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A non-pixelated and longer version of the M8 shutter sound clip has been posted at http://www.lightmediation.com/blog/index.php?2006/09/06/25-leica-m8-digital-numerique-exclusif.
newyorkone
09-12-2006, 09:31
I personally like the shutter sound. It is very close to the sound of the shutter of the M6TTL.
Gabriel M.A.
09-12-2006, 09:42
I concur, the shutter speed dial sounds much louder in comparison. Nice smooth sound, certainly not bad for an electronic shutter. Hmm.
He says that it's two frames per second ("could be more"...I'm assuming in Continuous Mode) and the shutter is a "vertical shutter". Pas mal le truc.
It's looking good, lost the PC socket for flash though compared to the M7 but I guess thats not a huge problem for me. I can't afford one anyway. Gotta win the lotto first.
camrea looks very solid in his hand... drooll...
edlaurpic
09-12-2006, 10:21
Looking at the new high res video of the M8 being handled, right at the beginning it appears that the individual presses the shutter release and then hesitates before lifting the tip of his finger and this seems to activate the shutter cocking sequence. If this is right, then it means one would be able to take a shot and make only the first sound of the shutter firing and then wait to release one's finger and cock it again. On my my cameras I often take the shot and drop the camera away from my face down to my waist before I use the lever to re-cock it. This could work essentially the same way, but without having to advance a lever...just lift one's finger tip from the button. If I am right, I am delighted about this.
On a slightly negative note I would echo the sentiment of another poster who said that it will be really disappointing if the only way to change ISO and Ex comp is to do so on the LCD screen in a menu. He was also right that this would make the R-d1 more of an M than the M8. On the other hand, it's only Wednesday and there are still two panels in the puzzle that have not been revealed. Right? I am having trouble guessing how one of those might contain some sort of very simple non-menu driven way of changing those values. Let's hope so.
I personally don't understand why the whirring sound after the shot, giving there's no mirror, nor film to reload.
Recocking the shutter maybe ? I guess it could be quieter... well, for a rangefinder :)
I counted 6 frames in 3 sec (2 fps) with about 1 sec for the image to be displayed. Not bad. :cool:
MelanieC
09-12-2006, 10:24
On my monitor, when I try to hit the link it does that spastic resizing thing and moves up a line with the window the size I normally have it -- meaning that I can't click it without resizing the window.
Can I take this opportunity to say I hate hate hate the way links behave on this forum? I don't care what else changes, I am indifferent to color schemes, etc. but the link thing is really annoying.
Gabriel M.A.
09-12-2006, 10:25
Good point. Let's hope there's a "shortcut"; I know I can set the ISO on my Canon 20D with the "SET" button (inside the round dial) when I'm not in the menu; I've set this button as my shortcut button to the ISO setting.
Gabriel M.A.
09-12-2006, 10:27
I guess it could be quieter... well, for a rangefinder :)
It sounds much much much quieter than my Bessa R or Bessa R2. Those two are rangefinders. Last time I checked.
edlaurpic
09-12-2006, 10:30
I am reconsidering a point made a couple of days ago that the size of the round LCD window top left on the camera is way to big just to show remaining shots. Maybe this IS where remaining shots, ISO and ex comp can be seen and changed quickl and easily without having to turn on the rear LCD. And then there is the possibility that the functions will be reight there in the viewfinder . . .crossing my fingers.
Well, if edlaurpic is right (cocking the shutter only after release the finger, like 1Ds' "silent mode" :D) it's a nice feature.
Sadly I guess the person in the video used the B pose (don't know why) and changed to other manual faster speeds just prior to show the single and burst mode.
So judging by the video there's no way to know if cocking the shutter happens instantly or after releasing the finger.
Btw Gabriel, I was referring to the whirring sond after the shot, the shutter sound per se seems quite silent, better than my R-D1 indeed :)
lotto rollover anyone? Tony - we'll go halves on a few lines of numbers yea?
lotto rollover anyone? Tony - we'll go halves on a few lines of numbers yea?
Sounds good to me :)
What are you talking about with this slient mode!? He had the camera on Bulb mode at the start of the video which explained the way the shutter was firing.....
And the tripod mount is located centered to the lens' axis. Finally... ;)
Also keep in mind that this is just some crappy video with presumtously bad audio/video sync so you can't really tell whether there is any shutter lag..
Bob Ross
09-12-2006, 14:01
And the tripod mount is located centered to the lens' axis. Finally... ;)
A truely monumental historic event, indeed:eek: :D
Bob
Mark Norton
09-12-2006, 14:10
camrea looks very solid in his hand... drooll...
Turn-around for you, you were quite recently rubbishing the concept and likely performance of the M8. Your opinions count for nothing IMHO.
Gabriel M.A.
09-12-2006, 14:16
Can I take this opportunity to say I hate hate hate the way links behave on this forum?
Yeah, sometimes it becomes a game of "click me if you can!" Certainly the CSS for each different "look" needs to be revised.
Turn-around for you, you were quite recently rubbishing the concept and likely performance of the M8. Your opinions count for nothing IMHO.
You lie, you lie ! garhasdfhgaadsf.... (melting...)
Bob Parsons
09-12-2006, 14:47
To help put some of you out of your misery: http://tinyurl.com/forv6 :D
And if you click on the continuation link at the end of the article that will be translated. The small menu displays are also an active link to a larger image.
Bob.
DaveKennedy
09-13-2006, 05:28
The whirring sound is the shutter on a long exposure.
This camera is everything I would have hoped for, at least externally. Now are there ANY IMAGES taken with one of these to look at? High ISO?
Dave
You lie, you lie ! garhasdfhgaadsf.... (melting...)
Welcome to the dark side....:D :D
If the image from this camera is no better than the image from my 20D, then I'd say $5000 is a bit too steep of an asking price.
Surely Leica must had something up its sleve in the imaging technology department for their beloved flagship model? I sure hope so! We'll se....
Gabriel M.A.
09-13-2006, 06:54
The whirring sound is the shutter on a long exposure.
This camera is everything I would have hoped for, at least externally. Now are there ANY IMAGES taken with one of these to look at? High ISO?
Oh, there will be lots of mountains and blurry high contrast pics of people smoking, don't worry. ;)
I think the ultimate test would be to use it oneself.
If the image from this camera is no better than the image from my 20D, then I'd say $5000 is a bit too steep of an asking price.
If what I've read about people's DMR experiences, the image quality will be better that the 20D. However, as I've said at least half a dozen times here, there is more to a camera than image quality. Size, weight, ergonomics all are important factors for me. Not to mention that the M8 is a rangefinder and not an SLR--the crucial factor here. In any case, we'll soon put image quality questions to rest.
Regarding cost: I remember reading somewhere that $5000 for at M8 is about 33% more than an M3 cost. Converted into 1954 dollars, that would be $657. Does anyone have access to what an M3 actually sold for?
Nachkebia
09-13-2006, 07:00
Why should be better than 20D? I mean there is no way it can be better, why? because canon has top sensors, because there has been no significent sensor evolution yet, because it has same R module sensor... no? :)
Gabriel M.A.
09-13-2006, 07:07
I know. I never heard anybody complaining about the Honda Goldwing not having four wheels and a roof just like a Hyundai Accent. For the same price, I mean, you should expect the same number of wheels, seats and doors, right? :rolleyes:
Those who do, completely miss the point about having a motorcycle like that.
Nachkebia
09-13-2006, 07:10
same? well, I don`t know how same will it be, 5D is full frame but it`s $3000 :D
Nachkebia
09-13-2006, 07:14
I am very interested in handheld`ing, generaly on digital with crop factor (slr) rule of mm = 1/shutter has to be doubled because small pixel size...
Sorry, not doubled, only 1,33x more.
Btw DMR images are even better than those from 1DsmkII as far as dynamic range and tonality, acutance is better due to lack of AA filter and overall they compete pretty well even for large prints. We are talking about 1,37x 10.5 Mp vs full frame 16.7 Mp.
But if you judge the quality of images only by the noise at 800 and 1600 ISO, well.. yes, Canon has top sensors.
Btw I'm not biased, as I have 1Ds with many L lenses plus a wonderful R-D1 with some CV and Leica ones.
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