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I'm going on a drift-fishing trip on the Grand River in Southern ON tomorrow, great photo-op but there is a bit of white water (nothing major, but after a couple....)...one canoe has tipped in the 8 years or so these fellas have done it.
I want to take my beater M3 and Summarit (the only cam/lens combo I can bear to lose), but any advice on keeping this dry and especially afloat should we tip would be appreciated. Tie a javex bottle to it?
Don't take the the RF..
How do you suppose to focus in a canoe going thru turbulent white water?
Mike, want to borrow my Nikonos III with 35mm lens?
BrianShaw
08-23-2006, 10:31
Mike,
Want to buy my Nikonos IVa with 35mm?
Brian
What's the deal on all the Nikonos offers? They must be great, eh?
Gorgeous scenery down this part of the river (Paris to Cambridge ON), wanted something decent...plus tons of smallmouth and pickerel.
Camtech has a nice little Canonet for $50, he tells me it's working great. Heading down there now.....
captainslack
08-23-2006, 11:25
The Nikonos line was made for underwater photography. Hence, they're waterproof and perfect for your situation.
I must be about as dumb as I look. Back when I was a lot younger and obviously a lot dumber, I carried my Canons (VI-T & EF + lenses) in an Army surplus ammo can. The lid had an O-ring in it and was removable. It was air and water tight. I cut some foam to hold things still when the lid was closed. Naturally the can was tied to the canoe. In flat water the lid was off and I could get to everything easily. I even paddled with a camera around my neck. IF conditions seemed adverse, either fast water or more likely rain, everything went in the can & the lid snapped shut.
This thread reminds me of the recent advice to take a disposable camera on a bike trip. Phooooooooooey I say! Cameras were made to be used. Anywhere. Anytime.
BrianShaw
08-23-2006, 11:44
The Nikonos line was made for underwater photography. Hence, they're waterproof and perfect for your situation.
Plus, they are practically bullet-proof. Only problem is that it's a bit of an expensive disappointment to see them sink to the bottom of the deep-blue sea.
LazyHammock
08-23-2006, 11:59
I've used padded ammo cans for cameras when rafting before, they work well - check them carefully for any leaks. A better option is a small Pelican case (~$30), I've carried my M6 in one inside a backpack while canyoneering (which involved a fair amount of swimming). I like to pack a small towel inside as well to dry off my hands before handling the camera.
Sounds like a fun trip you're taking.
Nick
Picked up the Canonet QL19......they're actually pretty nice, eh? C/w a 45mm F1.9....geez, I would kind of hate to lose this baby on it's first day, too! Seems really built well, but the shutter has a toy-like sound.
My 1st non-Leica RF and I like it...very bad news for the wallet.
GAS strikes in strange and mysterious ways. You'll still need a ziplock bag or 3 to hold the Canon, hey?
Have a great trip. I'm envious! Bring back lots of great Canon pictures! HeHeHe...another convert. :eek:
Have a great trip, eh! This brings back memories of a canoe trip with high school buddies. We shot a shute and one of the canoes buckled. Early stop for the day as it was refiber-glassed. (We came prepared!) One night one of the guys kind of passed out on the ground (for some reason) and we tied him down with string and pegs, Lilliputten-style. Ah, those were the days of adventure! :)
Thanks guys....this one will have to be in colour I'm afraid, hopefully I'll get something good and will post.
Yeah Frank, had one of those crazy trips portaging up some river in northern Algonquin Park in high school. A great teacher we had lied and said we were doing a biological study of flora and fauna, all we did was fish for brook trout and party....good times. I'll never forget the kid who got bit by a snake he caught, and bit it back....the snake wheeled around while still in his jaw and bit him again twice in the cheek and drew blood, all we had to sterilize the punctures was Wiser's 10-year old whiskey. We never stopped laughing for the whole trip....
Like Conrad says: " Ah, glorious youth!"
I'm going on a drift-fishing trip on the Grand River in Southern ON tomorrow, great photo-op but there is a bit of white water (nothing major, but after a couple....)...one canoe has tipped in the 8 years or so these fellas have done it.
Hasselblad, ziplocks and a Pelican case
http://www.maquiling.org/balikbayan/images/banka1.jpg
Rest of pix are here (http://www.maquiling.org/balikbayan), I took lots of pix from a boat and sometimes, salty h20 splashing around. You have to cover it up with your body until you are ready to shoot. If you want to wear it around your neck kind of thing, yeah, I guess you'll need to borrow one of those Nikonos :)
How about getting h20 proof ziplock type housing?
BrianShaw
08-23-2006, 16:54
Picked up the Canonet QL19......they're actually pretty nice, eh?
Oh, drat... I didn't know you would have considered that as an option... otherwise I would have given you mine, that I don't use anymore. Oh well. And about the Nikonos... I guess I'll keep that too. Perhaps you can suggest a place I can buy a canoe... your trip sounds like it will be a lot of fun. Have a great time!
I'll sell you my canoe, Brian. ;)
Al Patterson
08-23-2006, 17:13
Somewhere I have a Pentax 90WR point and shoot that is water resistent. Not as good a lens as anything else mentioned here, but I have had it underwater (water washing over it) and the film survived. Just dry it off and keep on shooting! The lens is so slow though that you need to use 400 ASA film however...
I have taken six canoe rides recently, with three canoe turnovers. Each time I had a Retina IIb fully mechanical camera with me,enjoying the cold water. I took with me a bag for divers to hold stuff dry inside. I placed the Retina in the bag and took the camera out when needed.
Raid
BrianShaw
08-23-2006, 17:31
I'll sell you my canoe, Brian. ;)
Great! But it had better be cheap to make up for the shipping. What's it made of. I had something made of birchbark in mind. :)
BrianShaw
08-23-2006, 17:36
I'll sell you my canoe, Brian. ;)
Hey... I just read all of the earlier posts. I seemed to have missed on of your earlier messages. You're not trying to sell me that canoe with the bend in the middle, are you?
Nope. Different canoe. This one is cedar strip and clear fiberglass. I could just float it down to you. ;)
The modern-day gasketed ammo can is called Lock-n-Lock ... buy 'em at Canadian Tire or some such. When not carrying a camera kit in a canoe, they store food in the fridge and the wife doesn't complain about it being ugly.
Uh, Frank ... definitely don't sell a canoe! Bring it to the Canadian RFF meet next year, wherever that is. You can donate it to the lad who loves paddling the most. :D
BillBingham2
08-24-2006, 04:48
Nikonos III with a 28mm and do worry!!
B2
No damn laughing.
Tips required on drying a Canonet QL19. I guess I should take the film out (will it still be good?). I don't see any water in the lens or viewfinder (yet). It was totally submersed for a few seconds, just didn't have time to prepare it, there were rocks everywhere and the water was low. Two of the three canoes on the trip went over. Thank god I didn't take the M3....
On a better note the fishing was amazing, we must have got 25-30 smallmouths each, my biggest was about a 3 pounder (we were catching and releasing). Got mine on a silver #3 Mepp with a white twister tail.....
My casualties were my Shakespeare rod & reel, and my lucky Leica hat (the river took both of them), and of course the camera.
Other than that a superb trip.....
Sorry, couldn't help it! Welcome back.
Take out the film, place camera in oven on LOW with the back open. Leave oven door slightly ajar.
(Bake until soft, add seasoning to taste. -kidding)
Took the film out (will I still get my shots?), and there is water inside; and some mist/moisture on the interior of the lens.
Go ahead and try developing the film. It should come out well as it's jsut water. Dry off the camera as much as you can with Kleenex/whatever and put in oven for a few hours on LOW.
flashover
08-25-2006, 06:55
good thing you left the Leica at home. Draging the bottom is no fun ( for the camera or the guy who went looking for it )
Thanks Frank, I'll give it a shot.....nothing to lose.
Silica gel packs and a ziplock bag. I rescued a watch that way. You may need a slew of gel packs or there are some types of modern (non rock salt) ice melt that will suck out the moisture. That may also hasten corrosion though.
narsuitus
08-25-2006, 09:11
I have a number of low-cost rangefinder, SLR, and point & shoot “beater” cameras that I can afford to lose or damage but a Leica M3 with a Summarit is not one of them.
However, instead of a “beater,” I am more likely to take my Nikonos III with 35mm lens because it is designed for use above or below water. I would carry the film and/or camera in my small waterproof Pelican case that I think floats if dropped in water.
Another option I would consider is a disposable waterproof camera.
Didn't we do a "save the drowned M3" thread a while ago? I recall that was in salt water, and required a trip to DAG to complete the cure.
I hope the pics come out!
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