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back alley
09-07-2004, 20:06
i want one for the 'p' but i can't find one.
are any of you photo gurus aware of a grip made for or one that would fit on my 'p'?
my eyes are hurtin' from all the net searchin' i been doin'!
(ok, i'll start using g again now)
joe
Joe, check www.photoequip.net
I don't remember the name of the person I talked to there (must check my inbox) but he was really helpful. By sending them a sketch of the different views of the camera body with measurings (mainly regarding the location of the tripod socket) they will be able to tell you if their Leica M grip fits the P.
If not, another option is... build it yourself using plain ol' wood, for example :)
I need some coffee now, I'm falling asleep and I'm sure users will start calling with problems very soon :eek:
Makes me remember that cop movie, don't remember its title, where they said 'see that phone ? when it rings, it means problems'.
arg.
Ok, time for a bump.
I was tampering a bit with the bits box yesterday and took off the 'grip' piece from a dead Minolta XG-M, not bad but still the piece should be attached in some way and in fact it doesn't provide a big enough frontal grip for my taste.
Obviously the easiest way would be to adapt another grip. The Leica M ones looks close, so if somebody owns both cameras (Leica M and Canon P/7) and one grip and could try and let us know...
Anyway, I'll mail the guys at photoequip with a diagram of the P baseplate and cross my fingers...
back alley
01-30-2005, 13:15
oscar,
i've never given up the hunt.
what we need is someone with some woodworking skills to 'create' a couple for us.
yeah, nice smooth wood, with maybe red leather attached to it...
joe
You could also try "I Yoon" at inoyoon2002@yahoo.com. He makes custom handgrips for the Pentax 67 from aluminum and wood, and is located in a place called Fresh Meadows, New York. Maybe he makes other grips as well, and/or could be interested in doing one for the Canon.
back alley
01-30-2005, 15:49
i'll send him a note.
thanks doug!
joe
Joe,
If you are interested in a grip/handle, check out Stephen Gandy's site (cameraquest.com). Cosina/Voigtlander makes a couple of styles that screw into the tripod hole. Chuck
back alley
01-30-2005, 17:21
are you thinking about the handle ones that are below the camera? (like the bulb)
not my style.
i'm thinking about a side grip like the bessa one.
joe
back alley
01-30-2005, 18:33
might be too simple of a job for him.;)
might be too simple of a job for him.;)
Hehe, could be indeed ! :) Doug thanks for the note !
Brian Sweeney
01-31-2005, 02:48
Joe,
Have you seen the Grip-bubble-level thing that screws into the tripod socket that Canon made original to the L1? If not, I can post a picture of it.
back alley
01-31-2005, 04:48
yes i have and have considered getting one to see if it could be adapted.
it looks kinda big & heavy though so i have put it off.
wish i was a handy kind of guy though.
joe
Maybe we could woodwork this
http://www.photo.net/equipment/leica/rapidgrip/
back alley
01-31-2005, 09:05
110 bucks !
too pricy for my budget.
it does look very nice though.
joe
back alley
01-31-2005, 14:30
You could also try "I Yoon" at inoyoon2002@yahoo.com. He makes custom handgrips for the Pentax 67 from aluminum and wood, and is located in a place called Fresh Meadows, New York. Maybe he makes other grips as well, and/or could be interested in doing one for the Canon.
got a reply on today's email...
Hello,
Sorry, I do not have that model canon camera to work from.
So far I have custom designed grips for the Pentax 67 and Leica M model.
Thank you for your interest,
Ino
i guess i could send him one of the 'P's...
joe
ooh, wouldn't hurt to offer!
back alley
01-31-2005, 14:58
i think it would hurt...me!
joe
I don't see any of his auctions on eBay now, either current or completed. Seller name on eBay is "Inoyoon"... Maybe he's not selling his grips that way any more?
back alley
01-31-2005, 16:37
ah doug...you didn't read the whole thread, didya doug? ;);):)
joe
Joe,
Have you seen the Grip-bubble-level thing that screws into the tripod socket that Canon made original to the L1? If not, I can post a picture of it.
I don't know what they made for the L1, but the 'Camera Holder V' accessory I have (for V and VI models) wouldn't work with the P -- the casting is the right size to hold the body, but the holder's tripod screw is at the wrong end vs. the camera's tripod socket.
Maybe they made a different model for the P, but I'm not sure this would make a good handgrip anyway -- it's not very hand-friendly, since it was made for improving the balance of a tripod-mounted camera and has angular square protrusions sticking out where the tripod "foot" attaches to the main body of the holder.
However, the P would be a good candidate for a DIY grip since (unlike the V and VI) the tripod socket is on the advance-lever end; assuming you want a right-hand grip, you probably could haggle one together out of a piece of hardware-store "mending plate" (metal strip for the base) and a length of hardwood dowel (for the grip handle.) Cut the mending plate to length, file the ends to match the contours of the camera body and the dowel, drill two 5/16" holes in it, line it with some cork, screw the dowel to one end via one hole, and run a spare case-attaching screw through the other hole to secure it to the camera body.
Of course, the result would be unbelievably, hideously ugly -- at least it would if I made it, everything I make turns out that way -- but it would give you a better grip and provide valuable theft protection... at least from other RFF members, who would run screaming at the sight of the ghastly thing you had grafted onto your once-elegant P!
Well, one of the new silver M grips from Eric Paulsen at www.photoequip.net is coming this way :) Eric told me the grip could probably fit the P and only need small adjustment to fill the loose space (the Leica M base is wider). He even sent me the parcel via Fedex at no additional cost ! There's a full refund warranty if it doesn't fit, so I'm only risking shipping costs.
http://users.bhi.com/ericpaulsen/ebChmM.JPG
Also, I ordered what seemed to be their last NF grip to use it with Brian's F2, but this is SLR :D
I'll let you all know how the P grip story ends... :rolleyes:
Looks pretty good, Oscar... Nice touch to put the grip's own tripod mounting spot at the lens centerline.
back alley
02-22-2005, 18:10
did the grip show up yet oscar?
i'm curious to see if it fits and then to figure out how i can afford a couple of them.
joe
Hehe, indeed they arrived in 3 days to Spain ! :)
But they are still stopped at customs ! :mad:
I called them, and probably I'll have to pay 20 euros or so as custom fees, it was great from Eric to send them the faster way possible but this proves that it's USPS or nothing.
I'm expecting delivery soon, maybe today, maybe tomorrow afternoon.
Sniff...
back alley
02-23-2005, 04:44
ya gotta love government!
joe
ditto !! :mad:
Well but at least seems it has left from Madrid so I guess it will be here soon, hopefully tomorrow...
I'll keep you posted.
May I add a link to a picture of mine in the gallery...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/7610/sort/1/cat/500/page/1
Roman
^^^ :D :D Customs office: don't worry, we'll only get some bloo... er... cash from you.
Well, after a quick call, the fedex parcel is already at home, in the end, 28 euros for customs on a less than 100 euros purchase, yeah, gotta love the government !
Monetary pains aside, I'll keep you posted as how (or if) they fit the P and the (heresy!) Nikon F2.
Yeeeees man !
Joe, start preparing some bucks, the Photo Equip (http://www.photoequip.net) new Leica-M grip fits both the Canon P and 7 almost perfectly! There's only a slight difference in the baseplate width that makes the grip move just a bit back and forth, but it's a LOT less than what I expected, probably around 1 mm or so of difference in the center and around 2-3mm in the corner (the handle is a bit more separated than it would be on a M, I guess) so if you adjust it firmly enough it won't move at all, so it's completely useable without any adjustment !
And if you prefer to fill the small gap, just some cardboard or thin plastic shim will do. The silver one looks beautiful on the P (damn I don't have a proper digital P&S) so I'm glad Eric only had silver ones. Fits the 7 without problems as well but makes its profile a bit taller, something the 7 doesn't need :D If you like to carry your camera in your hand I bet you'll love them, the grip it provides is very comfortable and the aluminium satin finish is really nice.
Also received one of their old black ones for the Nikon F2, and man does the handling improve with it ! I'm probably asking them about their universal one for my SRT and who knows if for another M in black :)
The price was also very good, $66 per grip, and Eric is really a great guy to deal with so I really recommend him, you Leica M shooters may also find useful their add-on rewind attachments and other gadgets.
All in all, I couldn't think on a better finding after a so-so morning ! :D
Oscar
back alley
02-24-2005, 07:56
both joy and dread fill my heart!
i'm glad it fits and i want one too.
but i will never be able to save any money at this rate of spending.
i think i'll order one to start on one p and then maybe for the other 2 canons later on.
with a nice grip and a wrist starp i'll be in shooter heaven.
joe
oscar, where's the ordering info again?
joe
back alley
02-24-2005, 17:13
oscar
any pics yet?
joe
OF it ? Nope, I was tampering with my small digi P&S the other day and now I don't remember where I put it :p
WITH it, yes, sure :)
The small gap due to baseplate difference with the M, I simply filled it with a flattened cotton swab stick that stays in place by pressure, no glue, no tape, no mod. needed that could ruin the grip for use on a M, nothing, it simply fits firmly in place, flat and simple :)
back alley
02-25-2005, 05:41
i'm thinking a thin sheet of some rubbery material might work also and help with the grip's grip.
joe
I am thinking about finding a grip for the M6 now. That sucker is heavy and it is hard to get a hold of with its smooth lines and stuff. I felt like I was going to drop it today.
back alley
02-25-2005, 13:23
ralph,
i've been thinking that you need to get a grip...;)
sorry,
joe
let's grip ! :D
joe i saw one of the old photoequip leica m grips the other day on pn, the owner simply put some tape with a rubber surface on the grip zone, fast and simple.
now, with -24ºC outside in edmonton, it may be a good idea for you to save your fingers :)
back alley
02-25-2005, 14:27
i'm looking forward to payday so i can order one.
btw, it's 0c right now but feels much warmer than that in the sun.
t-shirt weather!
joe
back alley
02-25-2005, 14:36
i couldn't wait, i just emailed eric.
waiting for a reply now.
joe
I found the lousy digi p&s !
It was inside my glasses case, of course !
Well, the pics, sorry for the lousy quality... In fact it doesn't look too different than on that example M4. The last pics shows the cotton swab stick I used to fill the 1 mm gap after making it flat.
Taffer, the vertical finger-grip portion of your grip assembly appears to be polished aluminum, while that part of the black one illustrated on the web site was made of dark carbon fiber... Did you specify a choice?
Yes Doug, in fact the ones on the website are still the old model. You can have a look at their current ones on the links below, probably the will be updating the website soon.
www.black-hole.com/users/ericpaulsen/ebBlkM.JPG
www.black-hole.com/users/ericpaulsen/ebChmM.JPG
Oscar
Thanks! The new all-metal model looks stronger but heavier. Is the back side of the vertical part hollowed? I was thinking a bit of milling on the mating surfaces of the base part wouldn't hurt, as there looks to be a lot of metal there.
Yep Doug, at first I also thought the vertical part (the grip itself) was a massive piece of aluminium but it is not, just like their previous ones is empty on the inside, though it's indeed a bit heavier than the old NF grip I also ordered. Nonetheless, the all metal one feels more solid, you have the impression that the grip is one with the camera.
Well, I am getting a grip for the M6. That sucker is heavy, and too smoothly contoured. Nothing to grip. I did finish my first roll, I think a grip will help me feel more confident with it though.
There's also Leica's own M handgrip to consider, not much more expensive than the above... http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=127360&is=REG
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