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back alley
12-30-2005, 13:27
on christmas day, i won a canon 35mm black brightline finder.
i sent off an email to confirm and get the proper shipping costs.

on dec.26 i sent off a postal money and another email confirming that payment was sent and in what form i sent it.

it is now dec 30th and i have received 3 emails from the seller, asking about payment, confirmation of payment and this last one to please hurry and pay!

what a complete pita!

sorry, had to vent a bit at the sheer stupity of it all.

joe

Kyle
12-30-2005, 13:33
I feel your pain. It definately sounds like he's being very impatient. If he agrees to accept payment via mail (in cash, MO, check, etc) he needs to allow appropriate time for that payment to arrive. If he was so desperate for the money right away he should have only accepted PayPal. Once payment arrives, he'll shut up.

ray_g
12-30-2005, 14:25
Obviously has no experience with the Canadian postal service.

If you were looking for a 35mm canon finder, I wish you'd have said something ;)

back alley
12-30-2005, 17:05
ray!!!???

i just got home and in my email...another invoice from him!

crazy *******.
joe

peterc
12-30-2005, 17:29
crazy *******.
Joe, by the middle of the week he'll be leaving you negative feedback. :bang:

Peter

back alley
12-30-2005, 17:40
i can see it now...lol!

ch1
12-30-2005, 18:04
Joe,

If he uses PayPal he's used to immediate payment. Just send him an e-mail indicating that you have posted a MO.

Communication is key.

I have to admit, I only bid on auctions where the seller takes PayPal and I then pay immediately (I'm an impatient buyer!).

When I sell stuff nowadays - it's strictly PayPal only.

A lot of sellers, particularly new ones, are only familiar with PayPal immediacy.

Just tell him: "The check (or MO in this case) is in the mail".

Regards & Happy New Year,
George

back alley
12-30-2005, 18:07
george,

i have sent 3 emails indicating that a money order was the form of payment.
his auction stated it was an acceptable form of payment.

another email from this guy and i officially start to get scared;)

je

ray_g
12-30-2005, 18:12
I remember a seller once posted positive feedback after the sale, and emailed me everyday asking me to post feedback. I emailed him that I will, but if he harasses me again, it would be negative. :mad:

ch1
12-30-2005, 18:13
Hmm.

Sounds like he doesn't read his e-mails! Was the seller a private individual or a commercial dealer? Maybe something is stuck on auto-pilot?

Anyway, save your correspondence in case you get into a p*ssing match and wind up in the dreaded "Dispute Resolution". They require full ISP addressing (most of us set our e-mail accounts for minimal) so check that you can enlarge your saved correspondence for it.

But remember also, it is the holidays and good little postal elves are all "tuckered out" from making all those Santa deliveries. Plus, you've had two 3-day weekends in this period (counting the upcoming holiday).

Most of all, relax. Don't let a stupid eBay purchase stress you out. We love you guy, and want to keep you around for a long long time! :D

ray_g
12-30-2005, 18:13
Joe, you could always email him daily:

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"

Kyle
12-30-2005, 18:31
Joe, you could always email him daily:

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"
I was going to suggest that once he says he received the payment to bug him every day with...

"Where's the finder?"

"Where's the finder?"

"Where's the finder?"

:D

back alley
12-30-2005, 18:34
Joe, you could always email him daily:

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"

"Is it there yet?"


almost fell off my chair!

joe

back alley
12-30-2005, 18:35
I was going to suggest that once he says he received the payment to bug him every day with...

"Where's the finder?"

"Where's the finder?"

"Where's the finder?"

:D

i love this idea!
joe

schmoozit
12-30-2005, 19:04
Joe, he may well not be getting your email becuase of a spam blocking snafu. It seems doubtful as I'd guess you're going through the Ebay correspondence process, but it has happened before. No fun either way.

back alley
12-30-2005, 19:06
i have been sending through ebay.

good thing it was cheap, just in case i never get it.
joe

schmoozit
12-30-2005, 19:20
i have been sending through ebay.

Good. I don't think that's perfect for avoiding spam filters, but it should be close. Your username isn't Cialis, or anything, right?

back alley
12-30-2005, 19:50
Good. I don't think that's perfect for avoiding spam filters, but it should be close. Your username isn't Cialis, or anything, right?


no!

i go by 'free software' on ebay ;)

joe

ch1
12-30-2005, 19:52
Hey Joe,

You could give us the guy's e-mail address and we could all start sending messages:

Where's the finder?

Where's the finder?

Where's the finder?

Kind of like an Arlo Guthrie "movement" kind of thing! :D

How about it?

George

schmoozit
12-30-2005, 20:06
no!

i go by 'free software' on ebay ;)

joe

Ha ha!

.

back alley
12-30-2005, 20:19
Hey Joe,

You could give us the guy's e-mail address and we could all start sending messages:

Where's the finder?

Where's the finder?

Where's the finder?

Kind of like an Arlo Guthrie "movement" kind of thing! :D

How about it?

George

i'll keep it in mind...but i really don't want to instigate you guys!
;)
joe

Frank Granovski
12-30-2005, 21:06
Okay, I'll bite.

Hold your horse, it's coming!
When you receive it you'll see I added a bonus.
All good things come to those who wait.
Really, I did send it!
Ever hear of the Christmas rush? :)

doubs43
12-30-2005, 21:42
Joe, I'm sorry for your troubles. The seller should be more patient. If the seller agrees to accept money orders there's usually a "Pay Now" option that asks how you intend to pay. If you check "Money Order" and then "Next", it will take you to a screen that gives you the seller's address AND TELEPHONE NUMBER!!! See if your auction will do that. It also provides a window for a message and lets the seller know that you intend to pay with a money order.

I won an Elmar lens on the 23rd and let the seller know immediately that I'd be sending a MO either Monday or Tuesday, depending upon the post office. They were closed Monday the 26th (Boxing Day to you chaps) so I sent it Tuesday. I emailed the seller that it was on it's way and he replied that he appreciated the notice. I should hear from him soon that he's gotten it and mailed the lens. I hope. :)

Walker

back alley
12-30-2005, 22:03
just to be clear, i'm not losing sleep over this.

my initial post was just a rant at the absurdity of the situation.
i expect he will figure it out eventually.

joe

smudwhisk
12-31-2005, 03:06
I remember a seller once posted positive feedback after the sale, and emailed me everyday asking me to post feedback. I emailed him that I will, but if he harasses me again, it would be negative. :mad:


I got chased by an ebay seller to leave feedback before he'd even left any for me. He claimed he would leave it once I did so the "transaction could be completed" and chased about 3 times in as many days. Having ignored the early mails, on the third occasion I politely pointed out that I wished to test the camera (a Canon EOS IX SLR body) prior to leaving feedback but since my part of the transaction was completed first (ie. payment) perhaps he would feel free to leave his feedback first. Didn't hear anything from him again!

aterlecki
12-31-2005, 06:54
I got chased by an ebay seller to leave feedback before he'd even left any for me. He claimed he would leave it once I did so the "transaction could be completed" and chased about 3 times in as many days. Having ignored the early mails, on the third occasion I politely pointed out that I wished to test the camera (a Canon EOS IX SLR body) prior to leaving feedback but since my part of the transaction was completed first (ie. payment) perhaps he would feel free to leave his feedback first. Didn't hear anything from him again!
As a seller I would never leave feedback first (nor however would I be pushy with the buyer for feedback). I only consider the buyer's part of the transaction complete (i.e. complete enough for me to leave feedback) only once they had left feedback for me. Payment by the buyer is not necessarily the final part of their involvement, especially if disputes arise over the item that need resolving (e.g the goods might not arrive, might be damaged, or might not match the buyer's expectations). As a seller I would feel vulnerable having left good feedback early if I then had a buyer who started causing unjustified troubles. Should your testing of the camera have revealed a fault then your part of the transaction would not yet be complete as you have to manage a resolution with the buyer. That could be sending it back and being refunded or it could be something else. If you then (and this is purely hypothetical) messed about the seller at this late stage then the troubles you caused would not be reflected in the feedback since it was left purely on the basis of prompt payment.

Yes, ebay is a minefield!!

smudwhisk
12-31-2005, 07:06
As a seller I would never leave feedback first (nor however would I be pushy with the buyer for feedback). I only consider the buyer's part of the transaction complete (i.e. complete enough for me to leave feedback) only once they had left feedback for me. Payment by the buyer is not necessarily the final part of their involvement, especially if disputes arise over the item that need resolving (e.g the goods might not arrive, might be damaged, or might not match the buyer's expectations). As a seller I would feel vulnerable having left good feedback early if I then had a buyer who started causing unjustified troubles. Should your testing of the camera have revealed a fault then your part of the transaction would not yet be complete as you have to manage a resolution with the buyer. That could be sending it back and being refunded or it could be something else. If you then (and this is purely hypothetical) messed about the seller at this late stage then the troubles you caused would not be reflected in the feedback since it was left purely on the basis of prompt payment.

Yes, ebay is a minefield!!



I wouldn't disagree from either side, I both buy (mainly) and sell (occasionally), sometimes I leave feedback straight after payment, sometimes not, it generally depends on what I'm selling. I sold an SLR body, lense and digital camera (all three separate auctions) a few months back and waited for the buyer's to leave feedback that they were happy. One of them never left it. He also chased two days after payment as to where his item was - yet I stipulated in the details it could take up to 3 working days for the item to be sent! Yet, earlier this year I sold some other items (a lot cheaper) and left feedback immediately.

I've had a few problematic items over the last couple of years but always got a refund, however have been reluctant to leave feedback first in case of any retribution from those few sellers who might. I suppose it works both ways.

However, it doesn't help when sellers (or buyers - one of my recent buyers having left feedback started chasing because I hadn't got around to leave him any) start pestering. He got a rather short sharp reply stating it was the christmas holiday season and I'd been busy! I have since left him feedback.

Poptart
12-31-2005, 15:48
Feedback is so high school anyway.

Frank Granovski
12-31-2005, 17:34
I miss highschool. :(

ch1
12-31-2005, 18:40
I miss highschool. :(

You must be younger that I. My aspirations are less ambitious.

There is a great song in the Broadway musical Avenue Q (i.e. the "naughty parody" of Sesame Street) titled: "I wish I could go back to college"

Of course we can't - that's the "PURPOSE"* of the song - but we've all felt that at one point or another! ;)

Happy new year,
George
copake_ham

* "PURPOSE" is a main theme of the story-line. :D

losta
12-31-2005, 19:18
Why don't you send him an email explaining your efforts yet politely saying that with his constant emails you may be forced to give negative feedback.

shutterflower
12-31-2005, 19:56
hopefully the seller is not just working on creating some sort of fake paper trail that will allow them to scam you out of the payment.

Good luck.

ch1
12-31-2005, 20:38
hopefully the seller is not just working on creating some sort of fake paper trail that will allow them to scam you out of the payment.

Good luck.

Another good reason to use your C-Card via PayPal.

Double layer protection.

Recission capability is a wonderful thing!