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FrankS
09-12-2004, 14:42
Got any photos to share which rely on a wide angle perspecive to be successful? Here's one of my dog Buddy done with a digital camera, but it's got a viewfinder too:

That Guy
09-12-2004, 17:12
The only other way to take this shot is to stand about 1/4 mile from the stadium. I think it works okay like this.

Voigt Bessa R, 15mm Heliar

Kris
09-12-2004, 17:32
Does this photo have the wide angle look? Try to guess which focal length I used to take the shot.

rover
09-12-2004, 17:39
I bet that is a 50mm Kris.

Kris
09-12-2004, 17:47
DOH! Is it that obvious Rover? I always think this shot has a 28mm look to it. :bang:

Doug
09-12-2004, 20:50
Uncropped 15mm

rover
09-13-2004, 02:45
Originally posted by Kris
DOH! Is it that obvious Rover? I always think this shot has a 28mm look to it. :bang:

Not that obvious, no, but I know your love of the 50mm so I just figured.

Pherdinand
09-13-2004, 04:00
Kris: to me the size of the good old Sun says it all. If you want to "cheat" like this, you shouldn't include stuff which are always the same size, the same distance:)

Pherdinand
09-13-2004, 04:03
By the way, (after a short hate-period) i love my 17mm. And, lately, my 24mm too. But they are for SLR, so they don't qualify. :(
So i won't upload them...but hey, i can give a .link (http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1484317&size=lg) or two (http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1480694&size=lg) :)
Or, even three (http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1205196&size=lg) .
Nice photos, guys!

Biber
09-13-2004, 04:31
17mm, non-rf.

rover
09-18-2004, 11:01
CV 21 Color Skopar, slightly cropped on the left.

Brian Sweeney
09-18-2004, 16:09
You can't do this with anything but a wide-angle lens. This one is home-made by adapting some of the elements from a bizarre 12mm f2 lens to my Nikkor-UD 20mm F3.5. Talen with my F2AS.

LionFlyer
11-11-2004, 19:16
Whiskers perched on my knee. Usually within 30 seconds of my arrival home from work. Just no other way than wide angle to get this shot. None of my range finders, which all have fixed normal lenses, could cut it here. 20mm Nikkor f/2.8 on Nikon N80. Bounce flash off of ceiling. Lab scanned during processing.

oftheherd
11-11-2004, 21:50
This may not be so obvious as it was a 65mm which on a 6x7 is about the same as a 28mm on 35mm. But is was the widest I had at the time, and due to the location, wide was necessary to get anything. This was in Clarksville, TN, taken with a Mamiya Super Press 23, about 1983 or so. Sorry about the scan. My older scanner and I never really got along well with each other. I am already better friends with the Epson 3870. This is one I hope to redo in the not to distant future.

BTW, if I don't do the attachment right, the photo is at http://www.phototalk.net/photos/data/500/400millpondclarksville.jpg

Believe it or not, most people immediately turn this photo upside down when handed it to view. :(

Marc Jutras
11-11-2004, 22:10
Check my gallery for my latest picturse with my new CV 15/4.5.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/427

StuartR
11-11-2004, 23:46
The bridgepost was just about a meter from me -- CV 15mm.

sfaust
11-12-2004, 04:01
Nce shot Stuart

peter_n
11-12-2004, 04:31
I like it too. I like yours as well, oftheherd. Very subtle color and I really like the composition with the building clipped at the top.

I'll bet people turn it upside-down because the full building in in the reflection...

Designer
11-12-2004, 06:47
I like yours as well! StuartR.

Jacob
11-12-2004, 07:10
I had longed for a wide angle for some time, but when I got my new Bessa L with the 25/4 I got rather puzzled. The shots got rather messy with a lot of small people far away and table top corners that pointed rather threatening at the viewer. Slowly I am getting used to the lens. I've found a nice "wide angle role model", the french fashion (and girl-) photographer Jeanloup Sieff (see http://www.jeanloup-sieff.com/photographs.htm).

StuartR
11-12-2004, 08:03
Thanks guys. Lots of great shots in this thread. Doug, I am a big fan of your shot!

michael
11-12-2004, 09:09
Here's one at Durham train station that depends *entirely*, but *entirely* on being shot with a 21mm (CV Color Skopar). Whether this is successful is another question.

Doug
11-12-2004, 10:17
Michael, I think it is very successful. I'm glad you didn't chop the bottom of the post that almost divides the picture. That area along the bottom gives the only real connection between the two sides proving they are indeed in the same universe. Well, maybe the red stripes could be seen as a conflicting sign of equivalency between them...

The steep perspective on the left gives the train a sense of dynamic speed. By contrast the darker, less colorful right side has much less perspective effect... It's static, and the seated figure emphasizes that. I think it works very well to give that train station feeling!

GeneW
11-12-2004, 10:49
This is one taken on Canada Day with RF and CV 21/4

StuartR
11-12-2004, 12:37
Gene -- Very cool, eh.

I figured I would post another. I always wished I was taller (I am 5'5"), and this photo makes me look that way!

oftheherd
11-12-2004, 13:03
Originally posted by peter_n
I like it too. I like yours as well, oftheherd. Very subtle color and I really like the composition with the building clipped at the top.

I'll bet people turn it upside-down because the full building in in the reflection...

Thanks for your comments on mine Peter. I had been looking at that for some time and knew I not only wanted it, but wanted it on 6x7. When I got there and got the owner's permission, I discovered that it wasn't going to be just an easy straight shot.

This was the best I could get and I liked it at that. Wish I had had the 50mm then, but as I said, I really liked this image once I realized I was going to have to do something different than I had first thought. People always turn it upside down for sure, just as you said.

After I explain it, some approve and like the unusual aspect, others just quickly turn to the next photo. :rolleyes:

SRMC
11-14-2004, 08:51
On a recent trip to New Jersey I had around 3 free hours which I spent wandering around Times Square. This is the interior of St. Patrick's Cathedra. This was taken with a Bessa R and 25mm skopar, handheld wide open at 1/30, w/ Kodak UC 400. Please pardon the poor scan.

erudolph
11-14-2004, 12:03
Taken with a Mamiya 6, 50mm lens. The crowd is watching the judging at the local pet parade on Halloween day.

peter_n
11-14-2004, 13:58
Wow. I do like this Manolo. No distortion and even a bit of OOF with the wide open 15mm! :) Was the end of the lens about an inch away from her nose? ;)

digitalox
11-14-2004, 15:50
Very Nice portrait Manolo. Welcome to the RFF.

peter_n
11-14-2004, 16:53
Another good one Manolo. You going to upload some shots into your gallery?

And welcome! :D

FrankS
11-14-2004, 17:02
I really like that subway train photo (as well as the portrait under a tree.) It's cool the way the part of the train closer to the edge of the frame records as streakier than the central somewhat sharper train interior (which hasn't moved as much sideways to the film and is therefore less blurred.)

hoppinghippos
11-14-2004, 19:06
wow those are reallynice shots manolo!! welcome to RFF btw!

Pherdinand
11-15-2004, 08:03
These pics look especially impressive/interesting if you stick your nose as close to them as possible - the WA perspective snaps into place and you really feel you are in the scene. E.G. with the shot of the girl by Manolo, i have the feeling my nose is touching her nose :)

Now i have to clean my monitor again.

sfaust
11-15-2004, 08:23
I like all the shots except the portrait. I find the size of her head in relationship to the size of her neck and body just destroys it for me. To me, the distortion is too much for a portrait unless there is a obvious reason to do so (such as humor, etc). When I look at the portrait, all I can see is this huge head on a little body. Maybe its just the dark shirt with the lighter blotch since if I cover up the blotch, its still there, but not as bad.

I really like the last shot of the train. You can see the people inside the first car. Cool effect.

Doug
11-15-2004, 12:23
I think Pherdinand is exactly right, that the perspective becomes "normal" at very close viewing distance. Must be proportional to the camera-subject distance; put your eye where the camera lens was and it should look normal again.

In the same way, the "compressed" telephoto look comes from the camera being far from the subject... so when viewed far from the print, the perspective becomes "normal."

This is something I think should be taken into consideration in presenting photos for viewing. Large prints with the viewer forced at close distance for wide-angle shots, etc.

michael
11-15-2004, 13:53
I don't know whether this would go better in the 'sprawl' thread or the wide angle. But the UK just doesn't manage to do sprawl in the way we do in the States. So here is another wide angle, Bessa R2 w. CV 21mm Color Skopar. Late at a local temple of consumption, where only a hot credit card can keep you warm:

Jacob
11-15-2004, 23:49
The pic i attached to my earlier reply must have fallen off over (or under) the Atlantic. Here is the cosiness of a department store captured with my CV 25/4, one of few keepers from the first rolls with my new Bessa L.

FrankS
11-16-2004, 04:36
Great shot Jacob. I'm sure I would have heard the sarcasm in your vioce if I heard you say, "... the coziness of a department store..." because the image is very impersonal, clinical, as though the store were a factory "processing" the small human figures visible but dwarfed by the escalator machinary. Well done!

peter_n
11-16-2004, 05:06
And Frank I really like the one of Buddy that kicked this thread off. Very appealing! :)

Jacob
11-16-2004, 05:50
Thanks for Your comment, Frank.

You are right about the sarcasm in my voice, and at the same time wrong. Sometimes I do find it kind of cozy in shopping-malls, airports or department stores. In some way I appreciate the controlled, impersonally designed environment all though I know it is only made to make me spend my money. It makes me feel anonymous and alienated in a good way, until I feel I have to run home to my family and friends (and cameras) for some "quality" life. I find it a little bit strange that I see so few photos of these very common places, ugly or beautiful, where we spend a lot of our time. The "sprawl"-thread here is rather interesting in that sense.

Doug
11-16-2004, 10:25
Nifty, Jacob! There's just something intriguing about escalators...