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Ash
07-24-2006, 11:02
Right, I used the kiev today, since it never gets much use.

Lovely camera, bright rangefinder, excellent photo taker.... HOWEVER

Foreign Object Damage! Every frame has it!

It's worrying since the test roll a while back didn't show anything of the sort. I dont really want to waste a whole roll to find out if the problem is still there (and at the same time, I dont want any more images ruined).


It's consistent - in practically every frame.

Ok here are the worst photo's of the set (strangely the worst photo's show this FOD the worst!)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-4.jpg
above the tree in the background

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-10.jpg
parallel to the shoulders on the left

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/Untitled-14.jpg
top of the frame, thirdway along


Ever seen something like this? think its on the shutter or focal plane? I've taken a look an brushed my finger along it on the slowest shutter setting, but I can't really see it :(

ampguy
07-24-2006, 11:07
I wouldn't worry about it, it's pretty much in the overscan area.

BrianShaw
07-24-2006, 11:15
Very odd. It looks like some kind of opaque fragment. It appears to be in the same location on each frame... true or illusion? I don't know anything about Kiev cameras, but look for some matter that might be flipping into the frame when the shutter is released. It might not be visible when the shutter/mirror is not in movement.

On a totally different topic, at least the girl in your first image wore a black bra to go with the black dress. Or as her mother would say... at least she was wearing a bra. :rolleyes:

BJ Bignell
07-24-2006, 11:15
Is there physical damage on the negatives, or just a clear spot?

It looks like something is sticking out in front of the film, causing the dark spot in the positive image. Check all around the edges of the shutter inside and out - especially look at the bottom of the shutter, since the blob is appearing at the top of the pictures. Look inside the lens mount for anything out of the ordinary. Also, check for anything stuck to the lens elements (front and back), on the frame rails, pressure plate, etc.

Perhaps it was temporary, and has gone away now that you've opened the camera and taken the film out?

Dougg
07-24-2006, 11:22
I expect it is a chip of film, such as might be torn loose when attempting to wind past the end of the roll. Not uncommon... might even have been stuck harmlessly in another spot for a long time.

Ash
07-24-2006, 11:22
Thanks for the replies. I'm hoping it fell out. We'll see in a few days/weeks when I give the cam another roll of film.

I can't see any foreign objects in the camera, and checked the lens

clarence
07-24-2006, 11:45
Ash, you bulk roll your film, don't you? If you'd like a quick confirmation, you could just roll a 5 frame canister and shoot it to confirm.

You could use some of that antediluvian slide film you bought.

Clarence

Ash
07-24-2006, 12:08
Yep but I've rolled up all my canisters, and I'd have to open up a brand new 200ft roll for 20" of film - laziness maybe, but I'm not up to opening it just yet!

As for the slide film, I dont think I'd be able to get a photo good enough to show the fod, since the development creates a very thick neg (due to that layer of dye, and poor processing when using b&w chemicals). It's also just got dark outside!!

>.<

I'll wait til tomorrow I think!

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Socke
07-24-2006, 12:56
IMHO it is somewhere in the camera, the spot seems to be at the same place in all the frames and it looks pretty much the same.

OldNick
07-24-2006, 13:04
I agree that it appears to be a film fragment that stays in one place. It is pretty much at the focal plane, because its shadow on the film is not diffused. Set the shutter on bulb, remove the lens, and examine the boundary near the film plane with a magnifier. Its got to be there somewhere.

Jim N.

Dougg
07-24-2006, 22:46
Located along the lower edge of the film plane/shutter track and left of center...

Xmas
07-25-2006, 05:15
Ash

Something stuck in the lower (first) blind (trap for the 2nd blind) or in front of lower blind?

Noel