Back Alley not allowed to read this!

[FrankS]

Joe as a moderator does a ton of work here at RFF keeping it the kind of place we all appreciate coming to. As far as I know, he receives no compensation for what he does. Joe has indicated that he would like to win that Zeiss RF in the RFF contest. Here is my idea: if he happens not to win it in the contest, if 100 of us chipped in $20 each, we could buy him one as a show of appreciation. What do you think?

Here's the plan then:

Any RFF members who wish to show their appreciation for the excellent and uncompensated job that Back Alley Joe Rizzuto is doing for this RFF site, are invited to contribute to a group gift which will be presented to Joe. The gift is a Zeiss RF camera and a lens of Joe's choice (50, 35, or 28mm).

There are 3 ways to contribute to this gift.

1) You may send a PayPal payment to RFF member: Ray_g @ rgeneroso@gmail.com ,
2) you may make a credit card payment for an item named: Joe Rizzutos-RFF @ $5 each, listed on the RFF sponsor site: PopFlash.Photo, or
3) you may send a money order to PopFlash.Photo to pay for an item listed as: Joe Rizzutos-RFF @ $5 each.

A $20 donation is suggested.

OK the part number is "Joe Rizzutos-RFF" at:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=%24...2N%5F0%20%20%0A

Thank you for your help, Tony Rose!

[Gabriel M.A.]

I wish I knew Pig Latin. But Ix-may Ix-nay. ;)

Post-edit: Ok, I did the "your wife is a tadpole" thing. Languages are a tricky and dangerous thing. :eek:

What I meant was: I'mway inway :)

[peterc]

Frank, put me down for a contribution. Policing a BBS is no piece of cake and usually thankless. Joe does a great job and from what I've seen in the short time I've been here, does so with an even hand (no easy task). He deserves some thanks ... and a new camera to buy 35mm lenses for.

Peter

[Burkey]

Frank - great idea!!! Do you have a PayPal account? That would be the easiest way to collect the money for the purchase. Put me down for $20.
-Burkey

[GeneW]

Frank, you can count me in. I've been a moderator on a couple of listserves and it's definitely not a cakewalk (hmmm, old expression, does anyone say 'cakewalk' any more??)

Gene

[Kyle]

Frank, you can count me in. I've been a moderator on a couple of listserves and it's definitely not a cakewalk (hmmm, old expression, does anyone say 'cakewalk' any more??)

Gene

Yes, they do. :)

Anyways, I'm sure I could scrounge together a few backs. Great idea, Frank!

[fgianni]

Count me in, send me a PM when you have enough people.

[dexdog]

Frank, count me in. PM when you need the money. PayPal would be easiest.

dexdog

[FrankS]

Hey, thanks for the quick positive responses! I don't have a payPal account and agree it may be an easy way for may (though not all) folks to contribute. So, who has a PayPal account willing to collect this way? I'm willing to collect checks, cash, or MO's. Honest, I can be trusted.

[FrankS]

About 1/10th of the way there in 10 minutes!

[Little Prince]

Couldn't agree more. I will be happy to contribute.

[GeneW]

Frank, I can take Paypal but suggest it would be better to have someone in the US instead so we don't go through currency conversion.

Gene

[John]

Count me in too Frank. I nominate dcsang to collect via pay pal, (if able).

[Gabriel M.A.]

Count me in too Frank. I nominate dcsang to collect via pay pal, (if able).
Reminds me of meetings at work, where the absentee gets assigned most action-items... Dave's in Canada, mebelieves...

[dexdog]

A question. I am guessing that the camera shoould be bought in Canada, so as to avoid any Customs issues. Whaddya think ?


Frank, I would be glad to mail you a check too.

[FrankS]

Good thinking Gene.

That's right about Dave being in Canada. Need someone stateside to step up with a PayPal account.

[flashover]

I will chip in Frank. See you at the Toronto meeting or the camera show next weekend.

[JoeFriday]

who's Joe?

[robert blu]

Yes, count me as well ! I would be pleased to contribute with my 20$ ! ciao
robert

[Gid]

Count me in. Just let me know when you need it.

Gid

[FrankS]

A question. I am guessing that the camera shoould be bought in Canada, so as to avoid any Customs issues. Whaddya think ?
Frank, I would be glad to mail you a check too.

Gee you guys are smart. We'd have to look at selling prices in Canada vs US. I'm guessing they'd be much cheaper in the US, and we should buy from a RFF sponsor. Perhaps someone could carry the camera over the border (Trius?)

[ray_g]

I'd be happy to take the Paypal payments, Frank. Anybody know if Tony Rose or CQ takes paypal payment?

[ray_g]

Just remember that Paypal will deduct surcharges, which in this case will be close to $80

[Fred]

Yup, count me in as well.

Maybe a sponsor could pop in a small gift, a few rolls of film or something like that. More thought anyone?

[FrankS]

Thanks Ray! :)

[Gabriel M.A.]

Just remember that Paypal will deduct surcharges, which in this case will be close to $80
I guess the best thing would be that, if we are able to do so, to send a M.O. $80 is a big chunk; could buy a filter + s/h.

[jlw]

Not to rain on this parade of generosity, but wasn't this sort of thing banned when people wanted to chip in to reimburse Jorge for some stolen equipment?

[dexdog]

I'd be happy to take the Paypal payments, Frank. Anybody know if Tony Rose or CQ takes paypal payment?


Just checked, CameraQuest accepts PayPal, as well as a number of other payment forms.

[ray_g]

If we don't make 100, we could always get him a Canon 100/2 ;)

[ray_g]

Just checked, CameraQuest accepts PayPal, as well as a number of other payment forms.

Hey, thanks.

[wlewisiii]

I'm in as well Frank.

William

[FrankS]

We're at 17 so far. (or 18 if that was a yes from JoeFriday.)

A MO would be most efficient, while PayPal may be more convenient. Either one will be fine.

[cp_ste.croix]

i'm in, and i'll smuggle things accross the border too :D

[DCourter]

Can't think of a better time for my 1st post...count me in as well.

[FrankS]

Don't say the s word mule, I mean Chris. :)

All we're looking for at this point is to see if there is enough interest among members in doing this. The goal may be lofty and may need to be adjusted (say body only) but whatever, let's see where this goes.

[FrankS]

Thakk you, DCourter . Best first post ever!

[VinceC]

>>Not to rain on this parade of generosity, but wasn't this sort of thing banned when people wanted to chip in to reimburse Jorge for some stolen equipment?<<

Not sure how a private gift/donation could be banned. Even if somebody does think its banned, I'll contribute.

Also, the $80 PayPal fee might be worth it to avoid the hassle factor. That's less than $1 per donation ... less than a money order.

[Todd.Hanz]

me too as long as we all get to sign it :) just kidding.... about the signing it thing... I'm good for 20 bucks.

Todd

[FrankS]

20% complete

I missed that whole banned thing. But as you said Vince, if someone wants to give a gift of appreciation...

[smiling gecko]

...aarrgghh!!! "in for a penny, in for a pound"...i'm in, mate.

hasta la vista, adieu, dasvidanya,fino al prossimo tempo, auf wiedersehen, and later y’all
kenneth
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[Gabriel M.A.]

... less than $1 per donation ... less than a money order.
Mmm...not quite true; I found out that at two supermarket chains I can buy "MoneyGram" Money Orders for 99 cents. I once paid for an ePrey auction this way from a seller in Canada.

[Honu-Hugger]

I'm in Frank. If you are still in need of a US PayPal account I can handle this (I did this once before when collecting funds for Natalia after Katrina). Should we shoot for a donation of at least twenty, but accept whatever others can afford? Just a thought...

[VictorM.]

Count me in.

[Bryan Lee]

I think its a good idea too. How about international funds and how to get them together. I doubt if im the only guy abroad thats interested so how to get the money to you or whatever camera shop thats decided to purchase from. Another thing is supporting the sponsers of the the forum, If its a contest related camera gift maybe it should be bought from POPFLASH as theve stepped up first to give away a camera. You can PM mail me when the whole plan is in order. What is the tenative date of purchase?

[lynn]

Yes. Please add my name to the list...

[FrankS]

Bryan, you can use PayPal or a money order to contribute. Ray_g has volunteered his account. (thanks Doug) Details to be decided still, just looking for interest right now.

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[reagan]

I don't know. I still have this picture in my mind of joe in front of his computer, reading/writing/ranting/moderating on RFF, while sitting naked eating a banana! It raises the question, "What would he do with the afore mentioned camera if he got it?"

Geez, I'm in for twenty zoids, but he's got to promise LESS INFORMATION about his "moderator atire." ....... or lack thereof. :rolleyes:

[patashnik]

Put the newbie down for $20 as well :)

[Honu-Hugger]

I don't know. I still have this picture in my mind of joe in front of his computer, reading/writing/ranting/moderating on RFF, while sitting naked eating a banana! It raises the question, "What would he do with the afore mentioned camera if he got it?"

Geez, I'm in for twenty zoids, but he's got to promise LESS INFORMATION about his "moderator atire." ....... or lack thereof. :rolleyes:
Let's put any surplus towards a decent pair of shorts :).

[Joerg]

Not too late :D
I will chip in :angel:

Great idea!!!!

Joerg

[FrankS]

Not too late :D
I will chip in :angel:

Great idea!!!!

Joerg

Thanks Joerg. Good idea: you mean about the shorts, right? :)

[captainslack]

Count me in, too!

[rbiemer]

I'll play too! Please PM me a snail-mail address when this comes together.
Rob

[FrankS]

Great! 30% there in less than 2 hours. If this idea gets nixed (I should have checked with Jorge first) we may have to go underground via e-mails or PM's.

[Chaser]

If we can get it all arranged for payments ahead of time i bet Tony at popflash would work with us to take multiple payments and ship it directly to Joe. It's an option at least....

Count me in

[Honu-Hugger]

Are we going to begin committing with cash now, or do we wait for a certain number of pledges?

[FrankS]

Good idea Chaser, we will look into that.

Doug, I think we should still wait. Good thoughts and ideas are still coming up.

[ray_g]

Heh... Joe -----> darkside ;)

[Honu-Hugger]

Good idea Chaser, we will look into that.

Doug, I think we should still wait. Good thoughts and ideas are still coming up.
Standing by with an itchy PayPal trigger-finger :)...

[Alec]

Count me in too. I'll put some stuff onto ebay so that the $ come from the paypal balance :D

[Goodyear]

I would like to contribute, also.

[Screwy]

Count me in ;)

[Kyle]

I think a good way to avoid the PayPal fees is to just send $21 via PayPal, instead of $20. After PayPal takes their 3%, that will leave $20.40 donated. Thats still about the same you'd pay for a $20 MO.

[hoot]

I'm in, but I won't have the funds until the end of next week. This is fun.

[jano]

Me, too.

........................

[VinceC]

I'd much rather send $21 by paypal than deal with the hassle of finding a place that sells money order, paying the extra few cents or whatever for the money order, paying postage to send the money order, figuring out who to make out the money order to and than the reverse hassle of whoever receives the money order going through gyrations to cash it. Moving money costs money. 3 percent is worth it.

[Bryan Lee]

Bryan, you can use PayPal or a money order to contribute. Ray_g has volunteered his account. (thanks Doug) Details to be decided still, just looking for interest right now.

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Paypal is a nightmare to use from Thailand. Many people come here on holiday only to get their accounts frozen by using them here. I could drop a money order in the mail at the Embassy or something, no problem.

[JoeFriday]

yes, of course you can count me in.. if only to hear Joe rave about how great Zeiss stuff is compared to that Canon junk

[Tony Rose]

If we can get it all arranged for payments ahead of time i bet Tony at popflash would work with us to take multiple payments and ship it directly to Joe. It's an option at least....

Count me in
:p We would love to help you in anyway we can.

TR

[ray_g]

:p We would love to help you in anyway we can.

TR

Great. Thanks, Tony.

[FrankS]

:p We would love to help you in anyway we can.

TR

Thank you, Tony Rose, both or this offer to help with a purchase for our esteemed moderator, but also for the generous prize for the RFF contest!

[Stephanie Brim]

In. People have been so generous to me here. Just tell us when to start sending.

[ChrisN]

Count me in. Joe and this place has done a lot me me.

[Branestawm]

A small price to pay for someone doing a potentially tricky job impeccably. Count me in.

[Stephanie Brim]

But here's an important question: what lens should we get him with the camera? I know that he has beyond plenty of LTM lenses. He did mention that he really likes 35mm right now...

[FrankS]

41% complete!

[peter_n]

Thakk you, DCourter . Best first post ever!You are absolutely right, Frank. Please count me in too! :)

[thedilettante]

I'm in.

This thread and the enthusiasm shown has turned a rainy back-to-work Monday morning in Sydney into a great day !

Ben

[jmilkins]

Good one.

Another Aussie eats his breakfast while suRFFing and says "count me in too."

[terrafirmanada]

Please count me in. It is great to see so much good community here.

[JoeFriday]

I'd suggest the 28mm Biogon... altho that would run us $200 more.. but it would be something 'similar, but different' than Joe's usual 35.. and the ZI has the framelines for it

[Stephanie Brim]

Yeah, I was also thinking that. The 35 is also about $200 over budget.

[FrankS]

I'm talking with Tony Rose about setting up a Joe Rizzuto account at Popflash.Photo. Joe could then decide himself on what or what lens to buy. Thank you Tony!

[Stephanie Brim]

Nifty. I see you, Joe!

[JoeFriday]

or we could buy him 100 Holgas.. I vote for that

[FrankS]

Or a Leica. :) But he can decide.

[Kyle]

or we could buy him 100 Holgas.. I vote for that

Yes, lets all buy him a Holga, decorate it ourselves, and then send them to Joe! :D

[hiwatt]

Hey this thread is growing by the minute, one full page since I started reading it. This is going to be fun...

COUNT ME IN !

be it 20 or 21 bucks.
Will this mean that Joe won't be allowed to win the contest? :D

Goodnight from Italy,
Gus.

[FrankS]

He may jsut end up with 2!

[laptoprob]

Great idea Frank! The fact this is the fastest growing thread (it is, isn't it?) in RFF history proves your point!

count me in.

Rob.

[kbg32]

Count me in.

[doug.f]

Another long-lurker/first-poster says me, too.

[hoot]

He may jsut end up with 2!
One for black and white, one for color... just like Garry W.

[FrankS]

I expect this to be complete long before the contest. If Joe uses this camera to take a contest winning picture, then all the more power to him! This is about saying thank you for his excellent moderating at RFF. The contest prize is about having your photo selected. :)

[FrankS]

51% We're 1/2 way there!

[ray_g]

Unbelievable. And the other half of the world hasn't even woken up yet.

I don't think you will find another forum like this. :)

[fad gadget]

Hi Frank,

This is my first post here, so this will be a good start!
Count me in too.

Cheers,
fg

[FrankS]

When I began this, I didn't want it to sound insulting to Joe, that he wouldn't win the contest and so then we could chip in to show our appreciation by buying a camera he indicated he wanted. Sorry for the inconsistency.

[Alec]

This incredible thread is a tribute both to the RFF community and to the performance of its server : thank you Jorge! :)
[currently 15 users viewing just this one]

[sockeyed]

I like Joe.

He's a nice feller.

Count me in for $20!

[ch1]

Count me in.

Yes, CQ takes PP

Despite the service charge they are the most efficient means of arranging payment.

Let me know when it's time to "pony up".

[pedro.m.reis]

Well, i think is a good ideia.
I'm in with the $20.

[thmk]

Let me know when you start collecting, I will be in :)

Cheers
Thomas-Michael

[hoot]

Yes, please let us all know, preferably per PM or e-mail.

[FrankS]

Tony Rose of PopFlash.Photo has stepped up and volunteered to help out. Since he also is the RFF contest sponsor, I think it would be best to go with him. Tony is suggesting that he display an item on the PopFlash,Photo website called Joe Rizzuto. Each one is priced at $5 and contibutors may buy as many Joe R's as they want ($20 suggestion) using their credit card. (PopFlash.Photo does not do PayPal.) Joe will then be able to access the amount contributed to make purchases of his choice at that site. Does anyone have any questions or suggestions about this proposal?

[dadsm3]

This certainly is the gentleman's photo forum, and the mods deserve credit for keeping it that way.
I'm in.
Mike

[darkkavenger]

should be allright for me within two weeks (waiting for my wage) *giggles*

[peterc]

Does anyone have any questions or suggestions about this proposal?
An excellent idea. Kudos to Frank and Tony.

Peter

[Frank Granovski]

I'll send you a check tomorrow. I believe I still have your mailing address. $20 USD, right? :cool:

[FrankS]

Wait, FrankG. Please read post #112. Could a few more members please tell me if they think that a credit card payment to a website is do-able for them?

[wlewisiii]

using their credit card. (PopFlash.Photo does not do PayPal.)

Ouch. I'll have to email Tony and see if I can mail a money order then as I have no plastic. Usually that doesn't bother me as it keeps me out of trouble...

William

[sjc]

who needs that canon 35/3.2 anyhoo.......................?

count me in.

-s-

[thmk]

Could a few more members please tell me if they think that a credit card payment to a website is do-able for them?

For me it is ok.

Cheers
Thomas-Michael

[FrankS]

60% complete!

[Gabriel M.A.]

yes, of course you can count me in.. if only to hear Joe rave about how great Zeiss stuff is compared to that :angel: :angel:
Riiiiiight. <Dana Carvey>No way. Not gonna do it...</Dana Carvey>
::shhh:: Be bewy bewy caweful. Wiw the push of one button, and ::poof:: we go undewgwound.

[Frank Granovski]

What website for the CC?

[Honu-Hugger]

(snip)...Does anyone have any questions or suggestions about this proposal?
I'm in regardless but I favor the idea of a real gift and a set goal. Buying "Joe R's" is a lot like giving someone a gift certificate which is certainly better than no gift :D but usually does not convey the same impact as an actual gift. My feeling is we should set a goal for a particular camera and lens, raise the necessary money to buy it and present it as a real gift to Joe, not what in effect will be a gift certificate.

[FrankS]

I understand what you're saying, Doug. Anyone else with suggestions?

[Jocko]

I understand what you're saying, Doug. Anyone else with suggestions?

Only "count me in"! This community is a joy.

[fad gadget]

Hi Frank,

CC payment is fine for me, just let me know when to pony up. I think the thought of presenting it as an actual gift would be nice as well.

Cheers,
fg

[dexdog]

credit card is OK with me. Like Honu-Hugger, I would prefer to give an actual gift instead of setting up an account that backalley use to fund purchases.

Re: The dark side. This is not the dark side- there is no "L word" attached.

dexdog

[ch1]

Wait, FrankG. Please read post #112. Could a few more members please tell me if they think that a credit card payment to a website is do-able for them?

I think you and Tony have come up with a great idea.

Was it Tony who thought up the name for the "item"?

He must be an old Yankees fan! :D

Let us know when Tony has listed the item on his website.

I do think it should be for a specific camera/lens kit (i.e. the Ikon).

Let's see how much we raise for it and then perhaps a few of us will be willing to buy a few more Rizzutos is we fall short.

[denishr]

Well, I'm glad I checked in before hitting the sack!

Frank, count me in - I'm OK with plastic (actually prefer it!)....

As for "real gift" I think it's a good idea...

Denis

[Tony Rose]

Ouch. I'll have to email Tony and see if I can mail a money order then as I have no plastic. Usually that doesn't bother me as it keeps me out of trouble...

William


We will take money orders.
TR

[Gid]

CC no problem. I think you should stick with the original idea. If Joe's expressed a desire to own the Zeiss, then, how better could we reward his excellent service. Just get the Money to Tony by whatever means works and when there's enough in the pot just call a halt. If we are a little short you can count me in for some additional contribution.

Just waiting for the starting gun.

Regards

Gid

[Burkey]

Credit Card/Debit Card is fine with me. I do agree with those folks that suggest an actual gift such as the original idea.

[Kyle]

I'm in regardless but I favor the idea of a real gift and a set goal. Buying "Joe R's" is a lot like giving someone a gift certificate which is certainly better than no gift :D but usually does not convey the same impact as an actual gift. My feeling is we should set a goal for a particular camera and lens, raise the necessary money to buy it and present it as a real gift to Joe, not what in effect will be a gift certificate.

I really think this is the best idea. Any payment method is fine by me, but CC/debit/PP is the best.

[DougK]

I too prefer the idea of a "real" gift.

Regardless, count me in.

[Frank Granovski]

Do we send out M.O.s to Frank or Tony?

Tony Rose
2767 Baywater Place
Thousand Oaks, CA 91362

[Nick R.]

I'm in. If need be I'll host a webpage saying how, when and where to send the money to. That way I'll know myself.

[Trius]

Gee you guys are smart. We'd have to look at selling prices in Canada vs US. I'm guessing they'd be much cheaper in the US, and we should buy from a RFF sponsor. Perhaps someone could carry the camera over the border (Trius?)
Frank: Yup, I could do that. I'll PM you later.

Earl

[peter_n]

For me it is OK as well.

Tony should consider accepting PayPal I think...

[Stephanie Brim]

Credit card won't work for me. No plastic. It'll have to be one of two ways on my end: paypal or money order.

[FrankS]

Thanks Nick, a separate web page is a good idea!

Here's the plan then:

Any RFF members who wish to show their appreciation for the excellent and uncompensated job that Back Alley Joe Rizzuto is doing for this RFF site, are invited to contribute to a group gift which will be presented to Joe. The gift is a Zeiss RF camera and a lens of Joe's choice (50, 35, or 28mm).

There are 3 ways to contribute to this gift.

1) You may send a PayPal payment to RFF member: Ray_g @ rgeneroso@gmail.com ,
2) you may make a credit card payment for an item named: Joe Rizzuto @ $5 each, listed on the RFF sponsor site: PopFlash.Photo, or
3) you may send a money order to PopFlash.Photo to pay for an item listed as: Joe Rizzuto @ $5 each.

A $20 donation is suggested.

OK the part number is "Joe Rizzutos-RFF" at:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=%24%24%2E2N%5F0%20%20%0A

Thank you for your help, Tony Rose!

[Joerg]

I am looking forward to buying 4 Joes :cool: ;)

Joerg

[Dingo]

Count me in, I will try the best way to send the US$20 out...

[Andrew Touchon]

I'm in. Just let me know how and where to send the $20.

[cp_ste.croix]

hmmm buying Joe's almost makes me feel like a John :D

hey, after Joe retires, can I call dibs on being the next moderator? :D :D

[Honu-Hugger]

A couple more questions/suggestions: will our donated amounts be anonymous? I'm sure that many members will be willing to give more than the suggested amount but out of consideration for all our members perhaps the donations should be private. And, is this a gift from the RFF community as a whole? I would favor it being a gift from the entire community but would like to know the preferences of others -- thanks.

[ch1]

Oops, what if Joe wins the RFF contest?

Then he'll have two ZI's (plus all of his Canons) and will have to quit his job to have enough time to use them all. Not only that, he will have to spend all of his savings buying Chinese Lucky film imported by Bill M. (who will be the last film vendor on the planet).

Even worse, without his job, Joe will no longer be able to pay his rent/mortgage and become a homeless "street shooter" offering to take photos of men leaping over puddles for some spare change.

Ultimately, Joe will wander the streets of Edmonton mumbling to himself that those j-rks at RFF have ruined his life!

Cool - let's do it! :D

[VinceC]

I'm in favor a gift on behalf of the entire community. It should be an actual camera, not a cash-equivalent.

[peterc]

Cool - let's do it! :D
ROTFLMAO :D

Peter

[FrankS]

LOL, George!

Doug (D2), that's what I was thinking too.

[RJBender]

A couple more questions/suggestions: will our donated amounts be anonymous? I'm sure that many members will be willing to give more than the suggested amount but out of consideration for all our members perhaps the donations should be private. And, is this a gift from the RFF community as a whole? I would favor it being a gift from the entire community but would like to know the preferences of others -- thanks.

I'll chip in, too. Great Idea, Frank. http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/images/smilies/bounce2.gif

Honu-Hugger, I think we should have all of our names engraved on the camera. What do you guys think? http://www.ubbcentral.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif


http://audiokarma.org/forums/images/smilies/beerchug.gif

R.J.

[Honu-Hugger]

Oops, what if Joe wins the RFF contest?

Then he'll have two ZI's (plus all of his Canons) and will have to quit his job to have enough time to use them all. Not only that, he will have to spend all of his savings buying Chinese Lucky film imported by Bill M. (who will be the last film vendor on the planet).

Even worse, without his job, Joe will no longer be able to pay his rent/mortgage and become a homeless "street shooter" offering to take photos of men leaping over puddles for some spare change.

Ultimately, Joe will wander the streets of Edmonton mumbling to himself that those j-rks at RFF have ruined his life!

Cool - let's do it! :D
Alright!!! Now it is really interesting :D.

[Chaser]

works for me

[Bryan Lee]

Im having second thoughts after seeing those horribly cold looking pictures Joe posted, Maybe we should send him somwhere warm. How much would it be for a roundtrip ticket for him to pick up the camera in person and get a afternoon in the sun to test the first few rolls of film? :D

[VictorM.]

"I think we should have all of our names engraved on the camera. What do you guys think?" Like the Stanley Cup!

[ch1]

A couple more questions/suggestions: will our donated amounts be anonymous? I'm sure that many members will be willing to give more than the suggested amount but out of consideration for all our members perhaps the donations should be private. And, is this a gift from the RFF community as a whole? I would favor it being a gift from the entire community but would like to know the preferences of others -- thanks.

I agree on this. Some folks are able to purchase more Rizzutos than others. But we are a community and should present the present (wow - isn't the English language weird some times! :D ) as a community gift.

Picking up on RJ Bender's suggestion - perhaps just a "list" of contributing friends (not engraved on the lens, though - I hear it ruins the photos!) to accompany the gift?

Frank - did Tony give you any idea how long it would be for him to "post the item"?

We don't want to let these "hot wallets" get cold (if you know what I mean :) )

[dostacos]

should be a gift of the camera, not etched names but I think our initials laser engraved would be fine :D

I am in for $20USD or 4 Joes

[rover]

I have been out all day, but am very pleasantly surprised by everyone's generosity, and this excellent idea.

I am in of course, and if I can help out in anyway let me know, but it looks like this is pretty well nailed down.

Actually, "pleasantly surprised by everyone's generosity" is not accurate at all. I am very happy to see this depth in our community. I know that as individuals we have a bunch of great people here.

[VictorM.]

"We don't want to let these "hot wallets" get cold (if you know what I mean )"

I just paypal'ed my share-if I can figure it out anyone can. OT: Does anyone remember Jerry Lewis Telethons in the 50's?

[FrankS]

69 responses. That means the body is paid for! Let's go for the lens now!

[dostacos]

or we could buy him 100 Holgas.. I vote for that
or one holga and a hundred rolls of duct tape :D

[FrankS]

Tony just responded that there will be a part number listed on the Popflash.photo site called Joe Rizzuto. He'll send us the link as soon as it's listed, and then we can get going. If you prefer paypal, you can send a contribution to Joe's gift right now, using rgeneroso@gmail.com as the paypal recipient.

[RJBender]

Oops, what if Joe wins the RFF contest?


Maybe Tony will let him get a lens instead.

Then he'll have two ZI's (plus all of his Canons) and will have to quit his job to have enough time to use them all. Not only that, he will have to spend all of his savings buying Chinese Lucky film imported by Bill M. (who will be the last film vendor on the planet).

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/images/smilies/nervous.gif I wonder if Bill's trying to get exclusive distribution rights for Lucky film in the USA.

R.J.

[Honu-Hugger]

"We don't want to let these "hot wallets" get cold (if you know what I mean )"

I just paypal'ed my share-if I can figure it out anyone can. OT: Does anyone remember Jerry Lewis Telethons in the 50's?
Is this the official kick-off? I just sent funds to Ray_G as well -- we're on our way!!!

[Andrew Touchon]

FYI the Popflash site is working now.

[Bryan Lee]

Maybe Tony will let him get a lens instead.



http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/images/smilies/nervous.gif I wonder if Bill's trying to get exclusive distribution rights for Lucky film in the USA.

R.J.

Maybe after this deal is completly finished and all goes well we can have a second project.

We could get Bill a lucky film kiosk in Tiannman Sqaure and include a 56k connection for him to post from and a webcam so we can watch him sell film :D

[ch1]

....

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/images/smilies/nervous.gif I wonder if Bill's trying to get exclusive distribution rights for Lucky film in the USA.

R.J.

Fortunately, Joe lives in Canada. So he will not be ruined by Bill M's dastardly scheme. http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/images/smilies/bonk.gif

Then again, all of the other bad things will ruin him! :eek:

[FrankS]

OK the part number is "Joe Rizzutos-RFF" at:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=%24%24%2E2N%5F0%20%20%0A

[FrankS]

We're up and running on all cylinders!

Here's the plan then:

Any RFF members who wish to show their appreciation for the excellent and uncompensated job that Back Alley Joe Rizzuto is doing for this RFF site, are invited to contribute to a group gift which will be presented to Joe. The gift is a Zeiss RF camera and a lens of Joe's choice (50, 35, or 28mm).

There are 3 ways to contribute to this gift.

1) You may send a PayPal payment to RFF member: Ray_g @ rgeneroso@gmail.com ,
2) you may make a credit card payment for an item named: Joe Rizzutos-RFF @ $5 each, listed on the RFF sponsor site: PopFlash.Photo, or
3) you may send a money order to PopFlash.Photo to pay for an item listed as: Joe Rizzutos-RFF @ $5 each.

A $20 donation is suggested.

OK the part number is "Joe Rizzutos-RFF" at:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=%24...2N%5F0%20%20%0A

Thank you for your help, Tony Rose!

[gns]

Frank,
What a great idea! Well deserved on Joe's part. You can count me in for a Jackson.

Gary

[ch1]

OK the part number is "Joe Rizzutos-RFF" at:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=%24%24%2E2N%5F0%20%20%0A

Do we ignore the huge shipping charges or will that wind up on our CC bill?

Right now there are big time shipping charges being tacked on to the checkout bill.

[Andrew Touchon]

Yes, the email you get when you complete checkout will show zero shipping charges.

[RJBender]

"We don't want to let these "hot wallets" get cold (if you know what I mean )"

I just paypal'ed my share-if I can figure it out anyone can. OT: Does anyone remember Jerry Lewis Telethons in the 50's?

I think that means Frank has to stay up all night, smoke 300 cigarettes and sing My Way fifteen times.

R.J.

[ch1]

Rizzutos ordered!

And I get some more Freaky Flier miles too!!! :cool:

[FrankS]

Hey, maybe we could collect those too, and have Joe fly down to pick up the camera! :)

cough, But mooore, much cough mooore than this, cough...

[ch1]

I think that means Frank has to stay up all night, smoke 300 cigarettes and sing My Way fifteen times.

R.J.

Yeah, and drag out little crippled kids!

BTW: these things went into the 90's.

Also, Jerry is still with us and apparetnly suffering from really bad depression - I'm not the praying type - but if you are - just do it! :angel:

[MP Guy]

i in for the lens :)

[MP Guy]

This is what I call brotherhood of the web. The members here are incredible. I have never seen this at another site before. We have somehing special here that we need to be thankful for.

Now I shall censor this thread :D

[peter_n]

OK, just paid for 4 Joe's at Popflash with my CC. :D

A link truncated from Frank's is below:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=$$.2N_0

[Honu-Hugger]

Please post a tally periodically -- thanks :).

[RJBender]

How did you get the $75 shipping charge out of the cart? Does it disappear after you enter your CC information?

R.J.

[wlewisiii]

Got my order placed, just have to wait till Tuesday to send the money order as the US Post Office is closed for MLK Day tomorrow.

William

[Andrew Touchon]

It goes away when you finish placing your order.

[wlewisiii]

Ack, the shipping is on my confirmation email. Grumble. Wonder what I did wrong this time...

William

[ch1]

Please post a tally periodically -- thanks :).

Good idea.

I went to five Joes but could do a few more if it gets us there!

[ch1]

Ack, the shipping is on my confirmation email. Grumble. Wonder what I did wrong this time...

William

Click over to USPS Priority from the FedEx default.

[I hope - haven't checked my e-mails yet!!]

[peterc]

Yes, the email you get when you complete checkout will show zero shipping charges.
The email I got shows a total of $45 including a $25 shipping charge ... Yikes!!!

Peter

[Andrew Touchon]

I used the USPS option and my checkout email showed zero shiping charges.

[peter_n]

What Andrew said. Select the USPS option it shows as shipping=$0.00 on the confirmation page.

[ch1]

What Andrew said. Select the USPS option it shows as shipping=$0.00 on the confirmation page.



Yes, just looked at my e-mails.

Pick the USPS Priority option (shows $0.00 on order sheet) and you're okay.

[FrankS]

I just asked Tony to advise on the shipping charges but it looks like you guys figured it out. :)

Many thanks for your support for this Jorge!

[doug.f]

Bought me some Joes. :D

Great idea, Frank; thanks!

[JoeFriday]

is there some way to see much we've collected so far?

[FrankS]

We may have just invented a new unit of mesure for US dollars. 1 "Joe" = $5.
It used to be called a fin, right?

[peterc]

I just asked Tony to advise on the shipping charges but it looks like you guys figured it out.
I still have a receipt email showing $45. Any way to get that fixed?

Peter

[RJBender]

http://www.imagesandmore.com/images/4JOES.jpg

R.J.

[ch1]

is there some way to see much we've collected so far?

Not to worry Brett, your CC is being held on reserve to make up any shortfall.

Now you gotta hope we're a generous lot. :D

[FrankS]

Ray_g and Tony, could you keep us updated every once in a while?

[flashover]

Hay Frank give us the running total on pledges. Just like Jerry Lewis

[Joe Brugger]

Count me in, but I don't do Paypal. What's the alternative, or do I have to go back and eadray all the osptspay?

[JoeFriday]

Not to worry Brett, your CC is being held on reserve to make up any shortfall.

Now you gotta hope we're a generous lot. :D
no problem. I'm sure my credit limit can handle at least another $8

[FrankS]

Joe, go to the first psot in this thread, I've updated it with the plan.

I've just heard from Tony about the shipping charges:
"The out of country (USA) will get tagged with shipping and we are trying to change this now. If it does happen we will go in and return the charges. The USA folks need to select USPS for shipping and none will be charged. I am watching ALL of them closely to see that they do not get charged shipping." TR

[peterc]

Received a credit for the shipping email. That was fast ... thanks.

Peter

[FrankS]

http://www.imagesandmore.com/images/4JOES.jpg

R.J.


RJ, reportedly, when you select USPS priority mail, and submit your order, the shipping charge is removed.

[RJBender]

RJ, reportedly, when you select USPS priority mail, and submit your order, the shipping charge is removed.


Frank,

I just got a confirmation e-mail. Yes, the bottom button is the one to select.
$20 order # 002699

R.J.

[ch1]

Hey Frank and you other Canadians -

We have a holiday down here tomorrow (Martin Luther King Day) - so we can stay up late.

How are you guys going to stay awake at work tomorrow? ;)

[FrankS]

I'm heading off to bed now. Enjoy your holiday!


20:30PST
We have $115.00 already and $20.00 to come in a money order. We need to know what Ray_g has on Paypal.
TR

[terrafirmanada]

Bought some joes, but I neglected to select the USPS, and got hit with the shipping. Sorry about the hassel, but will that 55 go back on my card? Or do I need to contact Tony to straighten that out?

[RJBender]

Hey Frank and you other Canadians -

We have a holiday down here tomorrow (Martin Luther King Day) - so we can stay up late.

How are you guys going to stay awake at work tomorrow? ;)


Coffee?

http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif

R.J.

[FrankS]

terra:

I've just heard from Tony about the shipping charges:
"The out of country (USA) will get tagged with shipping and we are trying to change this now. If it does happen we will go in and return the charges. The USA folks need to select USPS for shipping and none will be charged. I am watching ALL of them closely to see that they do not get charged shipping." TR

[terrafirmanada]

Thanks Frank we appreciate all of your hard work.

[f/stopblues]

I bought some Joe's just now too. For $55, I was almost tempted to see if Joe showed up on my doorstep tomorrow afternoon :D I went with USPS instead.

[peterc]

How are you guys going to stay awake at work tomorrow? ;)
I work at night so I don't really have to get up until noon... and I usually try not to stay awake at work anyway (consciousness can be greatly overrated). :D

Peter

[ch1]

Coffee?

http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif

R.J.

RJ,

That's not coffee!

I know my "pints o'Guiness" when I see them!


http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif

[RJBender]

RJ,

That's not coffee!

I know my "pints o'Guiness" when I see them!


http://www.ubrf.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif

I had to improvise, George. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_gapteeth.gif


http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/images/smilies/bs.gif

R.J.

[Stephanie Brim]

Ya know, if you put those URLs in IMG tags... Or not. Why does it *say* that IMG code works at the bottom of my post page if it doesn't actually work? On of life's great mysteries.

[reagan]

funds on the way to ray_g. thanks frank, ray_g and all for getting this together.

another idea just came to me. maybe we could do a sort of "pass the camera"-type project... only we'd "pass joe's new camera before he gets it." we'd mail it to all RFF members, let them pull it out of the box, take one self portrait with it, :cool: re-box and ship on to the next member. one little drawback, i guess, is the fact that by the time joe got it the camera would have 4000+ shots run through it and he'd be 128 years old. ........ but boy, won't he be surprised?!! :eek:

[shaaktiman]

This is a really nice idea. Put me down for $20.
I didn't read every post. Is there an email account set up on paypal yet that I can donate to?

[mr roberts]

It's nice when a plan comes together...especially one intended to do somthing worthwhile.

My money's already been sent to RayG.

[ray_g]

I'm heading off to bed now. Enjoy your holiday!


20:30PST
We have $115.00 already and $20.00 to come in a money order. We need to know what Ray_g has on Paypal.
TR

$376.63 so far (net of surcharges). Goodnight.

Reminder: rgeneroso@gmail.com for Joe's gift donation via paypal.

[Little Prince]

Hmm... I don't know. I'm not able to load the Popflash URL. It says some error or the other. Anyone tried to access it recently?

[Kyle]

Hmm... I don't know. I'm not able to load the Popflash URL. It says some error or the other. Anyone tried to access it recently?
Its working just fine for me...

[jmilkins]

Hmm... I don't know. I'm not able to load the Popflash URL. It says some error or the other. Anyone tried to access it recently?

you can also search "JOE RUZUTTOS" under the find a product , choose a category tab on their site folks....

and buy them ....which I 've just done. Though for international adresses you can't disable the shipping fee, but I'm sure Tony @ popflash will watch out for that for us...

Or use Ray's Paypal....though I had trouble with the email adress there...

[RML]

Sent $21 over PayPal.

I agree Joe should get a real gift. Is there a way we could see some photos of his receiving the camera? I don't know how much Joe already knows about this thread, but don't you think this could be a shocker for him when he opens the door to find some Canadian RFF members on his doorstep with a nicely gift-wrapped ZI? I'd like to see his face! BTW, beware of his ticker!

[Pherdinand]

Hi guysFrank, great idea, iád like to contribute bz pazpal however at this moment iám on mz waz to romania, not sure when i can safelz do the transfer. Anz time schedule-deadline for the project? Sorry, on this interface i apparently cannot use 'new line' and the keys are also mixed up!!!cheers, pherdinand

[hiwatt]

Sent my part to Ray (paypal). :)

I'm with those who'd prefer to have a nice new Ikon delivered to Joe, then he could have a gift certificate for the eventual difference...but whatever you guys decide it's fine.

Gus.

[kvanderlaag]

Yeah, I just sent my payment to Ray. It's easier that way for me, all things considered, so whatever happens, at least I feel like I did something for Joe!

I mean, if I can't have a brand new Zeiss Ikon, why not help give it to someone who deserves it?

[Rich Silfver]

How about a simple engraving like "To Joe from all your friends at RFF"

[Frank Granovski]

How about a simple engraving like "To Joe from all your friends at RFF"Engraving would devalue the resale value unless it's done in the Cosina Factory---then it would be a collector's.

[Frank Granovski]

Yeah, but what happans when the Ikon 11 comes out, eh? ;)

[pedro.m.reis]

Just the the contrib to Ray. It goes in €''s.... hope that is no prob....

[RJBender]

Hey:)

In that case I think someone should engrave it with a 6" nail. It's a gift for joe to keep, not to sell! :rolleyes:

ManGo

Correcto!

With the engraving, he will never be tempted to trade it for some Canon gear. :angel: http://www.corvetteforum.cc/zeroimg/smilies/nono.gif http://forums.off-topic.net/images/smilies/naughty.gif

R.J.

[pedro.m.reis]

I vote for the engraving also :) Its a gift right?
A card with "with love from" also could be used....

[Gid]

Popflash have my money. Hope they remember to refund the shipping :eek:

Engraving is a good idea.

Maybe we should have aimed higher and got him an RD-1. I'd love to see his face when he received a DIGITAL :D

Gid

[fgianni]

Just paypalled $21 at

rgeneroso@gmail.com

I hope we get this done real fast!

[fgianni]

Popflash have my money. Hope they remember to refund the shipping :eek:

Engraving is a good idea.

Maybe we should have aimed higher and got him an RD-1. I'd love to see his face when he received a DIGITAL :D

Gid

It's not too late, I am prepared to double my contribution to send him an RD-1

[hiwatt]

Same here!

As long as we get him an ENGRAVED RD-1 !!

[denishr]

I just got a confirmation email from popflash store (paid by CC), but the mail was empty....

I just hope they don't charge me $25 for shipping of a $20 gift certificate:)

Regards,

Denis

[Gid]

It's not too late, I am prepared to double my contribution to send him an RD-1

Me too. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to bring an old film duffer into the 21st century :D

Gid

[thmk]

Refunding of shipping costs is no problem. I got an information very fast that the shipping is booked back to my CC.

Chees
Thomas-Michael

[rover]

OK, just paid for 4 Joe's at Popflash with my CC. :D

A link truncated from Frank's is below:

http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=$$.2N_0




For some reason the other link didn't work for me, but this one did fine.

[jamiewakeham]

Now, this is a little odd. I'm in the middle of teaching my year eleven class (ie 16 year olds) about potential dividers as an intro to transistor theory. I have a pet analogy for teaching it, involving lots of little guys called 'Joe Coulomb' who run around the circuit, dropping off 'jewel's' (or Joules...) at each resistor.

So, from going to talking about a bunch of Joes to my class, I'm now off to buy a bunch of Joes. How surreal.

Right. Shoppin' time.

Jamie

[fgianni]

Now, this is a little odd. I'm in the middle of teaching my year eleven class (ie 16 year olds) about potential dividers as an intro to transistor theory. I have a pet analogy for teaching it, involving lots of little guys called 'Joe Coulomb' who run around the circuit, dropping off 'jewel's' (or Joules...) at each resistor.

So, from going to talking about a bunch of Joes to my class, I'm now off to buy a bunch of Joes. How surreal.

Right. Shoppin' time.

Jamie

Shouldn't they be Joe Electron that carry Carbons(Coulombs) to to devices that transform them into Jewels (Joules)?

Now this is really getting surreal!

[FrankS]

Good morning all. Let's try to make our target today. Hopefully Ray_g and Tony will update us in a bit so we know how we're doing.

If you'd like to contribute but haven't yet, here's how:

Go to your PayPal site and send a payment to Ray_g (rgeneroso@gmail.com )

Or go to the Popflash.photo sponsor site here: http://popflash.com/item.cfm?id=$$.2N_0

Now, does anyone have any ideas on how to get it to him?

Tony could mail the camera to a RFF member in the US close to the Canada border who can then carry it across to a Canadian member who can mail it to another member who lives close to Joe to deliver it in person.

[ray_g]

Frank, I posted an update on the thread last night. We are coming along well. Some more have come in this morning, and I will post another update tonight.

[Honu-Hugger]

Do you think we may be missing members with the title of this thread? Since Joe is well aware of what is going on perhaps we should title the thread more openly and in line with what we are doing, just to be certain that everyone that would like to give has the opportunity.

[FrankS]

Good idea. Do you want to do that, Doug? I'm working today. :)
Feel free to cut and paste whatever from this thread.

[jamiewakeham]

Shouldn't they be Joe Electron that carry Carbons(Coulombs) to to devices that transform them into Jewels (Joules)?

Not really. It allows for the definition of the volt as one Joule per Coulomb, ie one jewel per Joe. Each Joe represents one coulomb of charge, ie about 10^19 electrons.

Having won the prize for oddest thread-jack, I'm going to appear really naive. Does Joe know what we're up to?

Jamie

[Honu-Hugger]

Good idea. Do you want to do that, Doug? I'm working today. :)
Feel free to cut and paste whatever from this thread.

My pleasure Frank. I'll make a general announcement and redirect to this thread; since this thread will receive the hits we'll have to do some shameless bumping of the announcement thread :), to keep them both visible.

Frank, I hope I can speak for the group in thanking you for taking the lead for the idea of this gift for Joe. It is an inspired gesture from one gentle soul to another, and Joe is most deserving. Thank you kindly.

[JohnL]

I'd be happy to do this either CC or PayPal. How far are we towards the goal now?

[terrafirmanada]

Iv'e been thinking that if we go over, we might just be able to keep an account for joe at popflash. Then if he ever needs anything he can just get it. This would also make it possible for other folks to show appreciation at a later time...

[jja]

I have just visited the popflash site and made a contribution, so please add my name to the list. Thanks to all the organizers of Joe's appreciation gift, and thanks to Joe for all his hard work. Happy MLK Day to all those celebrating today.

[FrankS]

Iv'e been thinking that if we go over, we might just be able to keep an account for joe at popflash. Then if he ever needs anything he can just get it. This would also make it possible for other folks to show appreciation at a later time...

That's a good thought, but we certainly aren't at our primary goal yet. I'm hoping Ray_g and Tony update us in a few hours, say midday, so we know how we're doing.

[fgianni]

So

Are we there yet?

[FrankS]

I'm guessing not yet.

I'm hoping Ray_g and Tony update us in a few hours, say midday, so we know how we're doing.

[MP Guy]

As soon as we get there let me know and I will close this thread.

[pedro.m.reis]

No totals yet?