W: Photos in W/NW threads

[Rich Silfver]

I noticed that most people tend to upload attachments to the w/nw threads.
In the past they showed as thumbnails, now as links. Not sure if that is a permanent change or just a temporary glitch but regardless - I must admit I MUCH rather seeing the full images in the threads themselves. Having to click on a link to see the photo takes away a bit of the ease of seeing a lot of nice photos (especially if joining late and there are already 20ish photos and then I must admit I hardly click on any of the thumbnails/links but only look at the URL linked large images).

Am I the only one feeling this way?

[formal]

No. I agree.

B.T.W. Nice chair picture. It is a model?

[Rich Silfver]

Minature/doll house. Exhibit in Chicago.

Thanks.

[lynn]

I feel the same way.
The thumbnails made the W/NW threads easy to explore. The Camera&Coffee thread will be a LOT different, too, if this is not a temporary thing....
Rich: yes, that chair took my breath away!

[ClaremontPhoto]

Maybe this (http://recedinghairline.co.uk/tutorials/fakemodel/) is interesting. About how to take a real life scene and make it look as if it's a model.

[Rich Silfver]

I feel the same way.
The thumbnails made the W/NW threads easy to explore. The Camera&Coffee thread will be a LOT different, too, if this is not a temporary thing....


I remember when the thumnails were introduced - before that attachment were also displayed large if memory serves me right. Hated it. Still do.

[Rich Silfver]

Jon, thanks for that link. I bookmared it. Gonna have to try that...

[taffer]

Full size images look nicer, agree, but then, tell that to dial-up users waiting for the page to load ;)

[iñaki]

I like full size images, but I don´t now how to post them large in a thread :bang:

It would be interesting to know the % of people using dial up conexion, a poll could be a good idea (no, I don´t know how to do it :bang:)

[jonasv]

I'm all for this - up till now I didn't because of possible dial-up users - there can't be too many of them left, right?

[ClaremontPhoto]

Jorge can tell from the site stats. He knows what percentage of us are on Windows or Macs. What our screen size is and what our connection speeds are.

[ray_g]

Most people also tend also tend to upload their pics in their galleries, then upload once more on the thread. It would be much easier and less burdensome for the site to just insert the image in the thread.

For those not familiar with doing this:
- right click on your image in the gallery (or on flickr, for instance)
- on advanced mode, click the 'insert image' button (to the right of the bullets button) and follow the directions.

[Gabriel M.A.]

I don't think the stats tell you what the users' connection speeds are; you can, however mine info such as browsers, OS, even geographical location.

I agree, Rich, I noticed the thumbnails thing right away; perhaps it was turned off for site efficiency? I hope not, but it could be the case.

[jano]

Good and bad for both

Good for attachments:
- if you don't have a place to host your images
- small thumbs good for dialup
- small thumbs also good for those of us with older computers :p
- good for quickly looking to find interest
Bad for attachments:
- bogs down the rff server
- takes up disk space

Good for inline:
- images not stores on RFF
- no need to open additional windows/tabs
Bad for inline:
- may affect dialup users
- not everyone has a place to host their images

*shrug* I tend to like the inline images or just links, because I have a few places for my photos, and feel guilty taking up space here.

Jano

[Andrew Sowerby]

I much prefer having the images in the thread (up to a certain size of course). Nothing beats scolling through a page of photographs. With the advent of Flickr, Photobucket, etc. anyone can get space to host their images. Perhaps images in the gallery could have a cut-and-pasteable [img] tag?

[FrankS]

When full size pictures are present in threads, the page jumps around like crazy for quite a while as the large images load. I find this aggravating. My vote goes to thumbnails in threads. Perhaps the thumbnails could be just a bit larger. When you see an interesting thumbnail, you can click on it to view.

[DougK]

I'm with Frank, I prefer thumbnails in threads.

[pesphoto]

When full size pictures are present in threads, the page jumps around like crazy for quite a while as the large images load. I find this aggravating. My vote goes to thumbnails in threads. Perhaps the thumbnails could be just a bit larger. When you see an interesting thumbnail, you can click on it to view.

here, here! I dont have a dial up and it still takes a while .

[Rich Silfver]

I couldn't disagree more Frank..well I guess I "could" but you know what I mean...

It seems as if I'm pretty alone in this though - so take it for what it's worth.....potentially nothing.

This is a site focused on photography and gears - there will obviously be photos posted. By having photos displayed as thumbnails (yuck..I click on them 1 out of 10 times) or links (I never click on them - sorry but I don't) one is really ruining the experience in viewing a thread like a W/NW thread.

Anyone STILL using dial-up can set number of threads/page to a minimum. I don't think it's fair in 2006 to limit the photo viewing experience from the masses due to the fact that we still have some dial-up users or users that can't link to some FREE site like FLICKR, etc.

It would also give the RFF server a break by using links instead of keep uploading photos here.

Obviously just my two cents but I like photography and I like seeing photos from members here - but with links and thumbnails being used at least I won't see them (or the experience is not going to be what it could be).

That the screen 'jumps up and down as the photos load'. Well...a) get a faster connection or b) use fewer threads/page. I can't see it being even remotely as 'bad' as links or thumbnails.

OR...how about in W/NW threads that have a focus on photos - in THOSE threads photos will be displayed full size but in all other threads thumbnails could be used.
(Gotta love making assumptions like that without having a clue what either the site owner wants...or what the software can handle) :)

[FrankS]

Dial up is the only option for some folks. I don't think we should abandon them because clicking on a thumbnail is too troublesome for others.

[FrankS]

Perhaps, perhaps, this could be made an option for individual users to configure? That could satisfy everyones' needs or desires (on this issue.) :)

[Rich Silfver]

I think I will just HAVE to setup a poll for this one ...... :D

[FrankS]

And you're just the guy to do it. :)

A word of caution: everyone must keep in mind that for the dial up users, viewing full size images in threads will be a much more significant problem than it is for those who dislike having to click on thumbnails to view the images.

I don't think it would be fair to decide this by a simple majority (50% +1) since the outcome will have a much greater effect on some people than others.

Did I explain that clearly?

[Rich Silfver]

You know it Frank. :)

Poll posted here (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=268340#post268340)

[jano]

It would also give the RFF server a break by using links instead of keep uploading photos here.

That's what I was trying to say :)

[Socke]

This is how thumbnails look on my 3.5 year old laptop, which is the most modern computer I have at home. The other is a five year old Celeron hooked up to a TV!

[jmilkins]

I like the idea (in a W/NW thread especially) of viewing larger images rather than thumbnails.

I spent an hour or so last night trying to work out how to have an image appear in Manny's RFF April Salon thread - it is one image that means a lot to me personally and I wanted it bigger than a thumbnail .

For some reason though, [IMG] code was off for me on that thread (still is) , but it's on for me here? :confused:

Do we have to have the IMG codeindividually turned on for us by the mods or Jorge? Or is it on for some threads and not others?

Or am I just too cyber-illiterate ;)

[RayPA]

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I spent an hour or so last night trying to work out how to have an image appear in Manny's RFF April Salon thread - it is one image that means a lot to me personally and I wanted it bigger than a thumbnail .
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Same here! I've spent too much time trying to get this to work in the past. I think this is the biggest stumbling block to getting support behind the idea of linline images. People don't know how to do it. :bang: The process doesn't seem to work for me, either. :confused:



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[jmilkins]

heh thanks Manny - another RFF mystery solved :D - I can sleep at night again ;)

[back alley]

so I expect joe may have disabled the feature...

not me.

might be part of the changes lately.

joe