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back alley
09-06-2004, 22:23
i can't sleep!
it's 12:10 a.m. and i can't sleep, just tossing and turning, wide awake in bed.
thought i'd see what's happening here.
not too much it seems.
ok, listen to this, tonite's weather report for the upcoming week. snow flurries on wednesday and thursday.
snow already!
usually it waits for holloween and freezes those poor trick or treaters.
i sometimes wonder what the heck i'm doing here, living in the frozen north. we barely had summer this year. a couple of weeks of kinda nice weather and warm temps.
i'm a dual citizen, maybe i should find a nice warm spot back home and move there. new mexico, arizona...
i was thinking earlier this evening, wondering actually, if there were any famous canon photographers?
i did a search but of course 99% of the info with the word 'canon' in it came up digital.
nothing about the old cameras, the rangefinders.
i did the same search but substituted leica for canon and there was lots more info, naturally.
so, does anyone know of any famous shooters or photos that used canon rf cams?
(like the p?)
ok, i'm rambling i think. tired but not sleepy!
anyone have insomnia?
i get it occasionally, maybe once a year for a few weeks, it can drive ya crazy.
good nite, i hope,
joe
Rich Silfver
09-07-2004, 00:03
Sorry to hear about your insomnia Joe.
It's 12:40am here and I'm still up (gotta get up in 6 hours or so. Oh well.
By the way. did you know that Canon came out with a 'special edition of the P camera'? This one: http://auction-team.de/new_highlights/2003_04/0302.htm
:)
funny summer in central Ontario, I am 100 miles north of Toronto, and many many leaves down, I have a big maple which has shed many red and golden leaves, everything still on the tree and there are lots are still green, but that is pretty early for leaf gravity operations. cool summer, and then for Labour Day weekend, four days of high temperatures, three with high humidity, and right now it is raining. I was bad today and took an SLR and prime lenses to a local preserved marsh, not my rangefinder - my second hand Nikon F2 - along with three Nikkors: 20mm f4, 35mm f2, 50mm f2, and a Tamron SP 90mm Macro f2.5 - a test of how much heavy gear I want to tote on a trip I have planned for early October - although it may be snow tire time by then.....you never know. I may just go with a Bessa R, CV 35 f2.5, Nokton 50mm f1.5, Leitz Hektor 135 f4.5, and a Jupiter 9 85 mm f2 - much lighter load for me, the sherpa.
All that humidity kind of torpedoed my normal sleep pattern.
I cant shed any light on your Canon users of fame or high regard. I have admired the Canon RF cameras - but slapping myself - enough gear, enough gear, enough gear.
regards from another part of the Canadian weather experimental lab.
Bill
I think it's Francesc Català-Roca who did his wonderful Barcelona/Madrid series with a Leica M2 BUT... a nice Canon 35/1.8. I'll tell you something more later, it's in my homework for today :)
As for insomnia, I usually spend 1-2 hours in bed turning into every available position without finding any comfortable one. Heat and humidity may have also something to do with that, so I end sleeping 5-6 hours a day.
does anyone know of any famous shooters or photos that used canon rf cams?
Yes ! I know of one ! His name is backalley-something ! ;) :D
Brian Sweeney
09-07-2004, 02:15
Joe,
Maybe what the Canon needs is a song! I found this on a Leica users group. They have a song! Next time you are up you need a Canon lullaby.
Go to Sleep,
Go to Sleep,
my Little Canon P...
This is FUNNY!
"I Am a Total Devotee of Leica M Photography" (http://www.freelists.org/archives/leica/05-2004/msg00384.html)
back alley
09-07-2004, 04:45
good morning,
i fell asleep at about 2 or so and woke up about 4.
time for work now!
where's my coffee?
joe
bmattock
09-07-2004, 05:42
Can't seem to face up to the facts.
Tense and nervous, can't relax.
Can't sleep, bed's on fire.
Don't touch me, I'm a real live wire.
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
That's how I always feel after a night of insomnia. Good luck today!
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
Before you go to sleep try a Scarpia egg cream. An egg cream is a NYC concoction consisting of milk, chocolate syrup and seltzer water or club soda. First put in 2 oz. milk into a 12 oz. glass, add a liberal dollop of chocolate syrup (in NY we use Fox's U-BET, but any one will do). Stir and fill with seltzer water. The Scarpia variation- add one jigger of brandy, drink and you shall sleep soundly.
Dorma! Kurt M.
bmattock
09-07-2004, 19:08
I find that a shot of NyQuil does the same thing. One shot and you feel that warm feeling creep up your chest, then you make the ugly NyQuil face and you're in the coma. Better be in bed at the time, 'cause you just fall over.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
The egg cream tastes better, Bill. You're right about the NyQuil face. Sleep well.
Kurt M.
Joe, here's a non-herbal solution. I can lend you the book I've been trying to read at bedtime: What Philosophers Think. Faster than NyQuil!
Gene
bmattock
09-07-2004, 19:23
Originally posted by Scarpia
The egg cream tastes better, Bill. You're right about the NyQuil face. Sleep well.
Kurt M.
I'm of the opinion that things which knock you out should not taste good - or they become too much fun altogether. Like cigs until I gave 'em up.
NyQuil makes me sorry I drank it - but it does the job. Makes me have to ask myself - how much do I really want to go to sleep?
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
back alley
09-07-2004, 19:27
well, i'm hoping to just fall gently to sleep tonite.
if not i'll pretty much try anything.
kurt, i was born in brooklyn and raised in queens, richmond hill to be exact. been making egg creams since i was a kid! of course the best store bought ones was at 'chester's' candy store, around the corner from my place.
gene, i have trifocals, not a hope in hell of reading in bed these days.
bill, meds and most drugs have never made me sleepy. i could never understand those warnings about not operating heavy machinery.
joe
If Gene's solution is better than ours he must be going to sleep with the light on. As my wife generally is asleep before I am, I will hear about this in the morning.
Kurt M,
Joe, born and brung up in Brooklyn. I now live in Jackson Hts., Queens most of the year except for the summer when I live in Warrensburg, NY. What a summer this has been.
Kurt M.
back alley
09-07-2004, 19:41
my cousin phyliss lives in jackson heights.
my old neighborhood is a distant memory. went back a few years ago for my step-dad's funeral. everything seemed so much smaller.
i miss the food. new york pizza, bagels and real pastrami.
and i'd kill for a real cannoli.
joe
bmattock
09-07-2004, 19:50
You think you New Yawk types could keep it down? Some of us down-east types are trying to sleep here.
Best Regards,
Bill Mattocks
back alley
09-07-2004, 19:53
whadyamean down east types?
newyawk is the east.
you are now a southern gentleman bill, best to mind yoawl manners...;)
Take another teaspoon of NyQuil Bill.
Joe, Jackson Hts. has become the most multi ethnic neighborhood in the world. South Americans, East Indians, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Russians, Koreans, etc., etc. My wife who is Japanese says it is the new Silk Road. There is no food you cannot find in the local shops. Makes it hard to stick to the South Beach diet.
Cannoli too. Oddly. there is a little bakery in Little Italy, all block and a half of it in JDOS land (Cleveland) which has the best cannoli I have ever had. My daughter who works in Cleveland takes me there on our rare visits.
Kurt M.
back alley
09-07-2004, 20:11
the cannolis here are just terrible, not even close to a new york one, completely different filling.
ok, i gotta stop, getting way too homesick.
joe
Joe, two shots of 37th Ave and 74 St. Jackson Hts. taken last year with a Panasonic P&S (clone of Leica C-1 bought in Cleveland in a Wal-Mart and no longer available).
Kurt M.
back alley
09-07-2004, 20:51
wow, times and places sure have changed.
it's funny, i grew up in a very proud italian family, not without it's share of ethnic bias, but i feel most comfortable in diverse groups.
looks like a great place for photo ops.
joe
Joe, it sounds like you need some recipes.
Oh, when in a pinch, I rely on Tylenol PM. It takes care of my aching ankles and takes the steam out of my sails.
Originally posted by Scarpia
If Gene's solution is better than ours he must be going to sleep with the light on. As my wife generally is asleep before I am, I will hear about this in the morning.
lol ! It works this way -- when the book whops you in the face, it wakes you a little. You put the bookmark back into the same place it's been for the past week, turn off the light, and sweet dreams ...
Gene
back alley
09-08-2004, 04:55
i slept like a baby last night!
slept in this morning...
running late gotta go...
joe
Originally posted by Gene
lol ! It works this way -- when the book whops you in the face, it wakes you a little. You put the bookmark back into the same place it's been for the past week, turn off the light, and sweet dreams ...
Gene
Amazing what you can learn on this forum in addition to photography.
Kurt M.;)
Brian Sweeney
09-08-2004, 15:53
The Answer: Jerry Frank.
What Photographer used a Canon Rangefinder and got Published in Magazines in the US and Europe in the 1960's. He used a Canon Vt. I have some old US Camera Yearbooks, they are loaded with photographers that used the gear we still love. By 1964 the Nikon F was running even with the Leica M3. The SP and Canon RF's were not seeing as much use.
back alley
09-08-2004, 16:04
brian, you da man!
thanks, a name- i will start my research anew!
Backalley asked:
does anyone know of any famous shooters or photos that used canon rf cams?
(like the p?
W. Eugene Smith used Canons (along with Leicas).
back alley
09-10-2004, 10:35
Originally posted by ddunn
Backalley asked:
W. Eugene Smith used Canons (along with Leicas).
really, is that true? or are you just trying to make me feel good?
i have never read that about gene smith.
ok, now i'm happy!:D
joe
Not just to make you feel good. True facts.
From page 423 of Jim Hughes bio of Smith (Shadow and Substance), talking about his trip to Japan in 1959: "He brought, he said, his usual complement of Leica and Canon rangefinder cameras..."
Also, in Helen Gee's book Limelight, there's a picture of Smith wearing on his neck:
1 Canon--not an expert, but it looks like either a VI or P--this is in the high position with what looks like a light meter in the shoe
1 Leica M3--this is in the low position with what looks like a 28mm finder
1 Nikon F--this is over the left shoulder.
Rich Silfver
09-11-2004, 12:38
I also knew of a photojournalist-turned wedding photographer that used a Canon P and Leica M-something. There was even a horrible mentioning somewhere about how the Leica M failed and the Canon P bailed him out. And trust me I wouldn't say that just to make you feel good! ;)
back alley
09-11-2004, 12:49
thanks for that great info!
i actually have read that, but forgot. i just hauled out my copy of the hughes book (highly recommend it) and there it was as you stated.
i'll have to leave that book out on my coffee table now for sure!
and thanks to rich also! that must have been hard to write:)
what's the name of the photog?
joe
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