Show off your Leica I/II/III/LTM Camera

[harmsr]

OK, I admit it also. I am addicted to my iiif.

Besides loving its mechanical precision feel, it makes me think about lighting and exposure vs. always trusting a meter and letting the camera tell me what it wants to do.

Here is my iiif with col. Summicron and other accessories. I also like using this lens on the M5 with bayonet adaptor. My other fun lens for this one is 50 2.8 Elmar.

Best,

Ray

[Film dino]

My IIIc- Summitar- SBOOI combo

[reagan]

Late night... bored at desk...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/CVBLZ4/GoK/smiley.jpg?t=1173297762


my current desktop background...

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/CVBLZ4/GoK/gear-1.jpg?t=1173297816

[Peter_Jones]

If this works, here's my 111c.

[john neal]

OK, here are my LTM toys:-

1937 IIIa, 1948 IIIc, 1939 Standard

Not a very good pic (I hate these digithings!)

[Austerby]

Here's my pride and joy - I love using this camera and it takes great photos. 50mm f2 Summitar attached.

[reagan]

Welcome to RFF, Austerby! Your pride and joy... very nice.

John - "digithings" - ha! I recently bought an Olympus that's really nice, easy to use, etc. I'm just havin' a hard time getting into it. :cool: Anyway, you've got a good trio there.

[CosmicCharlie]

Hi I have attached a image of the top of a III, Just want to know if this is the real deal? I have not seen the DRP right under the Leica logo before?
Thank you Jon

[HuubL]

Both my IIIc and IIIf have DRP written directly under the Leica script logo (well, infact the IIIf has DBP (Deutches Bundespatent) instead of DRP (Deutches Reichspatent).

[CosmicCharlie]

Thanks HUBBL,
I wasn't sure what I had, thank you

[ZeMane]

Here is my recently adquired IIIf, not used yet since it needs the shutter curtains to be replaced... I will send it next week to Oleg for taking care of it, after reading all the excellent comments about his job :)

[xayraa33]

Hi I have attached a image of the top of a III, Just want to know if this is the real deal? I have not seen the DRP right under the Leica logo before?
Thank you Jon

The earlier Leica III had the DRP under Wetzlar.

[super8mm]

Here's mine:

http://www.outriggercanoe.com/mypics/LeicaIIIcsetup.jpg

Cheers,
Mike

[Ron Glaze]

No... Not a real 3 Crown, but its Leica 100% and maybe a factory made.
The Serial is early pre 3 Crown so I'm not sure. Anybody want to weigh in.
Ron
rglaze@att.net

[jarski]

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My Barnack from 1932. Leica II accompanied with Nikon FE.

I have to confes this Leica does not get much action, I get a bit dizzy looking through the small viewfinder :o

[jarski]

42857

I add another shot from same Leica. This time accompanied with even older item, Illinois Watch Co's pocket watch, my great grandfather brought back to Europe from America.

Leica I got from eBay, so unfortunately I dont know any stories it has to tell. Yes I know, I am a big sucker for old things...

[350D_user]

I add another shot from same Leica. This time accompanied with even older item, Illinois Watch Co's pocket watch, my great grandfather brought back to Europe from America.
Nice watch. I've gotta get my 1922 Elgin repaired, the mainspring's snapped.

Sadly, darkroom/film/camera equipment are higher up the list of priorities... so far.

[jarski]

Nice watch. I've gotta get my 1922 Elgin repaired, the mainspring's snapped.
thanks for reply, I would ask pics of your Elgin if this wouldnt be LTM thread :o

my Illinois was in zillion pieces when I inherited it, luckily one relative had next door neighbour an old school clock smith,
who was capable and willing to repair it with decent price :)

[DannL]

I figure being the new kid on the block, I should jump right in here and show my latest toy. $49.00 from a local thrift store. I will probably be squeezing everyone for lots of information, so consider yourselves warned. ;-)

No. 304168

I completed a number of repairs on her . . .

Cleaned the fog between the lens elements.
Cleaned up a fungus type spot on the front element.
Reattached the vulcanite covering which was loose.
Adjusted the curtain tensions to the point where there is no more banding on the film.
Sewed up the case and replaced the missing leather strap. Ad hoc.

Unresolved problem - flash sync not working properly. Should be an easy fix.

I learned a lot working on this puppy. A big howdy from Oklahoma.

[HuubL]

49$ is a very, very good price for an original Leica TM. Even with the added flash contact. And it looks great! Congratulations!

[DannL]

49$ is a very, very good price for an original Leica TM. Even with the added flash contact. And it looks great! Congratulations!

Thanks Huub, you are correct. I also thought that was a very good price. One thing I have noticed, which I have also read in previous reviews . . . There really isn't anything that compares to holding a Leica in the palm of your hand. There's a certain tingling sensation.

I noticed the "L" on the end of your handle. "Mein Familienname ist Lampe" (I think I said that correctly). That's a very common family name in your parts, is it not?

[HuubL]

Thanks Huub, you are correct. I also thought that was a very good price. One thing I have noticed, which I have also read in previous reviews . . . There really isn't anything that compares to holding a Leica in the palm of your hand. There's a certain tingling sensation.

I noticed the "L" on the end of your handle. "Mein Familienname ist Lampe" (I think I said that correctly). That's a very common family name in your parts, is it not?


No, the L in my name is not for Lampe but for Linthorst, not such a common family name in the Netherlands ;)

[Xmas]

Jon

Not seen a Ru with the dioptre correction like yours...

Noel

[tedwhite]

Here's my IIIF

[CosmicCharlie]

I am loving my new to me III (f)
Just put a new Aki Skin on a Gordy's Strap and Loaded with Tri-X
Digital-Smigital:)

[Gordon Coale]

Trying out some new/old film in my Barnacks. New to me, at least since I haven't used them in a long time. I have the Leica IIIc loaded with Kodachrome 64 (http://www.electricedge.com/greymatter/archives/00007505.htm) and the Zorki Standard has Tri-X. The finder in the second two pictures is a WINTU. A right angle finder. It has a little prism that swings down and works for focusing. And my Weston Master IV is back with a new cell and nicely calibrated. Forward, into the past!

[payasam]

DrLeoB, your IIIf ca. 1946 arouses curiosity. A prototype?

[Seabadger]

May as well introduce myself - just bought a Leica IIIf. Now that my Olympus OM-1 is living on its last batteries it seems like the last reason not to get one has gone - although I also have a digital camera for when you just need something to put in your pocket.

The camera will definitely be a shooter, and on the basis of the first roll of film seems to be working absolutely fine, although the rather scratched Summar will be getting replaced some time soon. I've been reading this place for a while before registering, and I look forward to learning a thing or two.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5928/cimg0112yh2.jpg

[GoodPhotos]

Introduction:
Michael Eric Berube, GoodPhotos.com/AnotherMaine.com

Long time LUGger. Shoot strictly digital for work now. RF for fun.
Sold my CL. Sold my M5. Sold my M4P. Sold my Bessa R & R2.
I don't really miss any of them.
I couldn't, however, bring myself to sell the battle worn and pitted, venerable IIIc.
I've also just acquired a very nice IIIf to also use with my Summarit 50mm/1.5 and my Elmar 9cm/4...

http://goodphotos.com/IIIfsm.jpg


http://goodphotos.com/LTMsm.jpg

[GoodPhotos]

OK. So I've found that I so prefer the IIIf that I DID part with the IIIc and traded the older body to a dear friend for a Rolleiflex MX-EVS type 2 (75/3.5 Schneider-K) that he wasn't using much. I've always wanted a Rollei and other than an old Ikon 6X9, I didn't have a medium format any more.

Also added a red dot to the IIIf, just for fun...(like I had previously to my old M5.)

http://goodphotos.com/IIIfRedDotSm.jpg

I'll eventually add a 21/4 CV to the RF kit and go have even more fun with it.

(the former Red Dotted M5...)
http://goodphotos.com/RedDot.jpg

[lasamo]

IIIc with Summitar 50/2.0, original EU36 UV filter and Barndoor Hood

[richard_l]

IIf in almost perfect cosmetic condition except for a couple of scuff marks on the base plate.

[Seabadger]

GoodPhotos - mind if I ask what the red filter over the right rangefinder window is? Does it help with focussing? This is the IIIf above with the VC 50mm Color Skopar attached. I was sorely tempted by the f1.5 Nokton but was put off by the sheer size of it. Having taken a few test rolls I have the feeling I'll end up using the Skopar for colour and the Summar for B&W. http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4756/cimg0165tt6.jpg

[raid]

OK. So I've found that I so prefer the IIIf that I DID part with the IIIc and traded the older body to a dear friend for a Rolleiflex MX-EVS type 2 (75/3.5 Schneider-K) that he wasn't using much. I've always wanted a Rollei and other than an old Ikon 6X9, I didn't have a medium format any more.

Also added a red dot to the IIIf, just for fun...(like I had previously to my old M5.)

http://goodphotos.com/IIIfRedDotSm.jpg

I'll eventually add a 21/4 CV to the RF kit and go have even more fun with it.

(the former Red Dotted M5...)
http://goodphotos.com/RedDot.jpg

GoodPhotos: Your fine cameras deserve at least one classic Leica lens.

Raid

[john neal]

Seabadger,

yes the little push-on orange cover (ORAKU or OKARU, depending on your camera model) is to assist in focussing. Because only one window is covered, you get a brighter central dot that give increased contrast which makes it easier to see when focus is achieved.

I had one and stupidly sold it with my IIIf, now I need one for my IIIc and II (Doh!)

[Seabadger]

John - many thanks. I may try to find one of these or possibly see if I can improvise something - from what you've said it's sounds as though they're rarities. I have the feeling the rangefinder (and shutter, for the slow speeds at least) would benefit from a service - should be able to get round to it within the next few months, I hope.

[john neal]

John - many thanks. I may try to find one of these or possibly see if I can improvise something - from what you've said it's sounds as though they're rarities. I have the feeling the rangefinder (and shutter, for the slow speeds at least) would benefit from a service - should be able to get round to it within the next few months, I hope.

Seabadger,

DAG has both types (i.e. up to IIIb and IIIc onward) available at $25 each - a very good price for what is becoming a rarity. In the UK they are often £25 to £30 each. I need to order some other stuff from Don, and may well include one of these for my IIIc.

[Trawlerman]

Here's my new 1939 Leica III with Summar 50/2.
It's seen some hard usage over the years but it still works perfectly. The top plate of this camera has a substantial amount of brassing but no damage. The rangefinder patch is still nice and contrasty and seems to be calibrated correctly.

I guess the old uncoated Summar that it carries right now wouldn't be worth shooting with these days? FWIW i'm gonna replace that with an Industar 61 for now.

This camera came from eBay-UK for £72 UKP + postage. A veritable bargain methinks and my introduction to a real life Leica. The only problem is that I now want a good condition IIIc or IIIf to shoot with!


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1030/528759117_ff4d8e0bc1_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1109/528671582_ca8f49cab6_o.jpg

[Rico]

Brassing? Looks like it encountered the business end of an orbital sander! :)

[john neal]

Wow! Bargain or what? I would love to have a Summar - let me know if you want to sell it.

The brassing looks like some sort of chemical reaction - perhaps it was stood in a pool of vinegar for a few years?

A candidate for black paint, perhaps....

[Peter_Jones]

I think it gives it "character"

btw , Trawlerman - yes, the old uncoated summar is useless, send it to me for safe disposal ;)

Only joking, have a look around the forum for some excellent shots taken with uncoated lenses - there'll be plenty of life in the old dog yet :) give it a try - you might love it !

[Trawlerman]

I think it gives it "character"

btw , Trawlerman - yes, the old uncoated summar is useless, send it to me for safe disposal ;)

Only joking, have a look around the forum for some excellent shots taken with uncoated lenses - there'll be plenty of life in the old dog yet :) give it a try - you might love it !


Peter,

Thanks for the comments. I'll have a look around for pics from a Summar. If it's still ok I might give it a run out sometime.

For now i'm happy just to have a Leica even if it does look a bit a dilapidated. :rolleyes:

[GoodPhotos]

GoodPhotos - mind if I ask what the red filter over the right rangefinder window is?

My apologies for not answering sooner. I've been PhotoShopping weddings.
Yes, as John Nicely pointed out, the RF filter helps provide contrast for faster focusing. You CAN put it on either RF window giving you either an orange patch in a clear field or a clear patch in an orange field (as I have it.)

I found mine on the IIIf that I have now, but bought it for use on my IIIc before I bought the IIIf. Paid about $10.
:)

[GoodPhotos]

GoodPhotos: Your fine cameras deserve at least one classic Leica lens.

My Summarit is the greatest of classic Leitz glass as is my 9CM/4 Elmar!
:rolleyes:
I no longer have the M5 or the CV 25/4 that is mounted on it in that photo, though I may end up picking one of them OR the CV 21/4 again for wide use.

[Seabadger]

GoodPhotos - thanks.

John - is DAG a member / dealer on this site? Apologies to both of you for what may be daft questions but I'm still very much finding my way both with this site and with LTM Leicas.

Trawlerman - from my limited experience, I wouldn't get rid of the Summar without giving it a fair chance. Having put a few rolls through my IIIf with a Summar, I'm certainly going to keep the lens. It's not up to anything like modern standard lens quality in almost every way, but it has something about it when used for B&W wide open or so.

[john neal]

Seabadger,

I don't think DAG is a member here (bicbw), have a look at the DAG Camera website, on the LTM page here:
http://dagcamera.com/leica.htm

i have bought parts from Don and he does offer a really good service.

[LeicaTom]

Here`s my Leica IIIC K Grey that`s just arrived in the mail today, many thanks to the "Doctor" for the opportunity to acquire this amazing and very historical Leica, one of only 500 that was delivered to the US Army in May 1945


More about this camera and the history of it in a separate thread coming soon.....

[migtex]

WOW! Bring the story on the Leica!
My humble Tower... the only reason I bought her was to use the Nikkor's LTM that I have.. turn out being much better than expected... surprise surprise!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/162/423980508_476d9c9be3_b.jpg

[GoodPhotos]

Here`s my Leica IIIC K Grey that`s just arrived in the mail today, many thanks to the "Doctor" for the opportunity to acquire this amazing and very historical Leica, one of only 500 that was delivered to the US Army in May 1945


More about this camera and the history of it in a separate thread coming soon.....


Does yours have "W.H." engraved on it?

I had a guy come into the shop I work at PT a month or so ago with a K that looked as nice as the one you've got there. Stupidly, I didn't get his contact information. he claims to have an offer in on an entire military issue kit for the K that he is thinking of buying and I didn't know where to send him for more info other than Stephen Gandy's short write up on the camera. I've since got all sorts of information for him and a few expert collectors who want to speak with him about this tidy bit of History. His is a "Wehrmacht Heer" version evidently because it is engraved "W.H." on the top plate. T

I REALLY wish I'd thought to get his contact information. I don't want his camera, (quite happy with a useable IIIf RD) I'm just really interested in the history of it.

[murrayb53]

It would be interesting to know if the WH was original.
Keep in mind there are Russian and Polish counterfeit WH and HH (Heinrich Hoffman, Hitler's Photographer) copies available on eBay. Some of the fakes are really wacky and obviously fake while others are quite good. You can find a Fed 1 with Leica markings and the WH either engraved or screened in the proper place. Unless one is aware of all the original markings, serial numbers, and real Leica's to begin with, it would be easy to purchase a fake that was sold with a good war story for a few hundred bucks instead of paying the thousands the original would be worth.
One easy give away when trying to spot fake military Leica's is to note the shutter release. Real Leica's of that vintage did not have a cable release socket opening in the release. That type of "Leica" would be a Zorki body.

Steve

[cary]

http://www.pixhost.com/pixr/raisin8/leica-iiif.jpg

Here's mine, a IIIF that I got from DAG, 90mm Elmar from Ebay-$57 with M adapter and VIOOH finder.

[LeicaTom]

Does yours have "W.H." engraved on it?

I had a guy come into the shop I work at PT a month or so ago with a K that looked as nice as the one you've got there. Stupidly, I didn't get his contact information. he claims to have an offer in on an entire military issue kit for the K that he is thinking of buying and I didn't know where to send him for more info other than Stephen Gandy's short write up on the camera. I've since got all sorts of information for him and a few expert collectors who want to speak with him about this tidy bit of History. His is a "Wehrmacht Heer" version evidently because it is engraved "W.H." on the top plate. T

I REALLY wish I'd thought to get his contact information. I don't want his camera, (quite happy with a useable IIIf RD) I'm just really interested in the history of it.

WOW! If he comes back to the SHOP get his infos for me, I would be very interested to help him out :)

No mine is a US Army issue camera, it was made during the last weeks of WW2 but NEVER delivered to the German Army, shortly after the surrender a US Army General took delivery of 500 of them, all Grey IIIC K cameras and they were given to various American Army officers in the ETO

[LeicaTom]

It would be interesting to know if the WH was original.
Keep in mind there are Russian and Polish counterfeit WH and HH (Heinrich Hoffman, Hitler's Photographer) copies available on eBay. Some of the fakes are really wacky and obviously fake while others are quite good. You can find a Fed 1 with Leica markings and the WH either engraved or screened in the proper place. Unless one is aware of all the original markings, serial numbers, and real Leica's to begin with, it would be easy to purchase a fake that was sold with a good war story for a few hundred bucks instead of paying the thousands the original would be worth.
One easy give away when trying to spot fake military Leica's is to note the shutter release. Real Leica's of that vintage did not have a cable release socket opening in the release. That type of "Leica" would be a Zorki body.

Steve

I`ve uncovered in the past two months (1) fake and (1) very modified and doubtful IIIC K on the ebay, it`s a good place to buy "normal" vintage Leitz equipment, but the rarer it gets the more suspect I am.....

One did sell RECENTLY there that was the REAL thing and a new owner got a great deal and paid a little less than $2,000 for it, it was also a US Army Issue camera as mine is

PS: as for Hoffman`s cameras....they were NEVER engraved as such, I knew of only ONE camera that was 100% positively his and that was a 1939 IIIB with a Mooly motor that they recovered original paperwork bearing his ownership on the camera, it was also *very well used*

[tooner]

Hello,

My first post here. Just joined today. I am returning to film photography after being away for forty years or so. I have just recently purchased my first Leica, a 1932 Leica II (D) SN 92605, lavoratory seat model, with what was said to be its original lens, a 5cm Elmar 1:3.5 with infinity at 11 o'clock, no SN on lens. If I figure this postng out, there will be a photo attached. Comments about whether the lens is likely original or not would be appreciated. I thought I should start where Leica started. :)

My previous stead - of years past - was a Canonflex that I bought in 1960. I still have it, with a very nice 100 mm 1:2 lens, great for portraiture, except for the *kerplunk* of the instant return reflex mirror. I am looking forward to a quieter and more gentle exposure signature.

Of the things I have learned so far, the most baffling is the LTM thread specification as M39 x 26 TPI. That pitch is close to 1.0 mm. How did that heppen, OB?

I am looking for a portrait lens, a short telephoto of 85 to 100mm focal length. Recommendations would be appreciated.

Lookin' Ahead,

RC in Vermont, USA, sunny and hot (95F = 35C) today for an unusual change

[reagan]

Congrats on the Barnack, tooner and welcome to RFF. Nice looking outfit. I use mostly wides, but I have an uncoated Elmar 9cm that I use rarely/occasionally. Works for me and they can usually be acquired at a very reasonable price.

[payasam]

Cary, I expect you mention the M adapter only in passing.

Tooner, with any lens other than a 50 mm, you'll need an accessory finder.

[Dralowid]

Hi Tooner,

At first I suspect that the 11 o'clock Elmar is a bit older than the camera but have no way to prove it. Some 11 o'clock lenses were modified from fixed versions.

A 90XXX serial number puts the camera around 1932. I think I remember reading that was around the time they moved away from the 11 o'clock position, so it might be the original lens.

So, maybe yes, maybe no.

So, you might say, why bother to write this post? The answer is that there are plenty of unknowns about Leica production and trying to find out more is a hobby of mine. Maybe someone who does know the date of introduction of the infinity lock will chip in.

Whatever, it's a great camera and lens.

Michael

[mauro scacco]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1345/631881983_60269271e2.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1332/637714133_3fa8331f97.jpg

[payasam]

Mauro, what (second photo) is the pale blue thingummy near the shutter speed dial? Looks like a bit of glass or a reflection, but both are unlikely.

[john neal]

A 90XXX serial number puts the camera around 1932. I think I remember reading that was around the time they moved away from the 11 o'clock position, so it might be the original lens.


Michael,

I have a II body with a 8xxxx serial, probably from the same batch. I too think this is 1932, and my 11 o'clock Elmar has a serial that is pre-1933. From my research, the Elmar did not have a serial prior to 1932, when numbering started at 80000. Mine is in the 120xxx range and pre-1933, according to Leica records.
1933 was about when the 7 o'clock became the standard infinity lock position.

[L39UK]

Hello tooner,
Your elmar lens is a un-numbered version and would not have been originally purchased with your Leica II serial no. 92605.
Un-numbered Elmars were originally fitted to Leica 1 o/c cameras i.e. the first interchangeable lens camera with 28.8 mm register.Your original lens for the Leica II serial no.92605 would have been an II o'clock Elmar with a serial number around 123,473 ( 92605 + 30868) an increase of 33% of the body serial no..

Regarding your query"Of the things I have learned so far, the most baffling is the LTM thread specification as M39 x 26 TPI. That pitch is close to 1.0 mm. How did that happen, OB"

Before Leitz became camera manufacturers their main product was microscopes.All microscopes were and still are made to the international standards set by the Royal Microscopical Society in London.
All microscope making machinery was internationally set to the ( Royal Microscopical Society ) RMS TPI(Threads per inch) standard.
All lathes etc, in the Leitz factory would have been geared to the RMS-TPI standard and Leitz would have had no option but to standardize their new product to what they could produce on their existing machines, otherwise they would have to replace all their existing machines at great capital expense.This would have been a very great risk since they were producing a new product,the Leica camera,which had still to meet the approval of the buying public.This resulted in the LTM thread specification being set in TPI at 39mm x 26 TPI. and not to the metric mm.thread and this continued until the demise of the Screw Thread Leica in the early 60's.

Enjoy your Leica,
Regards,
William

[reagan]

Interesting info, William. Love the history tidbits. Thanx!

[350D_user]

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"Eva", a 1938 Standard, complete with a 1936 uncoated 3.5cm Elmar.
:D

[Ash]

Grr Dave, you have a nice elmar on it now. Well, I guess mine had a summicron on it for a while (and mine's nice black) :D

[350D_user]

Body colour is meaningless really, although I am a sucker for brassing and nickel fittings. :)

[LeicaTom]

Here`s a shot of my very late production 1946 Leica IIIC "Half Race" bearing wartime stepped rewind platform bodied camera (from my avatar) with a same year date (coated) Elmar f3.5 50mm in a really nice Black case with that FISON hood......takes wonderful photos and also doubles as a great Retro prop for my models :)
*thats the beautiful Giana Bella* who`s one of my Florida Muses - stay tuned for more pix with her in the future (artistic nudes with the Canon f1.5)- and in about two weeks I`ll be paring this Leica up with a Canon f1.5 50mm I just bought complete with caps, UV filter and hood - photos coming soon!

[Ash]

Here's a recent shot of the Leica Standard.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/second-belated/DSC00476.jpg

If I can source a nice 50mm M-mount lens for the M2, then I'll place the old ltm Summicron back on the standard, but otherwise I would really like to find an old Elmar or Summar ltm!!

[350D_user]

Here's a recent shot of the Leica Standard.
A nice Standard you have there. :)

[350D_user]

One more, thanks to seeing some scrawlings in a book I've bought off Ebay...
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Sadly, I had to chop some stuff off about something called "Rodinal". :(

[pkrpkr]

Here's one of mine together with some fakes.
http://www.vintage-camera-online.com/php/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6

[john neal]

Here's one of mine together with some fakes.
http://www.vintage-camera-online.com/php/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6


Nice, but your "Lieca 1" looks like a II to me - the 1 did not have a rangefinder

[Ash]

John, I think the Leica 1/2 is merely the jpg filename, not a description :)

[reagan]

John, I think the Leica 1/2 is merely the jpg filename, not a description :)That was my assumption too, a filename. My second thought was, "It's a beauty!" Altogether, a good group, pkrpkr. http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[JimG]

Still waiting for my IIf to return from Olig's Spa. Then my father's 1936 Leica III will go to daughter with the 2 duplicate lenses, now that she's decided she does want it.

[landsknechte]

Still waiting for my IIf to return from Olig's Spa. Then my father's 1936 Leica III will go to daughter with the 2 duplicate lenses, now that she's decided she does want it.

*sigh*

Why did I have to come from an Instamatic family?

[JimG]

*sigh*

Why did I have to come from an Instamatic family?

Don't feel bad when I turned 16 my dad gave me his 1956 Stutabaker Champion flat six that ran on 4 cylinders on a good day.

Edit: OK, it's Studebaker not Stutabaker. Maybe he thought anyone who spelled as badly as I should not have any grandiose expectations about their future.

[john neal]

John, I think the Leica 1/2 is merely the jpg filename, not a description :)


OK - shoot me as a pedant ;)

[payasam]

Jim, surely you mean a Stutterbaker.

[colyn]

Custom black paint IIIc with 21mm f/4 CV Color-Skopar lens and finder

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[reagan]

Nice, colyn. Very nice. http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[payasam]

That looks faintly menacing, Colyn. Possibly the chrome R/F windows.

[LeicaTom]

Here`s an up to date photo of my 1946 "Half Race" Leica IIIC Chrome
in a aftermarket halfcase with my "Mistress" of a lens that wonderful f1.5 Canon 50mm
with UV and original hood - Enjoy!

Tom

http://www.members.aol.com/KOOLGIRLIESTUFF/canon1.5on1945leicaIIIC.jpeg

[Charles Woodhouse]

I bought a 1945 Half Race no.394455,from a bloke in England in January.The number I quoted is the frame number.The camera was such a mess that I decided to skeletonise it to show the internal workings (Schnitt or cut,the Germans call it), and fit it with red curtains like the earlier IIIc's. I had no regrets about cutting out the top of the mismatched top plate to show the workings of the rangefinder.
Anyway my point is that when I dismantled the camera I found it was one of those scarce unmarked 1945 Full Race cameras,and the only way of telling is to remove the top plate.

[LeicaTom]

I bought a 1945 Half Race no.394455,from a bloke in England in January.The number I quoted is the frame number.The camera was such a mess that I decided to skeletonise it to show the internal workings (Schnitt or cut,the Germans call it), and fit it with red curtains like the earlier IIIc's. I had no regrets about cutting out the top of the mismatched top plate to show the workings of the rangefinder.
Anyway my point is that when I dismantled the camera I found it was one of those scarce unmarked 1945 Full Race cameras,and the only way of telling is to remove the top plate.

Well, I just got some info`s from Germany on the whole "Half Race" camera story

Camera`s built from 392000 to 397650 had ball bearings and pin bearings in the shutter assembly, they were built right after the IIIC K`s were built, as another TEST Leitz was doing at the time, they had no special outer markings or stamps and also no additional stamps or marks on the shutter curtain as did the K models, these were also the last cameras to have the raised metal step under the rewind lever

I was just told my camera was from a special order for the US Army
delivered on February 13th 1946 cameras #397208-397519
(mine is in the beginning of the 200 series numbers)
another one #397278 was sold like 2 days ago in the UK for $500

The latest number I`ve ever seen is #397494 is was a modified camera with black paint

My camera will NEED a CLA very soon, I want to get some detailed photos of the camera once it`s been taken apart, it`s nearly mint - (but) the rewind knob is very tight and I`m sure there`s some film chips in the bottom of the camera etc.

I was always after a LATE rewind stepper camera, not really knowing that they too have an interesting history and a strange build story, now mine`s a little bit more special to me, it`s a beauty but I STILL love to use it, it`s not going to gather dust at all and after the CLA it will get used even more:)

Tom

[BronicaLee]

Here is my newest member of the family, a gorgeous IIIc converted to IIIf with a
W. A. Astra 35mm 3.5 lens. Still testing her out.

[Keith]

My favourite street rig ... one day I'm going to get a Luigi Case for this camera ... it deserves it! :D

1936 Leica II with Red Scale 50mm Elmar and VCII

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2249.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2248.jpg

[Mr_Flibble]

My Leica IIIa (1936/1937) with 5cm Elmar f/16 lens (1946)

http://http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/leica.jpghttp://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/leica.jpg
Pardon the quick snapshot...my aging digital nearing the end of its lifecycle

This is my first original Leica after having owned and broken 3 escaped-from-tractor-factory ones.

I have had it for about 2 weeks now and in the process of running my first film through it (Adox CHS 100)

There's 9cm Elmar f/4 on the way for it, as well as a Vidom Viewfinder.

[payasam]

Mr. Flibble, that beauty deserves a better portrait.

[Mr_Flibble]

I agree, my old Ixus V2 does not do it justice at all,
Another attempt then

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/leicaIIIa.jpg

Body no. 229633
Lens no. 632526

Both are a little worse for wear, with the chrome getting thin here and there. But I wanted a camera to use, and not a collector's piece to store and cherish in a display case.

[payasam]

That's rather better, but if you'd had a reflector (an opened newspaper, say) to your right while taking the picture...
A camera which looks used is always more to be trusted than one which appears to have spent its life sitting.

[Sonnar2]

This is my newly deserved Barnack Leica, the oldest of my 60+ camera collection... I loooove her!

It was 265 USD with the coated Summar lens, not including the SBOOI viewfinder. Why bother with fakes at this low price levels? Actually it was cheaper than most of my Canon RF's. It works nicely at all speeds (1-1/500s) - as opposed to my Contax-II of the same era. I loaded a 400ASA Ilford B&W film. Now I understand the fascination of the small Barnack Leica at least a bit..

This is probably the camera where the 1.4/50 Canon looks best on as well...

Will see how bad the pictures with the Summar will come out; keep an eye for a coated Summitar for a perfect user Barnack Leica...

http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_01.jpg

http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_02.jpg

http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_05.jpg

http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_06.jpg

[LeicaTom]

ok let`s try this again........

this was just taken this morning (Saturday) this is my 1945 IIIC K and a few issues of Leica Photography Magazine from 1949

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/leica3ck3.jpeg/

I have a "wartime" 1943 (coated) f2.0 50mm Summitar on her now
(lens caps on this is a teaser photo)
This lens has been traded for some Canon RF equipment in California *see my signature* and will be going out in the post late next week.....but, not before I conduct a very interesting TEST of (two) legendary Leica lenses using THIS camera in
Black N' Wht 400 asa film with a very pretty model - stay tuned for the thread end of next week :)

Enjoy!

Tom

[Dralowid]

Sonnar2,

Particularly nice to see the 'black rim' Summar.

Don't see them too often. I have one also that is coated and first four digits of serial number are the same as yours.

Will post pics in a few days

Michael

[cjm]

Do I see the shutter cocked and set to 1/40 while also having the slow speed dial set at 1/8? I hope not.:(



http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_02.jpg

http://www.taunusreiter.de/cameras/Leica_Barnack_05.jpg



Beautiful camera by the way.

[Sonnar2]

In the meantime I've got my first B&W film through (400ASA, whichs allows using at f/9 mainly) and they came out quite well!
The shutter sounds very smooth and seems to work precise except for the 1s.

[TheHub]

Here is my currently "naked" IIIf RD ST. I'm waiting for a leather cover for it.
I'm still shooting with it though (waste not want not.) I'm using a Canon 1.8 lens and VC II on it.

[alternatve]

Here is my currently "naked" IIIf RD ST. I'm waiting for a leather cover for it.
I'm still shooting with it though (waste not want not.) I'm using a Canon 1.8 lens and VC II on it.

Is it hard to remove the covering? I'm thinking of replacing the covering of my IIIf as well.

[reagan]

Is it hard to remove the covering? I'm thinking of replacing the covering of my IIIf as well.I've removed three over the last couple of years. They were all very hardened, like thick, black, smelly tortilla chips. ;) They came off easily, one in an almost complete single piece; the others in chipped pieces. The old glue must be sanded/rubbed off afterwards. No biggie.

[alternatve]

I see. Thanks! I don't have the cash for it now, after splurging on two lenses, but I'm thinking of one in the future. My IIIf deserves it. ;)

[payasam]

If you do the work, alternatve, the covering itself is not expensive.

[TheHub]

Here's my IIIf with it's new covering :) Can't wait to take it out tomorrow

I didn't take off the covering myself; Youxin Xe who CLAd it, did. He said something about heating the covering to remove it? not sure myself ...

[ClayH]

Working on some lighting stuff, so I thought the old CRR-Luton blackpainted IIIf would be a cool subject.

[payasam]

This must be the legendary White Dial IIIf.

[landsknechte]

My new toy, a 1939 III (IIIa conversion), with my old beater 1937 Elmar 90/4.

[LeicaTom]

Working on some lighting stuff, so I thought the old CRR-Luton blackpainted IIIf would be a cool subject.

Menge Meier!

That`s wunderschone :D

How much did that paintjob put you back and how long did you wait for it?

I`d like to have a Postwar IIIC "user" painted black like that someday

Tom

[Dingo]

I have a link about my new paint job, post here again just to let more members to say hello to my new toys :

[Sonnar2]

Menge Meier!

That`s wunderschone :D



True. In fact I would have bought a black post-war Leica instead of my black II of 1935 if I could get ahold of one!

But here in Germany no "serious" Leica-owner would think about a paint job for the holy legend. It could lose some € in worth, because it has lost it's originality! :)

[LeicaTom]

True. In fact I would have bought a black post-war Leica instead of my black II of 1935 if I could get ahold of one!

But here in Germany no "serious" Leica-owner would think about a paint job for the holy legend. It could lose some € in worth, because it has lost it's originality! :)

No I agree on the originality ideals, BUT and here comes the BUT, since I can`t find a Leitz Eigenturm black 1946' IIIC and I`m not a SERIOUS collector , so
I`d want a "beater" camera anyway for a repaint :)

I think a late 45'/46' "Half Race" or a mid 46' post 400000+ camera that`s been converted to IIIF BD is the PERFECT black paint camera.....while that too isn`t really original anymore either, well it`s just for ME anyway , for an expensive and classy looking USER :p
*and every Luton repaint IIIC/IIIF I`ve even seen sold sells for at least $500+ so there`s not too much investment lost*

Tom

PS: I mean I would`nt restore a IIIC K "Grey" either *unless* like 70% or more of the paint`s gone/brassed away and the vulcanite`s totally fallen off.....because that`s just plain ugly condition
(a camera like that is out there someplace and I would put some $$$ into it for a restoration, because I would`nt mind having a freshly painted and restored CLA`d Leica IIIC K to work with.....)

[135ti]

Does yours have "W.H." engraved on it?
Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and came across via Google as I was searching for exactly the term above. I inherited a Leica IIIc and I am currently in search of information about it. Comments and Feedback welcome, regards from Germany :)

[LeicaTom]

Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and came across via Google as I was searching for exactly the term above. I inherited a Leica IIIc and I am currently in search of information about it. Comments and Feedback welcome, regards from Germany :)

Hallo Hallo!

aaahhhh nochmals schone schone!

That`s a very rare Wermacht "Kugellager" Leica IIIC K Grey Paint 1943/44 issue, please go read my thread, I have one of it`s cousins (a 1945 US Army issued one)

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45057

I`m also sending you a private message

Grusse aus Florida

Tom

[Dralowid]

Attached Thumbnailshttp://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49001&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1188372308 (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49001&d=1188372308) http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49002&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1188372321 (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49002&d=1188372321) http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49003&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1188372332 (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49003&d=1188372332)
Methinks this one will get a few hearts 'a flutter...!

Michael

[135ti]

I just had the chance to get some new photos of the "grey beauty".

@LeicaTom: thanks for the great information you provided to me about the IIIcK's. I learned a lot the last days :)

[jolefler]

49485 My first LTM as a user!

[Dean C Williams]

My IIf RD

http://www.deansphotographica.com/picdump/leicaiif/leather/lensout.jpg

[Harry Lime]

I just had the chance to get some new photos of the "grey beauty".

@LeicaTom: thanks for the great information you provided to me about the IIIcK's. I learned a lot the last days :)


Tolle Kamera. Pass auf damit. Das Ding ist ein Haufen Geld wert.


Alles Gute,

Harry Lime

PS:

Here is the contact information for James L. Lager of the Leica Historical Society of America. He is probabaly the foremost authority on these cameras. Perhaps you can send him the serial number and he will have more information.

James L. Lager
Leica Researcher and Historian
E-mail: jlager@bellatlantic.net
Phone: 201-768-5426

[LeicaTom]

Well, I just found and bought a "project" Leica IIIC

a perfect candidate for a everyday USER

http://cgi.ebay.com/LEICA-IIIC-35MM-RANGEFINDER-CAMERA-BODY-397437-NR_W0QQitemZ260157177207QQihZ016QQcategoryZ30030QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

A very very late "Half Race" stepper rewind camera #3974xx from the
February 13th, 1946 Leitz factory order
(My other "Half Race" IIIC is also from that same day`s order)

I`m having second thought`s about having this camera painted, it`s still on it`s way in the mail, if the chrome`s really really nice, I`m going to LEAVE it alone and just have it recovered and new curtains and a full CLA.....

I`ll let everyone know what I decide when I receive it from the mail

Tom

[DrLeoB]

Have finally settled down and am working with this combo for my LTM shooter....

IIIc is a 1944-45 vintage (like me...:rolleyes:)

[LeicaTom]

Have finally settled down and am working with this combo for my LTM shooter....

IIIc is a 1944-45 vintage (like me...:rolleyes:)

Very nice "Stepped Rewind" Leo :D
*The Nokton is sexy!*

Happy Shooting!

Tom

[LeicaTom]

My IIf RD

http://www.deansphotographica.com/picdump/leicaiif/leather/lensout.jpg

Nice camera Dean :)

I`ve always been a fan of Leica IIF`s - I always called it the "Ladies" Leica while it doesn`t have slow speeds, now that would be chauvinistic now would`nt be?
(well makes a great prop for the ladies to hold in one of my pinup shoots)
I like the round patch of vulcanite on the front

The IIF is a bit of a "sleeper" in the LTM world, great little cameras they are!

I just picked up a very clean matching numbers IIFBD from the midwest with a f3.5 Elmar and case, I`ll post photos soon :)

Happy Shooting with your LTM

Tom

[Dean C Williams]

Nice camera Dean :)

I`ve always been a fan of Leica IIF`s - I always called it the "Ladies" Leica while it doesn`t have slow speeds, now that would be chauvinistic now would`nt be?
(well makes a great prop for the ladies to hold in one of my pinup shoots)
I like the round patch of vulcanite on the front

The IIF is a bit of a "sleeper" in the LTM world, great little cameras they are!

I just picked up a very clean matching numbers IIFBD from the midwest with a f3.5 Elmar and case, I`ll post photos soon :)

Happy Shooting with your LTM

Tom
Thanks Tom. I picked it up about a month ago as a non-op from KEH. The opening curtain was sitting at a diagonal, so I new I'd be putting curtains and ribbons in it. After I finished the curtain job and CLA, I thought it would be nice to have the finish spiffed up too, so got a kit from cameraleather.
It's a nice little rig, and very quiet.
"Ladies Leica"... That's funny. Wonder how I'd look in a size 8... or size 28 would be more like it. :p

Good Light!

[LeicaTom]

Thanks Tom. I picked it up about a month ago as a non-op from KEH. The opening curtain was sitting at a diagonal, so I new I'd be putting curtains and ribbons in it. After I finished the curtain job and CLA, I thought it would be nice to have the finish spiffed up too, so got a kit from cameraleather.
It's a nice little rig, and very quiet.
"Ladies Leica"... That's funny. Wonder how I'd look in a size 8... or size 28 would be more like it. :p

Good Light!

oHHH that`s been recovered?

Nice job!

I`m going to use the Aki-Asahi covering on my "Black Paint" project IIIC
Closest thing I can find to the original covering - What I heard is Leitz ran out of their older style covering in the early 70`s

Tom

[RHaroldP]

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49816&stc=1&d=1189957532
1946 IIIc with VC 50mm Color-Skopar. The chrome finish is incredibly thin.

[135ti]

Tolle Kamera. Pass auf damit. Das Ding ist ein Haufen Geld wert.


Alles Gute,

Harry Lime

PS:

Here is the contact information for James L. Lager of the Leica Historical Society of America. He is probabaly the foremost authority on these cameras. Perhaps you can send him the serial number and he will have more information.

James L. Lager
Leica Researcher and Historian
E-mail: jlager@bellatlantic.net
Phone: 201-768-5426 I contacted James Lager two weeks ago and we had a nice email conversation. He really is a nice guy and was very interested in the details of my camera. After checking his archive, he told me that the camera has matching numbers, body and lens were both delivered to the Wehrmacht in Berlin at the same day back in 1944 and are together since then!

I decided to sell the camera, she's up for auction on Nov. 10th in Frankfurt Germany. The catalogue will be online around Oct. 10th: http://www.photographica-auctionen.de/eng/index.asp

[Keith]

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49816&stc=1&d=1189957532
1946 IIIc with VC 50mm Color-Skopar. The chrome finish is incredibly thin.

That lens looks great on that camera ... it really suits it! :)

[Keith]

This camera doesn't get a lot of use ... sometimes just looking at it is enough for me ... I have other screwmounts I can bash around! :p

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2415.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2419.jpg

[jfserejo]

Hello all and congratulations for the wonderful cameras that have been showed in here. I'm really excited with my 1st leica experience - IIf w/ Elmar f=5 1:3.5 collapsible lens:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9148/9180132awn2.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2112/9180135ala3.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7569/9180138aky1.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4779/9180140aqo4.jpg

Best regards all,
Joao

[Robert Price]

This camera doesn't get a lot of use ... sometimes just looking at it is enough for me ... I have other screwmounts I can bash around! :p

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2415.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2419.jpg

STUNNING! JUST STUNNING!!!

[LeicaTom]

Hello all and congratulations for the wonderful cameras that have been showed in here. I'm really excited with my 1st leica experience - IIf w/ Elmar f=5 1:3.5 collapsible lens:



Best regards all,
Joao

Beautiful IIF RD Looks like new!

I`ve always liked IIF`s :D

Tom

[jfserejo]

:) ... It really looks out of the box!
Now I have to find a half case to take her out every day! :)

[raid]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/standardleica.jpg


Leica Standard with Canon 28mm/3.5 and the Finder!

[landsknechte]

What sort of viewfinder is that?

[raid]

What sort of viewfinder is that?

It is meant for 4x5 cameras.

[photobizzz]

I cant see the photo of the VF, what kind is it? I just got a TOC universal viewfinder in the mail today. 28-135 and bright!

[Ken Ford]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t261/raidamin/standardleica.jpg


Leica Standard with Canon 28mm/3.5 and the Finder from HELL!

Fixed it for you!

[photobizzz]

Thanks for trying but the military network restrictions will only let me see photos if they are embedded in the post, not linked.

[photobizzz]

Aint she purty...

[raid]

Thanks for trying but the military network restrictions will only let me see photos if they are embedded in the post, not linked.


Like this?

[photobizzz]

Yes I can see it! That finder is LARGE! I thought mine was a little unwieldy.

[raid]

What is your finder? It looks larger than a regular finder.

[photobizzz]

It it a TOC universal viewfinder (similar to Nikon Varifocal)
It covers 28,35,50,73,90,105,135. It was made in Japan and was sold as an alternative to the Nikon/Nippon external finder. I love it because it is so bright, even at 135. It also has a parralax correction dial. I got it for $135. The Nikon/TEWE finders alwasys go for too much.

[raid]

It it a TOC universal viewfinder (similar to Nikon Varifocal)
It covers 28,35,50,73,90,105,135. It was made in Japan and was sold as an alternative to the Nikon/Nippon external finder. I love it because it is so bright, even at 135. It also has a parralax correction dial. I got it for $135. The Nikon/TEWE finders alwasys go for too much.


The extra brightness is definitely an important factor.

I have one TEWE finder [35mm-135mm], but I did not know that it is costly to get. My FSU multiple finder [28mm-135mm] has been my finder with the most use lately. It looks cool too.

Nikon finders are too expensive for me.

[LeicaTom]

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/HRfilter.jpeg


Here`s my 1946 "Half Race" Leica IIIC #3972xx all dressed up and ready to go, just back from it`s CLA and fitted with it`s original f3.5 50mm Elmar and a rare
Up/Oben filter *the word "Oben" is marked on the filter ring*
(Oben is German for up - in this case meaning "this side up" when the lens is focused, then the filter is adjusted so that the yellow filter half is topside and also straight and level) this is a graduated yellow sky filter for snow scenes etc.
(there`s no snow in Florida, but I have to try this out at the beach really early in the morning)

I picked up this filter and a complete set of black ring A36 Elmar filters really reasonable on evilbay for $56
(for 6 filters) it`s really kool that I have a bunch of filters for the Elmar, now it`s time to try them all out!* ;)

Also the trusty FISON shade is in place, I`ll be shooting with her again sometime tomorrow or this weekend, depending on which day stays rain free and as the models get time to come over :D

I`m going to do some various lens tests with a newly acquired crystal clear Canon f1.5 50mm a beautiful "wartime" uncoated f2.0 50mm Summitar and this trusty Elmar, in color and black and white depending on the weather and the mood I`m in, I`ll post some results soon

Enjoy!

Tom

PS: Her Younger Brother #3974xx is still being disected and recorded by the Doctor for use in explaning the whole
"Half Race" bearing construction which will be featured in our future planned book, as soon as the photos are finished he`s coming back with a repaired curtain full CLA and new covering - stay tuned

[Philippe D.]

Hello All,
this is my first post here, so let me please introduce one of my favorite
Leica IIIf with his SBLOO viewfinder
and the Summaron 3.5 you can't see :cool:

51104

Cheers, Philippe

[Dralowid]

It's my 'user', bought in 1982 and active since.

Just back from a CLA and re-finishing by Peter at CRR. Sweet as a nut.

All it needs now is a few more years of good usage.

Apologies for the pictures which do not do Peter's work justice. I wanted to take some photos quickly while the camera is still unmarked and my son has made off with tripod and lights.

Michael

51244

51245

[Vince Lupo]

It looked so lovely sitting on the back seat of my car, I just had to take a shot of it!

Leica III (#166783) that I've had for 20 years, VIOOH finder, a Haber & Fink Turret, 90mm f/4 Elmar, 50mm f/2 Summar, and 35mm f/4.5 Steinheil.

Who needs only one male compensation device when you can have three?

[mike goldberg]

Well, it's here... my IIIf bought from an RFF member several months ago, and hand-carried to me from Michigan to Jerusalem, by a dear friend. It is so beautiful, I've got to more pix of it to do it justice. Very clean and in pristine condition, the IIIf deserves to be used. That's a J8 on it in the Thumbnail, collimated to the Leica standard.

[bob cole]

Ok, here's a Leica IIIF with a Leicavit, a 3.5cm/f3.5 Elmar with a 21mm screw-in skylight filter and a self-timer gadget...

Anyone want to sell a Leica case [for the Leicavit] with the cut-out on the bottom?

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Hi Vince, I especially like the 'Mickey Mouse' lens (the Steinheil) which I have also in my collection. Do you have any background info on that lens (e.g. when was it made and for what camera)?
thanks
Ron

[HuubL]

Newly arrived Summitar on my IIIf.
Just found out that the classic 12571 hood fits this set so much better than the "official" folding box of the Summitar.

[photobizzz]

That is one nice looking IIIf, looks mint!

[Pascal from France]

Here is my IIIc with a Summitar 50/2. It comes with the 5cm finder which is so great!
Bonjour de France

Pascal

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Here is my IIIc with a Summitar 50/2. It comes with the 5cm finder which is so great!
Bonjour de France

Pascal

Hi Pascal,

This one looks real nice... I can imagine it looks even better in a picture of 'normal size' ...

thanks
greetz from PayBas

[Philippe D.]

This is my
Leica IIIf black dials from 1952 - Leicavit - Canon Serenar 28mm f/3.5 - B+W filter - Viewer 28mm Pasoptic

52084

[Vince Lupo]

Hey Ron -- sorry for not having noticed your question sooner. That Steinheil lens on the Haber&Fink turret has been in my accumulation for about 20 years. I think I bought it at a camera show in Toronto for about $ 50.00 -- I'd suspect that it's late 1940's or early 1950's, judging by the finish of the lens, and its similarity to other Steinheil lenses I have for Exakta. It's a Leica screwmount, so I suppose it was meant for a Leica. I know that Steinheil made a camera called a Casca, but I don't think it had a Leica screwmount. Decent second tier lenses that aren't expensive (the ones for my Exaktas are awesome!), and the quality that comes out of this one is pretty good, though it's only a f/4.5 in speed. Plus, this is the only wide lens that I have which will work on the turret contraption.

My regards to the Netherlands....I hope to be living there soon!

[Ron (Netherlands)]

Hey Ron -- sorry for not having noticed your question sooner. That Steinheil lens on the Haber&Fink turret has been in my accumulation for about 20 years. I think I bought it at a camera show in Toronto for about $ 50.00 -- I'd suspect that it's late 1940's or early 1950's, judging by the finish of the lens, and its similarity to other Steinheil lenses I have for Exakta. It's a Leica screwmount, so I suppose it was meant for a Leica. I know that Steinheil made a camera called a Casca, but I don't think it had a Leica screwmount. Decent second tier lenses that aren't expensive (the ones for my Exaktas are awesome!), and the quality that comes out of this one is pretty good, though it's only a f/4.5 in speed. Plus, this is the only wide lens that I have which will work on the turret contraption.

My regards to the Netherlands....I hope to be living there soon!

He Vince, Thanks for youre responce. I only have seen this lens once, offered on *bay I believe by Arsenal. They had priced the lens at about Euro 400 so way to high. There is however a difference to our lenses: it had the inscription "Tower". If you look to Tower camera´s of the early fifties, they sometimes seem to be offered with Steinheil lenses: perhaps Steinheil had a deal with Sears who produced the Tower cameras.
Hope you will have a nice stay in the Netherlands: anyway let me know if you're going to live in or near The Hague, in that case we could easily meet some time.

[Vince Lupo]

Our hope is to be living in Dordrecht by mid 2009 (though there is that small matter of the job thing). I'm hoping to build my freelance photography business in the Netherlands, but am trying to assess the situation over there before dropping all that I've built over here and starting all over again in a new country. The other alternative would be a job with a company which would encompass my three areas of interest (Food, People, Architectural Interiors/Exteriors). Maybe a job with Royal Ahold????


As far as the lens goes, I'll check that out regarding Tower -- this is only one of a few non-Leitz lenses that I have for my screwmount Leica's.

I have a few Netherlands shots in my Critique Forum thread if you're intrested....

Thanks!

[LeicaTom]

Just received this the other day........

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/LeicaIIFBD.jpeg

An amazing condition 1951 Leica IIFBD all matching numbers, original f3.5 50mm Elmar with cap and in Meters (it`s a German camera 3/8 thread bottom) and original case

I`m going to send it off to have a full CLA brand new curtains and rangefinder, then it will be almost like new :D

Tom

[dingowarlord]

Just received this the other day........

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/LeicaIIFBD.jpeg

An amazing condition 1951 Leica IIFBD all matching numbers, original f3.5 50mm Elmar with cap and in Meters (it`s a German camera 3/8 thread bottom) and original case

I`m going to send it off to have a full CLA brand new curtains and rangefinder, then it will be almost like new :D

Tom

Hi Tom, For lack of a better word, "Holy ****" what a great pickup. Please post some images taken with this beauty.
By the way where do you get this from?

[sfb_dot_com]

Here's my recently acquired III, nice and tidy, complete with Summar. All seems to work well, although preliminary results tend to show plenty of 'glow' (ie flare) Still for a camera dating from 1934 it's pretty sharp. And it still feels like a precision tool, crafted rather than constructed. It's with me all the time, and I'm finding the focussing good, better than a SLR under some circumstances. I know it's not the greatest picture ever, but hey I did use a DSLR for that!

Next purchase is a 35mm lens...

Andy

[LeicaTom]

Hi Tom, For lack of a better word, "Holy ****" what a great pickup. Please post some images taken with this beauty.
By the way where do you get this from?

To make a long story short, it came from a private sale, from another Photographer who had it given to him 35 years ago from his Mother In Law, it had been bought at a Church benefit's auction in the 1960`s.......yes and IIFBD is quite uncommon *the "sleeper" Leica* collectable with only 8,400 ever made in 1951 and 52 only

.....needless to say, it`s hardly ever been used, but and here comes the but, the curtains and viewfinder are bad, but nothing that Youxin Ye can`t fix and fix he will be doing soon, then it will be almost like new

:)

Tom

PS: It has the original case, 50 Elmar with front cap and flash unit, I just picked up a era correct FISON shade for it on evilbay as well, very happy!!!!

[Big Hairy Bee]

My first RF, a IIIF with a 50mm Summitar and a few goodies. an A and A strap is in the mail. Love it!

[LeicaTom]

After a 4 month search I finally found a f1.4 Nikkor SC 50mm lens that`s literally Flawless Mint/Mint Minus condition with BOTH caps and the rare full chrome hood, it just arrived here from NY a few hours ago - (the previous owner also had the lens CLA`d by Sherry K, so it`s is as new) -
lens was from a private sale

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/NikkorvsCanon.Jpeg

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/NikkorvsCanon2.Jpeg

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/NikkorvsCanon3.Jpeg

Here`s a couple of shots with the lens in it`s glory on my Non K stamped 1945 "Kugellager" ball bearing shutter Leica IIIC - also in the photo is a Canon f1.5 50mm which will be used on this camera for yet another TEST featuring these two legendary lenses, which I will shoot in some PinUp styles with the next available model, I will post a new thread "Canon vs Nikkor" with photos in the LTM copies section soon!

Enjoy!

Tom

[dingowarlord]

That is an awesome looking lens Tom. I must tell you, I have 2 M6's and I'm craving a LTM. Their Cool factor is of the charts. My problem would be which should I go for a ii a 111f or g. let me stop before I lose it.

Enjoy it Tom, Show us some Picks.

[LeicaTom]

That is an awesome looking lens Tom. I must tell you, I have 2 M6's and I'm craving a LTM. Their Cool factor is of the charts. My problem would be which should I go for a ii a 111f or g. let me stop before I lose it.

Enjoy it Tom, Show us some Picks.

Yes, I can`t wait to work with the Nikkor and the Canon in a shootout, it`s going to be great fun! :)

Tom

[Mudman]

Figured I'd post my new camera, Leica III from 1939 with the standard Elmar collapsable lens. Cam complete with the standard never ready case, lens hood and cap and I even found an old self timer kicking around that works with it.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53129&d=1197490414

[Vince Lupo]

Here's a different level of weirdness.....Leica Standard C with a Hugo Meyer Megoflex made for the Standard.
The body has an old leather patch job at one end, but the outfit works well and is one way to transform a Leica into a focusing TLR.

[colyn]

My IIIf RD with selftimer and 21mm f/4 Color-Skopar lens and matching finder. :cool:

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[Keith]

Every now and and then I have to slip my 1930 1a into this thread ... to remind myself how much I love it! :D

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/wheelie52/RFF%20Storage/IMG_2845.jpg

[HuubL]

Keith, that's unreal! The thing shines as if it was made yesterday. Is that the matching Elmar?

[Limpovitj]

Keith, that's unreal! The thing shines as if it was made yesterday. Is that the matching Elmar?

Since the Ia is a fixed-lens camera, I'd suppose it matching, yes... ;-)

[Keith]

Keith, that's unreal! The thing shines as if it was made yesterday. Is that the matching Elmar?


Everything is original ... camera, the fixed 50mm Elmar, separate rangefinder and brass film cassettes with their own container and the leather case which holds it all. It's the most beautiful tactile thing I own! :)

[HuubL]

Since the Ia is a fixed-lens camera, I'd suppose it matching, yes... ;-)

Oopsydoopsy... :o

But I see a screw, so this must be a screw-mount...

[john neal]

IIRC, all Leica lenses were removable - they were only calibrated for one body though. The "ultimate" set was the body, plus 3 lenses RF, hood, etc, etc in a leather carry case. the lenses would be matched to the one body - often with the serial of the body (or, latterly, the last 3 digits) engraved on the lenses.

Super piece of kit Keith - makes me wish I had one to go with my II and Standard.

[lasamo]

Barnack III(Blk)+Hektor 28mm F6.3

[Telewatt]

This is my new one...

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regards,
Jan

[350D_user]

A rather pleasant setup... finally...
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A trusty prewar Leica Standard, an uncoated Elmar 3.5cm, and a chrome VIDOM. :)

[uwe zankl]

Hello all

My name is Uwe Zankl, I live in Germany and I recently started to become very interested in 1930s-40s photography and filming, mainly because of my hobby, WWII re-enacting. Getting older now I thought that portraying a GI I can not do for ever and so I thought about first of all building a second impression that in a few years can become my primary...
I have always been attracked especially to the color footage and photos that were taken in those days, military or civilian.
So before Christmas, on a trip to Bastogne, I decided to kick off the new impression. When I got home I did a bit of shopping and so far ended up with two Leicas and four Bell&Howell movie cameras. ( Two are 4 sale again)
Here are the pictures of the Leicas:

IIIa 1936 with engraved name of a WWII US soldier and his service number, all working fine but may need CLA...don't know yet. Curtains are in super good shape
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/P1016032.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/P1016033.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/P1016034.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/P1016036.jpg

III from 1933 with a 1936 Summar (that is now on the IIIa since it fits better there)
all working but shutter speeds seem a bit slow and start to hang when I take it outside into sub 0 tempratures...needs CLA. Curtains are in super good shape
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/14012008028.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/14012008030.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/14012008032.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y187/anj4de/14012008033.jpg

The thing about those beauties is that once you have one the fingers start iching to klick and buy more...let's see where that takes me.

cheers
Uwe

[Mr_Flibble]

Hey Uwe,

Don't I know it. I'm currently swimming in Elmar en Hektor lenses and all kinds of Leica accessoiries. I need to have a case built for it all ;)

I didn't dare to take my IIIa with me to Bastogne this december because of the cold. That PH-324 I showed you ate up a roll of film, unfortunately. Luckily my Pseudo-Contax still worked well enough.

Looks like you have two wonderful cameras there.


Regards,
Rick, 165th SC, Detach-02 ;)

[uwe zankl]

Hi Rick

Small world...

The IIIa I have is fine for taking pictures and will be used for that in nice weather only. The black III is currently still in rough condition even though the curtains look new! Anyway, as long as it is like this it will serve as all weather decoration. The lens is a bit scratched so just fine for what we do out there, I have a very nice Summitar in the mail for serious picture taking...

cheers
Uwe

[Solinar]

That Leica II with the dinged has true character.

May I present a IIIf with fewer rough edges.

http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~yue/misc/LeicaIIIf.jpg

[Solinar]

This one is slightly rougher around it edges.

http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~yue/misc/LeicaIIIg.jpg

[MikeL]

The thing about those beauties is that once you have one the fingers start iching to klick and buy more...let's see where that takes me.


It's not good. If I hadn't already used one, I wouldn't have answered a recent local ad. My wife asked me how many camera bodies I have last night, so one of them will likely go. No way I'd ever sell Steampunk (on the right) though, it's in my bag everyday.:)

1930 Standard converted to III with coated Summar, 1930 Standard with Hektor, and III with coated Summar and SCNOO.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=54784&d=1201045124

[landsknechte]

Here's what I was able to dig up on the name engraved on the camera:

Edward J Tarutis
U.S. Army
Born 8/29/07 in Connecticut
Enlisted 6/24/42 in Hartford, CT
Single
White
Civilian Job = Postal Clerk
Died 8/86 in Connecticut.

Nice find Uwe!

--Chris
(...who has alternate incarnations as a U.S. 3rd Infantry Division Signal Corps photographer and a half-frozen Heer Grenadier)

[uwe zankl]

Hi Chris

Wow...that something! Do you know if his service record could be pulled? I would like to know where Mr. Tarutis served in WWII. He must have been rather proud to serve since he engraved his camera!

thanks a lot
Uwe

[landsknechte]

Hi Chris

Wow...that something! Do you know if his service record could be pulled? I would like to know where Mr. Tarutis served in WWII. He must have been rather proud to serve since he engraved his camera!

thanks a lot
Uwe

It's possible. A lot of records were lost in a huge fire in 1973, and so it's uncertain what remains. I submitted a records request, and I'll let you know what I hear back from them.

I suspect he carried the camera when he was in the military, and had it marked to identify it. That same number would have been on his dog tags, and would have been used in an abbreviated fashion (T-1507) to mark his uniforms and equipment.

[Mr_Flibble]

Chris, I agree with you that it was probably a camera for military purposes, either he was an Embedded photographer or a Signal Corps man.

Jorge Lewinski mentions that as many as half of the GIs in Europe carried a camera towards the end of World War II. I bet many of those cameras were the 'spoils of war'. I'm sure our GI had his engraved to add some protection against grubby fingers.

In the Ardennes Capa was nearly killed by suspicious GIs over his Contax and Rolleiflex cameras because they thought he was a spy. The GIs were rather disappointed when they found his official documents signed by Ike. :D

[uwe zankl]

Hi again

I would suggest to ask the Admin to move the posts about war correspondants into a separate thread where we can carry on discussing it...since I think this one is only to show cameras. What do you think?

thanks
Uwe

[cosmonaut]

I haven't had time for about two rolls, but so far so good.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/cosmonaut1959/leicaiiia.jpg

[BillP]

My newly CLA'd IID.

I took it out for a walk yesterday in the winter sunshine.

I used it with one lens - a 50mm f2.5 Color Skopar. This lens has come in for some bad press when it was first released for lack of contrast and resolution of fine detail so I was interested to see how it would perform. It makes a good match to the IID. I have "permanently" fitted it with a yellow filter - 400CN is the only "food" I intend to give my IID.

So.

Film loading: As easy (or as hard) as any Barnack. No real problems. Following the CLA, everything is nice and precise.

Handling: Very slick. The Skopar fits well, in every sense of the word. It makes for a balanced and neat package. It shows slightly in the viewfinder, but that is not a problem. It has a focussing tab, that is at the 6 o'clock position at 5 ft. Focussing is smooth, and with the rangefinder, nice and positive.

Range/Viewfinder: Now here is the funny thing. I think I find it slightly EASIER to use than my IIIc. The two windows are further apart, it is true, but that makes them more "definite" in use. The rangefinder is quite bright, and surprisingly easy to focus, even in dim light. The viewfinder is 50mm. of course, and pretty well WYSIWYG in use.

Results: I was pleased with both the accuracy of the shutter and the results from the lens. I found that I was overexposing slightly; overcompensating for the filter. I won't bother to compensate in future - I prefer my negs a little denser.

Verdict: A neat and compact little street-shooter. I won't be "upgrading" to an M8 just yet - I am having far too much fun...!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2232808529_706f7a20d0_o.jpg

Regards,

Bill

[Gerbil62]

Just got this baby today spent 45 minutes winding and everything good as she has not been used for 20 years one of those right time and place things . looking forward to some good times

[Paul C. Perkins, MD]

Gerbil 62wrote:
"Just got this baby today spent 45 minutes winding and everything good as she has not been used for 20 years one of those right time and place things . looking forward to some good times"

Dang! It looks just like mine. You will LOVE your IIIc.
Congratulations!

Paul

[Paul C. Perkins, MD]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6936356

Picture of my IIIc. How does one post an image here? I seem to recall doing it in the past without any difficulty. Now I can't do it.

Paul

[ww2photog]

IIIB owned by a German Officer, bought it off the vet that captured him.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q92/RetroRob1965/LeicaIIIb.jpg

[peterm1]

My 111a sitting next to its younger brother.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o251/peterm1_bucket/_1000801_filtereda.jpg

[Sonnar2]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2232808529_706f7a20d0_o.jpg

A small lens fits great to a Leica III. Nice combo! Nice to see Skopar screws up in the 12h position.

[Steve B.]

Here's a picture of my fun looking Ic - I like it's off beat gawkiness, compared to it's svelte cousins - -

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John Maddox is putting in new shutter curtains and I can't wait to play with it!

- Steve Busch

[Frank Petronio]

Kind of classic - generic - bulletproof... Not too expensive either ;-)

I use a Domke strap and a Nikon soft release with it. I did recover it with the cheapest cameraleather.com covering, which is good stuff.

[cinedux]

Everything still works,touch wood!:rolleyes:

[ray*j*gun]

And what a lens!!

Ray

[Philippe D.]

This is a Leica IIIf Black Dial , with a SOOKY near-focusing device mounted with a Summar made 1935.

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[rtphotos]

My new IIf and Summitar, both finally back from their overhaul. The lens is sporting a SNHOO filter adapter, E39 yellow filter, and generic 39mm screw-in hood. Attached to the body is a SBOOI external viewfinder.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/2409930096_c7568dc380_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/36exposures/2409930096/)

Ok, enuff photographing of my equipment - I gotta go out and shoot with them now! :D

rt :)

[Philippe D.]

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Leica IIIf bd with Leicavit, SBOOI viewfinder, OKARO rangefinder filter, Summarit 5cm f/1.5 lens and a Walz shade.

[Limpovitj]

... complete with the extremely rare Carl Zeiss Jena 5cm f/1.4 Biotar in LTM (1931)

I usually don't follow these threads, trying hard to concentrate on picture taking rather than cameras, but, in a word: wow. That's one rare lens, all right.
You don't happen to have any pictures taken with it?

[kshapero]

I just finished rummaging thru some guy's camera store while visiting friends in Virginia. I found a Leica IIIa and Summar lens with a ton of accessories. Can anybody tell me where I can get help on how to use it? The body looks like it has never been used. Oh, I paid $100 for the lot.

Also where can I get it CLA'd?

[xayraa33]

I just finished rummaging thru some guy's camera store while visiting friends in Virginia. I found a Leica IIIa and Summar lens with a ton of accessories. Can anybody tell me where I can get help on how to use it? The body looks like it has never been used. Oh, I paid $100 for the lot.

Also where can I get it CLA'd?

It looks like you got a great buy.
for a CLA you can send it to DAG or the guy Raid uses.
our Tom A. has a cool video on loading these Barnacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heMk-4hde9E

[jfserejo]

Just finish a test roll in my new IIIf! I really love this camera :)

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8347/rffimg001di4.jpg

Here's with the Color-Skopar 2.5/50:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/305/rffimg002wa1.jpg

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/821/rffimg003bm7.jpg

Regards,
Joao

[kshapero]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2453063614_2674f00099.jpg?v=0Here is my IIIa with a CV 21mm lens and VF.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3223/2452232977_d45bb3d49f.jpg?v=0

[Paul C. Perkins, MD]

My Leica IIIc with 50mm F:2.0 Summitar. . . Simple - elegant - functional

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/6936356-md.jpg

[Brian Sweeney]

The new additions to the growing Barnack family.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58966&stc=1&d=1209766239

[LeicaTom]

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/IIICELMAR35.jpeg

A 1945 "Crossover" Stepped Rewind Leica IIIC K to IIIFBD conversion with a "wartime" f3.5/35mm Elmar , OKARO contrast filter and ROSOL sportsfinder

This is a fast and fun combo which always raises eyebrows and starts conversations wherever I go ;)

Tom

[john neal]

Tom,

That's superb (drrol). The case looks to be in great condition too. I'm going before i catch another "need" from you ;)

[LeicaTom]

Tom,

That's superb (drrol). The case looks to be in great condition too. I'm going before i catch another "need" from you ;)

John,

This whole kit cost me less then $350 total (nobody wanted the IIIC body because it was a conversion -
silly folks!
- quite possibly one of the last one`s built in 1945 and with the IIIFBD upgrade it made it the best of both worlds and with the mods, it`s like a brand new camera

It works as smoothly as a brand new IIIF and the Elmar was cheap while it had a small ding on the front ring (no big deal) while the "wartime" issued (that one`s a 1941 issue) wide angle lenses are pretty uncommon, so I jumped on that one and the ROSOL came thankfully from a fellow RFFer at a good price, so the kit came together very quickly - The camera has shot great, it just needs some internal cleaning and the rewind knob tightened/replaced, it`s getting a CLA sometime late next week.....


That case is a postwar aftermarket one that I cut the top off of and reinforced the straps with black electrical tape, this camera is a real workhorse, but it still keeps it`s "vintage charm" -
I wanted to paint it Grey or Black, but the body turned out to be way nicer than I thought, so it`s staying "as-is"

I`m buying another Grey paint IIIC K on Saturday, this time a civilian one from 1943
one with the very rare dark red K shutter stamp (see avatar)

More about that camera soon to be posted at the IIIC K thread

Happy Shooting!

Tom

[john neal]

I'm seriously considering comissioning you to find me a really nice IIIc to IIIf conversion if you can find them at that price, in that condition!!

I have been looking closely at my two stepped IIIc bodies - the 392xxx series one (with the K engraved inside the crate) is subtlely different to the 394xxx one. Hard to define precisely, but the shafts are very slightly different, and the more I look, the moe I'm convinced that the 392 is an unmarked K. I missed another 392 series body recently (slightly earlier) - I just couldn't justify another one at the moment, but would make room for a nice conversion, probably by selling the 394.

Just keep me in mind if you find any more ;)

[LeicaTom]

I'm seriously considering comissioning you to find me a really nice IIIc to IIIf conversion if you can find them at that price, in that condition!!

I have been looking closely at my two stepped IIIc bodies - the 392xxx series one (with the K engraved inside the crate) is subtlely different to the 394xxx one. Hard to define precisely, but the shafts are very slightly different, and the more I look, the moe I'm convinced that the 392 is an unmarked K. I missed another 392 series body recently (slightly earlier) - I just couldn't justify another one at the moment, but would make room for a nice conversion, probably by selling the 394.

Just keep me in mind if you find any more ;)

John,

Well, this camera was on the evilbay.....and no one wanted it, I won it for like $190 complete with postage and everything, it`s speeds and shutter is dead on, (but needs a new rewind knob shaft/or a tightening up of it etc. and vulcanite change for full restoration, but it`s my "user" so I really don`t care too mush about the covering at the moment) - it`s with Leo B for complete CLA

WW2 or Postwar "stepped" rewind bodies to IIIFBD are pretty uncommon here, I waited a year to find this one...... you might have better luck finding one in Germany of all places, while so many were sent right back to the factory there for an upgrade

If I see another Stepper IIIC to IIIFBD I`ll let you know, they honestly should`nt be over $300 in top condition, while it seems that the only conversions the collectors want are the black paint cameras, too bad for them that they don`t shoot, while the "wartime" IIIC to IIIFBD are some of the BEST cameras you can use, as for quality and durability

That last #392xxx camera on the evilbay was bid on between Dr Leo and I......

I KNEW it was a IIIC K "non stamp" (it was verified by Jim Lager) but I agreed to leave it go while I had made the deal for the 1943 IIIC K Grey "civilian" (that I will have tomorrow morning) and I decided that (1) K shutter camera is enough for now, I could`nt buy both, so Leo bought that one - That camera actually had a K stamped on the shutter curtain, but the seller didn`t notice, (it was badly faded) so he won a $1,000 camera for $400 - not a bad deal :D and that camera along with the early 1943 "wartime" IIIC K Grey I found were the missing links to our research

I honestly think that the both of us now have enough cameras for the entire research to commence now and the first parts of the book can start to be written......there`s quite a few very very interesting things, that Leo and I have found in the past 8 months, that have NEVER been published before and I think our book, will really put a completely different light on a certain number of cameras, previously ignored by collectors

Tom

PS.PS. John, I`ve suspected for a long time now that, your #392xxx camera is pretty surely a IIIC K
"non stamp" - those hand scribed K`s are 100% a sign (please send me a photo of the K scribe and location when you can via the net) and your camera is near my production numbered camera as well, and I `m pretty sure mine is one as well - it gets X-RAYED next week and also torn down for inspection, this is the ONLY way other than having the Leitz records to tell if the camera is in the series of cameras that were made with the left-over WW2 parts from the IIIC K production

[john neal]

Tom,

That's great news - I would have loved the 392, as it was only a few hundred from my serial and I suspected it would be a K. Glad it went to a good home, though.

I guess the only way to be sure about mine is a full strip-down, but that will have to wait while it is in good shooting order. When a major CLA is called for, I will find out for sure, but I'm fairly confident that it is a non-maked K.

I hope you are going to let some of us into the secrets before the book comes out - they will surely be too darned expensive afterward!

[LeicaTom]

http://www.members.aol.com/Winkermeister/43IIICKGREY1.jpeg

Here`s a quick snapshot from today........more about her over at the IIIC K thread

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=45057&page=5

Tom

[john neal]

Tom,

That very nice - I'm drooling again ;)

One day, maybe....

[LeicaTom]

Tom,

That very nice - I'm drooling again ;)

One day, maybe....

Yep, never say never John.........

I`ve owned now two Grey one`s in the past year or so, after looking for one casually for 10 years
(I`m much more serious now about them and this one was a great find!)

Did you check out the IIIC K thread? .......there`s more about her over there, I have the completely known history from 1945 from the camera, only two owners since then, pretty remarkable in itself

I`m surprised that more people here at RFF haven`t reacted much to this, I guess people are not as interested in these cameras as I`ve thought them to be........ oh well John we both know what we are looking at, thanks so much for stopping on by and saying something :)

Tom

[john neal]

Tom,

I did have a look in the other thread - I wish I could find "dirty" cameras like this!

I think I will have to add one of these to my wants list - much more interesting (to me) than one with the Reichsadler, etc. This was a civilian camera designed to be used to take top-notch pictures, and it will again, just 60+ years later.entally, I now have a black III with a bill of sale from 1937, so it has only ever had 3 owners, including me :)

Incid

I have to admire your (&Leo's) dedication to these models - I'm hooked, but somewhat constrained by a (currently) low disposable income. Having said that, if I got the chance, I would find a way to take it ;)

I'm really looking forward to the book - oh no, I'm drooling at the thought!!!

[LeicaTom]

Tom,

I did have a look in the other thread - I wish I could find "dirty" cameras like this!

I think I will have to add one of these to my wants list - much more interesting (to me) than one with the Reichsadler, etc. This was a civilian camera designed to be used to take top-notch pictures, and it will again, just 60+ years later.entally, I now have a black III with a bill of sale from 1937, so it has only ever had 3 owners, including me :)

Incid

I have to admire your (&Leo's) dedication to these models - I'm hooked, but somewhat constrained by a (currently) low disposable income. Having said that, if I got the chance, I would find a way to take it ;)

I'm really looking forward to the book - oh no, I'm drooling at the thought!!!

Yes, these era cameras are a pocket drainers $$$$ LOL!!!!!! But they are great fun, and there`s nothing like a rare camera as a film prop -

http://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/071106/16/4730db1bb79b4.jpg (http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=4173332)

That`s Daytona area model Miss Candice Marie with Leo B`s amazing
1945 US Army Leica IIIC K Grey - while the camera was on vacation here last year
- and BTW that camera takes AMAZING photos as well :)

I think Leo and I are of but a handful of Photographer`s still using K shutter bearing Leica`s

We should start an elite club for fun - something like the 200mph club for motorcycles, just has to be a photographer who currently works with a IIIC K camera and can show their photos made with it, I`m sure there`s at least 10 or 15 or us still left out there working with them worldwide, or maybe there`s more???

Let`s hear from you if you are one of them!

Cheers and Happy Shooting

Tom

[kshapero]

My IIIa with the Summar:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2094/2513651911_6c8eca4a43.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2085/2513652495_7bbdbaf415.jpg?v=0

[m-bartelt]

A horrid digital picture of my 1954 red dial IIIF. It's currently going a full overhaul, and I have a matching 1954 Elmar red scale 50mm f/3.5 waiting to go on it...

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs27/f/2008/090/b/f/My_Leica_IIIf_by_m_bartelt.jpg

[Mr_Flibble]

A Leica IIIc found it's way to me today, Serial 382xxx.

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/meuk.jpg
(it came together with an Argus C3 (sn 28x,xxx, relatively early) and a WW1 US Army condiment can)

I'll post some better pictures when I've recharged my POS P&S ;)

[Mr_Flibble]

Here you go

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc01.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc03.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc04.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc05.jpg

It looks like it's got some new shutter curtains at some point, and the top plate around the rewind knob has been messed with. A bit of brassing on the rewind lever and the accessory shoe. Apart from that the shutter sounds like it should at all speeds.
Loaded it up with some Spector Color 200 for some test shots.

[malkmata]

I just got this IIF yesterday, with a borrowed collapsible 50mm lens from my Fed-1.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2651842802_5c19957f27.jpg
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/uploads/22108/Leica_IIF.jpg

[DrLeoB]

Recently bought a badly black painted IIIc off of e'bay to use in some experimental finish development ... This picture is of the camera after stripping/peeling the black spraypaint off and refinishing with what I am calling "Hematite" faux finish. This is a chemically bonded/reacted finish which cannot be scratched off with a fingernail. It can be repaired, chemically and can be polished to a high luster with gray overtones.

I was seeking a "Grey" appearing finish with some age highlights. One of my black II's and my black R-D1 with the CV black nokton are in the frame for color contrast.

Waddya think?

[LeicaTom]

Recently bought a badly black painted IIIc off of e'bay to use in some experimental finish development ... This picture is of the camera after stripping/peeling the black spraypaint off and refinishing with what I am calling "Hematite" faux finish. This is a chemically bonded/reacted finish which cannot be scratched off with a fingernail. It can be repaired, chemically and can be polished to a high luster with gray overtones.

I was seeking a "Grey" appearing finish with some age highlights. One of my black II's and my black R-D1 with the CV black nokton are in the frame for color contrast.

Waddya think?

Leo,

Now that`s a reallly GREAT alternative to Grey paint, I really think you are on to something here that`s going to be a hit with people who need to repaint/recover those nasty Leica IIIC "Flat Top" peeler and pitted cameras from the Postwar 1947/49 era

This is a really good idea, I like the patina and the very pretty smooth finish, it`s a "poor mans" Leica IIIC K Grey style :)

Tom

[radiocemetery]

Looks very nice Leo. Appears to be well worth the time and effort.

Steve

[radiocemetery]

Is this a paint product or some kind of oxidizing finish that a gunsmith might use?

[DrLeoB]

The product is a custom mix that actually deposits a very thin metal film which reduces in the presence of the metals of the brass. Not a paint, but rather a chemically reacted film. The layers go on very thin and have to be built up.

As you might expect, preparation of the surface is the time consuming step. The top plate and base plate have to be removed, all hardware taken off of them and then the old, flaky or damaged chrome chemically stripped.

Putting on the finish as part of a CLA is the easiest way to approach it. The finish itself, takes about a day to put on.

[LeicaTom]

:cool:

Just arrived like 2 hours ago in the mail, back from her CLA
"Cicee"
my 1945 Stepped Rewind Platform Leica IIIC K to IIIFBD Conversion, done by Leo B. in California :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/koolgirliestuff/Cicee184.jpg?t=1214595471 (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

Here she is with a 1950 era Nikkor HC Nippon Kogaku Tokyo 50mm f2.0 lens with original Yellow and Green filters - just ready for some Black N' White film!

Leo did a great job, he took the camera apart and verified that the camera was at one time a "kugellager" version that was fully modified to IIIF bearings, parts replaced or repaired everything adjusted now she`s working smooth as glass and ready to quick load with a Canon Knob Rewind
"pop up" spool and better to see through with an original OKARO RF filter

I`ll be shooting some beautiful models this weekend so stay tuned for new work shot with my trusty old friend :D

Tom

[Mr_Flibble]

That's a beauty Tom. I got to get me one of those ORAKO/OKARO filters for my babies. It's like a monocle for a distinguished gentleman.
Can't wait to see what you can do with it!

[john neal]

Tom,

That's superb, I'm still a noticeable shade of green ;)

Sadly, I didn't win the one you put me on to :(

Waiting for the output from this combo with interest!

[350D_user]

Another shot of my 1946/47 Leica IIIc. I'll also try and get a shot of the retailer stamp ("Wallace Heaton Ltd") on its back.

61279

[350D_user]

I finally got a clearish photo the retailer stamp on the rear of the IIIc...

61437

"By appointment to the lat(unclear...)George V
Suppliers of photographic equipment
WALLACE HEATON LTD
LONDON W.1"

Anyone got any ideas on how to preserve what remains of that stamp?

As for "Wallace Heaton Ltd", I found this...

Frederick and Mary had, it is believed, just one child - Wallace Evans Heaton. He was born on 24.10.1877 at the family home, 15 Palmerston Street, Stockton. Mary died some time before 1894 as Frederick re-married in that year Florence Ada Allison. Around the start of the 1900s, we know that Frederick and Florence owned a hotel in Leyburn, Yorkshire called The Golden Lion.
Wallace Evans Heaton was married at St.Peters Church, Preston Park in Brighton on 24.10.1903 to Ethel May Cundy (born on 29.4.1877 at 6 High Street, South Norwood). Wallace Evans Heaton was working in a chemist shop in Brighton at the end of the 1800s, where he became very interested in photography. Presumably because his roots were still up in Yorkshire, he decided to buy a photographic business in Sheffield in 1902, Watsons of High Street.

On 2.9.1904, Wallace Evans Heaton's first child, Marjorie Heaton was born. Their second child, John Wallace Heaton was born on 5.9.1907 whilst the family were living at 36 Meadow Bank Avenue, Sheffield.

In 1919, Wallace Evans Heaton decided to take his photographic business to London and opened a shop at 119 New Bond Street as Wallace Heaton Ltd. The family moved to Lawton, 50 Marryat Road, Wimbledon.

(http://www.heatonfamily.co.uk/)

[Dralowid]

Wallace Heaton were halfway down Bond Street with another great old camera shop, Campkins, almost opposite.

Wallace Heaton's second hand department was down some stairs at the back. They had a wooden case with glass shelves full of used Leicas.

This is where my first Leica came from in 1965. Black because it was a little cheaper than chrome. I have the documents, and the camera still.


The annual Wallace Heaton catalogue was an illustrated tresure trove.
I remember really wanting a Reid III but they were hugely expensive.

Michael

[exaleica]

Hi everybody, I'm new here.

So let's start with the Leica Standard from 1937.

62053

62052



yours OLAF

[Mr_Flibble]

It took a month but it's finally here, pardon the crummy picture
http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/leicaIIIc21.jpg
My second IIIc, with red curtain and no slow-speed dial lock. It's in excellent condition, except that it has a German/English marked base-plate.

Now I'm still waiting on the Elmar lens that was supposed to come with it... :(

[LeicaTom]

It took a month but it's finally here, pardon the crummy picture
http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/leicaIIIc21.jpg
My second IIIc, with red curtain and no slow-speed dial lock. It's in excellent condition, except that it has a German/English marked base-plate.

Now I'm still waiting on the Elmar lens that was supposed to come with it... :(

That`s a nice looking Red Curtain, congrats on that find :)

That AUF/ZU Open/Closed "Dog Ear" baseplate might? be original to the camera, maybe it was a Export camera *Spain/Sweden/Switerland* I`d have to see photos of it - late 1940 to 1942 IIIC`s had that "Dog Ear" ring latch opening base plate, 1943 it was replaced by the round style and then in 1951 it came back slightly redesigned into the IIIF series

Tom

[Mr_Flibble]

I'll post some more detailed pictures later today.

[Mr_Flibble]

As promised:

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc23.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc24.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc25.jpg

[exaleica]

Here we go again,
this is my Leica III from 1932 with WINTU:

62175

62176


OLAF

[LeicaTom]

As promised:

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc23.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc24.jpg

http://www.flibweb.nl/flibweb/cpg143/albums/userpics/10001/LeicaIIIc25.jpg

My observations are that`s a 1950`s American/Export base plate, camera looks like it`s been recovered and the lug rings are new, the curtain looks really nice, but it`s hard to tell if it`s an original just by looking at photos, the original ones have a texture and a sparkle to them, overall great looking example of a surviving Red Curtain camera, Happy Shooting with her! :)

Tom

[Mr_Flibble]

Thanks Tom, I expected as much because of the 1/4" tripod socket. The camera is in a bit more solid condition then my 1942 IIIc, no play on the wind-up stem. She'll get a good work in the next two weeks. :)

[LeicaTom]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v477/koolgirliestuff/LeicaIIICNL020MASTERCENSOREDCROPPED.jpg?t=12182337 08 (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)

Here`s a photo of three items I recently acquired from Evilbay auctions and from KEH Camera

The camera`s a 1940 Leica IIIC NL *Special Import for the Leitz Representative for the Netherlands Odin* (Holland) this camera was verified by Jim Lager to have been delivered in the late summer of 1940 AFTER the occupation of Holland by Nazi troops
*Odin was the main Leitz Importer for Holland from the early 1930`s till the mid 1990`s when they closed*

PLEASE NOTE : If there`s anyone on RFF who KNOWS any history about Odin Leitz Holland, please contact me at my email - winkermeister@aol.com

I call the camera a paperweight, because it needs some attention, it`s missing the bottom light shield, some viewfinder glass (both front and back) along with the RF trim rings, some proper body screws and some shutter parts and curtain fabric - I do plan on RESTORING the camera when I can, if anyone has some spare parts for "wartime" IIIC please let me know - Thx :)

Even though the cameras got some serious patina/issues it`s still presentable and very collectable camera, with 99% original vulcanite and some parts unique to the very first production Leica IIIC`s, it`s like finding a Leica dinosaur that I need to help piece back together again.....

This is one of the first 1,300 Leica IIIC`s ever made - and also note: this camera DOESN`T have a Red Curtain, it was from the original initial production of Leica IIIC`s that had black shutter curtains in 1940

NL Engraved Leica`s are pretty rare, starting off with Leica II`s and III`s, IIIB`s, "wartime" IIIC`s and a handful of IIIF`s, at best there`s only 10 or less of any one camera left, that was originally exported to Holland

The camera case is a rare black "flat nose" case for the 35 and 50mm Elmar lenses and that lens itself was also a very nice find, an original 1940 dated f3.5 Elmar 50mm with the uncommon shiny flat metal lens cap

Not a bad looking little kit here, though it`s been bruised and battered about a bit during it`s life, I bet if this camera coould talk, I`m sure it could teach us a major history lesson since July 1940

Tom

[JohnTF]

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62402&stc=1&d=1218301300

1930 Leica 1


Just shot a test roll of XP2, all the speeds seem to work, bit of "glow" from the lens, but sharp, using scale focusing, though the RF is around somewhere.

Found it at Photo Skoda in Prague.

Lens is very clean, but I noted the reflections seem to make it look a bit grungy.

Will see if I can line up its cousins for a portrait, but this thread seems to have some legs. ;-)

Regards. John

[murrayb53]

Hi Tom,

I don't know if you're aware of this or not but Don Goldberg offers various parts for screwmount Leica's on his website.

Check him out.

Good Luck, it's a very nice piece.

Steve

[JohnTF]

Hi Tom,

I don't know if you're aware of this or not but Don Goldberg offers various parts for screwmount Leica's on his website.

Check him out.

Good Luck, it's a very nice piece.

Steve

My now retired SM repair guy said Don really helped him out from time to time, plus, they had a source for the RF mirrors. I had given him the guts from a IIIf I had picked up and it all got sold with his tools. You guys might know of Al Banones, he is now in his 90's, we worked at the same shop 35 years ago.

Regards, John

[JohnTF]

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62418&stc=1&d=1218317744

1 F?? 1955

[JohnTF]

Leica IIIc, Sharkskin, third owner. 35mm. I think this is my first Leica, a little corrosion on the bottom plate, but not bad. 1950


http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62419&stc=1&d=1218318149