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50mm is my favourite focal length.
LTM:
black Summicron
col. Summicron
Summitar (on its way soon)
J3 silver
J8 black
I-61
Fed col.
Contax RF:
CZJ f2
CZJ f1.5 (on its way soon)
J8 silver
J8 black
Helios
I like the 50 fl, as well. Somehow, and all of a sudden (literally), I have six—in ltm & M mount—and none slower than f2. As the earlier 'Canon 1.4 vs. 1.5' thread elucidated, you can never have enough 50's.
:)
Jason Sprenger
11-01-2005, 15:54
50's collect in the corners like dust bunnies.
50/2 Summicron Collapsible
50/3.5 Elmar
50/2 Jupiter 8
50/1.5 Jupiter 3
50/2.5 CV Skopar
50/2.8 Industar 61 L/D
50/2.8 Industar 26
It's weird. I have a CV 35/2.5 and a CV 90/3.5. They displaced my Elmar 90/4 and Summaron 35/3.5 and I am not looking around anymore.
But in 50's, I can't settle on one. Even now, a nice Canon 50/1.8 would tempt me, weird filter size and all.
Wayne R. Scott
11-01-2005, 16:10
I've got a
.50 Thompson Center
.50 Remington 700ML
.50 Montana Rifle Works
unless you are talking about camera lens.
then I have
Contax Mount
CZJ f1.5 (2)
J-8 f2.0 black
Canon LTM
1.8 Chrome
1.8 Black
Nikon SLR
1.8 AIS
1.8 Series E
1.4 AI'd
Canon SLR
1.8 FD
1.8FD
Pentax 42mm Screw Mount SLR
1.4 Super Takumar (2)
Olympus SLR
1.8 Zuiko
Bronica ETRS SLR
f2.8 Zenzanon-PE
Plus I have some 55mm f1.8 Pentax Screw mount for Mamiya, 55mm f2.8 Micro AIS in Nikon and 58mm Topcon for a Super D.
One is not enough, I guess. I haven't figured out how to shoot more than two on a camera at the same time, yet.
Wayne
Frank Granovski
11-01-2005, 16:10
Haha, I have the same problem---too many "normals;" and to make matters worse, I just bought another 50mm off e-bay. :bang:
Brian Sweeney
11-01-2005, 16:16
How many '50's is enough?
How many did they make...
back alley
11-01-2005, 16:17
i could understand all this if we were talking about 35mm focal length.
wayne, do you see a difference between the chrome and the black canon 50's?
joe
Haha, I have the same problem---too many "normals;" and to make matters worse, I just bought another 50mm off e-bay. :bang:
Being new to RF, I only just now bought my second Nikkor 5.0cm to make sure both my S2 and R2S are each so equipped.
Meanwhile, back in SLR land, I just got another 50mm Nikkor to do the same and avoid swapping-out b/w the vintage F3 and equally vintage FT-3 that otherwise would have to share the same lens. Heaven forbid!
My guess is that you have to have at least as many 50's as compatible bodies plus one. After all, not only is is a great all-purpose lens - it makes for one heck of a sexy body cap! :cool:
I have four 50's and one each of every other focal length:
Elmar f3.5
Jupiter-8 f2
Elmar-M f2.8
Summilux f1.4
Speaking of 50's, I just shot a roll of film with a 1963 50 1.4 Takumar on a Pentax Spotmatic that I had CLA and refurbished. It was the camera I started in Photography in 1963. The negs are drying but they really look good. I think I forgot how good that 50 1.4 Takumar was.
leo
Wayne R. Scott
11-01-2005, 16:25
Joe,
I like the way the silver looks on the camera better than the black one. I doubt that that is a good way to judge a lens. I have not done a definitive test on them to compare yet. I'll try to compare here in the next couple of weeks.
Wayne
Gabriel M.A.
11-01-2005, 16:32
I have (currently):
LTM/M-mount:
Summar
Summitar
tabbed Summicron
E46 Summilux
Canon 50 f/1.2
Canon FD:
SSC 1.4
SSC 1.2 non-asph
Canon EF:
1.8 Mark-II
1.4
...not including those that were in my posession...
too many? nah.
I'm happy with just 2, one for each body :)
50mm tabbed Cron
50mm Collapsible Cron
Maybe at some point I'll include a collapsible Summitar.
Dave
... and then there's that Summarit!
Wayne: You only have one Zuiko 50? Major tsk tsk! There were at least five versions of the 1.8, three (more?) of the 1.4, and at least two of the 1.2, two iterations of the macro 3.5, and then there is the macro 2.0. I'm not sure if there was more than of the 2.0 macro.
Obviously, you have some pent up GAS. :angel:
Trius
back alley
11-01-2005, 16:39
Joe,
I like the way the silver looks on the camera better than the black one. I doubt that that is a good way to judge a lens. I have not done a definitive test on them to compare yet. I'll try to compare here in the next couple of weeks.
Wayne
i agree, i prefer the look of the chrome lenses over the black.
I dearly want a 50 or even a 65 for my RB67. But yeah, I could make use of a 90. It's strange looking at the world through a 180 all the time. Many people shots I've not been able to get far enough away.
I'm not even a collector and I have ...
J-8 Silver 50/2
J-8 Black 50/2
col Summicron 50/2
Canon 50/1.8 (coming soon)
plus
50/1.4 Zuiko
50/1.8 Zuiko x 2
50/3.5 Zuiko macro (possibly the best lens I own)
Gene
richard_l
11-01-2005, 16:41
RF
50/2 Summicron
50/2.8 Elmar
50/1.5 Summarit
SLR
50/1.8 Nikkor AIS
Gene: You have the right idea! I have 4 Zuiko 50s, but I'm working on more.
Trius
Gene: You have the right idea! I have 4 Zuiko 50s, but I'm working on more.
Trius
I wouldn't mind a good specimen of the 50/1.2 or the 50/2 macro!
Gene
Let N be the number of 50's currently owned. The proper number of 50's that need to be owned is N+1.
I agree. You only really need one (more) 50!
bmattock
11-01-2005, 17:10
LTM:
Canon 50mm f1.8 chrome
Canon 50mm f1.4 black
Industar 50mm f3.5 Yucky
Canon FL:
50mm f1.8
50mm f1.4
50mm f1.4 II
55mm f1.2
55mm f1.2 II
58mm f1.2
Canon FD:
50mm f1.8 SC
50mm f1.8 Marked Bell&Howell
50mm f1.8 New
50mm f1.8 Chrome-Nose
50mm f1.4 Chrome-Nose
50mm f1.4 SSC
Pentax:
55mm f1.8 Super Tak M42
50mm f1.4 Super Multi Tak M42
50mm f1.7 SMC-A P/K Mount
Bronica:
Komura 50mm f3.5 S2 Mount
Braun Super Paxette:
About 20 to 30 various 50mm lenses - they made a lot of them. 39mm screw mount, but not LTM. Just looks like it.
Anscomark M
Xyton 50mm f1.9
I also have an assortment of Vivitar, Yashica, and other Japanese 50's in M42, and a growing collection of German 50mm M42 lenses, including a CZJ Sonnar 58mm f2.
50mm is my favorite focal length too.
I have a box full of recently rediscovered Minolta MD mount lenses and SRT style SLRS. I guess I need to sell 'em. Lots of 50's.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
I agree. You only really need one (more) 50!
I will vote for that!
Collapsible Summicron 50/2
Rigid Summicron 50/2
DR Summicron 50/2
Tabbed Summicron 50/2
Canon 50/1.5
Canon 50/1.8
Canon 50/1.2
Canon 50/1.4
Jupiter 8 50/2
Collapsible Industar 50 50/3.5
Zeiss Opton Sonnar 50/1.5 for CRF
Another CRF Zeiss 50/1.5 I won't meet until Henry is done with it
What else would I want?
Summarit 50/1.5
Summitar 50/2
Nikkor 50/2
CRF Sonnar 50/2
CRF Jupiter 8 50/2
CRF Jupiter 3 50/1.5
I think I will start working on the Elmars in 2007.
You can now add a Summarit to my list. Just bought from Photonet. I'm done!
LTM,
J8 blk (I would love a silver one if anyone's selling/giving one away), I-22, I-26, I-61l/d, Elmar f3.5, Summar f2, Serenar f1.9
Kiev,
J8 silver, Helios 103, CZJ 50/2 & 50/1.5.
SLR's
Y/C 50/2 & 50/1.9, M42's Fujinon 55/1.8 x2 , SMC 55/2, CZJ Tessar 50/2.8, Vivitar 50/1.9, Meyer-Optik 50/2.8, Helios 58/2, I-61n/d. FL 58/1.2, FD 50/1.8, EF 50/1.8, MD/MC mutiples of 50/1.4, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 50/2, 45/2, 55/1.7, T-mount Sigma XQ macro 55/2.8
back alley
11-01-2005, 18:19
i think bill m is the winner, so far!
bmattock
11-01-2005, 18:22
i think bill m is the winner, so far!
Perhaps on numbers, but hardly on quality. Weep for me, I have no 'crons.
back alley
11-01-2005, 18:24
sell some of those 50's and buy one!
;)
Weep for me, I have no 'crons.
I thought you were running Linux :D
Gene
bmattock
11-01-2005, 18:28
I thought you were running Linux :D
Gene
Now *THAT'S* funny! Only a *nix dweeb would get that.
Like me.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
find / -name 'laden' -print
/bin/laden
rm -rf /bin/laden
J8 blk (I would love a silver one if anyone's selling/giving one away)
I'll trade you a silver one for 5 36exp rolls of Neopan 400 or Tri-X...
Gene
Uncle Bill
11-01-2005, 18:33
Well the 50mm normal lens is one of my favourites too
50/2 Summicrpn Collapsable
50/1.4 Canon LTM and adapter
count 'em two Jupiter 8's
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 50/2 ( Christmas Present)
and in SLR world
2- Nikkor 50/1.4 pre AI
2- Takumar 55/1.8 M-42 (ok close enough)
1 Super Tak 50/1.4 M-42
I know in rangefinger land I would be interested in a skopar 50/2.8 to add for the Leica. This is almost worse than collecting bodies
Bill
This has been a busy week, and it's only Tuesday!
New Summitar and Summarit lenses on their way to join my collapsible Summicron and the first black Summicron version.
I'm done! No more.
Gabriel M.A.
11-01-2005, 18:40
I thought you were running Linux :D
LOL -- Well, it pays to be versatile; I don't even run Linux (too commercial); I run FreeBSD... alas, I also run Windoze XP (Xtra Painful)
BTW, it could be a security risk to run crons...
Gabriel M.A.
11-01-2005, 18:42
I'm done! No more.
So...you're still on step 1, eh?
bmattock
11-01-2005, 18:48
So...you're still on step 1, eh?
Hi, I'm Bill (Hi, Bill). I'm a lensaholic. It's been three days since my last bid on eBoy. I think I can do it. But I needs me some more cigs and coffee.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
At this moment, there is no other photographic piece of gear that I can think of that I want. (Well, maybe a Canon 35 f2.8.)
back alley
11-01-2005, 18:50
there's a nice one on ebay now frank, not too high so far.
joe
I love 50's, but I can't match Bill or Rover, but here goes.
LTM:
Industar 50
J8 (black)
Industar 61/LD (55mm)
Nokton 50 1.5
Cooke Amotal 50 f2
SLR:
Canon 50 1.8
Meyer Oreston 50 1.8 (Exacta mount)
Pancolar 50 f2 (Exacta mount)
Zeiss Jena Tessar 50 2.8 (Exacta mount)
SMC Takumar 50 1.4 (42mm)
Takumar 55 mm f2 (42mm)
Helios 44-7 58mm f2 (42mm)
Helios 58mm f2 (2) (39mm)
If 40mm and 35mm are considered normal lenses then:
Helioplan 40mm f4.5 (Exacta mount)
Enna Lithagon 35mm 2.8 (Exacta mount)
Nearly forgot Zeiss Planar G 45mm f2.
I think thats enough or my wife does actually.
Kurt M.
At this moment, there is no other photographic piece of gear that I can think of that I want. (Well, maybe a Canon 35 f2.8.)
I *know* your vision is not limited ... come on ... open up to all the possibilties ...
:D
Gene
Gabriel M.A.
11-01-2005, 18:56
Hi, I'm Bill (Hi, Bill). I'm a lensaholic. It's been three days since my last bid on eBoy. I think I can do it. But I needs me some more cigs and coffee.
Well, shows you how (il)literate I am when it comes to the "Steps". Which one is "Denial"?
Gabriel M.A.
11-01-2005, 19:00
Cooke Amotal 50 f2
I thought I knew about some rather obscure lenses in LTM, but this one is news to me. Info?
bmattock
11-01-2005, 19:00
Well, shows you how (il)literate I am when it comes to the "Steps". Which one is "Denial"?
Steps is the 12-step program for addictions. I think you mean the 5 stages of grief - Elizabeth Kubler-Ross. Denial, anger, bartering, slam-dancing, and acceptance.
bmattock
11-01-2005, 19:02
I thought I knew about some rather obscure lenses in LTM, but this one is news to me. Info?
The brits got up to some loverly stuff when WWII kept them from access to Leitz glass. In the US, we got Wollensak. Sigh. In Britain, Cooke and Ross, maybe some others.
I thought I knew about some rather obscure lenses in LTM, but this one is news to me. Info?
Taylor, Taylor and Hobson Cooke Amotal made in England ca 1950 for another camera which was never manufactured and adapted for LTM with an Italian made mount. An excellent lens for its time whose value is determined by its rarity rather than its current ability. Mine is clear and free of marks.
Kurt M.
bmattock
11-01-2005, 19:13
Taylor, Taylor and Hobson Cooke Amotal made in England ca 1950 for another camera which was never manufactured and adapted for LTM with an Italian made mount. An excellent lens for its time whose value is determined by its rarity rather than its current ability. Mine is clear and free of marks.
Kurt M.
Kurt,
Did not Taylor, et al, make a LTM lens under the "Xenar" imprint during WWII as well?
And I never got it straight - was the 'Cooke' the same 'Cooke' that made the famous soft-focus LF lenses?
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
bmattock
11-01-2005, 19:14
The brits got up to some loverly stuff when WWII kept them from access to Leitz glass. In the US, we got Wollensak. Sigh. In Britain, Cooke and Ross, maybe some others.
Ah, and the Stewartry Trinar as well in LTM. For some really unusual glass.
Bill in answer to your three questions:
1. I don't know
2. Yes the same Cooke, Taylor, Taylor and Hobson actually. They still make lenses for 35mm movie film cameras.
3. Never heard if the Stewartry Trinar but then who knows as much about these things as you?
How do you find the time?
Best regards, Kurt M.
bmattock
11-01-2005, 19:24
Bill in answer to your three questions:
1. I don't know
2. Yes the same Cooke, Taylor, Taylor and Hobson actually. They still make lenses for 35mm movie film cameras.
3. Never heard if the Stewartry Trinar but then who knows as much about these things as you?
How do you find the time?
Best regards, Kurt M.
Kurt, Whoops, I meant the Stewartry Trinol, not Trinar. An English LF lens remounted for LTM during WWII in Scotland. The only LTM lens ever marked 'Made in Scotland' as far as I know.
And thanks, but really, I just drink a lot and mouth off.
And in answer to #3 - Marc James Small seems to know a great deal. I have his book on non-Leica LTM lenses, but it seems to deal mostly with European lenses. There were so many Japanese ones! I wrote to Mssr. Small, he recommended that I write the LTM Japanese book. Sigh.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
answer: when you have enough to sell in exchange for a 28 or 35. :D
I have a Corefield Lumax 45mm f3.5 in LTM, I haven't used it for 30 years but it looks usable....
If anyone wants it send me 30GBP or dollar equivalent + postage.......
North of six Canon FD and Nikon SLR at the last count, plus two Retinas, two Rollei 35, 4 Contaflex, and a Minolta7s (fixed), a Sonnar, 2 J-3's, J-8, and about 3 Industars................what an embarrassing question to ask! I worked it out that it is often cheaper to buy the whole package, rather than buy the lens separately, and they do make nice loupes :). I guess age, today I notched another year; and acquisivity mark their toll. Thank goodness you did not include other format equivalents.
Brian Sweeney
11-02-2005, 02:07
Lens-a-holics?
No.
My name is Brian. I have 10 Nikkor 5cm F1.4 lenses. We'll cover the high-counts next week.
Hello:
I think the answer is one. On the other hand I have 50mms looking for cameras.
yours
Frank
oftheherd
11-02-2005, 04:54
Contax/Yashica SLR
Contax 50 f/1.4 x 2
Yashica 50 f/1.8 x 3
M42 (I think the below is right but I haven't pulled them all out to count)
Fujinon 50 f/1.4 x 1
Fujinon 50 f/1.8 x 1
Fujinon 50 f/3.5 x 1
Yashinon 50 f/1.7 x 1
Yashinon 50 f/1.4 x 1 (unusable on purchase)
Yashinon 50 f/1.9 x 3
Pentax 50 f/1.8(?) x 3
Mamiya breechlock bayonet (Super Press 23, had to have at least one rangefinder, right? :D )
Mamiya 50mm f/6.8
Not counting fixed lens 50s. Maybe around six, including Welta folders and some junkers and/or non users.
I have always liked 50mm lenses. The Contax and Fujinons are among the best around. The Yashinons and Pentaxes are great too.
EDIT: Don't ask how many of these I use on a regular basis.
jtzordon
11-02-2005, 04:56
I've managed to acquire a few, though mostly SLR lenses; I'm new to the whole RF scene.
Minolta MC/MD mount:
55mm 1.7 MC-Rokkor (55 counts, right?)
1.4 MC Rokkor
1.4 MD Rokkor
Minolta AF 1.4 1st gen
Pentax M42 SMC 1.4
J-8 for the Zorki
I think that's it, for now.
Hi,
RF
Canon 50mm f/0.95
Leica Summicron DR
MF
Carl Zeiss Jena 80mm Biometar
Wanted (Gonna buy in the not so near future):
Carl Zeiss Jena or Zeiss Opton 50mm f/1.5 Sonnar (need an adapter)
Voigtlander Prominent Norton (need more adapters...)
Voigtlander Prominent Ultron (as above)
Dreamed (Gonna buy in the very distance future):
M-mount conversion done on the f/0.95 (eastcamtech, as mentioned by Brain or jlw!? Will sell the Canon 7 after that...)
Alpa Kern 50mm f/1.8 Macro Switar (need to find a japanese adapter manufactured by Retina House)
i think bill m is the winner, so far!
I have more for my SLRs, but still not as many as Bill.
okay.. so where's Curt aka wierdcollector?
okay.. so where's Curt aka wierdcollector?
Probably still counting, or typing. Check back tomorrow. :D
back alley
11-02-2005, 06:11
i have one, the canon 50/1.4...
back alley
11-02-2005, 06:20
but i have three 35mm lenses...;)
Well, now I have a J-8, an elmar-m in the shop, and a summicron ltm on the way. Oh, I picked up a fed 50 (why not?) That's not so many.
but i have three 35mm lenses...;)
Is that 'per camera' or ... gasp ... in total ??
Gene
back alley
11-02-2005, 06:51
Is that 'per camera' or ... gasp ... in total ??
Gene
in total, one for each canon p :)
I've got 4 Summitars..........
Wait ... we're counting normals that are not exactly 50mm? And we're counting fixed-lens samples too, right?
So there's 2x 42/1.7 on the Oly SPs, the 40 on the RC, the 48 on the Minolta 7s, the 42 (I think) on the Olympus Electro Eye (or whatever it's called ... it's in pieces right now) ... does the 38mm on the Konica C35 count? Nah. And certainly not the 35mm on the XAs ... but Joe's counting 35s, so ...
Ooops, forgot the Steinheil 50/2.8 Steinheil Cassar on the Tower 51.
See how I consider 50 to be a bit of a telephoto, and 35-40mm is closer to "normal" for me, this is pretty depressing. How will I ever achieve balance? Hmmmm.
Trius
How will I ever achieve balance? Hmmmm.
Trius
Hold one in each hand and the others evenly distributed in your pockets :cool:
back alley
11-02-2005, 07:27
Hold one in each hand and the others evenly distributed in your pockets :cool:
groan...
:)
Well, if i hadn't said it, - you would've
back alley
11-02-2005, 07:39
perhaps...;)
:)
Benjamin Marks
11-02-2005, 07:41
How many is enough? 23. Not that I have 23. But 23 should do it.
;-) Ben
How many is enough? 23. Not that I have 23. But 23 should do it.
;-) Ben
I will let you know when I get there. :eek:
An old friend of mine, recently deceased, when the family went through his stuff had over 300, and that was just the leica 50's.
All the decades I knew him, he kept saying, "shushhh, ! - don't tell the wife !!!!!
300 x anaverage of $250. brings a smile to the face of a widow
Yeah, and they were all on Leica bodies !
300 x $800 :) :) :)
Finally he makes his wife happy.
Well, I don't know that they were ALL worth $800............
One or two of 'em were worth about $10,000.............
Robin Harrison
11-02-2005, 08:16
Yeah, and they were all on Leica bodies !
Seriously? He kept 250 cameras secret from his wife?
Getouttahere!
Hold one in each hand and the others evenly distributed in your pockets :cool:
I can just hear Frank, Gene et al when they meet me at the Toronto meet...
"Hi, Trius ... is that a 50 or are you just glad to see us?"
Trius, planning to wear cargo pants AND a photo vest.
Seriously? He kept 250 cameras secret from his wife?
Getouttahere!
Yep !, and that was just the Leicas, he had nikon as well but mostly reflex.....
She thought his hobby was steam trains.........!
She thought his hobby was steam trains.........!
Well, he had a few of them as well......compared to the steam trains the Leicas were easy to hide.......!
Robin Harrison
11-02-2005, 08:34
Yep !, and that was just the Leicas, he had nikon as well but mostly reflex.....
She thought his hobby was steam trains.........!
Well if she's looking for something to do with those cameras, there are plenty of RFF homes waiting.... :)
Two hundred and fifty. I had to spell that out to make sure it was right. :eek:
Yep !, and that was just the Leicas, he had nikon as well but mostly reflex.....
She thought his hobby was steam trains.........!
What... the full size ones? After you buy your own train, everything else is peanuts :D
What... the full size ones? After you buy your own train, everything else is peanuts :D
And you have lots of nooks and crannies in which to hide cameras!
Trius
250 Leicas hidden from a wife who thought he collected Steam trains. This is one of the most entertaining exchanges in recent memory :) :)
Why so many 50's ? Just get the best one you can get and move on to the other focal lenghts... Wow this RF-craze is definitely worlds apart from the DSLR craze..
If you count 55mm, 45mm, & 47mm among the "50's," I have over 60 in a variety of mounts, mostly Zeiss Ikon Contax RF & LTM. Not all of them are in shooting condition, of course . . .
Mini steam trains are neat... this is not a model railway that fits on a table, but actually working steam trains about 1/10th scale. Actually pulls passengers. I'll post a few shots I took of a local club a few months ago when I get home.
Why so many 50's ? Just get the best one you can get and move on to the other focal lenghts... Wow this RF-craze is definitely worlds apart from the DSLR craze..
"Best" is not only about sharpness. There are nuances of "look".
And yes, I agree, the RF craze IS worlds apart from the DSLR craze! DSLR's are all about newest and greatest which is only transient. RF's are about feel and quality, where a 1960's body or lens is "better" than a modern one.
Brian Sweeney
11-02-2005, 14:19
Yes! All you people only need one 50mm lens!
Why are you hoarding them???
Send them to me. I'm a Collector...
DSLR's are all about newest and greatest which is only transient. RF's are about feel and quality, where a 1960's body or lens is "better" than a modern one.
No so true. That comment can only apply to camera bodies. Good SLR lenses are timeless.
Brian Sweeney
11-02-2005, 15:03
> Good SLR lenses are timeless.
The metal ones are timeless. The "polycarbonate wonders" have a limited number of mount/dismount cycles before they wear out.
> Good SLR lenses are timeless.
The metal ones are timeless. The "polycarbonate wonders" have a limited number of mount/dismount cycles before they wear out.
like I said... "good SLR lenses" The Canon L series, for example... not all metal ones are timeless. Only >=good SLR lenses are timeless.
I consider many classic RF bodies to be timeless. Still working well after 50 years and good for another 50 after a CLA. This is certainly not true of any DSLR body which is obsolete in 7 years.
Used L lenses are more expensive than icky old 50mm RF lenses.
There are some (many actually) RF lenses that I think are timeless as well. A collapsible 50mm Summicron and Summitar, and a Summarit. A Canon 50 f1.5, and an uncoated Zeiss Sonnar for the Contax (another timeless body). You can't get a modern lens to give you the look that they provide.
But again, to each his own. Different strokes... Live and let live.
brightsky
11-02-2005, 16:32
I love this thread. It has permanently erased any twinge of guilt I felt over having two 50's.
'67 Summilux
Current Cron
I can't stop thinking about a Noctilux....... and I know they're expensive and heavy, but.....
richard_l
11-02-2005, 17:43
And yes, I agree, the RF craze IS worlds apart from the DSLR craze! DSLR's are all about newest and greatest which is only transient. RF's are about feel and quality, where a 1960's body or lens is "better" than a modern one.However, there are still a lot of RF fans who would rather have a recent Skopar 35mm lens than a fine old Summaron for the same price (and speed and condition). I think that's a symptom of the "latest and greatest" mindset in our midst here at RFF. However, it's good in a way because it allows more of the fine classic equipment to be available for those of us who really appreciate it. :D
This is definitely a diseased discussion... It caused me to check on what I had in the way of 50mm lenses...
50mm f/1.4 SMC Takumar M42 (two)
50mm f/1.4 SMC Pentax K (two)
50mm f/1.7 SMC Pentax K
50mm f/1.8 Zuiko OM
50mm f/2.0 Jupiter-8 (two, one marked Zeiss Sonnar)
50mm f/2.5 Color Skopar
50mm f/2.8 SMC Macro Pentax K
50mm f/4.0 SMC Macro Takumar M42
50mm f/4.5 Leitz Focotar
how about a zoom?
50-90 f/3.5 Zuiko (Pen)
Do 55mm lenses fall into the same category?
55mm f/1.8 Auto-Takumar M42 (two, one semi-auto, the other full auto diaphragm)
55mm f/2.2 Auto-Takumar M42
55mm f/4.0 SMC Takumar 6x7 (well, err..)
And doesn't this also open the door to 45's?
45mm f/2.0 Planar G
45mm f/4.0 Bronica Zenzanon
45mm f/4.0 Takumar 6x7
and
43mm f/1.9 SMC Pentax-L in M39
wlewisiii
11-02-2005, 22:01
I only have a very small number of 50's - a CZJ prewar collapsible 50/2, several Jupiter 8's, a couple of I-61L/D's, and a (SLR/FD) Canon 50/1.8. These are irrelevant as far as it goes these days.
I like the 50's I have. I just need someone willing to trade my 85/2 for a 35/2.8... :(
William
RJBender
11-04-2005, 09:15
How about 50mm lenses that have serial numbers beginning with 50? Do you get bonus points for having any of those?
R.J.
How about 50mm lenses that have serial numbers beginning with 50? Do you get bonus points for having any of those?
R.J.
No, R.J. That is just silly. This is simply a transparent effort to boost your post count! :)
How about 50mm lenses that have serial numbers beginning with 50? Do you get bonus points for having any of those?
R.J.
Now I am going to have to check mine. ;)
RJBender
11-04-2005, 09:23
No, R.J. That is just silly. This is simply a transparent effort to boost your post count! :)
No, it really isn't
RJBender
11-04-2005, 09:25
Frank! I know I lost a fe
RJBender
11-04-2005, 09:26
w last night. I have heard that collectors in Japan pay particular attention to serial numbers. ;)
R.J.
edlaurpic
11-09-2005, 10:35
I have way too many 50's myself (ten), but I still need (want) another one - either an old black summilux or an old black summicron in M mount with the focusing ring that is fluted or scalloped, not just ribbed. Focusing tab optional. I might do some trading for the right lens. COndition of the metal is not important, but optics must be flawless.
Ed
edlaurpic
11-09-2005, 10:38
PS, please email me at edfdad@gmail.com if you have a 50 such as a black rigid summicron or other lens as described above you want to sell or trade.
Ed
I only have 1, a new model 2.8 50mm elmar.
I want to get an old uncoated 3.5 Elmar... does this make sense ?
I like this "film noir" look
I only have a very small number of 50's - a CZJ prewar collapsible 50/2, several Jupiter 8's, a couple of I-61L/D's, and a (SLR/FD) Canon 50/1.8. These are irrelevant as far as it goes these days.
I like the 50's I have. I just need someone willing to trade my 85/2 for a 35/2.8... :(
William
William: Is your CZJ 50/2 in LTM or for the Conatx?
William: Is your CZJ 50/2 in LTM or for the Conatx?
Will,
I got a 1964 Jupiter 12, with the plastic case & certiciate in russian (QC?).
You want to PM me?
Cheers
Will
Brian Sweeney
11-10-2005, 01:24
> Originally Posted by RJBender
> How about 50mm lenses that have serial numbers beginning with 50? Do you get bonus points for having any of those?
> No, R.J. That is just silly. This is simply a transparent effort to boost your post count!
I have one. The original batch of Nikkor 5cm F1.4's used a date code for Serial Number. Came out in 1950. May. 5005xxxx
EXTRA CREDIT!!!!
4,000th Post. I'll use it for Nikon Factoids.
RJBender
11-10-2005, 05:17
> Originally Posted by RJBender
> How about 50mm lenses that have serial numbers beginning with 50? Do you get bonus points for having any of those?
> No, R.J. That is just silly. This is simply a transparent effort to boost your post count!
I have one. The original batch of Nikkor 5cm F1.4's used a date code for Serial Number. Came out in 1950. May. 5005xxxx
EXTRA CREDIT!!!!
4,000th Post. I'll use it for Nikon Factoids.
Nikon Factoids? :confused: Are they minty? :p
This is my 444 th post. I didn't hear any bells, whistles or laugh tracks... maybe when I get to 1,000? :confused:
R.J.
ErnestoJL
11-10-2005, 06:24
Nice question to make!!
It makes me think why should I get some "new" 50 mm, and it makes sense... and I found the answer: Just because they were made and all lense have something special, be it either collectibles or not. Note that for "50 mm" I include all lenses from 42 to 58 mm ...
My count:
SLR Lenses
Meyer Oreston 1.8 50 mm (2) M42
Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8 50 mm M42
Carenar 1.7 50 mm M42
Auto Miranda 1.8 50 mm Miranda Mount
Helios 44 MC 2 58 mm M42
RF Lenses
Jupiter 8 2 50 mm Contax/Kiev Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8 50 mm Collapsible Contax Mount (Pre war)
RF lenses (with a permanently fitted camera behind)
Canon 1.7 45 mm (Canonet QL17)
Color Yashinon DX 1.7 45 mm (YE35 GT & GSN)
Yashinon DX 2.8 45 mm (MG1)
Yashinon DX 1.4 45 mm (Lynx 14)
Mamiya Sekor 1.5 48 mm (Mamiya Super Deluxe)
Voigtländer Lanthar 2.8 so mm (Vitoret DR)
Meritar 2.8 42 mm (Beirette Electronic)
RF lenses I NEED (and I´ll buy when money is available)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 1.5 50 mm in Contax mount (2) (Pre war)
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2 50 mm in Contax mount (1)
or
Jupiter 3 1.5 50 mm Contax/Kiev mount (2)
Jupiter 8 2 50 mm Contax/Kiev mount (1)
Note: this last is just another serious GAS attack.
Hmm, serial numbers and focal lengths... It does seem nifty for a 50mm lens to have a serial number starting with 50. I don't have one, but I have an 85mm that starts with 50, and one of my 50's begins with 25, while a 100mm starts with 200... Numerology? :)
terrafirmanada
11-10-2005, 09:08
This fits into my frame of mind for today. I have been considering getting a Summitar and I am wondering if I should get a coated or uncoated version. I shoot b&w 99 percent of the time, and love a classic look. The only 50 I have right now is on my new Focomat 1c (arrived yesterday).
My Summitar arrived today with 3 filters and the proper Summitar hood. Think I'll use the normal Summicron hood instead though. This lens is just as clean as the one I walked away from a short while ago. This one is also coated.
Now I'm just waiting for a Summarit from Australia.
Someone commented that RFF is becoming more geared to photo gear collecting than to photography, but as one of the main culprits (I suppose) I disagree. The deeper you get into photography, the more finicky/fine-tuned/informed your tastes/wants become. I'm searching for vintage looking results, not caring for the modern clinical look of today's lenses, hence these acquisitions. As for camera bodies, I slowly gravitated towards classic gear as well, appreciating the heft and feel. When I was just starting out in RF photography, all I knew was Canon GIIIQL.
RJBender
11-14-2005, 19:14
... As for camera bodies, I slowly gravitated towards classic gear as well, appreciating the heft and feel. When I was just starting out in RF photography, all I knew was Canon GIIIQL.
Frank, do you have a Koni Omega yet? :D
R.J.
Hi Frank,
50mm is my absolute favorite! I have a Summar, Summitar, Summarit, Elmar (current version) and at last a Carl Zeiss Sonnar is the next on my list :D
For some shots looks my website (http://markohehl.macbay.de) or my blog (http://www.50mm.de.vu)
thats crazy or ??!!!
I have quite a few 50mm lenses and I also am trying to find the lenses that give me certain looks in photos. I certainly am appreciating my Summar, which was one of the last 50mm lenses added to my reservoir.
Raid
benjaminlr
07-14-2006, 06:52
I only have one 50 per system
Leica M Summicron Rigid 1 50/2
Zeiss Flektogon 50/4
Minolta MD 50/1.4
Minolta A 50/1.7
and it's already 4 of them
visiondr
07-14-2006, 07:26
I have two current model Leica 50s; Summicron-M and the Elmar-M. These are the only lenses I have. I seem to gravitate toward the angle of view and perspective provided by this focal length. However, I am somewhat GASeous with respect to the speed and bokeh of a Noctilux or Summilux. I am planning to sell the Summicron and put the proceeds toward either of these two faster lenses. The Elmar, combined with a fast alternative would make a nice pair.
Ron
Interesting to note that of the ltm's, few have slow collapsible ones like the I-22 and rare I-50. These old FSU ones give a special look to photos like those they were taken in the 50s. They may lack the speed, sharpness and contrast of more modern 50s, but may make up for it in character.
Check the classifieds... ;)
The Nikkor 50/2, Canon 50/1.5, Jupiter 8 and 3.5 Elmar also have that "old fashioned" look.
I have not tried any of those 3, but do want a J-8 as it seems like a bargain. Those other 2 sound pricey relative to FSU slow collapsibles.
The Nikkor 50/2, Canon 50/1.5, Jupiter 8 and 3.5 Elmar also have that "old fashioned" look too.
I have these 50mm lenses in LTM:
Summicron rigid
Summicron collapsible
Elmar 50/3.5
Summar
Zeiss Sonnar
Nikkor 50/2
Canon 50/1.2
Canon 50/18
Canon 50/2.8
J-3
J-8
I-61L
I use them all here and there, but the Nikkor and the Summicrons are used the most. The Elmar and the Zeiss have an old look to them and so does the Summar.
Raid
with that big of a collection, you might as well "collect them all" and get the I-22, I-50, etc.
I have these 50mm lenses in LTM:
Summicron rigid
Summicron collapsible
Elmar 50/3.5
Summar
Zeiss Sonnar
Nikkor 50/2
Canon 50/1.2
Canon 50/18
Canon 50/2.8
J-3
J-8
I-61L
I use them all here and there, but the Nikkor and the Summicrons are used the most. The Elmar and the Zeiss have an old look to them and so does the Summar.
Raid
So really what you are all saying is:
50mm = Crack
I bought my M4 back in 1968 with a dual range 50 Summicron. I shot two or three rolls through it and my father gave me a 2.8 35 Summaron. I still have the M4, the Summaron is still on it, and the 50 is still in its original bubble and hasn't been used since, NOT EVEN ONCE!
I bought my M4 back in 1968 with a dual range 50 Summicron. I shot two or three rolls through it and my father gave me a 2.8 35 Summaron. I still have the M4, the Summaron is still on it, and the 50 is still in its original bubble and hasn't been used since, NOT EVEN ONCE!
Let me know ify ou will sell the lens one day.
Regards,
Raid
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