Open Air Photographica Market, Doesburg (NL) 19 Aug 2012

[Mr_Flibble]

The 18th Edition of the Doesburg Open Air Photographica Market in the Netherlands is scheduled on Sunday 19th of August 2012.

So who's going?

[Wouter]

I've put it on my agenda, as I'll probably be in Holland in that period. Thanks for the info !

[OlliL]

Sounds interesting.

It's a 2.5 hour drive so maybe someone can tell me, if it's worth it?
Any impressions from the las years?

[Mr_Flibble]

Last year the weather put a damper on things. There was a weather warning for the afternoon and the heavy shower in the morning causing a lot of vendor's to quit early.
Some of the Dutch RFF members met up for a drink around noon.

The market consist of over a 150 stands worth of gear from across the history of photography running through the town center of Doesburg.

A couple of impression photos on the official site: http://www.fotograficamuseumdoesburg.nl/23.html

[OlliL]

Thanks Rick, I'll have a look. :)

[johannielscom]

Last year we met with 6 or 8 Dutch members, a brief meeting since the weather warning was issued and we wanted to see the rest of the market before it was all boxed up.

Doesburg is a lovely little town with a historic city center, where the fair is.

There were a lot of nice stands, lots of quality gear and especially for accessories etc I found some nice deals there, collectible accessory stuff for petty cash.

Also a nice fair to pick up some film and have a drink with fellow members. This thread likely will be surfacing time and again until that weekend, so it's easy to hook up and meet!

[hanskerensky]

Just put it in my agenda. Hope to see you guys there and have a nice chat !

[Mr_Flibble]

It's very unfortunate, but I'll be in Ireland at the time

[johannielscom]

Looking forward to strolling Doesburg again, this year I might try to find a place to crash the night before, so we can spend more time on the fair than we did last year.

Maybe illegally camp outside town, somewhere in the countryside :cool:

[Penny Lane]

Nice and strong coffee usually does a tidy job of getting me alert(ish) at silly hours, Johan :D

Derk

[johannielscom]

Nice and strong coffee usually does a tidy job of getting me alert(ish) at silly hours, Johan :D

Derk

Whuhahaha, saw this only just now! I'll brew up an extra large pot this time, Derk!

Got any wishes left for Doesburg, now that Santa has laid all that gear on you last Friday? :p

[Penny Lane]

Oh certainly. Still after a J-12 or something that does a similar job, still out for some accessory VF's or decent hack material (:D) and I'm thinking of finally (cough) getting the necessary chemicals to get going at home developing. I've run out of excuses, so I must set to it...

But all the received items have found their places and all is working well. Only thing left to do is to shoot more :)

Derk

[philipus]

Thanks for the PM about this Johan. I recently bought a camera from Secondhandcamera in Amsterdam and spoke with Peter about this and other shows in Holland but then forgot about it so I'm very grateful for the reminder.

I will definitely try to come. My wife's out of town so I'm free to play :) It seems like a really interesting show!

Cheers
Philip

[philipus]

Actually I am rather certain now that I'll be able to make it. The little hitch is that I can only drive there in the morning so I hope the fair won't have rained away by the time I get there. Gosh what's with the weather these days? :confused:

Will there be an RFF meet-up perhaps?

cheerio
philip

[stonydeluxe]

I guess said and me will be there (again). ;)

[Waus]

I will be there too-looking for 120 film and an Pentax SMC 67 105mm 1:2,4...

[sisser]

Think i'll be there. Leave my wallet at home though. :)

[johannielscom]

Bumpin' the thread and the Fair here.


Well, how 'bout it?

Philipus wants to meet, I'm all up for a meet like last years' since it was a 30min-meet then, with the weather and all... And Derk and I were planning to arrive earlier this year anyway.

Who's coming to play?

[johannielscom]

Bumpin it again

:)

[hanskerensky]

Hello Johan,

There will be a www.analoogfotoforum.nl (http://www.analoogfotoforum.nl) meeting at 10:30 at restaurant De Waag.
See here for details :
http://www.analoogfotoforum.nl/index.php?topic=1243.new;topicseen#new

Hope to see you !

[johannielscom]

Hi Hans,

Just joined that forum but I don't think Derk and I will be up for a meeting that early, we will be arriving an hour prior to that...

But who knows!

[hanskerensky]

Hi Johan,
I surely will arive earlier too. Must not loose the opportunity for good deals :-)
See you !

[philipus]

Hi everyone!
Sorry for the radio silence. I've had some mobile broadband problems here in Sweden. I will arrive in Doesburg at noon after having dropped off my wife at Schiphol.
cheers
Philip

[johannielscom]

Cool, Philip! I'll send you my cell number so we can text to meet.

More pre-fun: what will people be looking for?

Here's my list:
Film clamps
Paterson 5-film tank
Fuji Astia
Rolleiflex 2.8F case
Billingham TLR bag
43mm UV filters
C-41 or E-6 kit
Mamiya 55 or 65mm lens
TLR (beater) to craft the Mamiya lens onto

Of all this, only the 43mm filter and the Astia are necessities though.

Anybody else got something they'll be looking for?

[Pherdinand]

umm... I am thinkng to go there, together with a colleague, but we both have work shift from 3pm- in eindhoven - so it will be an early drive and short visit for us.
Though i am also wondering... is it really worth counting on buying anything? or just eye candy and trying stuff? I have the feeling everything will be way overpriced (or fairly priced, depends how you put it - in any case, no "great deals" and usually over my budget)

I would not mind picking up e.g. a nice looking (not necessarily operational) wooden camera, or one that could be restored (by me) with not too much skill.
Or a mamiya c system- or at least try one out coz i never touched one- if it's affordable
Or a hassy, but those seem to be still over the top priced.
Or an old beautiful rolleiflex old standard that is not totally trashed :)
And simple things like a rolleifix, a lenscap for Bay2, a 6x6-6x7 enlarger lens...

it's exaggerating to say i am LOOKING for these, except the simple things, but if i bump into i might get tempted.

[philipus]

More pre-fun: what will people be looking for?

I must admit I don't know what to expect as I've never been there. I've been wondering if i could find a Summar perhaps or some other interesting old glass.

And I've been thinking of beginning to develop BW myself and to begin using bulk films so equipment to do these things could be interesting too.

And film of course, if there's any on sale.

Oh, for patriotic reasons, plus because they're really cool, I've always wanted a Hassy too :)

[hanskerensky]

Philipus, there will be plenty of old glass ! Also process chemicals and equipment and films. Enlargers is another story, because they tend to be a bit bulky and not so in demand they are not the salesmen favorite, better read the adds in the local internet markets.

[philipus]

Great news. Looking forward to this a lot.

Johan, I've sent you a pm.

Cheers
Philip

[Mr_Flibble]

Have fun everyone who's going. Be sure to take water and sun lotion!

I'll be training from Dublin to Galway myself In much cooler weather ;)

[HuubL]

Enjoy the fair! I would love to come, but other responsibilities prevent me...:(

[Penny Lane]

Well, went and picked up Johan this morning, and off we went to Doesburg. Again a nice fair! Quite warmish though, 36C or thereabouts... But huge fun. More to follow...

Derk

[johannielscom]

Hey!

It was fun, we (Derk, his wife and me) met Hans and Philip but did not see any of the other visitors. It was nice meeting them!
It wasn't that busy since the afternoon temperature was indeed well past 30ºC with real harsh sunlight. All as predicted. Oomph!


I got lucky and found:

enough film clamps for hanging 16 rolls or 35mm film
a short connector wire to hook up a flash to my M2
a Rolleiflex 2.8F non-original neck strap from new leather for EUR 4 :eek:
some aluminium film containers for 35mm and 120
a Stewartry filter adapter for 36mm Elmar etc lenses
a 43mm UV filter to transplant the glas into a Leitz filter for my Summilux 50/1.4
a Leitz leather case for my Summilux 50/1.4
Some Ilford and ORWO film expired late sixties, canned and sealed :eek:

The film clamps and the 43mm filter I looked for, the rest I ran into!


To top it all off, I was given :eek: 7 everready cases for:

Leica IIIf
Leica IIIc (big-nose case, tatty)
Leica R4
Leica M3
Zeiss Contarex Bulls Eye and Super, the luxury model
Argus C3 Brick
Contax (past-war case, tatty)

The seller was returning home and did not feel like packing all the rummaging boxes up too, so he let everybody take what they fancied and I took the 7 cases since the other four guys present were all skipping that box. I think I got the longer end of the stick:D


I plan to sell them all and earn back my spendings :cool:

[hanskerensky]

Nice seeing and talking to you guys again !
Was there early to avoid the worst of the heatwave :-)

Got 3 cameras, all with some kind of defect so very cheap.

A Rollei 35 LED with a loose lens barrel (hope that one of my spare barrels will fit).

An Agfa Karat with a non working rangefinder and hampering shutter release.

And at the stand from our English friends a MPP Microcord with a lensboard
which doesn't seem to be parallel with the filmplane in the vertical sense.
Probably a Mk1 as it has a eye-level viewer using a collapsable mirror.

[HuubL]

So no cheapo Barnack Leicas or Ms and such... :(

[johannielscom]

So no cheapo Barnack Leicas or Ms and such... :(

Can't say I have been looking for them but odds are highly stacked against it in general.

Saw a BP Leica II engraved 'Leihcamera fa. Koch, Lufthaven Frankfurt' but the seller asked EUR 500 for the camera with a matching Elmar 50/3.5 and the case. Fair price but not cheap.

[Griffin]

I've been putting this event in my calendar for the past three years or so and it's the same story each year: It's a long drive, it's the end if the month, my money is finished, so I wouldn't be able to buy anything, much less pay for gas to just get there. If only they could do the event one week later, you know, after the entire country gets its salary!

Perhaps it's just me, but if you're organizing a trade fare it would be best to have people there with money they're not supposed to spend. OTOH, perhaps they're just protecting us from ourselves!

[Penny Lane]

Well, I had a fine time in Doesburg. Some welcome finds as well:

- Leitz VIOOH, so now I'm ready for the 35 & 90ish mm lenses I want and also to use the shortened IUFOO shade I have.

- Kiev-4A. It's a '79 (cue QC horror stories) and looks well used. What say ye: order some ribbons from Yuri @ Fedka or form Oleg at OK before or after it conks out? :P

- Zorki-1b, but in 1c casing. Paid €18,- for the body and guess what: it works. Only thing wrong was a missing pressure plate spring, but I had a spare set. While inside, I popped in an imporved 1c - 1e 'band aid' pressure plate as well for easy loading & better film flatness. These old shutter crates out of chrome plated sheet steel are lovely to behold!

- The better half wandered off with a bright baby-blue FED-2. She picked it out for its colour (by her own admittance, mind :D) and I'm lucky it works well. Just needs a light clean and an RF adjustment. I'm just happy I finally got her into FSU rangefinders!

- Original lens shades for the Oly OM 50mm and Nikkor H.C 50/2

- Couple of straps, take-up spools and odds & ends.

As has been mentioned, the lack of chemicals & film was a real shame, but oh well, I met some nice people, managed to overspend quite perfectly and I've found pretty much everything else on my wish list, so despite the heat it was a good day spent in good company!

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Derk

[HuubL]

Can't say I have been looking for them but odds are highly stacked against it in general.

Saw a BP Leica II engraved 'Leihcamera fa. Koch, Lufthaven Frankfurt' but the seller asked EUR 500 for the camera with a matching Elmar 50/3.5 and the case. Fair price but not cheap.

Sounds nice. nickel or chrome knobs? Fair price for a II + Elmar, especially when in nice condition, but indeed not cheap. But I guess you won't find many 'good deals' at a fair like this. Too many knowledgeable sellers I presume.

Oops, I just realized that Leih cameras were loan models used as temporary replacement for a camera returned for repair (leihen=borrow). Apparently, much sought-after by collectors and valued accordingly. If this was such a model, Johan, you just missed the chance of a lifetime :(