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back alley
02-13-2005, 09:01
does the jupiter 8 made for the kiev have the same filter size and hood size as a ltm jupiter 8.

also, those with an 8, do you use a hood and do you think it's necessity.

thanks,
joe

Brian Sweeney
02-13-2005, 09:04
The filter size for the J8 in Kiev mount is 40.5mm. I have not used a hood with mine, but use it in its "never-ready case" with the flap positioned to block the sun. Read that trick in a 1940's "35mm Photographic Technique" book. Now I know why the old cases had non-removable tops.

lkgroup
02-13-2005, 09:10
I use a step up filter ring 40.5 to 49 and than another step up ring 49 to 52. This allows me to use my 52mm filters and also gives a nice small hood which looks really nice. The hood fits on my J-8 Kiev and LTM j-8 and also the Helios lens for the kiev.

I haven't felt a great need for a lens hood normally.

Leo

Rick Beckrich
02-13-2005, 09:26
Joe - I also use the 40.5-49 step-up ring,
but then hang one of my many OM
shades on the front. The 100mm rubber
shade seems to work with no viginetting (sp?)
without blocking out the viewfinder image.

Enjoy!

Rick

taffer
02-13-2005, 09:33
Joe !

If you have a snap-on shade with series VI adapter for the Canon 50/1.8 it will fit the J8 as well, the external diameter is the same, 42mm.

GeneW
02-13-2005, 09:37
Joe, I'm a 'hoodie' -- I use a hood on every lens I shoot with. I do a lot of shooting outdoors towards the sun and I've yet to find a lens that doesn't flare to some degree under those circumstances. Even in less stressful lighting lenses tend to pick up some microflare if no hood is used. (Bill Mattocks ran a long thread on this a while back)

Because the J8 is a mainline lens for me, I splurged on a very nice metal CV 40.5mm hood with cap. The hood is probably worth more than the lens, but I love it! :D

Gene

back alley
02-13-2005, 09:38
oscar,
you mean a push on hood?

i have that square hood that i overpaid for, it's a push on made for 50/1.9 & 35/3.5, and it's a series vi / 42 mm.

excellent, thanks oscar you just saved me some money.

joe

back alley
02-13-2005, 09:41
gene,
i also prefer and use a hood on all my lenses (except the 35/2.8 canon - can't find one that fits & works).

is your a cv hood? for what lens was that made?
or a cq (cameraquest) hood?

joe

GeneW
02-13-2005, 09:44
Joe, it's a generic hood with cap, in 40.5mm thread. Purchased from CameraQuest. (The cap has Voigtlander written on it -- maybe only the cap is CV??)

Gene

back alley
02-13-2005, 09:47
i think cq has the hoods made and the cv cap happens to fit.

that hood was 30 bucks u.s. if i recall correctly!
i'm just too cheap for that. ha!

i'm hoping oscar's tip works, it should, and my folly purchase will work for something other than reminding me to not get excited while bidding.

joe

taffer
02-13-2005, 10:25
Another option, is you want something more modern is to grab one of those nice 40.5mm Hoya vented hoods. I got a 43mm one for my pancake and then attached a 40.5-43 adapter to it. Vented hoods are way cool :cool: :p

lkgroup
02-13-2005, 10:43
Where did you get the 40.5mm Hoya vented hoods. I got a 43mm one for my pancake and then attached a 40.5-43 adapter to it.

I like your idea, but need to know where to look.

Leo

back alley
02-13-2005, 10:44
are they hard to find, i don't remember seeing any and are they pricey?

joe

taffer
02-13-2005, 10:50
Leo I also got a 43mm one (needed one in fact) but I've seen 40.5 Hoya/Kenko ones on eBay from time to time and at kevincameras.com too. Not cheap though, I thought the KK ones were $40 each...

On the bay, it depends but you can expect paying $20-$40 for one, the price changes a lot and I've even seen FF (for free) ones on some forums sometimes... There's also a Walz vented in both 40.5 and 43mm diameter, even a 40mm for Canon if I'm not wrong...

MikeLeFevre
02-13-2005, 10:57
the 40.5mm vented hoods have been going for US$60-70 recently on the bay.
M.

back alley
02-13-2005, 11:03
the 40.5mm vented hoods have been going for US$60-70 recently on the bay.
M.

ok, that's just nuts!

i am waaaay too cheap to ever pay that much.

joe

taffer
02-13-2005, 11:06
:eek: Suddenly I've developed double affection for my 43mm one :D

Solinar
02-13-2005, 12:55
Joe, it's a generic hood with cap, in 40.5mm thread. Purchased from CameraQuest. (The cap has Voigtlander written on it -- maybe only the cap is CV??)

Gene


Hello Gene, do you have an image of that generic hood & cap. I may be interested in getting one even if it is 30 bucks.

My current screw-in hood was less than $20, but I don't trust using it in the soft aluminum filter threads of the Jupiter 8. Here is an image of it.

GeneW
02-13-2005, 13:07
Hello Gene, do you have an image of that generic hood & cap. I may be interested in getting one even if it is 30 bucks.

My current screw-in hood was less than $20, but I don't trust using it in the soft aluminum filter threads of the Jupiter 8. Here is an image of it.
Here's the listing on cq:

http://www.cameraquest.com/frames/4saleLeica.htm#NEW%20Metal%20Hoods%20for%20Classic %20Leica%20Lenses!

Joe is correct -- they're generic, with the option of purchasing a CV hood cap that fits over it snugly.

Here's the one I have -- I picked up the black version because I use it mainly on a black J8.

Richard Black
02-13-2005, 13:10
I, too, shoot with a lens hood on most of the time. I found this on E**y,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=78999&item=3873381990&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW&tc=photo
It lists for $6.95 and is the one I use. I am not related to or work for the seller. It is rubber so it is not as cool as the metals one. I bid on a metal 40.5 made for some of the German cameras, but it went for more than I wanted to pay, and I was willing to go to $40.00. :bang:

Solinar
02-13-2005, 13:15
Thanks Gene. I'm looking for something with a flat profile. The ideal hood would be one like what I showed above, but a clamp-on or slip-on version.

peter_n
02-13-2005, 17:47
I use hoods on all my lenses. Just looking at my J-8 here and it has a 40.5mm Hoya lens hood that is not vented - nice hood.

My J-8 also has a genuwine Lytkarino Optical Glass medium yellow filter on it. :)

back alley
02-13-2005, 18:05
there is one on ebay now, that is made for the jupiter, from a russian seller but i'm torn thinking my 'extra' hood will work.
plus i don't know how much use this russian outfit is gonna get from me.

aaaggghhhhh...decisions...


joe

doubs43
02-13-2005, 18:55
There are numerous sellers on ebay who offer metal lens hoods in many diameters for about $5 - $8 each. Two that come to mind off-hand are: OldEnglishChina (OEC) and HeavyStar. More can be found by searching for filters, lens hoods, step-up rings etc.

For my 40.5mm lens I've gotten 40.5 - 49mm step-up rings and that permits me to use 49mm filters and hoods. If 49mm is too large, then go with a 40.5 - 43 or 46 step-up ring and buy the appropriate hoods and filters.

OEC sells a brand called DKE and I've found their tele-hoods to be very nice. The wide-angle hood I bought is much too wide and covers the rangefinder but will work well on an SLR lens of 20mm focal length or greater. I suppose I could slot the hood so that my rangefinder looks through. Another job for my Dremel Tool? Another hood I have is made of a thicker-walled aluminum but is quite nice. None of them cost me over $7.95 plus a couple of dollars shipping. If bought together, shipping is even cheaper.

They don't carry the big names but they work just as well.

Walker

back alley
02-14-2005, 16:52
my zorki arrived today with the industar 61 ld lens.
i tried my canon push on hood (50/1.9 - 35/3.5) and it fits perfectly. and as a bonus the cutout in the hood lines up perfectly with the vf, the hood just disappears.

can't wait to try it on the kiev/jupiter 8.

joe

rbiemer
02-15-2005, 06:02
Gene, VERY nice camera! Looks sorta familiar...I'll recall where I've seen it eventually! :D
Rob

GeneW
02-15-2005, 08:47
Gene, VERY nice camera! Looks sorta familiar...I'll recall where I've seen it eventually! :D
Rob
LOL, Rob! :D

Gene