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hi all,
I am pretty excited about a LTM J-9 that I got recently. The look of portraits at f2 or f2.8 is really something different (for me). So I am thinking of getting the m42 version as well and a canon adapter to use it on my canon EOS for portraits.
has anyone used this combo? thanks
No one has used their J-9 on canon slr? is that a bad idea?
darkkavenger
11-28-2006, 07:49
try checking tags on flickr? ;)
rolleistef
11-28-2006, 07:50
They are quite a lot of people who's been using it on a french photo forum, and from what I've heard and seen, the results look pretty good. The only think is that you'll get a deeper dof and it'll turn your 85 into a 120 (1.5 crop factor?) but the picture quality is very good nonetheless.
You might also consider buying that very useful focusing confirmation chip, that is meant to be stuck on the m42-eos adapter ring.
What Eos have you got? (they have different names in the US and I've never been able to remember which...)
Anyway the big advantage of canon upon nikon is that you keep the metering.
have fun
stéphane
darkkavenger
11-28-2006, 07:50
look at this shot : http://www.flickr.com/photos/garythegit/300184951/
and more photos here : http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=jupiter-9%20canon&w=all
thanks,
the examples look really good. exactly what i like :D I will try getting one on ebay and using it with digital rebel.
Where do you get a good J9?
darkkavenger
11-28-2006, 08:29
get an SLR M39 or a M42 Jupiter-9...
dazedgonebye
11-28-2006, 08:37
I briefly owned a J9 in M42. I was not pleased with the results on my digital rebel. But with the copy to copy variability of FSU lenses, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from my experience alone.
ZorkiKat
11-29-2006, 11:10
No one has used their J-9 on canon slr? is that a bad idea?
Lubitel
Do J-9 on Canon DSLRs count? The J-9 is a personal favourite and I often use it for portraiture.
You'll find some J-9 portraits here:
http://pusangputi.multiply.com/photos/album/1
The first 10 images were made with an adapted Canon DSLR (using an M42-EOS mount adapter); the last two were on BW film in an M42 SLR.
Jay
How do you focus manually with the rebel? It's not easy... :p
ZorkiKat
11-29-2006, 23:34
How do you focus manually with the rebel? It's not easy... :p
It's really difficult to focus manually on EOS Canon cameras. Their screens were made for composing, not so much for manual focusing. The case is even more true with Canon 300\350D DSLRs where the pentaprism is replaced with a pentamirror which makes the screen image even less defined. I've installed
split screens (one bought from an on-line maker and the other made from a scrapped camera part) on these cameras which made manual focusing easier.
Right now, I'm considering to get an M42-EOS adapter with a chip which will
activate the EOS focus confirmation.
Jay
darkkavenger
11-30-2006, 00:30
Jay, I visited your site the past week and found your photos to be wonderful :) I would eventually mount a 180/2.8 Sonnar on a dSLR instead of a J-9, however :)
ZorkiKat
11-30-2006, 01:21
Jay, I visited your site the past week and found your photos to be wonderful :) I would eventually mount a 180/2.8 Sonnar on a dSLR instead of a J-9, however :)
Thanks Max. Good thing that the Canon DSLRs have metal lens mounts, unlike the film versions which the 300/350D were derived from: hefty lenses might pull the mount off the camera. :p The longest/biggest lens which I've put on these cameras is the 300mm Tair from a Fotosnajper. Is the 180/2,8 Sonnar heavy?
Jay
great photos jay!
makes me want to get that J-9 even more :P
dazedgonebye
11-30-2006, 05:14
How do you focus manually with the rebel? It's not easy... :p
I have focused many thousands of shots with various manual focus lenses on my 300D. Some of my favorite shots are with a 50mm lens and extension tubes with the lens nearly wide open...very narrow dof.
You get used to it.
whats an extention tube? is that for macro?
dazedgonebye
11-30-2006, 05:34
Yes, extension tubes allow you to close focus at the cost of infinity focus.
More to the point here though...close focus means a very narrow dof and challenging focus situation. Which can still be managed even with recent EOS viewfinders.
jamiewakeham
11-30-2006, 05:35
TIs the 180/2,8 Sonnar heavy?
Jay
Oh yes... very!
I've used mine pretty successfully on an EOS600.
Jamie
Zorkiiglaza
11-30-2006, 06:02
Has anyone tried the Kiev 15 TTl with the Jupiter 9? The camera is delicate next to FSU rangefinders and is heavy like a Nikkormat but comes with a great assortment of lenses .
Sorry to go askew in topic here...
Thanks Jay and Steve. I have two R lenses, 50 lux and 28 something or other here that I want to use.. and I've tried manually focusing with some of my L glass before plopping down on R-EOS, and I couldn't ever get them on focus properly with my 300d. I had read about the split screens, but then, those take away from auto-exposure ability? My leica R4 has the split screen, and I still have difficulty with it. Since I'm planning on upgrading the dribble next year to something better... I may just wait before getting the split screen on EOS?
ZorkiKat
11-30-2006, 08:18
Sorry to go askew in topic here...
I had read about the split screens, but then, those take away from auto-exposure ability? My leica R4 has the split screen, and I still have difficulty with it. Since I'm planning on upgrading the dribble next year to something better... I may just wait before getting the split screen on EOS?
The only thing lost in the conversion is the little red dots which glow in the viewfinder screen, at least with the 300/350D. Otherwise everything remains the same: AF lenses would still focus automatically, AE functions would be the same. With a non-EOS lens though, AE is limited aperture priority. Shutter priority and program modes won't work.
The focus screens are great. But I think there is something in the low-priced construction of the 300/350D which hampers the screen's full efficiency. In these cameras, the reflex mirror doesn't seem to be too accurate. Its flipping movement would make it rest at times, at slightly different positions. This sort of compromise isn't critical with AF- the EOS AF module is independent of the viewing mirror. It uses a secondary mirror behind the main one. An observation which led to this theory is that in exposures made in rapid sequences (the mirror with flip and flop in quick succession) , 3 to 4 in 10 would be out of focus, despite appearing to be correctly focused, according to the split-screen. This would suggest that the mirror isn't really returning all the time at its designated seating position.
A better alternative I think, is to use an adapter with a 'dandelion' chip which
"wakes" the camera's autofocus system. Normally, adapted, non-EOS lenses are not recognised by the camera. The chip is attached to the adapter and engages with the contacts on the camera. The camera then is 'fooled into thinking' that there is an EOS lens on manual mode mounted on it and activates the electronic rangefinder/focus confirmation LED. The chipped adapters I've seen are mostly for M42, but this may probably be available for other mount adapters as well.
Jay
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