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Ash
02-26-2007, 10:48
Don't read this ManGo!!!

I decided to 'do the impossible' and run a roll of expired Fuji NPH400 through the Zeiss Nettar, and develop it in rodinal!!

1:60 fresh bottle of Rodinal

Not really worthwhile, to be honest. Maybe worthwhile for the kicks but it has a REALLY dense base. Otherwise ok-ish on the surface - the negative looks fine held up to light. Course a dark base means the scanner cried as I forced it to get the image out, and I'm not yet sure what would happen under an enlarger.


The scanner pulled this out but the cropping means half the image has disappeared!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-4-3.jpg



And here's a less than perfect exposure with a little tweaking

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-1a-2.jpg



So there we go. Both E6* aaaand C41 chemistry can be replaced with b&w chemicals, but the base is the biggest problem.

*attempted about a year ago

Ewoud
02-26-2007, 10:58
:O I thougt it imposible.. Whats next..

Developing in coffee, or have you done that already?

ClaremontPhoto
02-26-2007, 11:10
I like E6 film in C41 minilab, but I'd never considered this combo. Thank you for trying, and for one I like the result.

like2fiddle
02-26-2007, 11:48
Ash, I'd like to see what these look like printed with an enlarger. I just bought several rolls of expired kodak Supra 100 and PJ 400 and was thinking about the cost of development and the risk of expired color film. It seems as if every day someone is posting something here about running c41 film through B&W developers. My darkroom is still torn apart, but when I get it back together (soon I hope) I intend to experiment a little with HC-110 and D76 with C41 film.

Ash
02-26-2007, 11:56
Every day? ...To be honest I haven't seen any other posts on c-41 through other chemistry. Have I missed something?

I won't have any printed images for a long while.

like2fiddle
02-26-2007, 12:09
Well, perhaps not every day, but it seems to come up more frequently than one might expect. If it isn't developing C41 in B&W chemicals, it's printing C41 developed negatives on Bromide paper or what have you. I just like it when folks challenge conventional methods and get some sort of unexpected positive result.


Every day? ...To be honest I haven't seen any other posts on c-41 through other chemistry. Have I missed something?

I won't have any printed images for a long while.

nikola
02-26-2007, 14:15
I just found this (attachement) on hr.rec.fotografija.binaries news group.

Praktica BX 20
Prakticar 135/2.8
Paradies 400 ASA C41 @ 100 ASA
Rodinal 1+25 10 min

colinh
02-26-2007, 14:17
Well, I guess it's all just silver-halide chemistry, with the silver-halide coupled with various sensitizing dyes. So maybe it's not so surprising that one gets *something*.

Must read up on the chemistry one day...


colin

Freneticist
02-26-2007, 17:00
Ash,
NRB posted some pics about two weeks ago, that look really awesome. There are some other links to experiments with alternate developing. Here is one that I like of his. The post is 17days ago, called "color to b&w". Really interesting thread.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41199&d=1171790989