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andrealed
06-08-2006, 12:42
http://www.artzites.com/camera1.htm
That nice gentleman is indeed an inspiration to us all. Come and join in Comrade Andrealed, our FSU corner is a haven of sanity in a forum which sometimes has a touch of the Guernicas :D
Cheers, Ian!
Peace conference sponsored by the French Communist Party. Art work by Picasso.
Fedzilla_Bob
06-08-2006, 19:21
Looks like Comrade Pablo got along fine with an I26.
Yeah, great shot andrealed. Thanks for the link.
I love that picture but I am also curious - is it bona fide? There's something about the shadows that disturbs me.
Donald, I think I've seen that picture reproduced elsewhere and I'm pretty sure it's genuine: Picasso did have a FED 2. But thankyou for making me look again, because you're absolutely right: there is something "wrong" with it, which I'd never noticed before! Unless I'm very much mistaken, I think his shadow on the wall is actually reversed!
It reminds me of photographs they used to retouch for the press or for reproduction on low quality paper, which often contain all sorts of mistakes. It would be interesting to know the source of this picture.
Ian
Good thinking Batman - it could just be the retouching. His arm is akimbo on the wrong side in the shadow. The photographers shadow seems to fall at a different angle to the others as well.
There's a famous example of a picture of Leonid Brezhnev greeting some foreign dignitary at the airport. When Pravda or whoever were preparing it for publication they realised that said dignitary had kept his hat on while Brezhnev had doffed his. Well, it wouldn't do for the leader of the Soviet Peoples (or SOVPEEP as we called them in North London) to be seen to kow-tow to a foreigner.
So out came the airbrush and Brezhev got a hat on his head. But the artist forgot to remove the one Brezhnev had been holding in his hand. So the leader of the glorious revolutionary Soviet Union was seen to be wearing one hat and carrying another. This may have caused some observers to question his grip on reality ...
Of course this may just be an urban myth. So here's a picture of Brezhnev making a pass at Richard Nixon just to keep us amused.
"Dick, haf you heard wunabout Zenit EM and armadillo?..."
Fedzilla_Bob
06-09-2006, 14:06
That, my comrades, is the shadow of another person, out of frame. Off stage left.
I think we need to call Scully and Mulder.
There are 2 shadows of people - one behind Pablo, one falling in his torso/waist. The one behind him is making the mirror image of his pose.
Also, why is he wearning 2 watches?
Fedzilla_Bob
06-09-2006, 14:28
Wait didn't you hear? He lived in two time zones. :)
I heard Scully was asking for my phone number.
"Dick, haf you heard wunabout Zenit EM and armadillo?..."
“When Nixon visited Moscow, he and Khrushchev ran around the Kremlin in a race. Nixon came first. Pravda wrote:
In the international running competition the General Secretary of the Communist Party took the honorable second place.’ Mister Nixon came in one before last.”
I heard Scully was asking for my phone number.
If she calls - give her my number... please.
Just to add a little more alarm and dispondency, I thought perhaps Comrades might enjoy a true masterwork of the totalitarian retoucher's art - from a North Korean book entitled Outstanding Leadership and Brilliant Victory, which - surprisingly - is about Kim Il Sung (as are all books in NK :D )
This is captioned as a photograph of Kimmy leading a counterattack along the River Chongchon....
Just to add one point - it was a convention of socialist realism to emphasise the industrial development of the countryside. Often artists would add pylons to a landscape... whoever did this has - just the one, drawn with a nail!
Cheers, Ian
Fedzilla_Bob
06-09-2006, 14:47
If she calls - give her my number... please.
Brother- Should she call, I'll likely use my one "get out of jail free" card my wife dispensed to me just in case I met Catherine Zeta Jones.
As for FEDs and Pablo, are any of his photos published?
As for FEDs and Pablo, are any of his photos published?
Indeed Bob: there are quite a few books andat least one well-regarded illustrated study, "The Dark Mirror", which is currently in print and which you can read about here:
http://www.worldcatlibraries.org/wcpa/oclc/37370348?page=frame&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.loc.gov%2Fcatdir%2Fdescriptio n%2Fhol055%2F97034000.html&title=&linktype=digitalObject&detail=
Cheers, Ian
darkkavenger
06-09-2006, 15:10
Jocko, the pylon is so funny, it looks like if they wanted to incorporate the North-Korean Coat of Arms into the picture... of course there was no room for the hydro-electric power plant so they just put a pylon there, near the T-34/85 tank ;)
captainslack
06-09-2006, 17:13
Re: the shadow in the photograph.
Guys/Gals, this is Picasso we're talking about!!! Of course, his shadow is going the wrong way! I'm surprised it's not square, for Christsake! :D
So what were Pablo's favorite lenses? or did he just use one?
So what were Pablo's favorite lenses? or did he just use one?I dunno, but winding on the ol' FED sure made is hands strong!
http://s26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/CVBLZ4/GoK/th_picassohands.jpg (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/CVBLZ4/GoK/picassohands.jpg)
That's the second time I've fallen off my chair in 12 hours! :D :D :D
Looks like a case of the old Kharkov Finger!
Thank You Reagan!
Cheers, Ian!
Edit - in a similar spirit, may I offer Breughel's painting "The Country Wedding". One look and you know he'd have used a RF if they'd have had them in the 1500s... Look at that eye for detail - the terrified groom, the smug bride... and the man in red carrying the tray with the plates. See how well Breughel has painted his legs!? All three of them!
Bet he'd have liked photoshop!
Edit - in a similar spirit...I like the Country Wedding. Good one. Looks like an RFF Meet! (I guess the three-legged guy would beeee.......... da Big Cheese ;) )
Edit - in a similar spirit, may I offer Breughel's painting "The Country Wedding". One look and you know he'd have used a RF if they'd have had them in the 1500s... Look at that eye for detail - the terrified groom, the smug bride... and the man in red carrying the tray with the plates. See how well Breughel has painted his legs!? All three of them!
Bet he'd have liked photoshop!
Ian - centuries later, Degas paid Brueghel back by painting two tables with no legs. The lady in the picture is the partner of an RFF member who has just had a severe GAS attack. She has gone to the pub to drown her sorrows.
Ian - centuries later, Degas paid Brueghel back by painting two tables with no legs. The lady in the picture is the partner of an RFF member who has just had a severe GAS attack. She has gone to the pub to drown her sorrows.
Donald and my beloved Comrades of the RFF, I should like to apologise unreservedly for what follows
Hence the phrase, "Getting Legless!", Boom Boom!
I have now sentenced myself to internal exile in the gulags of the Halina forum.
Please forgive me
Ian
Picasso with David Douglas Duncan.
Picasso with David Douglas Duncan.Okay, two quick questions. . .
(1) Can anyone identify the cameras?
(2) Can anyone identify Pablo's pants? http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif
Fedzilla_Bob
06-10-2006, 20:51
Why identify his pants. He is... Picasso!
Do I have to quote the Jonathan Richman tune?
Okay, two quick questions. . .
(1) Can anyone identify the cameras?
(2) Can anyone identify Pablo's pants? http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif
The pants were discussed in "The Private World of Pablo Picasso" by David Duncan. Picasso had them custom made and was rather fond of them. Pants only cubist could love.
Donald and my beloved Comrades of the RFF, I should like to apologise unreservedly for what follows
Hence the phrase, "Getting Legless!", Boom Boom!
I have now sentenced myself to internal exile in the gulags of the Halina forum.
Please forgive me
Ian
Comrade - you have left me speechless with awe. Your wit is greater than that of Comrade Stalin himself.
(Sorry Ian - I stayed up all night trying to think of a suitable punishment for that remark and feeble sarcasm was the best I could do).
Comrade - you have left me speechless with awe. Your wit is greater than that of Comrade Stalin himself.
(Sorry Ian - I stayed up all night trying to think of a suitable punishment for that remark and feeble sarcasm was the best I could do).
Don't worry Comrade! Feeble is my native tongue!
claidemore
06-11-2006, 11:29
Okay, two quick questions. . .
(1) Can anyone identify the cameras?
(2) Can anyone identify Pablo's pants? http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif
It would appear that Duncan is holding a screw mt Leica (note the slow speed dial in front) with an accessory viewfinder, possibly for a wide angle lens?
Harder to see the camera Picasso is holding, but it does appear to have a stepped topline, and in the second photo it looks like you can see the slow speed dial. That camera looks bigger than the Leica which Duncan is holding, and it has a strap, so the strap might be attached to the ever-ready case? The viewfinder is squinty though, cause Pablo is definately squinting in the second photo! My guess, Leica in it's case with an 85mm lens.
I'm sure you're right Claidemore, in which case the absense of an accessory finder on Picasso's camera perhaps suggests it could be a IIIg?
Cheers, Ian
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