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I bought this a while ago and have hardly had a chance to play with it.
It has a 110mm f4.5 lens, shutter speeds from B, 1sec to 1/250th and is a coupled rangefinder.
Kinda cool but possibly only worth sitting in my camera cabinet.
So...? Are you going to do anything with it?
optikhit
01-24-2006, 22:39
Why not use it? The Moskva 5 is a very nice camera and can produce very good image.
Why not use it? The Moskva 5 is a very nice camera and can produce very good image.
According to Princelle's book, the Moskva-5 has a 10.5cm f/3.5 lens. That narrows the subject camera to being either a model 2 or 4.
Walker
I guess I should try it out eh!
I have about a hundred rolls of 50ASA Velvia in the fridge that owe me nothing (bought as outdated stock but always refrigerated)
That would be a real test for the beast.
I'll take it away with me over the weekend and try to shoot at least 2 rolls with it and then post the results here.
Thanks for the encouragement folks
Why not use it? The Moskva 5 is a very nice camera and can produce very good image.
KoNickon
01-25-2006, 11:23
Make sure when you unfold it that everything is fully deployed, so it's a rigid structure. You want the lens locked into place, perpendicular to the film. And, these cameras tend to work best stopped down a fair amount -- use f8 or smaller for best results. Have fun -- these are pretty decent cameras.
pshinkaw
01-25-2006, 11:43
They're quite good for scenics.
-Paul
rolleistef
01-25-2006, 12:38
yeah, do use it! After all, it's no more than a Russian Super-Ikonta 6X9! Another dream... (the Zeis one, not the moskva!)
Stéphane
P C Headland
01-25-2006, 12:44
Do the decent thing and run a roll or two through it. If you've got a half decent example, you'll be blown away with the first set of slides.
For best results, keep the shutter speed above 1/100 if hand-holding, or stick it on a tripod. I find hand-holding it vertically is easier. Wind the film just before you shoot, i.e. open camera, make sure you want to take the shot, then wind the film - this helps ensure the film is as flat as possible.
Make sure you have folded it out fully (don't let it snap out though). You may like to do a quick check to ensure that no light leaks around the red-window shutters when they're closed, or you may get some fogging. I fixed mine with some 120 backing paper.
I've got a few examples from the M5 on my fotopic gallery (http://pch.fotopic.net)
The only markings are on the lens. The Cyrillic writing thing won't work on my computer but it has a serial #:
No 5420684
and then it has something like NHAYCTAP-23 1:4.5 F=11CM
I just noticed it has a film inside! Better get that processed and see what I've been gifted eh?!
According to Princelle's book, the Moskva-5 has a 10.5cm f/3.5 lens. That narrows the subject camera to being either a model 2 or 4.
Walker
Ahhh, on opening to remove old Efke B&W film, the film tension plate is marked MOCKBA-2 serial # 5417871
I'll dev the film myself.
The only markings are on the lens. The Cyrillic writing thing won't work on my computer but it has a serial #:
No 5420684
and then it has something like NHAYCTAP-23 1:4.5 F=11CM
I just noticed it has a film inside! Better get that processed and see what I've been gifted eh?!
P C Headland
01-25-2006, 13:09
The only markings are on the lens. The Cyrillic writing thing won't work on my computer but it has a serial #:
No 5420684
and then it has something like NHAYCTAP-23 1:4.5 F=11CM
That translates to Industar-23.
Is that attached pic shot on one?
They're quite good for scenics.
-Paul
I'm a packrat and love old cameras. I have lots on display around my house.
However, I will take it away with me this weekend and shoot a few rolls. The lens needs a clean first though.
QUOTE=brians]So...? Are you going to do anything with it?[/QUOTE]
A Kiwi in Amsterdam?
Living or just passing through?
I'm a Southern Man (Invercargill) but haven't lived there since I was a kid. Now in sth Auckland but off to China (again) and then the Bahamas mid year.
Thanks for the tips. I looked at your Mockba shots. Some are a bit dark IMO (subjective opinion) and there seems to be some vignetting but they look good.
Do the decent thing and run a roll or two through it. If you've got a half decent example, you'll be blown away with the first set of slides.
For best results, keep the shutter speed above 1/100 if hand-holding, or stick it on a tripod. I find hand-holding it vertically is easier. Wind the film just before you shoot, i.e. open camera, make sure you want to take the shot, then wind the film - this helps ensure the film is as flat as possible.
Make sure you have folded it out fully (don't let it snap out though). You may like to do a quick check to ensure that no light leaks around the red-window shutters when they're closed, or you may get some fogging. I fixed mine with some 120 backing paper.
I've got a few examples from the M5 on my fotopic gallery (http://pch.fotopic.net)
pshinkaw
01-25-2006, 13:36
Yes, the photo of Honolulu was shot on a Mockba-5. I took a vacation there a few years ago and just carried the Mockba and a Nikon-F. By the time I climbed the trail to the top Diamond Head on a record hot day I was glad that it was so compact.
-Paul
Lokks sharp enough and well exposed: guess you guys have convinced me.
I'm off to Napier this weekend. Napier is a New Zealand City that was destroyed in a big earthquake in the 30's. It was rebuilt in the Art Deco style of the times and even modern buildings have kept that theme.
I guess I'm gonna have a lot of kit with me: the digital Canon, the Mockba, Bessa R, Cambo Wide 5x4, tripod/s, film, lenses, mountainbike.
I'll post some shots when I get back (after I've processed them)
Yes, the photo of Honolulu was shot on a Mockba-5. I took a vacation there a few years ago and just carried the Mockba and a Nikon-F. By the time I climbed the trail to the top Diamond Head on a record hot day I was glad that it was so compact.
-Paul
pshinkaw
01-25-2006, 14:06
I have a Mockba-2 Manual in Russian in a PDF file. If you want it, send me a PM with your e-mail address and I'll send it along.
-Paul
P C Headland
01-26-2006, 06:09
A Kiwi in Amsterdam?
Living or just passing through?
I'm a Southern Man (Invercargill) but haven't lived there since I was a kid. Now in sth Auckland but off to China (again) and then the Bahamas mid year.
We have been living here in Amsterdam for a few years now. However, with the arrival of a small pink thing with arms and legs and an appetite for consuming time and money, we have decided to head back to the land of the long white cloud. So, we sold the house here, and are now counting down the days before the man with the removal truck comes to pack everything up and stick on the boat. Then a bit of travel in Italy and maybe France, then back to NZ.
We're heading back to Wellington, since we still have a house there (good planning on our part given the price increases!!).
We'll be back the beginning of April, just in time for a second winter....
claidemore
01-26-2006, 06:36
You might want to check infinity focus on your Moskva before shooting with it, particularly if you are giving it a throrough cleaning anyways.
I have a Moskva 5, first roll I shot was ok, but not great, best shot was a self portrait where I didn't stand exactly where I had the camera focused (shot wide open btw). Checked infinity and ended up screwing the front lens element all the way in before a distant hydro tower looked sharp.
pangkievrange
01-26-2006, 07:08
You might want to check infinity focus on your Moskva before shooting with it, particularly if you are giving it a throrough cleaning anyways.
I have a Moskva 5, first roll I shot was ok, but not great, best shot was a self portrait where I didn't stand exactly where I had the camera focused (shot wide open btw). Checked infinity and ended up screwing the front lens element all the way in before a distant hydro tower looked sharp.
I adjusted one of moskva -5 at infinity with a distant utility pole. Well, It did not work out. When I checked it with a 2-camera collimation method, it's kind of off. So I had to adjust the front cell element again.
pangkievrange
rolleistef
01-26-2006, 09:18
why not post the pictures on the forum, Desmo? Might be interesting!
Stéphane
I know that feeling: for about 5 years before 2002, my wife and I never saw a Winter then we had a double.
Wifey is off to the Bahamas today and I'll follow in late March.
Congrats on the little pink money eating machine, we have one too but luckily it really belongs to our son and we can return it when we need some sleep. :angel:
So you'll be posting some shots of France/Italy when you get home to the windy city huh?!
We have been living here in Amsterdam for a few years now. However, with the arrival of a small pink thing with arms and legs and an appetite for consuming time and money, we have decided to head back to the land of the long white cloud. So, we sold the house here, and are now counting down the days before the man with the removal truck comes to pack everything up and stick on the boat. Then a bit of travel in Italy and maybe France, then back to NZ.
We're heading back to Wellington, since we still have a house there (good planning on our part given the price increases!!).
We'll be back the beginning of April, just in time for a second winter....
Thanks for that tip, I'll keep it in mind and shoot B&W for the first roll or 2.
I have no idea whether the rangefinder is accurate or not either.
QUOTE=claidemore]You might want to check infinity focus on your Moskva before shooting with it, particularly if you are giving it a throrough cleaning anyways.
I have a Moskva 5, first roll I shot was ok, but not great, best shot was a self portrait where I didn't stand exactly where I had the camera focused (shot wide open btw). Checked infinity and ended up screwing the front lens element all the way in before a distant hydro tower looked sharp.[/QUOTE]
I most certainly will Stéphane.
Watch for them later next week and I'll reference them on this thread
why not post the pictures on the forum, Desmo? Might be interesting!
Stéphane
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