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jan contermans
08-28-2006, 12:38
The foto's of the M8 wich caused such a stirr a defenitely not real.
These fotos are for some time on a French Leica site;
http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8.html

There it is stated that these foto's are not defenitive.

A pity, because a think it is a real pretty "weniger is mehr" design.

FrankS
08-28-2006, 12:57
Bingo! Thanks for laying that argument to rest, Jan.

Rich Silfver
08-28-2006, 16:40
Where on that site does it state that these photos are fake?

wooch
08-28-2006, 16:56
The Web page on Summilux seems to translate from French as follows:

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M numerical: first images of M8? by gautier@summilux.net - 26/08/2006 - 07:46:58
Images of the future Leica M8, the numerical first M, circulate on Internet. It is possible that they are not in conformity with reality but they are completely credible and summilux.net (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=fr%7Cen&u=http://www.summilux.net/&prev=/language_tools) presents them to you:
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This most like referencing image from this Forum. The link you refer to is also created on 8/28 which is later than when this is first reported. I don't think Jorge took the picture from this Web Site. ;)

Rich Silfver
08-28-2006, 17:02
Thanks, that's how I read it as well so not sure how this lays ANY argument 'to rest' and how they are 'defenitely not real'??
Jan? Franks?

Skinny McGee
08-28-2006, 17:02
Ok Ok Ok! Wouldn't it be funny If Leica had no intention of putting out the M8.. Instead somewhere in 2006 the Germans found a sence of Humor and made the hole thing up.. Just to make thing easier and laughable while they go out of business...
"Ha ha ha! the joke is on you" . Say the Chairman.. "Boy we really got 'em that time" "Hey Jo nice M8" NOT.. Hee Hee Hee!

FrankS
08-28-2006, 19:08
Thanks, that's how I read it as well so not sure how this lays ANY argument 'to rest' and how they are 'defenitely not real'??
Jan? Franks?

Doesn't the site say non-definative, or whatever in French? So it's a picture of a mock-up that may be different from the production model. We'll all find out soon enough. Maybe it's just my wishful thinking, that this "issue" is laid to rest!

LCT
08-28-2006, 23:34
The foto's of the M8 wich caused such a stirr a defenitely not real. These fotos are for some time on a French Leica site;
http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8.html...
Looks like this French pic has been copied from the one deleted by Jorge.
See the creation date of the pictures.
Best,
LCT

Buze
08-28-2006, 23:35
Image non définitive
Means they still reserve the right to make changes to the looks; it doesn't mean at all that the image is "fake".
It's like "Picture non contractual" in english

Marc-A.
08-29-2006, 00:26
The foto's of the M8 wich caused such a stirr a defenitely not real.
These fotos are for some time on a French Leica site;
http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8.html

There it is stated that these foto's are not defenitive.

A pity, because a think it is a real pretty "weniger is mehr" design.

What is a shame is that you spread complete false information!:mad:
The pictures of the M8 are on this site because I – yes I – opened a thread on Summilux.net about the M8 with a link to RFF. The “non definitive” mention refers to the fact they are not yet official; it does not mean they are fake.
Read the thread on summiluxM8 (http://www.summilux.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8470)
And be more cautious next time!
Marc

jan contermans
08-29-2006, 00:32
well, I thought that the pictures appeared on summiluxnet first, but according to the date ,as said above, it might have been the other way round as well?!

Sorry, probably I've been "jumping to conclusions" then?

Still I have great doubts about these pictures (is the myst. blue dot not to close to the edge?)
We will all know more at 15 sept. I guess,

As Leica has said the digital M will be very close to an M7 in appearence, which is very good, according to my taste.

jan contermans
08-29-2006, 00:40
What is a shame is that you spread complete false information!:mad:
The pictures of the M8 are on this site because I – yes I – opened a thread on Summilux.net about the M8 with a link to RFF. The “non definitive” mention refers to the fact they are not yet official; it does not mean they are fake.
Read the thread on summiluxM8 (http://www.summilux.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8470)
And be more cautious next time!
Marc


Hello Marc,

so if you opened this thread then it is clear i was wrong and made much too quick conclusions. Apologees for that!!

:angel:

Marc-A.
08-29-2006, 00:43
Hello Marc,

so if you opened this thread then it is clear i was wrong and made much too quick conclusions. Apologees for that!!

:angel:

Errare humanum est ;) but be more cautious next time, as I said.
Marc

JT
08-29-2006, 06:51
If you do a google search for m8 and summilux.net you can see what was up on their site by clicking on view cached version.

Macpod
08-29-2006, 06:56
it might be a mock up of the real thing but that 'image' is definately not a 'photo'. Ive seen too many 3D max rendering to know the difference.

Marc-A.
08-29-2006, 08:09
If you do a google search for m8 and summilux.net you can see what was up on their site by clicking on view cached version.

Hi Jorge,
I think you’re referring to another project lead on Summilux.net. Months ago, one of the administrators of the site, Laurent Coignet, started a big project consisting in designing a new Leica M, the M8. It has nothing to do with the Digital Leica. The talented Coignet designed the following M8 with a professional rigour (it is not a photoshop crap):

http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8_summilux.net_filaire.jpg
http://www.summilux.net/photos3/Coignet/modul-10.jpg
http://www.summilux.net/photos3/Coignet/modul-11.jpg

You can find more detail on M8 Summilx.net Project (http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8-summilux.net.html)

Best,

Marc

patrickjames
08-29-2006, 08:13
The "pictures" look like CGI to me.

rvaubel
08-29-2006, 08:41
Hi Jorge,
I think you’re referring to another project lead on Summilux.net. Months ago, one of the administrators of the site, Laurent Coignet, started a big project consisting in designing a new Leica M, the M8. It has nothing to do with the Digital Leica. The talented Coignet designed the following M8 with a professional rigour (it is not a photoshop crap):

http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8_summilux.net_filaire.jpg
http://www.summilux.net/photos3/Coignet/modul-10.jpg
http://www.summilux.net/photos3/Coignet/modul-11.jpg

You can find more detail on M8 Summilx.net Project (http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8-summilux.net.html)

Best,

Marc

I saw this exercise a few months ago myself. One question I had then and, since I don't read French, still have is, whats with the film advance lever? Dic the assume a mechanical shutter like the RD1?

I can hardly what for someone to copy this photo to other sites and claim this is the new M8. What do you want to bet?

Rex

LCT
08-29-2006, 08:46
This "M8" looks like the M2...

phototone
08-29-2006, 08:50
Regardless of whether the photos posted here true to life, or have been retouched, I feel fairly certain they represent what the new M8 will actually look like. Based on all the "official" descriptions of the product, how can it be much different?

Marc-A.
08-29-2006, 09:04
I saw this exercise a few months ago myself. One question I had then and, since I don't read French, still have is, whats with the film advance lever? Dic the assume a mechanical shutter like the RD1?

I can hardly what for someone to copy this photo to other sites and claim this is the new M8. What do you want to bet?

Rex


Hi Rex,
This project is not related to the Digital M8 in any way; it is a film camera project.
Sorry but I didn’t understand your second point; what do you mean exactly?

LCT,
It has features of the M3 (counter), M2 (lever, rewind knob, as on the M3), M5 (same shutter speeds wheel under the lever) … but the result is original. I can’t remember the specifications, but it is a cool camera.

Marc

rvaubel
08-29-2006, 09:30
Hi Rex,
This project is not related to the Digital M8 in any way; it is a film camera project.
Sorry but I didn’t understand your second point; what do you mean exactly?

LCT,
It has features of the M3 (counter), M2 (lever, rewind knob, as on the M3), M5 (same shutter speeds wheel under the lever) … but the result is original. I can’t remember the specifications, but it is a cool camera.

Marc

I know it was a project. But I thought it was a digital project because of the M8 designation. My mistake

My second point is that people trolling the internet for M8 pictures may make the same mistake I did.

Rex

MarkM6
08-29-2006, 12:17
The foto's of the M8 wich caused such a stirr a defenitely not real.
These fotos are for some time on a French Leica site;
http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8.html

There it is stated that these foto's are not defenitive.

A pity, because a think it is a real pretty "weniger is mehr" design.

Mann... your 4th (or was it 5th) post on this forum and you already suck at it!

JoeFriday
08-29-2006, 12:43
better Mann should wait 30 more posts to say something to offend someone?

MarkM6
08-29-2006, 21:08
better Mann should wait 30 more posts to say something to offend someone?

Joe,
I don't know who you are but where I come from one have to be 110% sure before accusing someone or something as a "fake". Not to mention he said it in absolute; "for sure!"

So, my 34th post offend him? So?

He shoud have posted 2nd, 3rd, whaterer necessary edits below his original post.

JoeFriday
08-30-2006, 18:08
Joe,
I don't know who you are
yeah, I think that's pretty obvious

patrickjames
08-30-2006, 18:43
I will put this all to rest. The new Leica M8 will look like a Leica. There, now you know the truth. I can't believe I have held out this long to let you guys in on this fact!

jlw
08-30-2006, 18:56
Look, before we all get to hating each other arguing about what picture is or isn't a fake... attached is a picture of the new M8 that I'm almost completely positive IS a fake. Okay, everybody take a deep breath... isn't it great to have a fake M8 picture which we all can agree is a fake?

rvaubel
08-30-2006, 19:08
[quote=jlw isn't it great to have a fake M8 picture which we all can agree is a fake?[/quote]

Although we may agree it is fake, still, how dare you violate the spirit of the NDA agrrement you didn't sign

Rex

patrickjames
08-30-2006, 22:15
I'm not so sure. That looks like the prototype of the M9.

Gabriel M.A.
08-31-2006, 11:23
What is a shame is that you spread complete false information!:mad:
The pictures of the M8 are on this site because I – yes I – opened a thread on Summilux.net about the M8 with a link to RFF. The “non definitive” mention refers to the fact they are not yet official; it does not mean they are fake.
Read the thread on summiluxM8 (http://www.summilux.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8470)
And be more cautious next time!
Marc

Precisely. Can't read in English, don't expect to get the translation right either.

It is in fact stating that these pictures are out there and are to be taken with a grain of salt. I know that in a mind that lacks shades of grey that means "it's a lie", with the nuance of language and gray area it means just that: "we don't have the facts, but there it is".

It also says "available soon!" --- I think the poster is, how do you say...emm...excited? Not something shared by many. Mais, a chacun le sien.

Gabriel M.A.
08-31-2006, 11:28
I'm not so sure. That looks like the prototype of the M9.
lol -- it's virtually sure to tank if they take that sketch

MarkM6
09-02-2006, 10:13
yeah, I think that's pretty obvious

So that is not you in the avater picture???? :eek:

greggebhardt
09-05-2006, 06:31
I am betting the images posted here are very close to what the M8 looks like.

MP/CLE
09-05-2006, 16:44
I am surprised at the high temper and vitriol caused by a few people daring to post pictures of what the new M8 may look like in 10 days. If the pictures are not accurate, the excitement of the new release will cause all to be forgotten and if they are accurate, you saw it here first. What's the problem? Some panties are really in wads. Or do we get extra points for believing or not believing the veracity of the depicted proposed camera? I must have missed the memo.