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Kevin
01-20-2006, 02:05
This is a request for change(s).

While all those posts from people on my ignore list are cleanly filtered, I still see threads (in the "Active Threads From The Forums" page, for example) started by people on my ignore list.

It doesn't make much sense to see threads started by people on anybody's ignore list if the very first thread post isn't going to be read, wouldn't you agree?

Is there a property in the User CP that can take care of this? I didn't find one. Can vBulletin Version 3.0.6 be modified to includes such a feature?

Also, a quote that contains the ignored user's name could also be filtered. That would involve parsing each post to see if the string "QUOTE=user_to_ignore" exists. This would slow down page rendering, of course, but then the ignore features would be almost complete and we could start exercising more cencorship control ourselves.

Andy K
01-20-2006, 02:58
I never use the Ignore function. I might miss something useful posted by someone I would otherwise have ignored.

Kevin
01-20-2006, 03:50
Also requested is an additional text field which allows me to describe why I have put that person in the ignore list in the first place. At some future point I might wish to review some of his recent posts and possibly update.

Frank Granovski
01-20-2006, 03:52
I put you on my buddy list. :)

Stephanie Brim
01-20-2006, 04:33
I can understand your frustration (kinda), but all that customization would take quite a bit of time. It would have to be patched into the system (or perhaps even hard-coded into it by modifying the board program itself). Unless someone here is a whiz PHP programmer in addition to a rangefinder buff, I highly doubt it's feasible. And, to tell you the truth, I'm not even clear on what you can and can't modify of the vBulletin system.

Patman
01-20-2006, 04:52
What if someone who you put on a list put you on the list as a reprisal!

Todd.Hanz
01-20-2006, 05:11
I've never used the "Ignore" function, even with the nastiest of characters here. I don't see the point, do they get a message you are ignoring them when you put them on the list?

Todd

FrankS
01-20-2006, 05:33
I use my own internal ignore function.

Flyfisher Tom
01-20-2006, 05:40
I use my own internal ignore function.

Frank is right, the best ignore function is the organ attached to your eyes :)

Besides, I always worry I'll miss something important from someone if they are on my ignore list. People do have the potential to rehabilitate themselves, even the chronically annoying ones.

CZeni
01-20-2006, 05:41
I don't see your post...I'm ignoring you.

:) :) :)

back alley
01-20-2006, 05:57
send a p.m. to jorge.
i have no idea if your request can be satisfied.

George S.
01-20-2006, 06:22
Kevin asked a couple of logical questions and many of you listed your reasons why you do what you do or do not do, with regard to "Ignore" feature, which has nothing to do with his request. If you don't use "Ignore", that's fine, and anything done further along those lines won't affect you, so why hijack his thread?

At the very least, a thread started by an "ignore List" person should be omitted from view, I agree. It should be fairly easy to accomplish, I think.

Kevin
01-20-2006, 06:23
There are trolls, uninformed minds and even a few brainless people who fill the forum with all kinds of verbal trash.

I do not have to view the threads from these named sources but in the absence of filters I will because my mind automatically works that way. Disipline and selective consumption get boring quickly if I have to always think about past experience and what's good for me now.

Permitting myself to view all threads means that I am curious about dialogs, not because I am afraid of missing some important knowledge being shared.

Sometimes I think that certain members are lonely or frustrated and cannot express that feeling directly. Instead they stray off topic, say something unsuitably provocative, make uninformed statements, etc.

When this happens in a non-virtual setting a mindful person will try his best to ignore and, if the problem unbearably persists, give a light rebuttal in a form not unlike what I read here in many threads. But as you know, a rebuttal is sometimes awkward and can change the mood.

I prefer the ignore strategy because it is such a clean and natural solution. A buddy can always tell me later if that insane person is now feeling better. Moreover, it is not for the ignored person's benefit to know that I have created a filter. The configuration is for me and me alone. But if the php-platform would permit me to share my ignore list with my buddies, well heck that would be great too!

back alley
01-20-2006, 06:25
as i said, jorge is the one to direct this request to.

pvdhaar
01-20-2006, 06:31
I never use the ignore feature either. I think it's more hassle than that it's worth. Those you really need to ignore on a long term basis rarely ever make more than a few posts before disappearing from RFF. Most others who start with frowned upon posts just need a short while to adapt to RFFs' culture..

dcsang
01-20-2006, 06:34
Life's too short to get put off by charged electrons flying across a screen.

Cheers
Dave

Andy K
01-20-2006, 06:38
But if the php-platform would permit me to share my ignore list with my buddies, well heck that would be great too!

That would be a very bad idea.

How long would it be before there were little cliques of users springing up all over RFF? There would also be people ignoring other people on hearsay and not because they themselves had been affected. There might even be people carrying out hate campaigns by getting their 'buddies' to ignore other users.

I think such a thing would be massively detrimental to RFF.

dmr
01-20-2006, 06:40
Ignore filters, IMAO, are to be used in a last resort, when somebody is indeed behaving like an equine derriere. Fortunately on this system, those are very few and far between.

I agree that the best filter is the human-based one. :)

JoeFriday
01-20-2006, 06:45
the only person on my ignore list is myself.. I did that so I don't have to be reminded of anything I say

billbarber
01-20-2006, 07:15
I'm not able to see or read any of the posts in this thread

Stephanie Brim
01-20-2006, 07:17
That would be a very bad idea.

How long would it be before there were little cliques of users springing up all over RFF? There would also be people ignoring other people on hearsay and not because they themselves had been affected. There might even be people carrying out hate campaigns by getting their 'buddies' to ignore other users.

I think such a thing would be massively detrimental to RFF.

I agree with you. Leave the cliques to the rest of the web. Here we are good to everyone, not just those in our buddy lists.

FrankS
01-20-2006, 07:39
[QUOTE=George S.]Kevin asked a couple of logical questions and many of you listed your reasons why you do what you do or do not do, with regard to "Ignore" feature, which has nothing to do with his request. If you don't use "Ignore", that's fine, and anything done further along those lines won't affect you, so why hijack his thread?
QUOTE]

I hardly think that suggesting an alternative can be accurately described as "hijacking" a thread.

nwcanonman
01-20-2006, 08:14
My grandmother used to say, "If you ignore people long enough, you become 'ignorant'".
I didn't even know there was an ignore feature here, I don't know anyone on this great list that's 'nasty' or we wouldn't let them stay.

jan normandale
01-20-2006, 08:40
It's kind of curious that when someone asks for help about a rangefinder we all chip in. When someone wants to use the control panel features we get on a soap box. Joe excluded, no one gave an answer. The posts were editorials. Why?

Just asking.

Kevin, you may have to live with the limits of the system. That's my two cents on the topic.

nwcanonman
01-20-2006, 08:46
Jan,
Just speaking for myself; when a person needs help with their camer/lens/film, it seems a 'positive' thing to help affirm an ability to photograph. To find more ways to ignore people seems (JMHO) a negative thing on such a positive list as RFF.

Bertram2
01-20-2006, 08:46
Kevin asked a couple of logical questions and many of you listed your reasons why you do what you do or do not do, with regard to "Ignore" feature, which has nothing to do with his request. If you don't use "Ignore", that's fine, and anything done further along those lines won't affect you, so why hijack his thread?

At the very least, a thread started by an "ignore List" person should be omitted from view, I agree. It should be fairly easy to accomplish, I think.

Best contribution so far ! Thanks, you saved me time. :D
bertram

doubs43
01-20-2006, 08:52
I use my own internal ignore function.

That makes two of us, Frank.

There are threads that I ignore because I have no interest in them but there's no one who has caused me sufficient irritation to be permanently shunned. Even those who hold viewpoints 180 degrees out from my own often contribute something of value.

The world is filled with interesting people and I don't want to miss any of them! :)

Walker

Kevin
01-20-2006, 09:05
A software app like this one evolves over time. Its changes are reflected by new user requirements which are prioritized for a future release. When that new release is deployed, it contains some of the new requirements, as well as a number of bug fixes.

Prioritizing a requirement can be anywhere between "high", and "will not implement."

If a feature exists in a software solution it doesn't mean you have to use it. I would guess that most Windows users tap into about 5% of the features in MS-Word. If you were to take the intersection of the most used features in that program and code them anew, that software would be nothing more than a simple notepad.

For some of us, using the ignore feature is the virtual equivalent to a real-world context where individuals we have identified as bothersome are avoided at all costs. We all do it in real life with a "circle of friends," selective invitations, answering machines, neighborhoods, so why should the value of this feature be discounted here, where the wrong words can cause flame wars and heart attacks?

New features are introduced into a software solution because some users want them and not necessarily all users. You many not ever use the new feature, but that's okay. For others, that feature may make using the software more enjoyable and administering the site less stressful.

If you are small, tight group of people then there is no need for such a thing. But a larger group of people naturally form into cliques and that is not really a bad thing.

Within a clique there is some kind of "leader" who interfaces to other cliques. If everything is cool, the cliques interact.

In a growing virtual community like this one, new members often lose themselves. Ignoring them works like a charm because you are no longer even tempted to respond. They can learn manners that way too. And you save your valuable time and brain waves.

This reminds me of a time I was in a restaurant in Bangkok. A small boy was throwing a fit and his parents stood up and went to the other side of the room. They looked at him a little from the distance but also pretended to ignore him. Within 30 seconds the fit was over and it didn't happen again for the rest of my meal.

In our western society we feed such fits with attention. This technique doesn't solve the real problem, however. Feeding fits with attention can actually make things much worse.

BTW, nobody hijacked this thread. Discussing a software requirement is good thing. It shouldn't be a private message however, as Joe suggests. It should be open for viewing and refinement. That is why this forum section exists.

It is natural that people unfamiliar with software development argue over the validity of a requirement instead of just writing it down and assigning it a priority.

Andy K
01-20-2006, 09:13
The only way an ignore function will ever work as it is supposed to, is if the person you put on your ignore list cannot see your posts. Then they are missing out.
Currently when you put someone on an ignore list the only person who is missing out is yourself, because you are restricting what you can read, and not what the person you dislike can read.

back alley
01-20-2006, 09:15
i didn't suggest that you talk with jorge so that this would be private.
i read most of the threads here but jorge does not and if anything is to be done about your request he needs to know that there is a request in the first place. he is the 'computer guy' and my knowledge of such things is very limited.
i sometimes offer to pass on a request but my assumption is that the 2 of you speak the same (computer) language and that it would be better facilitated by direct contact.

btw, i understand your thinking, i don't agree with it, but i think i understand it.
and really, what good is a moderator who ignores people;)?

nottageek
01-20-2006, 09:30
I'm not able to see or read any of the posts in this thread

What thread? ;)

Kevin
01-20-2006, 10:12
Joe, requirement definitions are not technical in nature, meaning they are not described in terms of how they will be implemented in php or any other language. Requirements usually describe a wanted software feature in terms of its function for the user. It's normally just plain text.

Because it seems that many of the responses are not in favor of such a feature, I will wait to see what more members think before making the specification(s) concise enough to be designed/programmed.

From what I have experienced, sometimes it is necessary to "peek" at an ignored user's post just so that you can see the reason why a thread has evolved the way it has.

At the moment, if you want to peek, you either have to log out and refresh the page or remove the ignored user and return to the page. Perhaps a "1-click" peek would be a nice feature for those users who use the ignore filters?

What about a "1-click" ignore user button. How about rules that say that if one of my buddies starts a thread, then all of the ignored users' posts are visible as well. There are so many possibilities. They just have to be specified by those users who find these features useful.

While I agree that a community can be self-regulating, I have doubts that a very large community can do this well. How does pnet do it? Are there moderators there?

Again, these requirements are just ideas at the moment. They can be debated and refined by the users who find these kinds of features useful.

There are strong personality types here like Frank who can read something distasteful and dispose of the knowledge right away. I wish I could do that but I cannot. Usually I linger on things I wish I had never read/heard/saw. I am sure there is at least one other user here who feels that way too.

FrankS
01-20-2006, 10:17
I'm actually very sensitive.

taffer
01-20-2006, 10:22
How long would it be before there were little cliques of users springing up all over RFF?

!!!

Man that sounds like a question from my almost forgotten Abstract Calculation Models exams!!!

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts ! ;)

Andy K
01-20-2006, 10:39
!!!

Man that sounds like a question from my almost forgotten Abstract Calculation Models exams!!!

From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts ! ;)

:D

Be my guest, plenty of others do! ;)

Ps. It doesn't take a 'strong personality' to ignore (without an ignore button) what someone has written, it just takes maturity.

goo0h
01-20-2006, 11:04
I don't know much about the software myself, but perhaps someone should at least see if the latest version has some enhancements in this regard. I notice they're up to 3.5.3 and this site appears to be using 3.0.6....

And FWIW, I have to agree with the OP that this would appear to be a bug. Hell, there are times I have to ignore myself! ;)

Oh, and while I'm on the topic of self-censorship, mea cupla for posting about the KM bit when there was already a thread about it. I looked (briefly), but I guess there are so many sticky threads in that forum that I didn't search down far enough. Sigh....

cp_ste.croix
01-20-2006, 11:24
I'm actually very sensitive.


here is an E-hug for you my friend...

FrankS
01-20-2006, 11:28
I"m glad I took you off my ignore list Chris, or I may have missed that. Thanks. ;) (yuk, yuk)

cp_ste.croix
01-20-2006, 11:32
heh...ouch! Now I'm feeling sensitive :D

XAos
01-20-2006, 11:44
Ignore filters, IMAO, are to be used in a last resort, when somebody is indeed behaving like an equine derriere. Fortunately on this system, those are very few and far between.

I agree that the best filter is the human-based one. :)

The ignore feature is really a mechanical safety feature intended to provide a short term solution to people actually attacking a forum before intervention can step in. Like flooding. spamming, etc... It's not particularly well suited to ignoring someone who is actually participating but is just being annoying, or you have an ongoing fued with. Without it someone could post 10,000 posts linking inline images to that ogrish web site (just a ferinstance) and if Joe was out of town for the weekend the board could be pretty much useless.

Kevin
01-20-2006, 11:45
I would like to be able to ignore posts that are disgustingly sweet.

Bryan Lee
01-20-2006, 12:41
The forum in its current version works just fine. Sometimes new versions or builds have compatability issues and its better to let other websites find problems and deal with them than have the website go down. I think Jorge is busy enough and doing a great job so there is no point in giving him extra problems over such a non issue as this. I believe Joe is busy enough also as to not have to moderate potentialy inflameable and ill thoughtout threads that have nothing to do with photography or posting pictures and more to do with personality, nationality, camera tribalism , or other divesive non photography related bandwith wasters.

cp_ste.croix
01-20-2006, 12:45
I would like to be able to ignore posts that are disgustingly sweet.

between that and ingoring obnoxious ones, this place might get boring :D

Bertram2
01-20-2006, 17:43
. It's not particularly well suited to ignoring someone who is actually participating but is just being annoying, .

Why not ? I find it useful, it REMINDS me again and again of decisions I have made: NOT to read certain peoples contributions , from what (good) reason ever. I am more like Kevin, scrolling through a thread and getting that stuff on the monitor it is too hard to really ingnore it. I mean before you decide not to read it and scroll it down your eyes have caught the half of it already in reflex and then you read the rest to. And you get sour because you have wasted time again beeing too curious what kinda nonsense the member ga_ga has written this time. :bang:

As long as you have a handful of names on your ignore list I consider this to be healthy and normal. If one day I should realize that I meanwhile collected 100 names or more on this ignore list this would mean I spent too much time on the wrong list. Sure this won't happen to me. ;)

bertram

parks5920
01-20-2006, 17:49
ignore function? Ya mean you can push a button now to ignore what someone writes? Guess I'm just lazy and skip over the posts/threads that I don't want to read, by well uh, not reading them! What a joke! :rolleyes:

FrankS
01-20-2006, 17:53
It sounds like a software solution upgrade is being suggested to protect people from their own weaknesses/shortcomings. If you don't want to read someone's posts, then don't. Not having the fortitude to make that decision and to take that action for yourself sounds wimpy.

ch1
01-20-2006, 17:54
Why not ? I find it useful, it REMINDS me again and again of decisions I have made: NOT to read certain peoples contributions , from what (good) reason ever. I am more like Kevin, scrolling through a thread and getting that stuff on the monitor it is too hard to really ingnore it. I mean before you decide not to read it and scroll it down your eyes have caught the half of it already in reflex and then you read the rest to. And you get sour because you have wasted time again beeing too curious what kinda nonsense the member ga_ga has written this time. :bang:

As long as you have a handful of names on your ignore list I consider this to be healthy and normal. If one day I should realize that I meanwhile collected 100 names or more on this ignore list this would mean I spent too much time on the wrong list. Sure this won't happen to me. ;)

bertram

I wonder if I am on bertram's list? I complimented him yesterday :angel: on another thread and he didn't respond! :D

parks5920
01-20-2006, 17:56
Or being pathetic?


It sounds like a software solution upgrade is being suggested to protect people from their own weaknesses/shortcomings.

parks5920
01-20-2006, 18:00
Watch out G'man or I'll ignore you! :D

parks5920
01-20-2006, 18:01
How can I ignore myself?

Bertram2
01-20-2006, 18:26
I wonder if I am on bertram's list? :D

You aren't. Not yet ! <giggle> :p
You weren't neither naughty nor offensive not stupid enuff .
I am not as petty as you seem to assume ? I mean that you do not know what kinda company Zeiss is would not be reason enuff for me to put you on my ignore list ! Because elistist I am either, you know. :D :D

bertram

back alley
01-20-2006, 18:33
ok, i wanna know!

who has me on their ignore list?

oh crap, they wont see this!
can everyone here ask this same question for me, i need it to be everyone just in case most of you are on someone's ignore list...

Todd.Hanz
01-20-2006, 18:34
Does the "Ignore" function just hide that certain persons posts from a thread? How does the thread maintain continuity then, seems I would get lost not being able to read everyones opinion or statements. Do people really bother others to the point they want to ignore them? Sounds like a form of personal censorship, maybe a need to exert control over another persons opinions.

Todd

ch1
01-20-2006, 18:49
You aren't. Not yet ! <giggle> :p
You weren't neither naughty nor offensive not stupid enuff .
I am not as petty as you seem to assume ? I mean that you do not know what kinda company Zeiss is would not be reason enuff for me to put you on my ignore list ! Because elistist I am either, you know. :D :D

bertram

Thanks, Bertram.

And actually, Zeiss/Cosina makes very good imitation Nikkors! ;)

I'm cornering the market on F3's. You Zeissians are going to need camera bodies for those F-mount lenses. :D

Have a good evening.

George

Bertram2
01-20-2006, 18:58
It sounds like a software solution upgrade is being suggested to protect people from their own weaknesses/shortcomings. ..... sounds wimpy.

Frank,
you decribed exactly what I consider this feature to be for me personally . As wimpy I would not consider myself tho.
Reminds me to somebody on a mailing list whose posts I always delete unread since quite a while. He claimed once that automatic gearboxes are for wimps.

bertram

Bertram2
01-20-2006, 19:12
Thanks, Bertram.
And actually, Zeiss/Cosina makes very good imitation Nikkors! ;)

George

A nice jab , George but it seems you really do not know enuff about this company, check the history, how can the original imitate the imitator ? :D

I am a real Nikon fan btw, I own two of them and I consider lenses ( not that plastic AF stuff tho) and bodys as absolute top products , on par or sometimes better than all others top players. I got a "convert" already in the 70s, you preach to the wrong , you see ? ;)

bertram

ch1
01-20-2006, 19:34
A nice jab , George but it seems you really do not know enuff about this company, check the history, how can the original imitate the imitator ? :D

I am a real Nikon fan btw, I own two of them and I consider lenses ( not that plastic AF stuff tho) and bodys as absolute top products , on par or sometimes better than all others top players. I got a "convert" already in the 70s, you preach to the wrong , you see ? ;)

bertram

Actually, if I had M-mount gear, I'd prefer a Zeiss over a Leitz any day of the week.

To me: "Leitz is not worth twice the Zeiss price!" :D

Fedzilla_Bob
01-20-2006, 19:39
Better than the ignore I use my "walk away" filter. I can turn it on or off whenever I choose and it lets through just enough so that I don't become narrow minded.

In fact I'm reaching for the button... ;) Now.

Skinny McGee
01-20-2006, 19:59
It sounds like a software solution upgrade is being suggested to protect people from their own weaknesses/shortcomings. If you don't want to read someone's posts, then don't. Not having the fortitude to make that decision and to take that action for yourself sounds wimpy.

I agree with Frank... I think even someone just coming to the forum will have something to offer..... Even if it is someone you don't agree with, that has been here for a long time. If you read it and (with in yourself think it is not right and chose not to reply) someone else might have something to say that you might learn something...

If I see a thread that doesn't interest me I don't look at it.. sometimes I do, just to see the replies.. and learn something I didn't know.....

All the " smart know it all guys" are on the P.net telling everyone else what they are doing wrong.. Instead of taking photos..

i would say you are limiting your photo education by cutting out things you don't agree with... to learn is to question....

Gabriel M.A.
01-20-2006, 20:08
There is a certain society I know which prides itself for being "nice". This is actually rudeness, by way of ignoring others, in the guise of "niceness".

A proverb in Spanish says, roughly, that a dog that barks doesn't bite, meaning that what you see is what you get, and those that hide behind a mask could come and bite you in the arse.

Unfortunately being "honest" gets very easily and virtually instantly out of hand and into a tailspin, and personal attacks and mudslinging ensues.

Lofty claims of personal censorship are good and all, but pretending that if it works for you it should work for everyone is a bit misguided. Some people operate better if they can put some duct tape on the oil engine light; at least they've identified their weakness, have come to terms with it, and accepted it. Asking for some accomodation isn't "taking a position", simply some honest "hey, wouldn't it be great if we had this feature?"

Is it wrong? Maybe. Is it right? Maybe. Perhaps pointing out other people's weaknesses and shortcomings is a weakness and a shortcoming in itself. I'm guilty of it oftentimes. But if we're to pride ourselves of being a community that listens to each other, lecturing each other on what I am versus what you are may not be the best way to go about it.

back alley
01-20-2006, 20:21
To me: "Leitz is not worth twice the Zeiss price!"

you just wanted to say 'twice the zeiss price'

;)

payasam
01-20-2006, 21:19
George S is right: if there is an "ignore" option, it should work. But FrankS is also right. Here's a parallel. We don't photograph all that we see, do we?

Bertram2
01-21-2006, 05:45
I agree with Frank...
i would say you are limiting your photo education by cutting out things you don't agree with... to learn is to question....

If so fine for me as long as you don't speak about the personal "shortcomings/weaknesses" of folks who prefer to let the system remove irrelevant or annoying people. And as long as you don't suspect those to be wimps .
That's simply offensive, nothing else.

I have no imagination btw what I could learn from agressive "know-all-better" people with crappy manners ? And this kinda people are on my ignore list solely, not all those I don't agree with ? Cant' t see where your learning remark refers to the issue ? :confused:

bertram

Bryan Lee
01-21-2006, 08:45
If so fine for me as long as you don't speak about the personal "shortcomings/weaknesses" of folks who prefer to let the system remove irrelevant or annoying people. And as long as you don't suspect those to be wimps .
That's simply offensive, nothing else.

I have no imagination btw what I could learn from agressive "know-all-better" people with crappy manners ? And this kinda people are on my ignore list solely, not all those I don't agree with ? Cant' t see where your learning remark refers to the issue ? :confused:

bertram

Nice coming from A2, You have some of the worst manners on this forum :D

FrankS
01-21-2006, 09:06
I promise to practice what I preach with regards to this thread. It's going no place good.

Kevin
01-21-2006, 11:03
I suspect Jorge made a decision early on, when designing the context-sensitive menus, NOT to include an "Add User_X to Your Ignore List" menu item. The function is there, however, along with adding buddies, when you click "User CP" -> "Buddy / Ignore Lists".

And that makes sense if the designer did not wish to impart a message to new users that things can get so ugly here that they would have to ignore someone?

Hence we can establish that there are at least two types of users here. Newbies and the regulars who have hopefully learned certain rules of conduct and how to successfully steer away from flame wars. I suspect that more that 50% of the "newbies" do not or will not behave in the same way, however.

Therefore I suggest extended ignore features for regulars only. However a regular is defined is irrelevent. Most probably it will be implemented as a minimum number of posts or a minimum membership period or both.

A regular would have access to a 2nd-level context-sensitive menu, as shown in the attached screenshot. I haven't bothered to create a preferences dialog for this set of features, just because it still seems like most of you find this manner of censorship unnecessary, contrary to the "spirit" of RFF, and/or something else already mentioned.

I suppose I just need at least 25 other users to signal that this is a desired feature. Otherwise I will just leave it alone. Bertram seems to be in, anyone else?

Remember that feature requests (user requirements) are not automatically implemented. They are just specified, prioritized and maybe, eventually coded. Coding and testing a new set of features takes a lot of time and money to get right, so don't be too hard on me please. It probably wont get implemented because it doesn't have a high priority for most of the users who have responded here.

Best Regards & Happy RF-Shooting

Bertram2
01-21-2006, 12:38
I suspect Jorge made a decision early on, when designing the context-sensitive menus, NOT to include an "Add User_X to Your Ignore List" menu item.

Kevin,
I would not have any objections against the more differentiated handling of the ignore feature tho I personally do not really need it.
What i would second anyway is to make threads started by ingnored members invisible and it would be very nice if the thread mailer would know this list too.
It does not makes much sense to let this door open

I know very well tho that this has nothing to do with customizing but needs modified code.
Maybe an improvement easier to create ( which would not slow down the thread mailer by checking 5000 member's ignore lists) would be adding the name of the posting member in the mail's subject line, as mailing liszs do it:

Old: Reply to thread "All talk no photo ?"
New: "Quatschkopf" replied to thread "All talk no photo ?"

At least could delete the message then unopened as I can do it on a mailing list. Not perfect but better than now.


Regards,
bertram

Andy K
01-21-2006, 12:59
Or Jorge could just set up a special Gasbag forum.

ch1
01-21-2006, 13:10
To me: "Leitz is not worth twice the Zeiss price!"

you just wanted to say 'twice the zeiss price'

;)

Ya' caught me out, Joe.

I just couldn't resist the allitteration! ;)

Flinor
01-21-2006, 20:20
Well, let's see now,

"uninformed minds and even a few brainless people"

"worthless trash"

"lonely or frustrated"

"form into cliques and that's not really a bad thing"

"leader who interfaces with other cliques"

"things can get so ugly here"

"extended ignore for regulars only"

Give me a break. This is a camera enthusiasts forum and it used to be a pretty nice place.

back alley
01-21-2006, 21:47
don't judge us all gerry by the words of a few...

nwcanonman
01-21-2006, 22:12
Joe,
We should remember, those who live with glass lenses; shouldn't hurl insults - LOL.
If I've offended anyone, I apoligize. And feel free to put me on your 'Ignore' list. Giggle.

parks5920
01-21-2006, 23:54
A 'Full Of It' forum would be nice too! :D

Or Jorge could just set up a special Gasbag forum.

XAos
01-22-2006, 06:47
ok, i wanna know!

who has me on their ignore list?

oh crap, they wont see this!

Actually this is one of the aggrevating parts right here about ignore the time or two I've used it on other forums. People quoting the ignored person's words. So to all you back alley haters Bwa ha ha aha ha!

Andy K
01-22-2006, 06:53
I think the funniest thing you can read on any forum is the self-righteous declaration of 'Welcome to my ignore list!' If you are going to place someone on your ignore list, just do it. Shouting about it afterwards is just petty.

Here's another idea, maybe Jorge could program some 'cyber beach towels', so that cliques can 'virtually' throw their 'cyber beach towels' over any thread they feel should be reserved for their eyes only... :D

back alley
01-22-2006, 06:53
Actually this is one of the aggrevating parts right here about ignore the time or two I've used it on other forums. People quoting the ignored person's words. So to all you back alley haters Bwa ha ha aha ha!



So to all you back alley haters...

gee, it sounds like there's a club out there or something... :(

Todd.Hanz
01-22-2006, 07:19
I find duct tape works well to hide the comments of the undesirables, I just stick it across my monitior :)

Todd

yossarian
01-22-2006, 21:07
This thread has done busted the glass right outta the Goofy Meter.

nwcanonman
01-22-2006, 21:14
So to all you back alley haters...

gee, it sounds like there's a club out there or something... :(
...................
Wait A MINUTE!
There are RFF members who hate Joe??? :bang:
Them's be fight'n words :p

RJBender
01-22-2006, 21:44
Frank,
you decribed exactly what I consider this feature to be for me personally . As wimpy I would not consider myself tho.
Reminds me to somebody on a mailing list whose posts I always delete unread since quite a while. He claimed once that automatic gearboxes are for wimps.

bertram

Actually, the word used was not "wimps" if you read it on this forum.

R.J.

RJBender
01-22-2006, 21:50
I would like to be able to ignore posts that are disgustingly sweet.

Kevin,

How do you accomplish that? Keyword filters? Ok, who's making all those sweet remarks that's making Kevin disgusted? :confused:

R.J.

Frank Granovski
01-22-2006, 22:03
No one hated Joe until we chipped in for his new Ikon. ;)

jan normandale
01-22-2006, 22:36
less posting more uploading ???

payasam
01-23-2006, 00:35
Andy, looking at some of the words that people (including you) have used here, I wonder if you didn't really mean cyber teach bowels.

Andy K
01-23-2006, 01:19
He claimed once that automatic gearboxes are for wimps.


They are also for old ladies. :)

jacema
01-23-2006, 02:17
Why is it that I come to think of George Orwells "Animal farm"?
"All animals are alike, but some animals are more alike than others"!

Jacques.

Andy K
01-23-2006, 02:23
Why is it that I come to think of George Orwells "Animal farm"?
"All animals are alike, but some animals are more alike than others"!

Jacques.

It was 'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others'. This has a very different meaning if you use the word 'alike'.

So, how we going to fit 'four legs good, two legs bad' into the thread? :D

jacema
01-23-2006, 02:37
You' re right!

But no matter how Fascism will allways be Fascism - those we don't like, let us konzentrated them.

Jacques

Frank Granovski
01-23-2006, 02:59
"We live in an age of ultra priggishness bolstered by extreme hypocrisy and sinking under the weight of the ironically challenged and satirically deprived." ---Bill Pryor

back alley
01-23-2006, 05:39
i think it's time.