View Full Version : Interest in Create a Photo Book Swap?
I know there's a regularly occurring print swap for wet/analog prints, and a while ago RayG suggested a "digital negative" swap (wherein hi-rez files would be swapped between participants).
At that time, I was thinking out loud and suggested a PDF swap, and it's been nagging at me ever since. I don't know if there's an interest, but here's the idea:
Participants create a PDF "photo book" of 5-7 images (related or not) and lay it out to include a title, photographer's name, image titles, introductory text (if they choose), poetry (if they choose), navigation (if they choose), music (if they choose), or whatever they choose (and in Acrobat there's a lot or whatever to choose). Or, it could be a simple series of images.
The images are set at 72 dpi, and used strictly for viewing. Similar to the Lenswork Extended CD Magazine, except these images, being set at 72 dpi, are really only practical/useful for viewing on a computer screen (giving some relief to the copyright concerns—this would be no different from posting an image here in the gallery, or anywhere online).
The end result (the PDF photo book) is either e-mailed, or burned to a CD and sent out (this latter option opens up a whole other set of design and presentationn possibilities [future gift ideas?])
The idea is to create a PDF book that presents your images as you'd like to see them presented and then share those images with other photogrpahers here at RFF. I know a lot of us entertain the idea of creating our own Lulu book of images; this would give some practical experience toward that end.
There would be no themes, the choice of images, the presentation, etc. would be up to the individual photographers.
Does this sound like something you'd like to participate in?
Todd.Hanz
03-14-2006, 15:58
sounds like a great idea!
Todd
back alley
03-14-2006, 16:57
who can teach me how to pdf?
Man, I just pdf'ed earlier tonight It was awesome.
allan
I'm interested. Like Joe, I'd need to learn how to create pdf files, though.
JoeFriday
03-14-2006, 19:16
sounds good.. but I have no idea how to do that stuff ;)
Man, I just pdf'ed earlier tonight It was awesome.
allan
I usually step outside when I pdf. The wife appreciates it.
:)
sounds good.. but I have no idea how to do that stuff ;)
Just can't get enough of it!
Joe and Ray, it depends on what program you're using. Photoshop has a 'Save As...' 'Photoshop PDF' option that you can then import into Acrobat, and then order the images. There are many ways to skin this cat. If we have a common layout program, like InDeign, maybe there's a template, with text and image placeholders we could use, or create and use.
:)
Hmm... is there a good simple tutorial on this on the web that you can recommend?
Like some others - it sounds great but my only current experience with .pdf files is work-related and consists of text that the sender wants to protect from any changes (I work in finance and law - so proprietary protection is paramount - and gosh, that was alliterative!).
Perhaps we could use a "tutorial" explanation?
Meanwhile, I'll check my PS about saving to .pdf as a first step.
This is a cool idea, technical difficulties notwithstanding! Perhaps we should do a "runners up" Lulu book :)
The easiest option might be to use the "Create PDF Online" feature at adobe.com. You can lay the whole thing out in MS Word, then send it online and have them output the file. You get the first 5 documents for free, so it won't cost anyone any money.
You won't be able to do as much of the music and whatnot that you can if you have Adobe Acrobat Pro, but it's a doable option.
I think this could be fun.
allan
The easiest option might be to use the "Create PDF Online" feature at adobe.com. You can lay the whole thing out in MS Word, then send it online and have them output the file. You get the first 5 documents for free, so it won't cost anyone any money.
You won't be able to do as much of the music and whatnot that you can if you have Adobe Acrobat Pro, but it's a doable option.
I think this could be fun.
allan
This does sound doable, almost unviersally so. I've never tried it. Allan, when you state "output the file," do they send back a PDF?
:)
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As far as I can tell yes, it sends back a PDF. If there is enough interest, I'll go ahead and create a trial account and try it out myself.
allan
cp_ste.croix
03-14-2006, 21:41
cool idea...i'd love a copy of others work even if i can't figure it out myself...sort of reminds me of poetry chapbooks. Great Idea.
As far as I can tell yes, it sends back a PDF. If there is enough interest, I'll go ahead and create a trial account and try it out myself.
allan
Yeah, if you don't mind. I'll try and do the same. I'd like to try the Word option, too.
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It failed the first time, but worked the second. The attached is not meant to be an example of what my stuff will actually look like :-)
It failed the first time, but worked the second. The attached is not meant to be an example of what my stuff will actually look like :-)
Cool it worked! Love the WordArt! ;) The Adobe site has some good information on PDF's, if anyone is interested.
:)
Oh, the Wordart is the one thing in that sample that _is_ an example of what my final product will look like. All wordart. All the time.
This is a neat idea, Ray. Let me know if I can help move it forward. I'd offer to do an inDesign template but I don't think many folks will have that...
allan
I think so long as anyone who wants to participate can participate—and the PDF Online + Word option enables that—then we can play. I'm not sure about the format, whether this would operate like a print swap, or whether everyone who participates gets a book. Any thoughts?
:)
Ray,
How were you thinking of assembling the documents into a book? Literally a book that we have printed? Or just a virtual book?
allan
jan normandale
03-14-2006, 23:25
tell me / show me how to put a "book together" and I'm in. Cheers, Jan
Jan,
The idea is that you can present a certain number of photos - 5-7 - in whatever format and layout you want. You can do this just in MS Word if you wanted. Then send it over to Adobe to turn into a PDF and then...we'll do something with those PDFs. Word has sufficient layout features that it's not that hard. Just drag some images around, put in some text boxes, and you're there.
allan
Ray,
How were you thinking of assembling the documents into a book? Literally a book that we have printed? Or just a virtual book?
allan
I was thinking each participant/photographer would create their own complete virtual book of images to pass around.
:)
I'd love to participate in this. Sounds like a good exercise and good fun.
BTW, the easiest way I know to create really nice PDF is to use OpenOffice Writer, the 'Word' component of OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org/
It's free and there are versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux. The PDF output is really excellent. I used this product to create PDFs in a technical writing course I took and was very impressed.
If you know Word, you're ready to use OO Writer. When finished with your bookette, 'Export as PDF' and Bob's your Uncle.
Gene
Well, I took Gene's advice and downloaded Open Office. Created the attached PDF in about 10 minutes (using the export to PDF option) - great image layout options. Ignore the blurb, just an example. BTW you don't have to resize your images, but it helps if they're not too big to start with.
Regards
Gid
Gid, that looks GOOD!
Gene
Gene,
Thanks. This is just scratching the surface. There are lots of layout options. I am just amazed that this stuff is free.
Gid
JoeFriday
03-15-2006, 07:27
since you guys got me going, I just spent a little quality time (ok, about 10 minutes) and threw this together based on a few low-rez photos I had on my work computer.. it was done in QuarkXPress.. not exactly what I'd tell people to buy just for making PDFs, but it makes the job very easy (once you know how the program works)
Brett, that's very funny! Yes, I'm sure Quark does a magnificent job, but I'll stick with free :D
Gene
JoeFriday
03-15-2006, 07:39
oh come on, Gene.. whats $700 to this crowd? ;)
Brett,
Cool, but I'm with Gene on the free stuff. Don't mean to offend, but that bride looked a bit stoney faced :D
Gid
Wow! I was going to break out InDesign, FrameMaker, or Acrobat Pro, but these online create-a-pdf options are so easy it's very tempting, to go this route. The files aren't that big either! Maybe we could do this entirely through a thread (?). Any feelings on that? Would you prefer to set this up as a swap, or 'open' through a thread? My initial thought was as a swap, but an open submission to a thread could be cool, too.
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Goodyear
03-15-2006, 08:12
Sounds fun.
There are a number of PDF "printer drivers" (for Windows, I know nothing of the Mac) out there that will let you output a PDF from whatever software you normally use.
I use a decent free one, but Id need to go hunting for the name of it.
JoeFriday
03-15-2006, 08:13
not a bad idea.. but ideally, you should set up a thread for posting the PDFs only.. no comments allowed there so the PDFs don't get buried, as always happens
jan normandale
03-15-2006, 08:21
Jan,
The idea is that you can present a certain number of photos - 5-7 - in whatever format and layout you want. You can do this just in MS Word if you wanted. Then send it over to Adobe to turn into a PDF and then...we'll do something with those PDFs. Word has sufficient layout features that it's not that hard. Just drag some images around, put in some text boxes, and you're there.
allan
Kaiyen.... doh! Of course. I was looking for something to create in PDF from the get go and I don't have Adobe for creating only reading.... but I own a Mac and I can save docs as PDF's so I'm good. I can use Word for Mac and then save as a PDF... Yay!
Definitely in!
not a bad idea.. but ideally, you should set up a thread for posting the PDFs only.. no comments allowed there so the PDFs don't get buried, as always happens
Good idea.
So, whats the format, content etc to be? Just a collection of our images and words? RF only? Page limits - could create a book each! I guess there must be an upload limit and even if there isn't we don't want to kill the site!
Comments, suggestions?
Gid
Good idea.
So, whats the format, content etc to be? Just a collection of our images and words? RF only? Page limits - could create a book each! I guess there must be an upload limit and even if there isn't we don't want to kill the site!
Comments, suggestions?
Gid
The initial concept was that each of us was to create a photo book each, so the emphasis should be on highlighting and presenting your images as you'd like to see them. No restrictions on content, no predefinded theme (as the photogrpher you can do whatever you want, thematically), 5-7 images, be as creative, or fancy, or as simple as you'd like.
Can we all agree that the only restriction should be RF camera images?
Maybe we'll all upload to a thread as Brett suggested, so that people can get ideas from what others are doing (?).
:)
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Goodyear
03-15-2006, 09:11
FWIW, I'd quite like the swap idea as opposed to just posting to the site. Or an offshoot site to archive them? (That sounds afun, actually...)
Iyidin_Kyeimo
03-15-2006, 09:13
There's a print driver program called cutePDF (http://www.cutepdf.com/) that I use.
install it, make your document in word, print it out as normal, but select cutePDF from the drop down menu instead of your normal printer.
Very easy to use...
I'm more than willing to host the pdf's on my site. That's no problem. Threads on RFF can get messy (the March Madness one is, to be honest, a bit too crazy for me to even check).
allan
I'm more than willing to host the pdf's on my site. That's no problem. Threads on RFF can get messy (the March Madness one is, to be honest, a bit too crazy for me to even check).
allan
I agree. Threads can get messy and convoluted. A hosting spot would be nice.
A head count of those that have replied:
Me
Allan
Joe
Todd
Ray_G
Brett
George
Gid
Chris
Jan
Gene
Mark
Iyidin_Kyeimo
Did I miss anyone?
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Byuphoto
03-15-2006, 11:50
I'm in. I use Acrobat pro to do read only proofs for my wedding/studio photos anyway so this will be simple
I'm also in, I will use the Open Office progam to make the page.
Leo
Lkgroup
Here's an idea - do we want to post these on a blog? Or a wiki? That way, I could create member accounts for everyone and we can upload on our own. No need to funnel things through me.
allan
jan normandale
03-15-2006, 15:45
Here's an idea - do we want to post these on a blog? Or a wiki? That way, I could create member accounts for everyone and we can upload on our own. No need to funnel things through me.
allan
Allan, sounds logical to me. Set it up.
A Blog or something like it would be great. I would love to see others pictures in this format and also the template ideas people come up with. Set it up.
Leo
back alley
03-15-2006, 15:50
would a blog make it public?
Joe,
Not if I lock the blog :-)
I can do that if one wants. I don't see why we'd want to, but I could. I'll throw up a wordpress instance real fast. We could always just use blogger, too.
allan
I set up wordpress really fast -
http://photos.kaiyen.com/rffBlog/
I haven't even changed the default links on the right. I can change the look. You can click on my photo blog link in my sig to see the theme I've used for my own blog.
Like i said, I can also use Blogger if people prefer that. Either way, to put up this stuff you'd need to login to post. I have turned on self-registration so you can sign up.
allan
Add me, please. Off to Palm Desert and Joshua Tree National Park next week and might be out of touch for about 9-10 days, but I'd like to participate.
Richard
I set up wordpress really fast -
http://photos.kaiyen.com/rffBlog/
I haven't even changed the default links on the right. I can change the look. You can click on my photo blog link in my sig to see the theme I've used for my own blog.
Like i said, I can also use Blogger if people prefer that. Either way, to put up this stuff you'd need to login to post. I have turned on self-registration so you can sign up.
allan
Yay, Allan! Thanks for setting this up. I've been running around today, so I'm in and out, checking RFF as I pass my laptop. I'll check it out tongiht.
Is everyone feeling like they can handle the various PDF conversions?
:)
Add me, please. Off to Palm Desert and Joshua Tree National Park next week and might be out of touch for about 9-10 days, but I'd like to participate.
Richard
Have fun, Rich. Sounds like a blast! Maybe you'll have a Joshua Tree mini-book for us when you get back.
:)
I'll be making some mods to the blog later tonight. Maybe pick a new theme (perhaps I'll ask this awesome photographer I know to donate an image for the theme...), add a calendar, some links, etc. Pass along requests for changes.
even if we don't end up using the blog the one mouse click it took to set it up was worth it :-)
allan
Thanks. Taking the Rolleiflex 2.8E Planar TLR for B&W and Contax G2 w/21, 28 and 45 lenses for color. Hope the weather is interesting.... :p
for colorHave fun, Rich. Sounds like a blast! Maybe you'll have a Joshua Tree mini-book for us when you get back.
:)
Thanks for setting this up, Allan. I just registered. I have no objections to making it a public blog, but will go with the consensus.
Gene
I just registered too. I don't mind a public site, but like Gene, I'll go along with the concensus.
:)
Stephanie Brim
03-15-2006, 23:53
I would be interested...but tentatively for now. I want to shoot something worth putting in it first.
Allan,
Great job. I've registered.
Gid
This sounds like a good idea so please include me. I did register on the site Allan put up but if the location changes to Blogger, that's cool too since I'm already registered there. PDF's are no problem.
All,
Just to verify, I have tested and confirmed my ability to password protect access to the entire directory in which the blog resides. Since I can also publish from blogger to my site, I can do the same thing that way.
I personally prefer wordpress since it's a bit more powerful in terms of customization. However, since I myself have not completely figured out all of the features of WP, I don't mind going to blogger. It's really whether anyone has a strong opinion on it.
By the way - I know many of us have photo blog already but...would anyone find a community blog of interest? I have some ideas on this, but if you guys in this thread shoot it down quickly I won't bother posting separately.
allan
back alley
03-16-2006, 08:22
so, just to catch up, we are registering on the blog site that has been set up and can start posting our 'books'?
joe
Joe,
I am pretty sure I've set it up for posting and uploading of files. I will try it out when I get to work, though.
It does not look like you have signed up yet, though. When you sign up you are a "level 0" user. I have to elevate you to at least level 2 so you can post. I get an e-mail whenever someone registers so I have been promoting people pretty quickly.
Other than that, once you are registered you can go ahead and post. As I said, this doesn't even have to be just for the book. We can also post other things here if anyone wants.
me like blogging.
allan
Goodyear
03-16-2006, 08:37
WP over blogger every time!
And the idea of an RFF community blog... in a word... rocks!
Let's stick with WordPress for now. A lot of us use blogger, so if WP doesn't end up working, we can switch, probably fairly easily. I like the way WP looks. Is that a default template, Alllan, or did you set it up?
I'll go ahead and compile a list, and then send everyone a PM, asking them to register.
I can't wait to see some of these!
:)
How does one go about registering, am I missing the obvious?
Leo
How does one go about registering, am I missing the obvious?
Leo
Leo,
IIRC the Login is under Meta. Click on Meta, then on Login, and then on Register.
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I added a blog post saying how to create an account. Sorry.
Also, I just verified that one can upload a pdf (using the "upload" feature in the admin panel). That then gives you some html that you can directly copy/paste into your blog post.
I set it so that the biggest upload is 500MB. Is that big enough? I have never created pdf's with at LOT of graphics in them.
So...we're pretty good to go.
Ray - it's a pre-created template I downloaded. What do you guys think of it? Too dark? I can switch it if you like. At some point, I'll replace the picture on the top, too.
allan
So I've changed the theme yet again. Do you prefer the current, red one, or the previous black one? I have decided I like having the nav stuff on the side, rather than as links off the main page. Hm.
I can work on changing the colors if the red one is too...punchy.
allan
Goodyear
03-16-2006, 10:31
I like it, but it is very strong.
I'd be inclined to say the same idea in blue (image and all!) - but every other website in the world is mainly blue :p
I see no nav bar or meta link at that page....
I like the navigation on the side too. It falls into the "blog" framework and seems natural. The red is definitely a different feel, very blogg-ish, but I like it. The black is serious and arty; I liked it too, but it was dark. The templates with WP are nice, especially compared to blogger.
:angel:
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Sorry Rich - the directions were for the black theme. I've modified them for the red theme.
Just scroll down to the bottom right, to the meta section.
I'll work on changing the color later today. A lot of blogs are blue...I tend to go more dramatic, but perhaps it's too much and distracting.
allan
Oh boy, I LOVE the red! Maybe you could post the general PDF book guidelines there? I seem to have already forgotten the # of pages, etc. I'd think I have ADD but I suppose it could be that I'm trying to work, keep tabs on the NCAA tournament games and read RFF all at the same time!
All,
The first post on the blog is a wholesale copy/paste of Ray's original post. Ray - I set you as the author, so you can edit it all you want.
I set it as "sticky" so it'll be the first post all the time.
allan
I sent PM's out this morning to remind everyone listed up to that point that they'll need to register. I've heard back from a few. Some are almost ready to post! I gotta get cracking! :)
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Holy cow. I won't be posting anything until next week.
You guys are way too productive.
allan
Already ready to upload? Sheesh! I hope to start putting something together this weekend but I don't expect to have something ready for a couple of weeks.
Hm. Maybe I'll just block posting until I'm done, that way I'll look like I'm the first one...
:-)
Oh yeah - when you post, be sure to select "PDF Book Swap" as your post category. That way, people can click on that and see all of the posts relevant to that.
allan
Goodyear
03-16-2006, 13:44
Are we allowed to post other categories yet?
Not that I have anything to post, but hypothetically...
/dead keen for the group-blog thing.
In my opinion - go for it. I don't see why it would be a problem - that's what the "Book Swap" category is for, so that we can look at just those items if we want.
My only word of caution is that if this doesn't take off as a community blog, you might be puting a lot of effort into something that will languish after a while.
I certainly like the idea. I will go through other photo blogs down the line and add them to the feed, as well. And I'll be putting up test shots and stuff there over time, I think.
allan
jan normandale
03-16-2006, 15:38
I'm registered, now I'll start on the project. How many books should we do five or ten?
(Humour)
JoeFriday
03-16-2006, 15:55
jan, if you have enough photos for 5 or 10 books, give some to me.. I had a hard time coming up with 2 photos for the 2nd RFF book
back alley
03-16-2006, 16:21
ok, i registered.
i have no idea what to do next...;)
i think i'll check out the free software gene told us about.
i can put 5 to 7 pics together but it won't be new to anyone who has visited my gallery - but it will be a start. and maybe a few old poems.
some love poems...:)
Byuphoto
03-16-2006, 17:16
I registered but will have to wait till Sat. to work on it
Todd.Hanz
03-16-2006, 19:41
I made mine in CS (photoshop), this is a test, let me know if it works for you.
Todd
Todd.Hanz
03-16-2006, 19:45
huh? it opens but it runs all my pics at a resolution above 100%, odd....
Todd
huh? it opens but it runs all my pics at a resolution above 100%, odd....
Todd
Looks great, Todd. The transitions work nice. Some of the lines are coming out with 'jaggies.' Did you set the display in Acrobat to 'Fit to Page,' or 'Actual Size'?
:)
jan normandale
03-21-2006, 17:19
Hey RFF'ers where are we on this? I think I'm going to start assembling something and I'm wondering if we have a time line or is it going to be open ended to the group with some reasonable drop dead date for submission?
jan normandale
03-21-2006, 17:22
jan, if you have enough photos for 5 or 10 books, give some to me.. I had a hard time coming up with 2 photos for the 2nd RFF book
@ the Python fan type guy... sure I'll give you shots about how to catch trout or maybe build a rod, or cast, or tie flies, or drink, or sleep but you can only pick one. Okay?
Jan, let's just upload to Allan's blog site when were done, and maybe make an announcement here (?). I haven't checked the site recently, but I know some people were pretty close.
I've set up 4-page test booklet to try some stuff out, so I'm getting there, too.
:)
I won't be able to get to this until later this week. Sheesh! :-)
The blog seems to be pretty stable. I will put some effort into changing the header image later this week, but work beckons.
allan
JoeFriday
03-21-2006, 20:15
@ the Python fan type guy... sure I'll give you shots about how to catch trout or maybe build a rod, or cast, or tie flies, or drink, or sleep but you can only pick one. Okay?
well, I know how to cast.. I can buy flies.. I learned how to drink in college.. I sleep as long as I want on weekends.. and I already have 6 rods.. show me how to catch a trout, please
sfb_dot_com
03-23-2006, 02:18
Phew!,
Got to this pretty late as I didn't relate the title to the content. However I've now registered and as I have a Mac it won't be too difficult producing the pdf stuff. I might struggle a little with content a little because of current knee injury, but I'll definitely come up with something!
Count me In!
Andy
ps - just noticed this is my 100th post! wooohooo :p (sorry going a bit stir crazy here)
el_rico_es
03-23-2006, 09:38
Just registered on Allan's site.. Thanks for the great idea..
dazedgonebye
03-23-2006, 09:57
Hey, am I too late for this?
I've got all the tools I need and can offer server space if needed.
I'll have to scratch to find enough worthy images. I haven't been shooting rangefiner cameras for all that long.
You're not too late to participate in the photo book "swap" At this point, put together your book, based on the guidelines in the first thread (5-7 RF images is the only REAL guideline here), and then upload to the site. A few people have posted some test files in this thread if you need some ideas. I for one, can't wait to see them!
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jan normandale
03-24-2006, 07:25
How big are the PDF's everyone else has so far? My PDF is 92 MB I'm not certain what is happening here but I'd like an indication from some others about the size of the PDF's they have created. I'm sure it should be smaller.
Maybe an indication of image dimensions used by others on this project would be helpful. I've used 1500 pixels on the long side for better image quality and I'm thinking this may be the issue.
Stephanie Brim
03-24-2006, 07:29
It depends on how high quality you want it to be. Professional printing standard is usually 300 DPI for images and 600DPI for text, IIRC. When I was researching graphic design back when I first got on the 'net, I read that *somewhere*.
JoeFriday
03-24-2006, 07:39
I was under the impression these were going to be set up for computer viewing.. in which case, either 72 or 75 dpi is the standard for photos.. and a 5 photo document would probably be around 2 megs or less
you don't set a dpi for text, so don't worry about that.. but make sure the fonts are embedded
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 07:49
Looks like I was successful with my upload. My .pdf works when I view it. Can someone else take a look?
http://photos.kaiyen.com/rffBlog/wp-content/dazedgonebye.pdf
That was actually made easy by the fact that I have so few rangefinder shots.
back alley
03-24-2006, 07:52
it works!
looks good too.
JoeFriday
03-24-2006, 08:03
yep.. looks good.. and is a good size.. well done!
Yes! Looks great, Steve. I agree the size is good. A nice sudy of the museum! I hadn't put tech information in mine, but now I think I might do that.
:)
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 08:33
Thanks for looking guys.
I was just counting things up and realized that, though I now have 5 rangefinder cameras, I only have a dozen or so rolls of film for shots to choose from. I've shot other rolls, but mostly to check out the camera and resolve functional/light leak issues.
I think I'm acutally on a path now that will allow me to get some more presentable images.
JoeFriday
03-24-2006, 08:55
oddly enough, most of my best shots are from my 'test rolls' where I'm just playing around to see if the camera works.. it's when I get serious that my images become boring
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 08:59
oddly enough, most of my best shots are from my 'test rolls' where I'm just playing around to see if the camera works.. it's when I get serious that my images become boring
Well then, I recommend about 4 fingers of your favorite brown liquor before shooting. Nothing like getting a little loose to help the right side of the brain take over. :D
(This actually works for shooting guns as well, but since the consequences for a lapse in judgement are so much more severe, I don't recommend it. :eek: )
Steve,
Well done! Those are some excellent images, and they hold together nicely. 5-7 images is a nice quantity to form a cohesive theme, I must say. The 8-15 photo portfolios I have to do at school can be tougher.
Just fyi - I created an actual blog post for your entry. I listed you as the author (I have "god" rights so I can do that mwahahahah) so you can edit it if you want. Perhaps provide some background information? perhaps not. Some prefer to let the work stand on its own.
The post is at http://photos.kaiyen.com/rffBlog/?p=459
I've also removed the sticky from the book project announcement.
allan
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 09:46
I got started this late and somehow I'm the first to upload?
I took those shots on a business trip to LA. I did not think I'd get any real time to myself, so all I brought with me was the Balda and 2 rolls of T-max. When the chance to go to the Getty came up, I started kicking myself. I would have taken a DSLR, an ultra-wide and a short telephoto at least.
I'm happy with how it turned out though. It really taught me what I'd been missing in MF.
Steve,
What do you mean by what you are "missing in MF?" What MF gives you that you don't get with your DSLR? What limitations MF has?
allan
Nice stuff Steve. Good to see that somebody's actually done it - was going to get mine done last weekend, but events overtook me. Going to try for this weekend. BTW Really like the desert shots on your web site.
Regards
Gid
jan normandale
03-24-2006, 11:17
I was under the impression these were going to be set up for computer viewing.. in which case, either 72 or 75 dpi is the standard for photos.. and a 5 photo document would probably be around 2 megs or less
you don't set a dpi for text, so don't worry about that.. but make sure the fonts are embedded
thats what I thought, normally when I save shots in PS for the web they end up about 150-180 kb. For some reason I can't figure out they are much larger. I'll figure it out.
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 11:27
Sorry that wasn't very clear Alan.
I should have said something about missing out by not shooting MF. Not to start a war, but 35mm negs fail to thrill me when I scan them. 6x6 is another matter. Medium format makes film worth the effort for me.
It's not that I really need the extra information in the file. I don't do that much printing (though I do prepare my shots as though I would print), I just like the look and feel of the file.
The main limitation I experience with that little balda is the single FL at a field of view that I'm not really fond of. Still, in the short term, a limitation like a single FL can be a good thing for what you are forced to do and learn. Even so, I'm looking forward to the 58mm lens coming in for my Koni-Omega.
dazedgonebye
03-24-2006, 11:30
Nice stuff Steve. Good to see that somebody's actually done it - was going to get mine done last weekend, but events overtook me. Going to try for this weekend. BTW Really like the desert shots on your web site.
Regards
Gid
I figured I was coming late to the game, so I put it together after I got the kids to bed last night.
Glad you like those desert shots. They are some of my favorite stuff. It took me years to come to appreciate the desert enough to do it some justice.
My finished PDF came in at 7MB. Now, I just need to upload it!
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jan normandale
03-26-2006, 23:15
I noted earlier in this thread I have my shots done and in MSWord at about 3.0 mb. I converted to a PDF and came up with a 92 mb doc! I've tried but no way can I create an account at Adobe. They say my email address is already taken and I must create a new user and new email account! I tried GeneW's suggestion of going to the open source Office document. It has a problem with Mac OS X 10.4 .. not ready yet or something. So now I'm at a dead end.
Anyone interested in taking my MS Word doc and converting it to a PDF for this forum? I appreciate any help... thanks, Jan
Jan,
If you want to send it to me, I'll see what I can do.
:)
jan normandale
03-27-2006, 05:59
Ray, I'm going to work now. I'm going to try one more time. If it doesn't work out. I'll pm you and then forward the Word doc.
thanks and appreciated!
Jan
Jan,
If you want to send it to me, I'll see what I can do.
:)
Finally got mine uploaded. http://photos.kaiyen.com/rffBlog/wp-content/GidsPhotoBook.pdf
There are two earlier versions, the result of not knowing what I'm doing.
Originally was just under 10 Mb, but got it down to just over 1 Mb by reducing dpi to 150 from 300 for the images.
Regards
Gid
As Gid and Ray have discovered, there is a somewhat mysterious 2MB limit to uploads for now. I am working with my hosting company to fix this. This is only with php-based uploads - worst case, just send me the pdfs and I'll FTP Them over.
Will update later today, hopefully.
allan
Excellent, Gid! Very thoughtful, an easy read with some great images too. :)
I'm kind of worried. I've got mine set to display in full screen mode. I'm wondering how the browsers will handle that. On a Mac, if you click on a PDF (tiger), the file plays in the browser.
Hmmm. I'll need to test it.
:)
dazedgonebye
03-27-2006, 14:37
Well, I'm no longer alone...
Has anyone else noticed that these do not open on page one? Could someone verify that. I think they both open on page 4.
Ray,
Unfortunately, that stuff is going to be system dependent. I couldn't get the hang of how Firefox decided to open pdfs, so I downloaded an extension that "reminds" me to download the pdf locally for opening. I never view a PDF in my browser at all. So it's a lot more controlled for me.
allan
We're getting a good supply in now, with more to come. It's not too late to to join in.
:)
Just fyi - one should be able to upload files up to 10MB in size now to the blog. It'll take some time, but they'll upload.
allan
OK, finally got one done. 4.9meg I was inspired to get it finished by the excellent RFF book 2. It's nothing fancy but I hope you find it interesting.
OK, finally got one done. 4.9meg It's nothing fancy but I needed to get something uploaded to feel like less of a slacker. ;) I hope you find it interesting.
Yay!! I'm heading over to check it out!
:)
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