, grainy, but you do get the extra shutter speed advantage than the M8's 2500.
interestingly, i haven't used my Noctilux at night since i got my M8 (only during the day with my ND filter) so i don't know how the 2500 iso will do to my shutter speed when i'm out in the dark. i did take alot of night time street pictures with my film body with the Nocti and 3200 film.
p.s. but now that i think about it, 3200 iso and 2500 iso isn't much of a difference is it? probably won't make any difference with my shutter speed, maybe half a stop. maybe i should just sell both of my film cameras...
Trojan Charlie,
Not being mean, really. Just pointing out that the M8 has better high ISO performance then film, especially where color is concerned- IMO.
Mfunnell, Nice shots at 1600, which is basically the same as the M8 at 1250. Nice as they are however the M8 would have less grain but this does not take away from what you posted which look fine to me.
SteveM(PA), Regarding dark edges and the Noctilux- process your digital images with Lightroom and you can have all the dark edges you want (or not.) It's your call. See below (not shot with a Noctilux or even the M8 but an example of software induced light fall off possible with Lightroom).
If I were you, I would keep the M6TTL, but that's just me. I have the M8 and really love it, but film is a totally different tool in the toolbox, and the Leica lenses are the best in all of 35mm, so I would say why not keep the M6 body to use those lenses if you ever feel like shooting film.
I am currently taking a fine art printing class with Brian Young at ICP. He is a master printer, and he prints for Bruce Davidson, James Nachtwey, Eugene Richards, Magnum, the estate of Ernst Haas etc etc. He is BIG TIME. Anyway, the point is that in the class I am learning what film is really capable of...it is pretty amazing. I printed some 20x24's taken by an MP and 35/1.4 ASPH on Tri-X in Rodinal 1:100. It is pretty shocking. The grain is there if you look close, but it is sharp and salt and pepper. The whole photo still looks sharp and highly detailed, even with your nose to it. And this is at 20x24 with an ISO 400 film in a grainy developer! But if you use fiber paper, a perfectly aligned enlarger, glass carrier, good enlarging lens and a bunch of techniques you can make shockingly good enlargements. We have been doing things like flashing (exposing the whole paper for a 1/2 second or more to put some tone in the paper to help with burning highlights), two bath developing (dektol and selectol soft), toning, bleaching and so on. Anyway, the whole point is that film is a totally different ballgame, and one that can be as beautiful if not more so on many occasions. As great as the M8 is (and it is really great), it cannot shoot film. That means that its black and white will never be what you can get in the darkroom (note, not better or worse, just different), nor can you use images from it to present a slide show that could even come close to a good film slide show.
It seems to me that if you have good lenses for the M8, it makes sense to keep the M6 around as well so that you can shoot film if you like. The M6 just seems like a better choice than the R6.2 (depending on what lenses you have for it) or the Rollei 35.
FWIW, this is the photo that I printed 20x24 in the darkroom. I wish I could show all of you the print. It really looks great. I am not arrogant, just proud and surprised!
http://www.stuartrichardson.com/jietai-mae.jpg
I hate to be maudlin but no M-compatible film body will have much future value if it is anything other than a mint collectible with all its boxes and literature intact. Alas, the average film Leica or Bessa or Hexar camera won't bring much cash.
We've already seen this in the Nikon and Canon worlds as the real value of their older SLRs plummeted as soon as their DSLRs obtained traction in the pro market. The Leica M world is smaller surely but it's value history won't be much different than the already-established trend.
If you waited until now to sell your M6 or M7 in an effort to raise cash for your M8, you may have already waited too long IMHO.
(I continue to keep a Bessa, Nikon film scanner and a few rolls of film in the fridge if only for sentiments sake.)
-g
bobkonos
03-16-2007, 10:22
Sell 'em...my checkbook is out. Seriously, this is why as a dedicated film and rangefinder-SLR user I love digital-it brings more quality cameras to the marketplace.
I don't know what you shoot and the level of your work or how you feel about photography. Photograph is my living and also what i do for enjoyment. Strange to have your occupation as your source of enjoyment isn't it? Anyway, my studio has been all digital for 7 year and almost 8 now. When I first got into digital I was star struck with what digital could do. I adopted it for my work 100% and was phasing it into my personal work. I started selling much of my film equipment including my much loved Linhof Master Technica that I had used for 29 years, my Focomat enlarger, my Nikon film equipment, my Pentax 6x7 equipment my 3 Rollei SL66 systems, my 6x17 Fuji and many more pieces of premium equipement thinking I would never shoot film again. I commented to my wife that this is the end of film for me. After a while of using digital for everything I suddenly had a call to reality. Digital wasn't perfect, it had limits on printing quality vs darkroom printing and print size, it was time consuming technical work behind the computer and archiving was a problem compared to film. I since have regretted selling my film gear and have repurchased the main part of the system and added more film gear then before. Certainly digital has it's place in the commercial world but it's not perfect and good for everything. I'm back in the film business now and have no regrets. I'm even trying to get my clients back into using some film. There's a place for both film and digital. Neither replaces the other but complements each other.
The moral to the story, don't rush out and make a decision that you'll be sorry for later.
Rob Skeoch
03-16-2007, 10:54
I would keep them for now... the M8 hasn't been out long enough. You might find that in 6 months you enjoy shooting some film for whatever reason.
i would put the film cameras in a drawer and sit on them for at least 6 months. If you decide to sell then at least you've had a cooling off period.
-Rob skeoch
Am I stupid? SOmeone help.
So I've been pondering this ever since i started using my M8. I do love my film bodies, but i seriously see no reason to use them any more with my M8 around. i have a Konica Hexar RF and M6TTL.
Should i keep them for a rainy day or should i sell them and buy a nice lens? they're just sitting at home catching dust all day.
:confused:
So, you managed to get the cash to buy an M8, and keep these terrific tools?
Keep them until you feel, when holding them in your hands, that "nice lens" would feel worth selling them.
I have 25 year-old paint brushes that I know well and would never "sell" because I bought another. Who would buy a used paint brush? Go shoot a couple rolls now that the M8 has shown you another view and you'll understand: choice, a great freedom you still have.
rgds,
Dave
usccharles
03-16-2007, 22:07
thank you for all your generous comments :)
but with so many good advice i am now more confused with what i should do
:bang:
i guess the reason i'm thinking of selling my film RFs is because the reason i got into film in the first place was not because i liked shooting film, but because i loved the compactness of film cameras. I started out shooting digital, point-and-shoots first, a 20D, and now a 5D with more lenses than i really need. but the more and more i got into photography, the more i realized the sheer size of the 5D with all its big lenses was one of the main reasons i didn't take me camera out as much. i wanted something smaller that i could lug around with me everywhere. so i got a Hexar and was in love.
i got the M6 alittle later and did enjoy it (and still do) very much, but now with the M8, I have a camera that is as small and discreet as my Hexar and M6, and i get to use all my dope Leica glass. so i carry it everywhere i go and really haven't looked back. the M6/Hexars were great cameras but i really hate waiting to get my film developed when compared to the quickness of just inserting the card in my computer and getting all my images right then and there.
i want to keep the R6.2 because like the how it was with my RFs, when i feel like shooting with a SLR, i always seem to opt for the R6.2 instead of the 5D, mainly for its small size. size really is a big thing for me because i love taking pictures while being discreet about it. Hence my love for the Rollei 35 too.
I've considered selling the 5D too but i may just sell some of the lenses and keep it. I definately cant do Macro with my M8 and i think that is where my 5D shines, macro shots.
over time i've realized my favorite focal lengths are 35mm and 50mm, i got that covered with my 28/2.8 and 35/1.4. and i have my noctilux. that basically is all i need 99% of the time and my M8 covers this AOK.
sorry for the long rambling but thank you again for your comments. I'm going to sleep on this for a few days and hopefully i'll come up with an answer.
FYI - I've Never sold any camera gear that i have ever bought except my 20D. So i'm alittle nervous, alittle guilty even with even thinking of parting with all my cherished gear. but alas, sometimes you have clean house. :o
Thanks for the tip- which 3200 film would your recommend? I need to do some low (LOW) light color photography and wanted to shoot film due to film's stellar performance in this regard.
This is Fuji 800 Super-G circa 1996 pushed to ISO 2,000.
It ran in the New York Times as well as some 300 papers and magzines world-wide, won a big AP award and was made into a 20x30 limited edition poster which looked spectacular. No one complained about noise or grain, it is full frame too...:-)
This was over ten years ago, I would imagine you could push the 1,600 easily to 3,200 and get great results.
What fun it is to be able to eek out the best of both worlds, film and digital!
usccharles, I really love full-frame Noctilux pics, I can't imagine not seeing those beautiful dark edges.
And if you don't like them, you can crop them out. This is why I will only use full frame sensors.
Gawd I love my pair of M6's..:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :angel:
SteveM(PA), Regarding dark edges and the Noctilux- process your digital images with Lightroom and you can have all the dark edges you want (or not.) It's your call. See below (not shot with a Noctilux or even the M8 but an example of software induced light fall off possible with Lightroom).
But you will lose that $5,000 peripherial bokeh.
No thanks..;)
Great post!
Thanks for taking the time to share the details. I shot over 1,000 digital images today on two advertising shoots. But there is a reason I have hundreds of rolls of 35mm and 120 black and white film in a freezer, your post sums it up nicely.
If I were you, I would keep the M6TTL, but that's just me. I have the M8 and really love it, but film is a totally different tool in the toolbox, and the Leica lenses are the best in all of 35mm, so I would say why not keep the M6 body to use those lenses if you ever feel like shooting film.
I am currently taking a fine art printing class with Brian Young at ICP. He is a master printer, and he prints for Bruce Davidson, James Nachtwey, Eugene Richards, Magnum, the estate of Ernst Haas etc etc. He is BIG TIME. Anyway, the point is that in the class I am learning what film is really capable of...it is pretty amazing. I printed some 20x24's taken by an MP and 35/1.4 ASPH on Tri-X in Rodinal 1:100. It is pretty shocking. The grain is there if you look close, but it is sharp and salt and pepper. The whole photo still looks sharp and highly detailed, even with your nose to it. And this is at 20x24 with an ISO 400 film in a grainy developer! But if you use fiber paper, a perfectly aligned enlarger, glass carrier, good enlarging lens and a bunch of techniques you can make shockingly good enlargements. We have been doing things like flashing (exposing the whole paper for a 1/2 second or more to put some tone in the paper to help with burning highlights), two bath developing (dektol and selectol soft), toning, bleaching and so on. Anyway, the whole point is that film is a totally different ballgame, and one that can be as beautiful if not more so on many occasions. As great as the M8 is (and it is really great), it cannot shoot film. That means that its black and white will never be what you can get in the darkroom (note, not better or worse, just different), nor can you use images from it to present a slide show that could even come close to a good film slide show.
It seems to me that if you have good lenses for the M8, it makes sense to keep the M6 around as well so that you can shoot film if you like. The M6 just seems like a better choice than the R6.2 (depending on what lenses you have for it) or the Rollei 35.
FWIW, this is the photo that I printed 20x24 in the darkroom. I wish I could show all of you the print. It really looks great. I am not arrogant, just proud and surprised!
charlesfoto
03-17-2007, 04:23
You've obviously got such a varied response that it's going to be up to you...and you, only, who can decide what's best for you. The M8 is definitely not for me, the M7 my everyday camera. When digital is required for work...for speed of results, not for quality, I use a D200, a DSLR much more flexible in usage than the M8. Is the look of digital what you want, or do you still prefer the look of film? That's always been my prime concern, and for me, film wins, hands down. But that's me...you need to decide for yourself.
Philinflash
03-17-2007, 08:41
Am I stupid? SOmeone help.
So I've been pondering this ever since i started using my M8. I do love my film bodies, but i seriously see no reason to use them any more with my M8 around. i have a Konica Hexar RF and M6TTL.
Should i keep them for a rainy day or should i sell them and buy a nice lens? they're just sitting at home catching dust all day.
:confused:
Of course, we're all a little bit stupid because that's why we're here!
You may not want to keep your film cameras when "they" stop producing film. There are signs of that day approaching, although I note that buggy-whips are still available, too.
You might be disappointed with what the film cameras bring in on the used market. A friend of mine just bought a "suitcase full" of Mimaya 645 gear (many lenses and accessories) for $200. I don't know what he expects to do with it.
A better alternative might be to donate the stuff to an art or photography school and take a tax writeoff. You can probably get a friendler valuation than you could get in hard cash.
But, in the end, I would bet you will value the stuff more than the market does and you will keep it if you have the storage capacity.
Philip
Am I stupid? SOmeone help.
So I've been pondering this ever since i started using my M8. I do love my film bodies, but i seriously see no reason to use them any more with my M8 around. i have a Konica Hexar RF and M6TTL.
Should i keep them for a rainy day or should i sell them and buy a nice lens? they're just sitting at home catching dust all day.
:confused:
I recall a couple years ago like-new Hexar RF's were going for around $500. Now that Konica-Minolta is history and service/parts for the RF are probably more problematic than the Epson RD1, I can't imagine it'd fetch enough to make it worth selling...but weird things happen on fleabay:D I'd probably keep it. The M8 hasn't exactly proved itself to be a bulletproof tank yet :rolleyes:
I think you'd be crazy to sell your film gear. You'll need somthing for backup when your M8 is back in Solms for repair.
Gilles L.
03-19-2007, 19:50
This is my first post to this forum but I am a long time lurker... thank you for all your threads, you often answered many of my questions.
I recently purchased the M8 and I will be selling my M7 very soon. I love my M7 and I use to keep it my side at all time, but negatives are pilling up and I am not finding the quiet and peaceful time required to process it all. As miles of film strip developed, I stopped carrying the camera.
I have been shooting a 5D both for work and personally, with Canon and Leica-R lenses. But the camera is rather bulky and I must say that when it comes to personal work, I find myself leaving the camera at home most of the time. The 5D is a brilliant camera, delivering outstanding results. But compared to a compact and well-built M, well, the camera is not as practical to haul, and the Leica is definitely more fun to work with.
Until recently I thought the M8 was not for me and that the M7 and 5D combo was a perfect match. However, I travel a lot and I never know which gear to take, and pretty much never have the right camera and lens with me :bang: .... I think the M8 is the solution in my case, allowing me to carry a compact digital M system with me. The results of the M8 are also outstanding, and I am as satisfied with the images of the M8 as I am with the 5D.
My work requires macrophotography and I therefore thought I would be keeping the 5D for this purpose. As noted above by Charles, macro is not the M8 forte. However, I just bought a visoflex and bellows and will be experimenting with it in the next few weeks. If the results are as good as with the 5D, I will definitely consider selling the canon gear as well.
At this stage, selling my M7 will allow me to fund more lenses for the M8. Selling the 5D and my lenses would definitely allow me to invest in a pretty complete M system, but at this time I am still concerned about the reliability of the camera and therefore I still need a little bit more assurance that the M8 will not die on me in the middle of a job...
boilerdoc2
03-20-2007, 08:19
Keep both. Film has a certain indefineable feel to it that digital hasn't matched yet. Almost too perfect is the digital. As far as macro goes the M8 works really well on the Viso/ bellows set up. I also have the 90 Macro-m with close up attachment. The quality of the print blew me away. And that's up to 1/2 life size (with the 1.33x conversion of the M8).
Steve
However, and this is my second issue, I next realised that I really don't want to spend hours on a computer to get the most out of my images.
Doctor Zero
In that case you really have a problem;) The M8 files need very little postprocessing. In fact, running them though C1 is normally enough, making for a 1 minute per shot workflow......Unless of course, you want to have some digital darkroom fun with them. This one took me considerably less than five minutes...:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/jaapv/leuning-1.jpg
Gilles L.
03-20-2007, 20:01
You are right JAAP, I should also have mentioned above that one big difference between the M8 and the 5D, is that the M8 requires hardly any post-processing.
Steve, since you have the viso+bellows and the macro-elmar, could you let me know what the main difference is in terms of results, usage and restrictions? I just picked the viso+bellows, and I am looking to buy either the elmar or elmarit 90, which has the detachable elements. Shouldn't i go instead with the collapsible macro-elmar?
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