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RayPA
08-20-2006, 10:24
Welcome to this critique thread. Please read the purpose statement and the guidelines/ground rules regarding participation.

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The primary purpose of this thread is to provide a forum where photographers can give and receive constructive criticism on one another's photographs. By setting up some basic guidelines we hope that this thread will provide a forum where the give and take of honest constructive criticism can help us become better photographers.

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If you'd like to participate in a critique thread and need some ideas about how to proceed with viewing images critically, you may find this thread helpful:

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sf
08-20-2006, 10:31
but will not be able to post responses until tomorrow.

This is "Crepes" (forgive missing accent).

Bronica RF645, 65mm, HP5 or Fomapan 200 (Arista.edu Ultra 200).

raid
08-20-2006, 10:46
I'm also in. I wonder if there is a maximum number of entrance/person allowed.
These crtitque sessions are enjoyful and adictive.
Raid

raid
08-20-2006, 16:39
Here is my contributed image for crtique by you.

Camera: Minox GT or Olympus XA (in each pocket I had one)
Film: Ilford XP2 Super


Raid

ampguy
08-20-2006, 16:50
i'm in.



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ampguy
08-20-2006, 16:57
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i'm in.



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wlewisiii
08-20-2006, 17:16
I'm in.

Iskra, Reala.

William

jan normandale
08-20-2006, 18:19
is this full yet if not I'll come in too.

here's one I was going to put in the gallery, I'll put it here first.

Taken with a Canonet GIII QL17 ; Fuji 200 ISO generic rebranded film; lab processed and scanned to a CD. Uncropped and 'resized for the web' in PS Elements no sharpening or adjustment of curves.
Titled "Yin - yan: Vespa and bicycle"

raid
08-21-2006, 09:00
but will not be able to post responses until tomorrow.

This is "Crepes" (forgive missing accent).

Bronica RF645, 65mm, HP5 or Fomapan 200 (Arista.edu Ultra 200).


George: I like the picture on the wall. It complements the photo of the lady sitting on the chair and reading a magazine. The photo looks rather dark on my monitor. The light switches behind her head don't look good.

Raid

raid
08-21-2006, 09:02
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ampguy: I like the lines going across the frame in a parallel manner. What could have been done differently here is two things [for me]:
1. Panning to make the kid appear sharp with a blurred background.
2. Let the kid be in the first third and not centered.

Raid

raid
08-21-2006, 09:04
I'm in.

Iskra, Reala.

William


William: The tree on the left bothers me. The photo could have been taken differently to emphasize the cross vertically [maybe].

Raid

raid
08-21-2006, 09:06
is this full yet if not I'll come in too.

here's one I was going to put in the gallery, I'll put it here first.

Taken with a Canonet GIII QL17 ; Fuji 200 ISO generic rebranded film; lab processed and scanned to a CD. Uncropped and 'resized for the web' in PS Elements no sharpening or adjustment of curves.
Titled "Yin - yan: Vespa and bicycle"

Jan: This rendevous of two bikes is nice. I would maybe have taken the photo from the right towards the walkway. Using a large aperture would single out the two bikes.

Raid

ampguy
08-21-2006, 09:28
Interesting photo. Nice use of shadows, framing and use of b&w. If it were possible, I would have moved the R chair in a little, and cropped off the R a tad to have a cleaner R edge, and lose the ceiling line. Also might have tried exposing 1 EV lighter to see what bringing out more detail would show.

but will not be able to post responses until tomorrow.

This is "Crepes" (forgive missing accent).

Bronica RF645, 65mm, HP5 or Fomapan 200 (Arista.edu Ultra 200).

ampguy
08-21-2006, 09:32
I like the motion in the window, and the texture of the green velvety Japanese train seats. I think you could have 2 photos here, one by cropping out the left lady, and one by cropping out the right lady.

A common thing I have about your Japan photos is that being able to read portions of the ads is distracting to me. While it's possibly abstract to others, it makes it a "happy snap" to those who can read these portions.

Here is my contributed image for crtique by you.

Camera: Minox GT or Olympus XA (in each pocket I had one)
Film: Ilford XP2 Super


Raid

ampguy
08-21-2006, 09:36
very nice with interesting angle. The flag seems to be missing blue, but maybe it's worn. There is something distracting off the R side of the cross. Very nice. Just curious, where was this taken?


I'm in.

Iskra, Reala.

William

ampguy
08-21-2006, 09:38
I like the flowers on the bicycle. The feet in the upper left are a little distracting, I wonder how this vertical would have worked with a wider shot including the whole of the scooter??

is this full yet if not I'll come in too.

here's one I was going to put in the gallery, I'll put it here first.

Taken with a Canonet GIII QL17 ; Fuji 200 ISO generic rebranded film; lab processed and scanned to a CD. Uncropped and 'resized for the web' in PS Elements no sharpening or adjustment of curves.
Titled "Yin - yan: Vespa and bicycle"

sf
08-21-2006, 13:53
Here is my contributed image for crtique by you.

Camera: Minox GT or Olympus XA (in each pocket I had one)
Film: Ilford XP2 Super


Raid

this is a good shot, I would only crop out the far left of the image where that shape against the side of the frame breaks the continuity. I like the blur of the other cars in the background - the green is particularly effective in this shot. green-black-blur is a good combo here.

sf
08-21-2006, 13:59
Ampguy :

This is a very simple shot. Of course, for this type of shot, we usually see a non-blurred subject moving against a blurred background, but the slight blurring on the subject actually works quite well. Magnifies the motion effect, actually. I might crop in closer - or not. Closer would possibly diminish the movement in the image.

jan normandale
08-21-2006, 21:20
Shutterflower; this is a nice easy relaxed shot. The woman appears to be taking a break. The image conveyed is of a hard working woman. The shot being what it is I can't add too much to the composition commentary. I will see that the exposure was difficult because so much of the right side of her face and hand are underexposed. Maybe a slight lightening or a wider f stop blah blah etc.

All considered a competent shot where you have to ‘grab’ what you can get and try to make the best of the light situation.

Raid; the subway shot with the two women is a tough topic again. The light could be better. But it is what you had available. The composition is great because it has so many points of interest. The second woman, the motion in the subway traveling in the opposite direction and the subject , intently focused on something in the train. Colour is dynamic so it boosts the interest level for me.

An interesting shot where everything comes together well.

Ampguy; this shot is on the right track lots of colour and everyone enjoys the thrill of a kid on their bike. I’m almost beside them now. My only comment would be you should make a choice. Either the motion is interpreted by the child moving through the frame and is blurred or the camera is panned to keep the child static and the background and foreground become blurred to deliver the sensation of motion. So pick a faster speed when you pan or slower when you let the rider pass thru your field of your lens.

William; wow I think you have pushed all the current hot buttons with this shot. It is a grabber. First the whole Christianity message with the image of Jesus nailed to the cross , re inforced with the American flag. For non Americans this may not be as charged but for Americans it is. Everyone is taught to salute the flag in the USA and so we have two powerful images of a Christian America. I’m not certain if there is a third allusion because, the flag appears to be lowered… like it has been lowered for the death of Christ. All in all a very powerful image and one certain to elicit strong emotional response. “God Bless America” and “One Nation Under God” very strong stuff.

sf
08-22-2006, 08:51
I'm in.

Iskra, Reala.

William


William :

very well seen. That shot could be interpreted in so many ways. Only thing about it that I don't like is the burry leaves in the bottom right corner and off the right side of the crucifix. Might airbrush those out, but other than that, it is a well composed shot. I might only have pushed the focus to one or the other subject - just enough to create a definite first focus in the composition, but that equality is also kind of effective. I like it.

To me, this shot says something very clear.

sf
08-22-2006, 08:56
is this full yet if not I'll come in too.

here's one I was going to put in the gallery, I'll put it here first.

Taken with a Canonet GIII QL17 ; Fuji 200 ISO generic rebranded film; lab processed and scanned to a CD. Uncropped and 'resized for the web' in PS Elements no sharpening or adjustment of curves.
Titled "Yin - yan: Vespa and bicycle"


It would have been good to get the handlebar entirely in the shot for the red Vespa, but that would have required losing the form of the yin-yan. Might have been also a good shot from a ladder looking down. I definitely wish to see more of the bicycle in the shot (we can't see anything but a very condensed frontal view that leaves all its old-fashioned nature to guessing).

The red/black/green contrast is good., and the DOF is well chosen.

sf
08-22-2006, 08:57
George: I like the picture on the wall. It complements the photo of the lady sitting on the chair and reading a magazine. The photo looks rather dark on my monitor. The light switches behind her head don't look good.

Raid


light switches. . .I know it. I was unable to get them out of the shot because of the limited angle I had on her.

I need to brighten all my pics - I was a very bright and crisp LCD monitor, and it seems that most all of my work looks dim to everyone around.

jan normandale
08-22-2006, 20:14
Here are my thoughts on my own shot.

This shot was taken as I walked to my work around 8.30am. The black bicycle with helmet was locked to one of the bike racks and was a ‘fresh face at the parking stand’ . The red vespa is a regular. I looked and saw a red motorized vespa and a black pedal bike with a ‘bell’ the black bike was adorned with the white daisies and I knew this was a decent shot. I took three shots. One full frame with every component visible, another partial crop and this one. The choice of this shot was based on my decision that the flowers were what this shot was about.

A visual oasis composed of flowers in the CDB of Toronto financial capital of Canada and immediately across the street from the Toronto Stock Exchange Tower. It was a resonating image and it represented everything different in the world from money and the pursuit of money. I could have waited for the two women in the top left frame corner to pass however I believed they added a human touch in all the steel and concrete.

I haven’t seen the bike again, but the vespa.. its there every day.

ampguy
08-22-2006, 21:21
Thanks for the comments on the kid on the bike photo. Jan's technical info. makes sense, and I also appreciate the other ideas including having the subject in the first 1/3rd of the frame. Thanks all.

jan normandale
08-23-2006, 16:25
like Ampguy said.. thanks all. It was a good one ;- )

raid
08-23-2006, 16:33
I was new at taking candid shots inside a subway car. Sometimes, there would be hundreds of people squeezed together, so photography was out of the question. In this photo, I waited for another train to pass while we still standing.

Thanks for this enjoyful discussion session.

Raid